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Hello and welcome to this week's episode of Uncle Dad Talks.
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I'm Uncle Dad and with me as always is the ever so handsome Just Mike. Mike, how are you?
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Oh, I am just great. Thank you for asking. Oh, Just Mike is just great.
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That's right. Oh, not awesome. Not amazing. Just great.
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Thank you. Yes. Mike, today is a very exciting day and I'll let you reveal our guest in a second here.
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I think it's going to be one of our most, probably one of our most,
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probably top five episodes of all time right now. I feel the energy. I feel it.
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I feel the, I mean, just being with you guys and being in his presence has been just something else.
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It has been quite the extravagant journey today.
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And you know, he has, he also found out that I'm not Filipino. Isn't that crazy?
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Yeah. I'm surprised he believed you.
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Cause he knows, he knows. But before we do all that, one thing we always got
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to do, Mike is pay our bills. And we have something very exciting to announce.
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We're doing a brand new sponsorship with a
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brand that i really do love and i would say
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you do too i do yes and this brand
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is called roosevelt's now roosevelt is like
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one of the leaders in pop culture like like hawaiian
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t-shirts where they basically take like a license of star wars or whatever and
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then they slap it on with a bunch of different like fun little fabrics so let
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me ask you this mike what is one of the reasons why you like roosevelt's well
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i love roosevelt's because i mean they have a ton of of unlicensed items.
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They have Star Wars, they have Marvel, I've seen DC, Nickelodeon,
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you name it. And if they don't have it, they'll probably have it soon, right?
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And they also come out with lots of unlicensed designs that are amazing as well.
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Absolutely. And I've been wearing Roosevelt literally for years.
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I think you've seen me wear these shirts all the time.
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Being a heftier man, I got to wear Hawaiian shirts because it helps me look
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a little better. And then these shirts, they fit perfectly.
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They fit your body just the way they need to, no matter how you are in size.
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So if you're a little thicker like me, you know, look good, you know?
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Yeah, do what you can. But I'm actually wearing Roosevelt's right now.
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You are. And, you know, I'm not going to review who our guest is entirely yet,
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but what do you think about my shirt? I think your shirt is very festive.
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Yes, yes. And you know what I like about it is it does, it does speak to the hefty man inside of you.
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And not only that, it's colorful, it's fun. It's got a good vibe to it.
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Yes. I'm down with your Roosevelt shirt.
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I'm glad you are. You are, I'm glad you are. But now, do you notice it's chunk from the Goonies?
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I did notice that. At first I just thought it was a regular Hawaiian shirt,
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but then upon further examination, I was like, oh damn, Roosevelt is doing something.
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Yeah, yeah, it's pretty great. They're making it happen. Yeah,
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yeah, you know, one day when I wear this, I gotta do the truffle shuffle, what do you think?
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I think you should do it live on the show. One day I will. Maybe tonight.
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Maybe tonight I will. Maybe we'll go somewhere fun and I'll just take my,
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you know, have a good time. Yeah, we'll put it on the vlog. Well,
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that's the thing about Roosevelt shirts.
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You go someplace and you have a good time in a good shirt. See, look at this man.
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He knows. He knows what's up. He knows how to have a good time.
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But now, before we forget, let me tell you how I can help you.
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Okay. How can you help me? My secret guest.
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Yes. I haven't been revealed yet. Yes. But the people listening are like,
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dude, he really likes that Roosevelt shirt. What's going on here? Yeah, yeah.
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I can step out for a minute because I want to talk about it.
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Well, let me tell you, my friend, that you can get 20% off.
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Wait, what? 20% off. 20% off? Yeah. A 20-twin-twin. A 20-twin-twin. A 20-twin-twin?
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Yes. 20% off your order. No limitation by using promo code UNCLEDAD, all one word.
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Wow. Yeah. So I just have to put the promo code UNCLEDAD in.
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That's it. And I get a 20-twin-twin off. That's it. On a fabulous Roosevelt
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shirt. And they got socks.
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What? They got koozies. What? And those koozies are legendary, my friend. Oh, man.
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You mean shirts, socks, and koozies? And t-shirts.
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At 20% off? That's it. Oh, come on, Roosevelt.
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Yeah, so listen to our guest. You see how excited he is. Right.
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You can be just as excited.
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So go to roosevelts.com. That is R-S-V-L-T-S.com.
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Go there. Use promo code UNCLEDAD. Get 20% off or as our guest likes to say.
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You can get how much off? 20 twin. 20 twin. Off a Roosevelt shirt,
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a sock, a koozie, or whatever you need.
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I mean, you got everything you need to party. Yeah, right.
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Just no pants. Yes. Exactly. That's a Roosevelt party pack.
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That's a Roosevelt party pack. I love it. Yeah, so go check them out.
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That's our new sponsor. When you do that, you're supporting the show.
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Exactly. And we really want you to support the show.
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Yeah, it's a great time. So I think I really established myself as this secret guest.
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I think you are like, man, who is this guy? Well, what's even funnier is I always
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say it's a secret guest, but they read the notes. They, it says,
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so they know, they know already.
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Yeah. They know. Okay, good. The only way they don't know is if it's on autoplay
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and they haven't looked because they're driving, which is probably a fun way to listen to this show.
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Yeah, for sure. You're like, I'm just going in. Yeah.
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Maybe we should do mystery guests. Ooh.
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Okay. Okay. Okay. Mystery guest in a Roosevelt shirt.
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With the koozie but no pants
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right right okay mike
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go ahead we're having a great time so you might as well just bring
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it bring him in yeah yeah well speaking of our mystery guest i'm so stoked to
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have him in here yeah we've got a great story of how we met yeah we'll get to
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that later yes but he's been in movies you've seen him in movies you've seen
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him on tv you've probably laughed at his jokes and didn't know they were his
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right isn't that right sure that's correct Yeah.
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I mean, you were... Let's see. You were in...
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Let's say most notably, you were in Don't Be a Menace to South Central while
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drinking your juice in the hood.
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And thank you for saying the whole title. Yes. That's respect.
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I mean, if you're going to say it, you might as well say it.
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You have to say the whole title. I know most people say Don't Be a Menace.
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Yeah, most people shorten it up. Especially now. But the real ones say the whole title.
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Because I saw all those movies before I saw Don't Be a Menace.
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So you did it the right way. I did it the right way. Yes. Yeah.
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And tell the people who I played in Don't Be a Menace. You played Crazy Legs.
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That's right. You played the Crazy Legs. That's right.
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And so while we're here, let me just a side note before I tell you the rest of your accolades.
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For those of you that listen to the show and know, I am also the designer for Bart Bridge Hats.
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And we had a pop-up store in Oakland during the month of December in which I manned the shop.
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And sitting in there, designing on my computer in between customers,
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a couple of gentlemen walk in or maybe
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this was just you when when you first came in i think i was by
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myself that's right i walked into a store by myself who
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does that yeah i'm wow i'm wow yeah you wow man you're doing crazy wow and i
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said i said let me know if you need any help and and i was like cool you know
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i'm not here to be a salesman you were you know what your your salesman vibe was right on point.
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And I was, I looked around and I was like, oh, this is a dope store.
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It's got a nice vibe to it.
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I looked around, I saw some hats that I liked.
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I saw one hat in particular that was a South Central Los Angeles hat that had
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Marlon Wayans, who played Lope Dog, of course, as the image.
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And I was like, this is a dope hat.
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And so I freaked out. I did freak, like I quietly freaked out to myself.
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And I asked you, I said, can I take a picture of this hat? And you were like, absolutely.
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And I said, I was in this movie. And I wasn't saying it like, can I get a discount?
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No flex there, right? Yeah, I wasn't trying to flex. I just was like, this is bizarre.
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I'm in Northern California where I'm from and where I grew up.
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I was waiting to meet a friend for lunch.
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He went to Costco to gas up his car.
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And he was like, I'll be there in 10 minutes. So I found your pop-up shop.
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I saw the hat and I was like, oh, this is, this is, I'm where I'm supposed to be. This is meant to be.
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That's right. And so I took a picture of the hat, but I was like,
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weirdly blown away because like the, The artistry was dope.
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I was like, yo, this is fire. This hat is fire.
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Thank you. Yes, it was fire.
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And so we started talking. And I was like, I wanted to know,
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I just wanted to know what was going on.
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Yeah, what's going on? Like, am I being punked right now?
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Asking pictures back there. Yeah. Let's put some merchandise from Don't Be a
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Menace that's really dope.
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And Crazy Legs happens to stumble
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upon it. Yeah. I'm friends with your friend and we set this all up.
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Yes. And that like, it felt like that.
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So I literally had 10 minutes to kill. I remember I asked you,
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I said, can I take a picture of the hat?
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And then I like left, like, and was a little like, whoa, what was that?
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I have to go back to that store.
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So my buddy picked me up. We went to go eat.
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And I told him, yeah, I just stumbled upon this really cool hat store and they
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had this hat. And I showed him the hat and he was like, no way,
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we gotta go there when we come back.
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And so we came back and he ran into a friend of his, you and I started talking
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some more and I was like, hey, can I buy a couple of hats?
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I'm doing shows here with Sean Wayans in the city. I want to give Sean and Marlon one of these hats.
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And you, as a smart business person.
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And just a nice guy. And a nice guy said, take the hat. Yeah,
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absolutely. Yeah. And so you gave me the hats and I was like, cool.
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And then you were like, hey, can I go to the show? And I was like, absolutely.
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And so we became fast friends from the moment I stepped into the pop-up shop.
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We used the express lane to friendship.
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Yes. We did. We did. Fast track. We did. Yes.
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Yeah, that was great, right? It was awesome, dude. Like, I really love the hats.
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Like, you know, I'm a dude that I do my own T-shirt.
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And, you know, the popularity of the Crazy Legs character was such that I was
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like, I want to do something for my diehard fans.
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So I started making a t-shirt and then when I saw your hat I was like this is something that is,
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like you're showing just as much love with your hat as I do with my t-shirts
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so I was like really hyped about just how it all came to be you know one of
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the things that we do sometimes with with the hat designs is we do a little
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nod to pop culture right and you never know how it's going I mean,
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you can get a seasoned assist, you can get something like what we have, right?
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And I'm glad it went the way that it did with us.
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You know it's funny because someone else through
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someone that works with our with our company said someone
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saw that hat and said that they were offended by this really and
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they said do you know what this is from and they were like no but it offends
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me and they had to be educated on why
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why that was on i'm curious what were
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they offended by i think that it was that it says
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south central and it has you know
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loke dog on there but they didn't know who loke dog
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was there's probably a younger person who had no
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idea what what that it's funny that
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you say that because people that are
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fans of don't be a menace they love the movie for what it is and what it was
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at the time that we made it was we wanted to spoof all these hood movies and
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we watched all the hood movies we were all stand-ups in the club we were hungry
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we wanted to make a movie that spoofed these movies.
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So we knew what we were doing.
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We were super hungry at the time. And Fridays came out about six months before
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Don't Be a Menace, right? And Fridays made a huge impact.
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It made money. It made stars out of Chris Tucker. Ice Cube killed it.
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We were just as hungry. And so when we made Don't Be a Menace,
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we were trying to kill it.
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You know what I mean? Like we were trying to kill it. We were trying to go for it.
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And the people that get it, get it.
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But when the movie first came out, I remember I went to the Magic Johnson Theater, right?
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Which is the perfect place to see Don't Be a Menace. I would imagine.
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Yeah. So we went to the Magic Johnson Theater and I remember there were some
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people watching the movie like it was a regular hood movie.
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They didn't realize it was a comedy.
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That's interesting. Yes. Yeah. Because that That would change your perspective
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so much if you're going through the mentality.
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Yeah, if you're watching Don't Be a Menace as a real hood movie and not a comedy,
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you're totally missing the joke.
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Like, I love Boys in the Hood, but I'm going to... You know what I mean?
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Yeah, exactly. Exactly. So...
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I've noticed this newer generation, sometimes I'll do interviews and people
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will be like, you were making fun of the homeless or the handicapped.
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You're making fun of the handicapped.
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And I'm like, no, that's not it at all.
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Like if you're going into this movie looking at it from that perspective,
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you're looking at it all wrong.
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Like the crazy legs character to me
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like when I when I
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researched that character I went to
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the Fox Hills Mall which is at the
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time the hood mall and I just
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people watched and I saw this dude in a
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wheelchair at that mall and he had mad energy right and so I was like there's
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something there And so I made this character to uplift everyone that has any
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kind of physical disability.
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Like that was my mindset. Like the Crazy Legs character, people really identify
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with the character because they feel like that dude has the biggest energy in the room. Right.
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Like he doesn't know he's in a wheelchair.
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You know what I mean? Right. And I would find after that movie came out,
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parents of kids that were in wheelchairs were like, I'm so glad you made that
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movie. That's my son's favorite movie.
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Like, it gives him light. What a difference between that, you know,
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the time back then in the 90s. And the time that we live in now.
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Where it's almost like everything that's out there almost is perceived as, is this offensive?
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Before, is this just what it is? Like, it's funny, dude, like the first scene,
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in Don't Be a Menace where you first meet Crazy Legs, right?
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Coming out of his house and he's got the the wheelchair ramp
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right and the energy is like you know
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yeah that's the way you start the day like he's
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up dude yeah like he's hyped yeah he's not he's not doom and gloom he's never
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down no like he's never down in that and that's like an inspiration right because
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it is because there's so many people who go through that and don't have that
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and the fact that that character did that you're right it's like it's a beautiful
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thing you So it's just interesting, though,
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how we live in a time where we look at the negative instead of the positive.
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Sure. And Crazy Legs is a unnecessarily positive character. For sure.
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And for a character that lives in the hood to be that positive,
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he's a shining light. Yeah, I agree.
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And isn't that more of what we need, right? Absolutely.
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Hey, we have ailments. let's let's not
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make that the focus of who we are we're just who we are
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right right right like your spirit and your
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energy is what it is really about
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yeah that's who you are yeah so don't judge crazy legs by the wheelchair even
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though the wheelchair is dope wheelchair is so dope like the wheelchair is dope
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it's got the daytons on it it's got the daytons on it it's it it's so funny
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like when i think back about the wheelchair like people ask me sometimes they're
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like do you still have the
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wheelchair and I wish in hindsight I would have kept the wheelchair.
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There's no way I could have.
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No. But I wish I would have. I assume it belongs to the studio. Yeah, it's somewhere.
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It's somewhere in an archive somewhere.
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Like I wish I would have kept the wheelchair. Could you try to buy it you think?
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I'd like to try. Yeah, you should. I'd like to try. If anyone knows where the
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wheelchair is, contact someone. I did keep the little Adidas, the little cameras.
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The baby shoes? Yeah, I kept the baby shoes. I did keep those.
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Oh, that's awesome. I did keep those. I was like, oh, I'm keeping some of these.
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I kept the little shoes, and then I kept – this is like me as an actor.
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This is just – I'm giving you the real. Yeah, please.
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I made sure that my big shoes match my little crazy legs. Of course.
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And you're a sneakerhead. And I'm a sneakerhead, so that's real too.
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So I still have the OG sneakers that I wore when I was crazy.
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Where do you have those? Are they like in a case? They're in my storage.
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Oh, they're in the storage. You've got to get those things in a case.
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I do have to put them in a case. You're right. I do have to put them in a case.
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We've got to see those things. Yes, I do have to put them in a case.
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Okay, so I haven't even said your real name. Yeah, I was about to mention that.
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Wow, wow, yeah. I was about to mention that. But yes, for those who don't know,
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Crazy Legs is not, I guess, real name.
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His real name is Suli McCullough.
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And he's been in a ton of other shows, which I'll get to mention.
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But I have one more question about that scene, you know, where you come down
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the ramp and they're introducing your character.
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And you go into the dream MC Hammer sequence.
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Right. Was that your vision or is that like a collective writer's decision?
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That was a collective writer's decision.
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And I just thought it was super funny at the time because, you know,
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I'm a hip hop head and, you know, I was a break dancer coming up in real life.
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And so we wrote that into Crazy Legs backstory.
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In fact, we shot a scene.
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Of Crazy Legs before the car accident where he was a breakdancer because I was
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a breakdancer and I was like, here's my chance to show the world my skills.
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What moves did you do? Oh, I did.
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First of all, I did my arm waves and my king tuts, but I have a move.
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My go-to move was I used to do the bicycle, right?
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Where I would pantomime like
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I was on a bicycle and that was my move that i would just i would take out whole
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crews with the bicycle so we shot that scene and it never made the final cut
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and that was like a scene that i was really disappointed that didn't make the
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movie because i really liked it to me that anchored the whole,
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character yeah like him like he really was
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the best dancer in the hood yeah they referred to it i think
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it's sean's character refers to it that you were yes
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yeah yeah so i like i like i
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pushed for that i was like yo we gotta show a scene where
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crazy legs is really the best dancer in the hood yeah like we have to have the
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before scene did that make it into like the dvd and well there's a couple there's
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a couple extras there's a there's a special edition version of don't be a Menace
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on DVD that has some extra scenes.
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And it's got this really funny scene where we're playing Ponopoly.
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Like not Monopoly, but Ponopoly. And that scene's pretty hilarious.
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There was another scene we shot in the movie. Remember the barbecue scene where
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the two people were butt naked?
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Yes. Oh, yeah. In the barbecue scene. We shot a scene where Crazy Legs was doing
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the electric slide with four other dudes in wheelchairs.
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I think Marlon has those outtakes somewhere at his house. And one day I went
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over to his house and we watched that scene.
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And I was like, that's pretty damn funny. That sounds funny.
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Yeah, like they were three dudes that were really in wheelchairs.
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And, you know, I was the character.
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And we choreographed the electric slide in Wheelchair. It's pretty funny.
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And then the music was that electric slide. Like, you got to see it.
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It's electric. Boogie, oogie, oogie, oogie, oogie.
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So it's Crazy Legs doing, like, it's a funny scene. We got to get that.
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Yeah. We got to get that. Yeah, I got to hit Marlon up and see if I can get
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that. Yeah, Marlon, please.
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Yes. Yeah, Lokedog got to release that.
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That movie was so fun. I remember seeing it in the theater. You saw it in the
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theater? I saw it in the theater. Wow. I did, yes. Nice. Wow, nice. Did you really?
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Yes, I did. Nice. I'm old enough to see that movie in a theater.
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Really quickly, when that movie came out, I was probably only,
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it came out in 96, right? Mm-hmm. So I was only seven at the time. Wow.
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Really? Yeah, but I did watch it though. My parents, we kind of connected through film.
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And so Boys in the Hood growing up was one of my favorite movies of all time.
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Yeah. I always say this. My dad, I watched Boys in the Hood recently.
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Yeah. and i realized a lot of shit my dad told me
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growing up i'm not kidding you what's quotes from the quotes are
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fucking furious styles dude i was like what the fuck i swear
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to you that's hilarious of course because my dad had me young my parents both
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had me young and so uh which you know shout out to them they're great but uh
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yeah they you know they just they didn't really i don't you know they didn't
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have their own quotes right they didn't really you know they grew up with that
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so anyways when i saw boys in the hood at a young age it just it made me laugh
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so much because it made me think of Boys on the Hood.
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And now I love watching it because, you know, those two movies mean a lot to
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me because it just makes me think of my parents.
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Yes, yeah, that's great, that's great. So yeah, you saw it in theaters and I saw it on VHS.
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Well, you know what's funny? I'll tell you another story about Don't Be a Menace.
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When it first opened, we had the premiere in New York and there was a big snowstorm that weekend.
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And so the weather was terrible.
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It was a Miramax movie.
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And it didn't do as well at the box office that opening weekend because of the storm.
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So you probably saw it in a theater that didn't have crazy weather.
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But the box office numbers, and when you do a movie, it's about what the movie
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grosses, how much money it makes.
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Right, of course. So when it came out, it did OK, but it didn't do like we wanted it to do.
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So we were a little disappointed about it. But when it went to VHS and it went
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to cable, that's when it blew up, like especially cable, because everybody found it.
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And by that time, they were ready for that tone of comedy.
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Sure so it was weird it was like it had
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a it had like a like a latent sonic
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boom and when it went to cable it took off and now it just has a life of its
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own it's like one of those weird cult movies that's just gotten more and more
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popular over the years yeah it's interesting how movies happen sometimes they
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don't and it's certain movies yeah they don't get they don't get the
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numbers they want right away yeah but then it has this second
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life later on yeah and don't be a menace is definitely that
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like i my my son's in high school he's
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a senior now but when he was a freshman one day
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he came home and he said dad my friends think
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you're cool isn't that
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the best though dude i love it that's hard
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i love it so and it's because of don't be
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a menace yeah i i had saw it in the theater i was
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16 since we're all saying how old yeah but i
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out of all those uh the movies that y'all were making fun of
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in that film i saw menace to society first yeah
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and then saw boys in the hood and i was like boys in the hood is nothing compared
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to menace to society that movie yeah menace to society was a great movie yes
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great movie and hughes brothers were great directors yes they were yeah and
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the cast was good like lorenz tate he's a friend of mine i'm friends with all
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the Tate brothers, like he killed it.
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Like I'm, you know, that's the cool thing about living and working in Hollywood at that time. Yeah.
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I was friends with everybody that was making movies, you know what I mean?
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And we all were just coming up at the same time.
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Like I met Sean at the comedy clubs and we tour now.
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And that was cool too, because I tour with Sean, that also gave me a chance
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to see what an impact that movie made.
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You know what I mean? Like when you live in Hollywood, it's mostly what are
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you doing next? You know, like what's next on your plate?
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So you don't really ever get a chance to kind of relive some of the things that you've done.
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But, you know, like when I go out on the road, you know, people tell me all
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the time, like, dude, you know, I don't want to be weird, but don't be a menace is it.
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You know what I mean? Like, it's pretty cool. Yeah.
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I mean, there's no, and there hasn't been, there was lots of parody movies and
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then the Wayans were great with, with the scary movies, which you were also in scary movie too.
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I was in scary movie too. It was the crazy clown. I played the clown under the bed. Yeah. Yeah. Yes.
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Which, you know, I, I didn't recognize that, but of course, you know,
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watching it and then, you know, hearing it together.
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Yeah, of course. And that was one of those things where they called me and they
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were like, yo, we got this part for you in scary movie too.
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Can you do it? And I was like, absolutely. absolutely and it's
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a voiceover you know what i mean like they shot the
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scene and i just voiced it no so you weren't in
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that clown suit under the bed no i didn't even have like it's it's
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such an easy part to claim because it's just
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my voice you know what i mean like they had somebody do all
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that stuff and i just i just voiced it and i
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i loved i was when i was younger i was really into horror movies
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as well and so those those scary movie yeah franchise
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those especially the early the three the first three were so
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were so funny and and so was don't be a menace was like
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yeah and you know it's like the old the naked guns
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right making fun of all these other franchises and
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you guys just did such a great job and and yeah that
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movie just like you don't get that i really hold it deep to
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my heart so to sit here with you and and have
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all this happen is it means a lot so
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yeah it's super it's it's so dope yeah thanks man
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like it's uh it's it's nice to hear you know
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as a as a as an artist you just want to do something that makes an impact yeah
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and to be able to make an impact with that movie it's pretty dope you know what
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i mean like comedy yes with comedy like you like i can actually see that it
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lifts people's moods and i've had like.
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People I super respect. Like Eddie Murphy told me one day, my daughter was in
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daddy daycare. She played one of the kids, right?
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And so Eddie told me one day, he said, Don't Be a Menace was before it's time.
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And I was like, dude, Eddie Murphy is giving me a compliment about a project
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that I was in, which is phenomenal.
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It's phenomenal. It's what you want. Like Shaq is a big, don't be a menace fan.
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I'm sure. Remember the times when dudes would have TVs in the back of their headrests?
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Yeah. With no one in the backseat. Yeah, with no one in the backseat, but the movie was on.
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So I met Shaq at the improv one night, right? And I'm a huge fan of Shaq,
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right? But he was a fan of mine.
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He said, dude, don't be a menace is one of my favorite movies of all time.
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I play that movie in my car.
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00:27:58,795 --> 00:28:01,695
Play that movie. and i was like
430
00:28:01,695 --> 00:28:04,795
what can you say like shack
431
00:28:04,795 --> 00:28:07,915
is giving you props yeah what i mean so like
432
00:28:07,915 --> 00:28:10,615
i'm cool with like the people you know you just
433
00:28:10,615 --> 00:28:13,775
never know who's gonna embrace your your stuff
434
00:28:13,775 --> 00:28:17,735
and ever yeah yeah and and i've been overwhelmed
435
00:28:17,735 --> 00:28:20,855
by the people that that dig that movie man that's
436
00:28:20,855 --> 00:28:23,975
great a casual casual conversation with compliments from
437
00:28:23,975 --> 00:28:26,875
eddie murphy and yes dude i mean eddie's the goat to
438
00:28:26,875 --> 00:28:29,875
me like when i was in high school he was blowing
439
00:28:29,875 --> 00:28:32,875
up on snl and i was like i
440
00:28:32,875 --> 00:28:37,875
want that guy's life you know what i mean like that dude is 21 years old he's
441
00:28:37,875 --> 00:28:44,015
the funniest dude on tv and i'm like i want to do that how can i be that guy
442
00:28:44,015 --> 00:28:49,275
yeah and years later he's telling me you know you were hilarious in this movie
443
00:28:49,275 --> 00:28:51,695
and it was before it's time yeah good job man yeah
444
00:28:51,795 --> 00:28:54,775
yeah dude yeah dude no it's great
445
00:28:54,775 --> 00:28:57,455
i mean yeah raw eddie raw is one of the
446
00:28:57,455 --> 00:29:00,755
best comedy specials ever right i mean i mean eddie's
447
00:29:00,755 --> 00:29:03,935
body of work period nutty professor you know
448
00:29:03,935 --> 00:29:06,855
coming to america like i you know eddie's eddie's on
449
00:29:06,855 --> 00:29:11,995
that level dude yeah yeah so so let me ask you so okay so you you you're a fan
450
00:29:11,995 --> 00:29:18,515
of eddie murphy at a really young age and and is and then i i noticed you early
451
00:29:18,515 --> 00:29:21,075
in your career you were doing lots of small parts in different in different
452
00:29:21,075 --> 00:29:26,655
shows like yeah different world yeah married with children yeah when i was friends i i was on.
453
00:29:27,155 --> 00:29:32,655
Married with children that was one of my first parts i got cast because i was.
454
00:29:33,494 --> 00:29:38,954
Opening for George Lopez at a comedy club. And these casting directors that
455
00:29:38,954 --> 00:29:41,414
cast Married With Children happen to be in the audience.
456
00:29:41,674 --> 00:29:46,154
Oh, wow. You just never know. You never know, dude. That's the thing about LA.
457
00:29:46,274 --> 00:29:49,794
It's crazy. Is you have to just stay ready because you just never know.
458
00:29:49,994 --> 00:29:54,034
So I'm opening for Lopez back in the day before he had his sitcom.
459
00:29:54,474 --> 00:29:58,034
And I didn't know, but these casting directors were in the audience.
460
00:29:58,434 --> 00:30:03,054
And I had an audition for Married With Children the next day. And I booked the part.
461
00:30:03,494 --> 00:30:06,734
And at the time, Married with Children was one of those shows that was like,
462
00:30:06,894 --> 00:30:10,414
that was, you know, that was a big, big deal.
463
00:30:10,714 --> 00:30:16,854
And I played this dude that worked at this record store named Final, called Vinyl Vinyl.
464
00:30:17,094 --> 00:30:22,694
And I played this guy that was a super savant where all you had to do was come
465
00:30:22,694 --> 00:30:25,954
into the record store and hum the song.
466
00:30:26,194 --> 00:30:28,994
Go with him. That's right. Oh, wow.
467
00:30:29,994 --> 00:30:34,114
That's right. That was you? That was me.
468
00:30:34,294 --> 00:30:39,754
That episode is one of the episodes that always stuck with me and that scene.
469
00:30:40,134 --> 00:30:44,154
I played the guy that worked at the store. My mind is just blown.
470
00:30:45,154 --> 00:30:51,534
You're like, Crazy Legs is cool but you were the dude at the record store to go with him.
471
00:30:52,154 --> 00:30:54,954
Wait, what was that song? Do you remember?
472
00:30:55,174 --> 00:31:00,834
I just remember Go With Him was the song and he couldn't remember what it was. Yeah.
473
00:31:00,954 --> 00:31:06,914
And yeah, it was, that was an interesting experience too because that show was so popular.
474
00:31:07,134 --> 00:31:13,974
And as a guest star, like your job is basically to come in, deliver your lines and don't mess up.
475
00:31:14,114 --> 00:31:17,874
You know what I mean? And hopefully be good enough that they ask you back.
476
00:31:18,094 --> 00:31:23,174
So you definitely feel the pressure when you're on a show that's like that hot.
477
00:31:23,234 --> 00:31:26,214
I mean, Kelly Bundy was like, you know, a
478
00:31:26,214 --> 00:31:29,914
super hottie and bud bundy was like crazy popular
479
00:31:29,914 --> 00:31:34,414
and you know how bundy was you know he was a phenomenon you know what i mean
480
00:31:34,414 --> 00:31:38,994
like that show was that show was amazing like it was a great first experience
481
00:31:38,994 --> 00:31:43,994
as a guest star to be a part of something that was like a a cultural phenomenon
482
00:31:43,994 --> 00:31:46,434
yeah yeah yeah i mean that was one of the.
483
00:31:47,439 --> 00:31:50,119
80s right that was that was it was like early 90s early
484
00:31:50,119 --> 00:31:52,959
90s yeah that was such a key show of
485
00:31:52,959 --> 00:31:55,779
that of that time too and i was young too like
486
00:31:55,779 --> 00:32:00,579
i was like fresh out of college i started doing comedy when i was 19 so i started
487
00:32:00,579 --> 00:32:05,919
when i was in college i was really lucky we had a comedy club at ucla i went
488
00:32:05,919 --> 00:32:12,339
to ucla and four of us from the comedy club got to open for jerry seinfeld so
489
00:32:12,339 --> 00:32:14,119
we each did five minutes.
490
00:32:14,499 --> 00:32:18,559
I didn't realize this, but Jerry Seinfeld's managers were in the audience.
491
00:32:19,659 --> 00:32:26,399
Here's a funny story. I was so like honorable and noble and had values back
492
00:32:26,399 --> 00:32:32,959
then that I remember thinking four minutes, like that's not enough time for me to get off.
493
00:32:33,159 --> 00:32:38,199
You know what I mean? I thought about dropping so my friends could have an extra minute.
494
00:32:38,399 --> 00:32:40,519
Look at you. Thank God I didn't do that.
495
00:32:40,919 --> 00:32:45,639
Thank God I didn't do that. But also thank God that you thought that.
496
00:32:45,839 --> 00:32:51,159
And I did honestly think that. I was like, if I drop, they can do more time.
497
00:32:52,919 --> 00:32:57,139
But his manager came up to me after the show, gave me his card,
498
00:32:57,299 --> 00:32:59,959
and he said, give me a call. I think you have a lot of talent.
499
00:33:00,299 --> 00:33:04,059
And I was a junior in college. I still had a year left of school.
500
00:33:04,419 --> 00:33:08,379
And this is how green I was and how much I didn't know anything about the business.
501
00:33:08,379 --> 00:33:11,119
Business I called a buddy of mine that was a
502
00:33:11,119 --> 00:33:14,439
little further along who's now a director and I
503
00:33:14,439 --> 00:33:17,959
said this guy George Shapiro gave me his card is
504
00:33:17,959 --> 00:33:20,839
he legit like I asked him I said is he legit
505
00:33:20,839 --> 00:33:25,539
and my buddy was like that's one of the biggest comedy managers in Hollywood
506
00:33:25,539 --> 00:33:30,319
and then I played it off like for no I don't know why but I played it off like
507
00:33:30,319 --> 00:33:35,179
oh cool all right I think I'm gonna call him and then as soon as I woke up the
508
00:33:35,179 --> 00:33:38,179
next morning I couldn't have dialed that phone fast enough Wow.
509
00:33:38,479 --> 00:33:42,279
So yeah, that's how I got, that's literally how I got discovered.
510
00:33:42,519 --> 00:33:47,599
So I took a meeting with George Shapiro, who was Jerry Seinfeld's manager when I was in college.
511
00:33:47,799 --> 00:33:51,899
They knew I had a year left to school. They're like, we want you to finish school.
512
00:33:52,439 --> 00:33:54,519
But I knew at that moment.
513
00:33:56,388 --> 00:33:59,048
Comedy and being in the comedy game was going to be
514
00:33:59,048 --> 00:34:01,988
my my path which was pretty
515
00:34:01,988 --> 00:34:04,828
amazing pretty yeah i mean you're not even finished
516
00:34:04,828 --> 00:34:08,148
with with you know with college and you already it's already and i knew what
517
00:34:08,148 --> 00:34:13,168
i was going to do and in college you know i was in the comedy club i did i hosted
518
00:34:13,168 --> 00:34:20,928
all the like you know shows on campus so i was tracked that way but still you
519
00:34:20,928 --> 00:34:23,108
know i got one of the biggest managers in Hollywood,
520
00:34:23,708 --> 00:34:26,748
that's representing me as a 20 year old.
521
00:34:26,868 --> 00:34:31,508
Were you kind of feeling like, well, fuck it, I'll just quit college.
522
00:34:31,508 --> 00:34:35,388
I wanted, yeah, I definitely wanted to quit college.
523
00:34:35,568 --> 00:34:39,628
Like I was like, yo, let's go get this. You know what I mean? Like, let's go get this.
524
00:34:39,888 --> 00:34:43,508
But they were smart enough to be like, finish school. And I'm glad that I did.
525
00:34:43,648 --> 00:34:48,828
I was a political science major in college, which is like- I feel like that makes sense.
526
00:34:49,328 --> 00:34:53,268
How so? I feel like comedians would make great politicians sometimes, like in some respects.
527
00:34:53,408 --> 00:34:56,128
There was a time where I thought I wanted to go into politics,
528
00:34:56,208 --> 00:35:00,248
but you know, I mean, look at history. It turns out I'm not racist. Right.
529
00:35:02,568 --> 00:35:05,728
I would have to be way more racist to go into politics.
530
00:35:06,028 --> 00:35:10,968
No, you, uh, so you kind of cut your teeth going on doing these small parts on shows.
531
00:35:11,068 --> 00:35:15,728
Yeah. And then you start, is it, you start writing for, for shows?
532
00:35:15,768 --> 00:35:19,468
Well, that didn't, that didn't happen until after the Jamie Foxx show.
533
00:35:19,608 --> 00:35:24,668
Right. So I guest starred on a lot of different shows. I guest starred on Married with Children.
534
00:35:24,888 --> 00:35:28,688
I guest starred on Seinfeld. I guest starred on Larry Sanders,
535
00:35:28,888 --> 00:35:32,228
where I met my friend and mentor, Gary Shandling.
536
00:35:32,488 --> 00:35:38,708
Wow. But I didn't, the Jamie Foxx show was the thing that, that really kind
537
00:35:38,708 --> 00:35:40,848
of put me on the map in a different way.
538
00:35:42,128 --> 00:35:46,268
Crazy Legs, Don't Be a Menace, that made an impact. In fact,
539
00:35:46,548 --> 00:35:50,528
Jamie, I did one episode, the third season of the Jamie Foxx show,
540
00:35:50,688 --> 00:35:52,668
where I played a totally different character.
541
00:35:52,768 --> 00:35:59,328
I played son, like I think Jamie Foxx's son on the episode.
542
00:35:59,668 --> 00:36:05,488
And it was just a one-off. And then that next season, I got offered the part
543
00:36:05,488 --> 00:36:09,108
of Mouse that worked with him at Jingles 2000.
544
00:36:09,108 --> 00:36:11,828
Thousand right so that was and then
545
00:36:11,828 --> 00:36:15,288
i ended up doing i ended up doing 25 of
546
00:36:15,288 --> 00:36:18,528
the 100 episodes on the jamie foxx show so once
547
00:36:18,528 --> 00:36:22,328
i came on board as mouse that took
548
00:36:22,328 --> 00:36:28,108
off yeah and that was cool because it was you know myself alex thomas who was
549
00:36:28,108 --> 00:36:31,568
in don't be a menace and chris spencer who was also in dopey minutes chris played
550
00:36:31,568 --> 00:36:38,748
preach alex played astray yeah and so you know we've all we're all real friends.
551
00:36:38,848 --> 00:36:41,168
Like we all started comedy around the same time.
552
00:36:41,368 --> 00:36:45,488
And we used to be like, you know, a little black pack. Like,
553
00:36:45,568 --> 00:36:48,608
you know, we would go, we would go do spots together.
554
00:36:48,988 --> 00:36:52,508
You know, we would punch up each other's jokes. We would hang out together.
555
00:36:52,768 --> 00:36:56,548
We would play ball together. So we were like, you know, we looked out for each
556
00:36:56,548 --> 00:37:02,788
other and, you know, it was cool that our comedy life bled into our acting life.
557
00:37:03,348 --> 00:37:08,788
That that's fun because when you have that and then you are working on a,
558
00:37:08,788 --> 00:37:11,788
on a show together, you know, you already have the charisma.
559
00:37:11,828 --> 00:37:16,548
We already have the camaraderie. Like, and when we, we started Jamie Foxx show,
560
00:37:16,748 --> 00:37:21,548
you know, like at that time we kind of gave it a little lift.
561
00:37:21,728 --> 00:37:27,788
Like we took the show out of the hotel and gave Jamie a workspace and now Jamie
562
00:37:27,788 --> 00:37:31,308
had friends and friends that were funny that all had a move.
563
00:37:31,468 --> 00:37:34,388
You know what I mean? Right. Yeah. I feel like when you guys came on,
564
00:37:34,408 --> 00:37:37,408
I told you this off Mike, it's that there was a certain magic that happened.
565
00:37:37,668 --> 00:37:41,128
Yeah. And I love that show. Like it's funny because it recently came on HBO
566
00:37:41,128 --> 00:37:44,888
max now, which if you guys want to watch it, you guys should go to HBO max and watch it.
567
00:37:45,108 --> 00:37:48,168
And I was like, man, I used to love this show. Let me still see if I still love
568
00:37:48,168 --> 00:37:50,368
it. Yeah. And I still love it. And it was great.
569
00:37:50,468 --> 00:37:54,828
But the moment when you guys all pop on, It just shifts the energy in such a
570
00:37:54,828 --> 00:37:58,928
positive, beautiful way where you see the friendship, you see the connection,
571
00:37:59,048 --> 00:38:00,288
you see everybody having a good time.
572
00:38:00,408 --> 00:38:03,608
And one of the things I always appreciate when I watch anything is sometimes
573
00:38:03,608 --> 00:38:06,048
you watch a movie, at least I get this, and I feel like, oh man,
574
00:38:06,208 --> 00:38:08,988
I love that you can tell they're having a fun making of this.
575
00:38:09,168 --> 00:38:16,108
Well, you know what was cool about that show was the way Jamie worked, right? So we would do...
576
00:38:17,084 --> 00:38:21,064
A scripted pass, right? Where we would do the script as written,
577
00:38:21,164 --> 00:38:23,524
right? So we'd do one pass like that.
578
00:38:23,864 --> 00:38:26,644
And then Jamie liked to just freestyle.
579
00:38:27,024 --> 00:38:30,084
So we would do a wild pass, which was a second pass.
580
00:38:30,464 --> 00:38:36,524
And the second pass was anything goes. Like there would be times where we would
581
00:38:36,524 --> 00:38:40,924
just be riffing and we wouldn't do anything that was in the script.
582
00:38:41,104 --> 00:38:47,164
And what they would do was they would cut between the scripted version and the wild pass.
583
00:38:47,504 --> 00:38:52,644
So I think when you watch those episodes, sometimes you're seeing stuff that
584
00:38:52,644 --> 00:38:55,884
was in the script and sometimes you're just seeing stuff that we would rip.
585
00:38:56,044 --> 00:38:59,524
That's so fun. Which was great. It was such a fun way to work.
586
00:38:59,824 --> 00:39:05,704
And Garrett Morris was on that show. And Garrett is one of the original cast
587
00:39:05,704 --> 00:39:07,144
members of Saturday Night Live.
588
00:39:07,504 --> 00:39:13,904
And so I remember when Garrett would be in scenes with us, there'd be times
589
00:39:13,904 --> 00:39:16,544
where we would get to the wild stuff and he'd be like, man, I don't know what
590
00:39:16,544 --> 00:39:17,284
I'm going to do with this.
591
00:39:17,404 --> 00:39:21,884
And so I would sometimes pitch him ideas and he'd be like, oh,
592
00:39:21,964 --> 00:39:23,304
that's good. I like that. Right.
593
00:39:23,524 --> 00:39:28,064
And so I credit Garrett Morris and the Jamie Foxx show.
594
00:39:29,204 --> 00:39:35,284
With planting the seeds, which later became my career as a writer producer,
595
00:39:35,284 --> 00:39:41,724
Because I was really good at pitching things for other people and taking what
596
00:39:41,724 --> 00:39:43,564
they did and made it better.
597
00:39:43,744 --> 00:39:48,224
And Garrett, you know, I respected him so much because he's,
598
00:39:48,224 --> 00:39:55,024
you know, comedy royalty that the fact that he really gravitated to my ideas,
599
00:39:55,184 --> 00:39:59,204
he gave me confidence that my ideas had value. you.
600
00:39:59,324 --> 00:40:05,224
And so I didn't start writing, producing until after the Jamie Foxx show ended.
601
00:40:06,083 --> 00:40:11,203
And that's just from your kind of your organic way of observing people in a
602
00:40:11,203 --> 00:40:14,983
way that you can offer something to them that elevates them.
603
00:40:15,123 --> 00:40:18,203
Yeah. You know, because you think about a lot of people when they're listening
604
00:40:18,203 --> 00:40:21,983
to other people, a lot of times they're thinking about how they're going to
605
00:40:21,983 --> 00:40:23,663
respond to what's being said.
606
00:40:23,803 --> 00:40:28,503
Sure. But you're over here thinking about how can you help say what they're
607
00:40:28,503 --> 00:40:30,643
saying, but maybe better or maybe funnier.
608
00:40:30,723 --> 00:40:35,563
And that also comes from years of just doing stand up and sitting in the back of the club.
609
00:40:35,563 --> 00:40:41,083
Like when I started, all the guys like, you know, John Witherspoon was in the
610
00:40:41,083 --> 00:40:46,763
clubs, you know, Jerry Seinfeld was in the clubs, George Wallace was in the clubs,
611
00:40:47,003 --> 00:40:51,403
Joe Coy was in the clubs, you know, Bill Burr was in the club.
612
00:40:51,483 --> 00:40:55,123
Like we were all in the clubs at the same time.
613
00:40:55,343 --> 00:41:00,163
And even if you weren't on or you were waiting to go on, you would watch all
614
00:41:00,163 --> 00:41:05,563
these guys work. You know, when I first started, I mean, I've seen John Witherspoon
615
00:41:05,563 --> 00:41:09,943
on stage so many times and he was a killer.
616
00:41:10,043 --> 00:41:13,503
Like he was so funny and so good.
617
00:41:14,523 --> 00:41:21,943
So when I was in the clubs, you know, I was I was around these these masters
618
00:41:21,943 --> 00:41:24,943
and I was watching him work on a nightly basis.
619
00:41:24,943 --> 00:41:29,683
And when you first start out, you spend so many hours in the comedy clubs,
620
00:41:29,923 --> 00:41:32,863
you know what I mean? And you just you learn from the best.
621
00:41:33,183 --> 00:41:35,243
So I got to watch the best.
622
00:41:35,643 --> 00:41:39,503
And my goal as a young stand up was like.
623
00:41:41,030 --> 00:41:46,950
Learn from this. So, you know, I would watch what people were doing and I always
624
00:41:46,950 --> 00:41:50,970
had a really good ability to go, okay, that's a great joke. How do we make it better?
625
00:41:51,330 --> 00:41:55,730
You know what I mean? Or say this, or, you know, I mean, I still have that ability.
626
00:41:55,850 --> 00:41:59,730
Like I can walk into a club, I can watch somebody on stage and,
627
00:41:59,750 --> 00:42:02,770
and, and go, oh, you should say that or say that.
628
00:42:02,850 --> 00:42:08,150
And it's not like a, you know, me thinking my ideas are, it's just,
629
00:42:08,190 --> 00:42:11,830
I'm, I'm really good at that because of the years of doing it.
630
00:42:11,850 --> 00:42:13,410
Like standup is, is miles.
631
00:42:13,770 --> 00:42:19,030
You know what I mean? Like it really is. You have to put your 10,000 hours and
632
00:42:19,030 --> 00:42:22,070
then some, that's the only way you get good at it.
633
00:42:22,410 --> 00:42:27,130
You know, yeah. I mean, it's kind of something that you do without even thinking
634
00:42:27,130 --> 00:42:28,790
that you're doing it at this point. I'm sure.
635
00:42:28,970 --> 00:42:33,610
Right. It's like, I care about comedy. Yeah. And I, and, and a little tweak
636
00:42:33,610 --> 00:42:40,990
takes a joke that gets, you know, a six and turns it into an eight and an eight is a way bigger laugh.
637
00:42:41,190 --> 00:42:44,230
Yeah. And sometimes it's just one little word.
638
00:42:44,850 --> 00:42:48,570
So when you're writing, when you write for these shows or when you're writing
639
00:42:48,570 --> 00:42:51,130
comedy, what's, what's the, is there a favorite for you?
640
00:42:51,170 --> 00:42:56,550
Like, do you enjoy writing comedy for, for live, you know, a club or do you,
641
00:42:56,550 --> 00:42:58,390
or you have more fun when you're writing for a show?
642
00:42:58,550 --> 00:43:04,130
Well, I like that I can do a little bit of everything because when you're acting,
643
00:43:04,370 --> 00:43:06,850
you get the credit for that.
644
00:43:07,050 --> 00:43:12,030
You know what I mean? Like there are people that don't know my writing producing credits at all.
645
00:43:12,330 --> 00:43:16,150
They just know my acting credits. And they're like, dude, you're hilarious.
646
00:43:16,530 --> 00:43:20,210
Like, what are you doing now? You know what I mean? And I'm like, I'm good, dude.
647
00:43:21,090 --> 00:43:23,190
You know, I'm working, I'm good.
648
00:43:24,980 --> 00:43:28,660
Yeah. The acting, you get the credit for it all. The writing,
649
00:43:28,860 --> 00:43:34,800
you may or may not get the credit, but you do get to see the whole thing come together.
650
00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:40,240
Like, and for me, you know, when Jamie finished doing the Jamie Foxx show,
651
00:43:40,460 --> 00:43:44,200
he started hosting shows. Like he hosted the MTV Awards.
652
00:43:44,460 --> 00:43:51,320
He hosted the ESPY Awards and he brought us along, you know, to be his writers.
653
00:43:51,420 --> 00:43:55,460
We knew his voice, you know, we all spoke the same language.
654
00:43:55,940 --> 00:44:00,320
We, you know, value comedy and we were able to make some great stuff.
655
00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:06,920
Like those early ESPY awards, you know, Jamie did the, the tennis ball song about Venus and Serena.
656
00:44:07,200 --> 00:44:10,380
That was something that we wrote. Really? You wrote that? Yeah.
657
00:44:10,540 --> 00:44:13,440
Like we, yeah, that was like a- Do you know that, Mike?
658
00:44:13,820 --> 00:44:16,720
Yeah. Well, no, but go ahead. I have something else to say. I was just going
659
00:44:16,720 --> 00:44:19,520
to say, like, so at the time I was seeing this, uh, this older woman.
660
00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:25,240
Yes. and uh we she made me okay all right and uh she and did you have on the
661
00:44:25,240 --> 00:44:31,260
shirt i was wearing my roosevelt shirts i've been wearing for years yes that's
662
00:44:31,260 --> 00:44:35,660
right yes yes yes no and i remember she she had made me watch that with her
663
00:44:35,660 --> 00:44:38,320
really yeah and i thought it was so,
664
00:44:39,020 --> 00:44:43,540
funny yeah i had such a great time with that yeah that was one of my first producing
665
00:44:43,540 --> 00:44:45,680
credits Really? That's amazing.
666
00:44:46,040 --> 00:44:49,380
I actually wrote on the ESPYs for six years.
667
00:44:50,474 --> 00:44:54,394
The first two years were with Jamie, but I'm a sports fan.
668
00:44:54,734 --> 00:44:59,274
So I stayed on board for four years after that. So I wrote for Sam Jackson.
669
00:44:59,414 --> 00:45:01,254
I wrote for Matthew Perry.
670
00:45:01,814 --> 00:45:05,714
Yeah, I wrote on that show for six years. Wow. I wrote for LeBron and Jimmy
671
00:45:05,714 --> 00:45:07,034
Kimmel when they hosted.
672
00:45:07,294 --> 00:45:12,094
And that's where, when I first met LeBron, Jimmy Kimmel's hosting the Oscars this year.
673
00:45:12,314 --> 00:45:17,694
I wrote for him on that show. So the ESPYs was a really good, fun show.
674
00:45:17,754 --> 00:45:20,854
That's so crazy. You know, I was going to mention that, you know,
675
00:45:20,874 --> 00:45:24,814
you wrote for a ton of shows, the ESPYs being one of them with Jimmy and LeBron.
676
00:45:24,954 --> 00:45:30,054
And I remember when I, when I saw you perform that night after we met and you,
677
00:45:30,154 --> 00:45:35,734
I think you, I'm pretty sure you told the joke that night of LeBron making a
678
00:45:35,734 --> 00:45:38,234
hundred dollar endorsement deal off Nike before he even played.
679
00:45:38,254 --> 00:45:39,974
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. LeBron. Yeah.
680
00:45:40,074 --> 00:45:44,434
Nike paid LeBron a hundred million dollars before he ever played a professional
681
00:45:44,434 --> 00:45:48,414
game. And that if that happened to you before you ever worked, you would retire.
682
00:45:48,574 --> 00:45:51,094
Yeah. Yeah. My first thought is I would retire that day.
683
00:45:52,334 --> 00:45:57,234
So, yeah. Tell me a little bit more about like... So that joke came from the
684
00:45:57,234 --> 00:45:58,834
experience of working with LeBron.
685
00:45:59,034 --> 00:46:02,754
Okay. And that was a dream job for a writer.
686
00:46:02,814 --> 00:46:06,134
A lot of times as a writer, like every experience is different.
687
00:46:06,194 --> 00:46:09,254
It depends on who you're writing for and what their writing style is.
688
00:46:09,414 --> 00:46:15,114
Like Jamie's one of those dudes where, you know, I remember we used to all work
689
00:46:15,114 --> 00:46:17,134
on ideas independent of him.
690
00:46:17,174 --> 00:46:20,914
And then he would come in, we would pitch him the ideas and Jamie,
691
00:46:21,074 --> 00:46:24,634
like Jamie's literally one of the most talented people I've ever been around.
692
00:46:24,794 --> 00:46:31,154
And he has this ability to, if he likes an idea, absorb it and make it his in
693
00:46:31,154 --> 00:46:34,654
a way that I've never worked with anybody in that way.
694
00:46:34,834 --> 00:46:41,994
Like he's just, his talent level is something else. So that's one way to work, right?
695
00:46:42,274 --> 00:46:48,334
But I've also been in situations where it's very hands-on and collaborative.
696
00:46:48,634 --> 00:46:54,034
You know what I mean? I wrote the pilot for George Lopez's talk show.
697
00:46:54,334 --> 00:46:57,034
And that was a very different experience.
698
00:46:57,474 --> 00:47:01,394
I used to open for George back in the day. So I know George's voice,
699
00:47:01,694 --> 00:47:05,334
but that was really hands-on, him and I working together on that.
700
00:47:05,494 --> 00:47:07,394
That was a cool experience.
701
00:47:08,174 --> 00:47:14,694
Everyone's different. My friend and mentor, Gary Shandling, before he passed
702
00:47:14,694 --> 00:47:21,374
away, we were working on an idea based on his journals. He kept journals all throughout his life.
703
00:47:21,774 --> 00:47:26,914
And so we were working on a series idea called Halfway to Hawaii,
704
00:47:27,134 --> 00:47:33,334
because that was his plan, was to buy some property in Hawaii and retire in Hawaii,
705
00:47:33,614 --> 00:47:38,014
but he was halfway there because he was still half in Hollywood and half had
706
00:47:38,014 --> 00:47:39,434
this dream of getting to Hawaii.
707
00:47:39,794 --> 00:47:45,574
So his process was very different than some of the other people that I worked with.
708
00:47:46,226 --> 00:47:51,546
I spent a year as a writer on The Tonight Show, and it was Jay Leno's last year.
709
00:47:51,806 --> 00:47:58,526
Jay Leno was the host for 17 years. I got hired his last year when Barack Obama
710
00:47:58,526 --> 00:48:00,966
secured the Democratic nomination.
711
00:48:01,686 --> 00:48:05,746
NBC executive was like, hey, we're about to have a black president.
712
00:48:05,866 --> 00:48:08,086
We should probably have a black writer on this show.
713
00:48:08,606 --> 00:48:12,146
So they went to the diversity department. It took that.
714
00:48:12,326 --> 00:48:19,286
Yeah, it took that. But, you know, that's the business that we work in. So that was 2008.
715
00:48:19,646 --> 00:48:22,566
They didn't have any black writers in the diversity department.
716
00:48:22,906 --> 00:48:27,306
One of the writers on staff said, I know somebody that I think would be perfect for this.
717
00:48:27,446 --> 00:48:29,386
So they recommended me for that job.
718
00:48:29,526 --> 00:48:34,246
I remember I had to submit a page of monologue jokes, 25 jokes I wrote.
719
00:48:34,646 --> 00:48:39,866
And, you know, my monologue submission page was good enough that they hired me.
720
00:48:40,006 --> 00:48:44,026
So I spent a year writing for Jay. And that was a very different experience.
721
00:48:44,206 --> 00:48:48,006
That was like, you know, you're writing on The Tonight Show. It's five days a week.
722
00:48:48,246 --> 00:48:53,386
You know, Jay's monologue at the time was 27 to 35 jokes a night.
723
00:48:53,646 --> 00:48:56,426
He had 18 writers at the time.
724
00:48:56,786 --> 00:49:00,646
And so he likes to read a lot of jokes.
725
00:49:00,886 --> 00:49:07,066
He would probably read a thousand jokes a day to get to that 18 to 37 jokes
726
00:49:07,066 --> 00:49:08,806
that would make up the monologue.
727
00:49:08,806 --> 00:49:13,826
So every day I'm getting up at five in the morning, I'm looking at the news
728
00:49:13,826 --> 00:49:17,526
stories, I'm reading newspapers and I'm writing monologue jokes.
729
00:49:17,786 --> 00:49:22,926
Like I felt like the Tonight Show was like getting paid to go to grad school.
730
00:49:23,426 --> 00:49:28,626
You know what I mean? Like it was really just the discipline of having to write
731
00:49:28,626 --> 00:49:35,206
monologue jokes every single day for a year straight. It strengthens your skills.
732
00:49:35,386 --> 00:49:40,106
And also Jay Leno's Tonight Show was a very mainstream show.
733
00:49:40,186 --> 00:49:42,866
It's very different than Jimmy Fallon's Tonight Show.
734
00:49:43,026 --> 00:49:47,886
You know what I mean? It's a lot more current event based and topical.
735
00:49:48,026 --> 00:49:55,706
And I learned how to write for mainstream America. So you were on the writing
736
00:49:55,706 --> 00:50:01,246
for the monologue section of the show. Yes, but you also do other things.
737
00:50:01,266 --> 00:50:05,426
Like he used to do a bit called jaywalking, which he would go out.
738
00:50:06,535 --> 00:50:10,815
To, we go to Universal, which was not far from NBC where we shot the show.
739
00:50:10,995 --> 00:50:14,995
And he would, you know, we'd all get in a van, we'd get out of the van,
740
00:50:15,135 --> 00:50:19,455
he'd show up at Universal and they would just interview tourists and ask them
741
00:50:19,455 --> 00:50:20,995
these really basic questions.
742
00:50:21,415 --> 00:50:25,715
And people don't know shit. Right. You know what I mean? So that was the bit.
743
00:50:25,835 --> 00:50:28,075
You asked him a question about something that's not even real.
744
00:50:28,095 --> 00:50:33,775
Yes. And part of it is the pressure of being on camera and having to perform,
745
00:50:33,775 --> 00:50:38,355
which makes your brain kind of fog, but also people don't know shit.
746
00:50:38,375 --> 00:50:42,875
But they also so badly wanna be in the spotlight. They wanna act like they know something.
747
00:50:42,955 --> 00:50:46,735
So that was a really interesting refillable bit.
748
00:50:47,535 --> 00:50:51,935
Yeah, you wrote for everything, but I was primarily a monologue writer on that
749
00:50:51,935 --> 00:50:53,275
show. Wow. Right, right.
750
00:50:53,655 --> 00:51:01,475
And so you mentioned Gary Shandling and Gary, he's one of like the best there
751
00:51:01,475 --> 00:51:02,935
ever was, right? Absolutely.
752
00:51:03,195 --> 00:51:08,455
Absolutely. So how do you meet? How does that? Well, I met Gary Shandling as an actor.
753
00:51:08,715 --> 00:51:14,595
I got cast on the Larry Sanders show. The episode was pain equals funny,
754
00:51:14,755 --> 00:51:18,695
which is genius because it's the truth. It's the truth.
755
00:51:18,875 --> 00:51:23,715
And I played a writer on that show and I played a writer before I became a writer.
756
00:51:23,715 --> 00:51:27,115
So that also speaks to gary's genius
757
00:51:27,115 --> 00:51:31,135
that he cast me as something
758
00:51:31,135 --> 00:51:34,275
that i later would become he saw something in
759
00:51:34,275 --> 00:51:37,015
there that yeah i mean we didn't even know each other
760
00:51:37,015 --> 00:51:42,475
i was just cast as an actor and so the first day on set i i have to say this
761
00:51:42,475 --> 00:51:48,895
the larry sanders show is one of my favorite tv shows of all time before i met
762
00:51:48,895 --> 00:51:54,295
gary i just loved that show i thought it was super smart I thought the characters
763
00:51:54,295 --> 00:51:56,955
were grounded in reality it was funny,
764
00:51:57,115 --> 00:52:00,115
but it felt real and I felt like I was,
765
00:52:00,655 --> 00:52:04,075
These relationships I was invested in it.
766
00:52:05,158 --> 00:52:12,198
It really was an honor just to get cast on that show. So I was excited to be a part of that show.
767
00:52:12,438 --> 00:52:16,358
And I just figured it would be like the Married With Children situation.
768
00:52:16,718 --> 00:52:21,418
You're a guest star, you're coming on, you do your lines, and then you keep it pushing.
769
00:52:21,738 --> 00:52:28,038
I ended up having a conversation with Gary on set, and we talked about Muhammad Ali.
770
00:52:28,298 --> 00:52:33,878
And we both were big fans of Muhammad Ali. And so we had like an hour and a
771
00:52:33,878 --> 00:52:36,238
half talk about Muhammad Ali.
772
00:52:36,478 --> 00:52:42,538
And I was like, it was weird because I was a fan of Gary's standup and I loved the Larry Sanders show.
773
00:52:42,778 --> 00:52:48,298
And after that conversation, I was like, this dude is the coolest dude in the world.
774
00:52:48,418 --> 00:52:51,538
Like he's grounded. He's real.
775
00:52:52,378 --> 00:52:55,898
Like he, you know, he was just all that. And then some, they say,
776
00:52:55,998 --> 00:52:57,618
you know, never meet your heroes.
777
00:52:57,618 --> 00:53:00,698
That was one where it was like oh this
778
00:53:00,698 --> 00:53:04,138
dude is amazing so i
779
00:53:04,138 --> 00:53:07,218
did that episode and then
780
00:53:07,218 --> 00:53:10,298
gary had a sunday invite only basketball
781
00:53:10,298 --> 00:53:13,438
game that i got invited to play in after
782
00:53:13,438 --> 00:53:16,758
doing that show look at you so yeah so
783
00:53:16,758 --> 00:53:20,078
i played in gary's game for 18 years what
784
00:53:20,078 --> 00:53:23,438
did you wear any of your jerseys you know
785
00:53:23,438 --> 00:53:26,698
what's funny is i was so excited that
786
00:53:26,698 --> 00:53:30,138
i got the invite because that was really like an a-list exclusive
787
00:53:30,138 --> 00:53:34,058
you're in you're in there like who did you i didn't want like sarah silverman
788
00:53:34,058 --> 00:53:38,098
played in that game david de covney played in that game sasha barrett cohen
789
00:53:38,098 --> 00:53:42,598
played in that game kevin nealon played in that game wow like there were some
790
00:53:42,598 --> 00:53:46,818
it was like this think tank of super funny people.
791
00:53:47,518 --> 00:53:50,518
And we all just hung out in Gary's house on a Sunday.
792
00:53:50,818 --> 00:53:56,898
Like it's the most, to this day, you know, like hanging out with Jamie was incredible,
793
00:53:57,058 --> 00:53:58,638
like a different kind of incredible. Right.
794
00:53:58,918 --> 00:54:05,818
But hanging out with Gary every Sunday, like I had a family in a real life.
795
00:54:05,818 --> 00:54:08,518
There were times where I didn't want to go back to my real life.
796
00:54:08,558 --> 00:54:11,258
You know what I mean? I wouldn't either. Like it was like sleep away camp.
797
00:54:11,398 --> 00:54:14,518
You know what I mean? You didn't want it to end yeah and it
798
00:54:14,518 --> 00:54:18,158
was like like i said it was the perfect mix of basketball and
799
00:54:18,158 --> 00:54:23,738
like these super funny people that you just were so glad to be able to spend
800
00:54:23,738 --> 00:54:28,818
that time with and how awesome for you that you got like a mix of of what it
801
00:54:28,818 --> 00:54:32,998
was like to be with with jamie foxx and those and that group and then you worked
802
00:54:32,998 --> 00:54:37,278
with george lopez and his group and yeah and now you're with gary shanling Well,
803
00:54:37,338 --> 00:54:42,738
it's like I've been really fortunate in that way where I've worked with a lot
804
00:54:42,738 --> 00:54:45,498
of the best minds in comedy.
805
00:54:45,638 --> 00:54:48,358
Yeah. You know what I mean? Which is probably why you care about it so much.
806
00:54:48,518 --> 00:54:55,198
I really do. Like even to this day, I still have that approach of somebody that's just starting out.
807
00:54:55,618 --> 00:54:58,478
Awesome. But I care about it in a way where...
808
00:54:59,289 --> 00:55:02,849
It's precious to me. It's like a precious, it's a diamond to me.
809
00:55:03,089 --> 00:55:07,049
Yeah. You also, you did some work on Last Comic Standing.
810
00:55:07,469 --> 00:55:10,989
That was the job that I did right before I got hired on The Tonight Show.
811
00:55:11,169 --> 00:55:20,049
Really? I got hired as a producer and that was the year that Liza Schlesinger and Jeff Dye were on.
812
00:55:20,269 --> 00:55:23,309
They had two two-hour specials right
813
00:55:23,309 --> 00:55:26,249
before the Olympics started and they wanted to come
814
00:55:26,249 --> 00:55:29,069
up with content for the contestants other than just
815
00:55:29,069 --> 00:55:31,969
making them do head-to-head battles so i
816
00:55:31,969 --> 00:55:36,029
got hired with a couple of other writers that i'm still really close with and
817
00:55:36,029 --> 00:55:40,509
we just came up with with fun stuff for them to do other than compete against
818
00:55:40,509 --> 00:55:46,269
each other and that was a job that i literally that production office was across
819
00:55:46,269 --> 00:55:50,669
the street from nbc so when i got hired on the
820
00:55:50,709 --> 00:55:53,909
tonight show and I had to turn in those monologue jokes,
821
00:55:54,069 --> 00:55:57,789
I literally walked across the street to take that meeting.
822
00:55:57,989 --> 00:56:03,669
And so it was a very interesting time in my life where it was like one job led to another job.
823
00:56:03,809 --> 00:56:07,269
Like I was, it was funny. I finished up last comic standing.
824
00:56:07,569 --> 00:56:14,949
I had two weeks off in that two weeks. I wrote and shot the pilot for George Lopez's talk show.
825
00:56:15,189 --> 00:56:19,009
I had one week off and then I started at the, at the tonight show.
826
00:56:19,009 --> 00:56:24,609
I talk about this often with Uncle Dad and other guests we have where when you
827
00:56:24,609 --> 00:56:29,589
love what you're doing and you're committed to your craft and you believe that
828
00:56:29,589 --> 00:56:32,209
that is your true purpose and you're following that,
829
00:56:32,409 --> 00:56:35,909
one opportunity is what leads to the next.
830
00:56:36,009 --> 00:56:38,749
And if you're paying attention, will lead to the next. Sure.
831
00:56:38,969 --> 00:56:41,689
Even if it's right across the street with the competition.
832
00:56:42,049 --> 00:56:46,189
Sure. Did you ever get to work with Norm McDonald? I did.
833
00:56:46,269 --> 00:56:49,329
I was friends with Norm. another it's funny
834
00:56:49,329 --> 00:56:52,589
that we're you know we're here in san francisco right
835
00:56:52,589 --> 00:56:55,869
now because i remember when he played cobs
836
00:56:55,869 --> 00:57:00,489
which which i played with sean in december and we just hung out we just hung
837
00:57:00,489 --> 00:57:06,429
out like we just you know after a show you know i think i i i saw that he was
838
00:57:06,429 --> 00:57:12,769
performing at cobs and i stopped in and we were friends and we just hung out
839
00:57:12,769 --> 00:57:14,029
all that night afterwards and
840
00:57:14,069 --> 00:57:16,529
talk comedy, and I remember the conversation.
841
00:57:17,429 --> 00:57:20,389
You know, Norm was one of those dudes, like, game recognizes game.
842
00:57:20,889 --> 00:57:26,269
And I remember we talked about who he thought the best working stand-up at the
843
00:57:26,269 --> 00:57:30,449
time was, and he thought Patrice O'Neill was, pound for pound,
844
00:57:30,569 --> 00:57:33,029
the best comic working at the time. Yes. You like that.
845
00:57:33,249 --> 00:57:36,949
Yeah. I think, in my opinion, Patrice O'Neill is one of the most underrated
846
00:57:36,949 --> 00:57:38,749
comedians out there. Absolutely.
847
00:57:39,009 --> 00:57:42,029
Because he was so fucking good at what he did. Yeah, absolutely.
848
00:57:42,449 --> 00:57:46,949
He knew his voice. Yes. He knew how to push the envelope. A hundred percent. He wasn't afraid of.
849
00:57:48,405 --> 00:57:52,725
Making the audience uncomfortable because he knew he had the skills to get them back.
850
00:57:52,845 --> 00:57:58,225
And he did it in a way that was smart and he did it in a way that was 100% him, I felt.
851
00:57:58,425 --> 00:58:02,985
Yes. Yeah. But I'll never forget that. Norm was saying, hey,
852
00:58:03,005 --> 00:58:06,545
you know who I think is really great right now? Patrice O'Neill.
853
00:58:07,105 --> 00:58:11,225
Norm, I miss Norm. One of my favorite lines he ever said was,
854
00:58:11,385 --> 00:58:14,665
people are scared that they're going to die in a plane crash.
855
00:58:14,905 --> 00:58:18,305
They're going to die from a terrorist attack but no one's
856
00:58:18,305 --> 00:58:21,185
afraid of your heart attacking you
857
00:58:21,185 --> 00:58:23,945
and kill you which is a lot more likely than dying in
858
00:58:23,945 --> 00:58:26,665
a plane or dying from a terrorist he had such a great way
859
00:58:26,665 --> 00:58:32,545
of just dissecting stuff yeah and you know he was like i really i miss norm
860
00:58:32,545 --> 00:58:35,805
you know what i mean like he was such he was another one of those just great
861
00:58:35,805 --> 00:58:40,705
ones like i said i was i'm i'm super fortunate The time that I started doing
862
00:58:40,705 --> 00:58:43,965
comedy in was really a golden era.
863
00:58:44,265 --> 00:58:48,605
And I've had the pleasure of working with a lot of the best.
864
00:58:48,725 --> 00:58:54,285
Like I haven't even talked about Cedric the Entertainer, who's a very good friend of mine.
865
00:58:54,465 --> 00:58:59,685
You know, I took a consulting producing credit on one of his specials back in the day.
866
00:58:59,745 --> 00:59:03,805
I wrote for him when he did the White House Correspondents Dinner.
867
00:59:04,405 --> 00:59:09,765
I also wrote for him when he hosted the Emmys, you know, he reached out to me
868
00:59:09,765 --> 00:59:14,465
and said, Hey, I want you to be my head writer on the Emmys, which was great.
869
00:59:14,545 --> 00:59:17,505
How does that feel when, when you get that call? Well, it was unbelievable,
870
00:59:17,505 --> 00:59:19,605
dude, because it was coming out of the pandemic.
871
00:59:20,345 --> 00:59:25,305
You know, when the pandemic hit, you know, I was touring with Sean Wayans and,
872
00:59:25,325 --> 00:59:31,265
you know, all our tour dates went away because all the clubs closed and everything shut down.
873
00:59:31,405 --> 00:59:38,385
And, you know, comics, that's how we make our money. And so that was all shut down.
874
00:59:39,525 --> 00:59:45,465
Yeah. To get that call to write for Cedric on the Emmys, it was incredible, dude.
875
00:59:45,665 --> 00:59:49,425
And we had a great time. We had fun. People liked the show.
876
00:59:50,225 --> 00:59:54,365
I remember when we finished, Cedric was like, yo, we just did the Emmys,
877
00:59:54,365 --> 00:59:57,865
dog. Like, it was like, it was great. It was great.
878
00:59:58,025 --> 01:00:04,065
It was great. And that also, you know, that year, I wrote for Cedric on the
879
01:00:04,065 --> 01:00:09,865
Emmys, I wrote on the American Music Awards, and then I wrote on last year's Oscars.
880
01:00:09,905 --> 01:00:16,485
So I did three big award shows back to back to back, which, you know,
881
01:00:16,525 --> 01:00:22,425
I think all started from the job that I did on the Emmys.
882
01:00:22,985 --> 01:00:27,905
Wow. I really want to talk, of course, about the Oscars, but before I get into
883
01:00:27,905 --> 01:00:33,065
that, let me ask you, when you're working on something like the Emmys or the Oscars, do you feel.
884
01:00:34,794 --> 01:00:39,694
A different kind of pressure to be more funny or funnier or just more pressure
885
01:00:39,694 --> 01:00:42,954
in general than like just, I don't know. You do feel pressure.
886
01:00:43,354 --> 01:00:45,394
The Oscars was a lot of pressure.
887
01:00:45,854 --> 01:00:51,434
The Emmys was a lot of pressure. The Emmys was a lot of pressure because I didn't
888
01:00:51,434 --> 01:00:52,714
know the Oscars was coming.
889
01:00:52,934 --> 01:00:56,594
And I knew this was a chance for me to make an impact.
890
01:00:56,854 --> 01:01:04,214
And the fact that I was Cedric's head writer, later, I really wanted it to be great.
891
01:01:04,554 --> 01:01:10,514
And so I did feel a lot of pressure and coming out of the pandemic,
892
01:01:10,714 --> 01:01:14,294
I felt like people need a lift.
893
01:01:14,634 --> 01:01:17,114
So I wanted the show to be really strong.
894
01:01:17,514 --> 01:01:21,034
Yeah. I felt pressure. Yeah. I definitely felt. Okay. So you're,
895
01:01:21,094 --> 01:01:23,554
yeah, you're, you're human and you feel pressure. I felt pressure.
896
01:01:24,054 --> 01:01:27,994
I also, you know, you trust it,
897
01:01:28,074 --> 01:01:30,934
you know, once again, if you care about
898
01:01:30,934 --> 01:01:34,014
comedy and you care about the craft it's the
899
01:01:34,014 --> 01:01:36,734
technique that's going to get you over and it's that
900
01:01:36,734 --> 01:01:39,954
commitment to the craft that's going to get you over so
901
01:01:39,954 --> 01:01:44,114
while you do feel pressure you're like i'm built for this i'm here for i'm here
902
01:01:44,114 --> 01:01:47,994
for a reason i'm here for i got the call from cedric newtanner yep because of
903
01:01:47,994 --> 01:01:54,134
what i am and i was smart enough with with him because you know like i i genuinely
904
01:01:54,134 --> 01:01:59,114
enjoy that guy like he makes me laugh really hard we make each other Like,
905
01:01:59,254 --> 01:02:01,654
you know, we've got a great camaraderie.
906
01:02:01,654 --> 01:02:06,014
So what I would do, which was pretty smart on my part.
907
01:02:07,094 --> 01:02:10,794
You know, we would do pitch ideas and come up with stuff.
908
01:02:10,934 --> 01:02:16,454
And then we would get together on our own on the weekends and we would just
909
01:02:16,454 --> 01:02:18,814
work on ideas separately.
910
01:02:19,094 --> 01:02:25,194
And I felt like that was a really smart play because we had a direct connection
911
01:02:25,194 --> 01:02:31,274
and we're banging out these ideas and making it as funny as possible between us.
912
01:02:31,354 --> 01:02:35,614
So then I could go back and go, this is what the host wants to do.
913
01:02:35,614 --> 01:02:43,714
And so there's no middleman or no so i could bring you know a pure idea back to the source,
914
01:02:44,234 --> 01:02:48,634
so and that was fun too because you gotta remember with all the pressure of
915
01:02:48,634 --> 01:02:54,134
these big shows you still got to make it fun right and if you guys aren't laughing one-on-one.
916
01:02:55,194 --> 01:02:58,894
It's not gonna it's not gonna translate and but and also you probably have to
917
01:02:58,894 --> 01:03:03,434
now you know the the way you have to write comedy to not offend or upset anyone,
918
01:03:04,154 --> 01:03:08,714
how much of that goes into the writing of like, oh, is this too much? Or is this too much now?
919
01:03:08,854 --> 01:03:12,674
Yeah, I mean, I think you gotta at least get to that point where you're legit laughing at it.
920
01:03:12,874 --> 01:03:16,874
You know what I mean? Like if you're not laughing at what you're creating, it's not gonna be funny.
921
01:03:16,994 --> 01:03:20,574
But I mean, as far as like being funny- I mean, you're always gonna have to
922
01:03:20,574 --> 01:03:22,334
deal with network notes, that's part of it.
923
01:03:22,434 --> 01:03:26,054
You know what I mean? Or time constraints or, you know, like there was something
924
01:03:26,054 --> 01:03:32,114
that happened with the Emmys where the monologue, Cedric's monologue got cut at the last minute.
925
01:03:32,994 --> 01:03:40,174
And, you know, we had had all these other jokes that time constraints prevented us from getting to.
926
01:03:40,374 --> 01:03:45,634
And so I remember being a little upset about that.
927
01:03:46,660 --> 01:03:51,460
To the point where I had to go take a walk and kind of like chill out.
928
01:03:51,980 --> 01:03:56,500
And then I was like, you're at the Emmys, like go back and enjoy what this is.
929
01:03:56,640 --> 01:03:58,540
Just do a little woosah. Yes, exactly.
930
01:03:58,960 --> 01:04:04,840
But, you know, that is, that's, that's what happens in the, in the pressure and all that where,
931
01:04:05,000 --> 01:04:11,000
you know, you want to make an impact and you put these jokes in that you believe
932
01:04:11,000 --> 01:04:14,140
in and you want people to see them and enjoy them.
933
01:04:14,140 --> 01:04:16,880
And you know there's always stuff that's out of
934
01:04:16,880 --> 01:04:19,740
your control yeah so so you
935
01:04:19,740 --> 01:04:23,920
go from the emmys to the oscars and everyone
936
01:04:23,920 --> 01:04:27,340
knows what happens what happened at the oscars yeah with you
937
01:04:27,340 --> 01:04:30,180
know chris rock and the slap yes as
938
01:04:30,180 --> 01:04:32,960
it's been it's been called yeah it's been called the
939
01:04:32,960 --> 01:04:35,820
slap heard around the world yeah for sure which
940
01:04:35,820 --> 01:04:38,640
is ridiculous i feel like you know what's funny about the
941
01:04:38,640 --> 01:04:41,440
slap is like you know do you remember like when kim kardashian did
942
01:04:41,440 --> 01:04:44,720
that thing break the internet to me i
943
01:04:44,720 --> 01:04:48,900
feel like the slap broke the internet it was insane how it was everywhere yeah
944
01:04:48,900 --> 01:04:54,180
well imagine being there oh yeah well with a with a tuxedo on take us there
945
01:04:54,180 --> 01:05:03,500
yeah take us there paint the picture this was my first oscars i felt like i busted my ass this year.
946
01:05:04,120 --> 01:05:10,300
Writing on the emmys writing on the american music awards and getting the opportunity
947
01:05:10,300 --> 01:05:11,920
to to write on the Oscars.
948
01:05:12,280 --> 01:05:16,720
You know, I started doing standup in 1989.
949
01:05:17,720 --> 01:05:23,400
I graduated college in 90. There's no way you could have told me as a young
950
01:05:23,400 --> 01:05:26,900
standup, one day you're gonna write on the Oscars. I bet, yeah.
951
01:05:27,060 --> 01:05:32,340
So that, you know, I went to UCLA. I grew up in Los Angeles.
952
01:05:32,620 --> 01:05:38,800
You know what I mean? Like to go from, nothing is promised in comedy. Nothing's promised.
953
01:05:39,080 --> 01:05:48,920
Right. To go from maybe you'll have a career at this to writing on the Academy Awards is a huge deal.
954
01:05:49,100 --> 01:05:55,320
Yeah. Right. And you feel the pressure of the year before it was at a train
955
01:05:55,320 --> 01:05:57,560
station in downtown Los Angeles.
956
01:05:57,860 --> 01:06:03,840
So this is the first time that it's back at the Dolby and it's less COVID.
957
01:06:03,840 --> 01:06:05,180
Yeah, you know what I mean?
958
01:06:05,240 --> 01:06:10,480
Like so it's gonna be the Oscars again and you want to make an impact and you
959
01:06:10,480 --> 01:06:13,440
want it to be great and the producers.
960
01:06:15,575 --> 01:06:20,515
They had worked with my daughter, right, on a project. And I had never worked with them.
961
01:06:20,655 --> 01:06:26,135
So my first meeting at the Dolby, I sat down in the office, and the first thing
962
01:06:26,135 --> 01:06:28,735
they said to me was, we love your daughter.
963
01:06:29,075 --> 01:06:36,055
And I'm thinking, what better way to start my Oscar experience than these producers,
964
01:06:36,275 --> 01:06:39,855
Will Packer, Shayla Cowan, saying, we love your daughter.
965
01:06:39,975 --> 01:06:45,475
Yeah, awesome. Like this is a magic moment that, you know, it's,
966
01:06:45,475 --> 01:06:47,975
this is going to be incredible. This is going to be incredible.
967
01:06:49,215 --> 01:06:52,435
And the show was incredible. You know what I mean? It's just,
968
01:06:52,455 --> 01:06:56,735
it got reduced to that moment and that sucks.
969
01:06:57,075 --> 01:07:01,255
You know what I mean? Like the Oscars is a long show. It's a three hour show.
970
01:07:01,435 --> 01:07:05,895
That was the last half hour of the show. It was the best documentary category.
971
01:07:05,895 --> 01:07:13,455
Chris Rock is a two-time former Oscar host who is extremely skilled as a comedian,
972
01:07:13,775 --> 01:07:18,455
but he's also held the reins of what being the host is.
973
01:07:18,895 --> 01:07:26,135
He's just coming in and he's responsible for 45 seconds of comedy and then to
974
01:07:26,135 --> 01:07:32,175
read the copy to present an award to what is most likely his friend Questlove.
975
01:07:32,735 --> 01:07:40,795
That's right. So it should have been easy breezy and it was anything but that. Yeah. Yeah. It's yeah.
976
01:07:41,255 --> 01:07:45,775
Yeah. Just to give you a context of what my perspective was.
977
01:07:45,855 --> 01:07:51,695
And at the time I'm in the green room, there's a special green room for all the presenters, right?
978
01:07:51,895 --> 01:07:56,615
They call it the Rolex green room. Oh, what's in there? Some chocolates.
979
01:07:57,135 --> 01:08:00,515
Some Rolexes? I wish. Trust me.
980
01:08:00,635 --> 01:08:03,735
Chocolate covered Rolex. i looked i i i had
981
01:08:03,735 --> 01:08:06,395
a couple of the chocolates and i looked for the
982
01:08:06,395 --> 01:08:09,875
rolexes i didn't see the rolex the chocolates were delicious chocolates
983
01:08:09,875 --> 01:08:12,755
sponsored by rolex yes yeah no they were
984
01:08:12,755 --> 01:08:15,695
they were in a uh a little box and they
985
01:08:15,695 --> 01:08:18,675
had the rolex emblem on them no i was like dude
986
01:08:18,675 --> 01:08:21,595
like and first of all the adobe is beautiful it's a
987
01:08:21,595 --> 01:08:28,035
beautiful theater the rolex green room i felt like i was in monica okay so i'm
988
01:08:28,035 --> 01:08:35,715
wearing a tuxedo you know boys medium and uh hey that's mic size that's mic
989
01:08:35,715 --> 01:08:41,415
size too so i'm a boy's extra large nice nice nice men's extra large,
990
01:08:42,295 --> 01:08:49,655
so i'm in the rolex green room and the show is almost over you know my daughter
991
01:08:49,655 --> 01:08:51,015
i brought my daughter that night.
992
01:08:51,495 --> 01:08:57,615
And you know, I've been so busy, I haven't seen her during the show. And when.
993
01:08:59,038 --> 01:09:04,038
Turned south like that, you know, I'm watching the monitor and,
994
01:09:04,138 --> 01:09:11,838
you know, Will gets up and slaps Chris and then he sits back down and then he
995
01:09:11,838 --> 01:09:15,758
starts swearing and this is live.
996
01:09:16,018 --> 01:09:19,478
Yeah. I mean, you know, ABC network television live.
997
01:09:19,798 --> 01:09:22,758
Yeah. And it was so far
998
01:09:22,758 --> 01:09:26,578
out of left field that I
999
01:09:26,578 --> 01:09:29,238
couldn't vocalize anything you know what i
1000
01:09:29,238 --> 01:09:32,118
mean like i i just was like what what
1001
01:09:32,118 --> 01:09:34,918
like what what's happening right now did
1002
01:09:34,918 --> 01:09:38,098
you think at any point that this was set up beyond your
1003
01:09:38,098 --> 01:09:40,958
knowledge dude no i've been working on the
1004
01:09:40,958 --> 01:09:45,298
show for three months yeah so it was nothing nothing no there's no top secret
1005
01:09:45,298 --> 01:09:51,378
there's no top secret anything okay this is happening it's real and no one knows
1006
01:09:51,378 --> 01:09:59,078
how to And the guy that didn't curse in his raps is swearing on live television.
1007
01:09:59,158 --> 01:10:05,738
Crazy. I know. And I'm watching it on a monitor. What you guys saw was the bleeped version.
1008
01:10:06,478 --> 01:10:13,738
I'm there. What I'm seeing is not bleeped. What's the delay like? There was no delay. No.
1009
01:10:14,198 --> 01:10:19,698
It's a five second delay. Okay. But I'm hearing him swear for real.
1010
01:10:19,918 --> 01:10:23,538
Yeah. And I'm thinking, is the show going to go on?
1011
01:10:23,778 --> 01:10:28,058
Is like, what's happening? Is security going to come out? What is happening?
1012
01:10:28,398 --> 01:10:35,058
Yeah. So my first instinct was, let me go check on my daughter.
1013
01:10:35,558 --> 01:10:40,998
Because this clearly, whatever happens next is so far above my pay grade,
1014
01:10:41,218 --> 01:10:44,378
they're not going to be coming to me like, what do we do next?
1015
01:10:44,578 --> 01:10:47,898
Right, of course. You know what I mean? Like, we're in a code red situation.
1016
01:10:48,898 --> 01:10:55,318
So I went to go see my daughter. And the first thing she said to me was like, what happened, dad?
1017
01:10:55,458 --> 01:10:57,978
What was that all about? I said, I have no idea.
1018
01:10:58,618 --> 01:11:03,078
And then I'm also like, oh shit, I'm at the Oscars with my daughter.
1019
01:11:03,578 --> 01:11:08,938
I should probably take a picture of the two of us because we're at the Oscars, right? Right.
1020
01:11:09,258 --> 01:11:13,858
And you're in a tuxedo. And I'm in a tuxedo. Yeah. And she's dressed up and you know what I mean?
1021
01:11:13,878 --> 01:11:17,138
So we take a picture. after the
1022
01:11:17,138 --> 01:11:19,898
thing well yeah while i'm going to get her and
1023
01:11:19,898 --> 01:11:23,878
then i bring her downstairs because i don't know at this point i don't know
1024
01:11:23,878 --> 01:11:29,318
if the show is going to continue sure so i make sure she's okay then i go backstage
1025
01:11:29,318 --> 01:11:38,238
again and at this point i overhear a lawyer for abc say to chris.
1026
01:11:39,602 --> 01:11:43,382
You know, if you want to press charges, let us know. And Chris says, no.
1027
01:11:44,142 --> 01:11:49,322
And the lawyer says, if you change your mind, let me know.
1028
01:11:49,722 --> 01:11:54,502
And that moment was a moment where I was like, oh, this is really serious.
1029
01:11:54,742 --> 01:11:59,262
Because what lawyer says, if you change your mind, let me know.
1030
01:11:59,662 --> 01:12:05,202
You know what I mean? And then it just was a matter of, was the show going to continue?
1031
01:12:05,382 --> 01:12:11,142
And it did. And I think the reason that it did was because you had a two-time
1032
01:12:11,142 --> 01:12:17,542
Oscar host on stage in that moment who saved the show.
1033
01:12:17,722 --> 01:12:22,702
He knew how to keep it going, even though this crazy thing that we've never
1034
01:12:22,702 --> 01:12:24,522
witnessed before on TV. Yes.
1035
01:12:24,662 --> 01:12:30,302
And it's a testament to his professionalism and his skill and as a,
1036
01:12:30,322 --> 01:12:36,582
as a comedian and as somebody that understands that moment.
1037
01:12:36,742 --> 01:12:39,982
Like I hear a lot of comics talk about, if that was me, I would have,
1038
01:12:39,982 --> 01:12:43,182
which is nonsense. A, you wouldn't have been there.
1039
01:12:43,702 --> 01:12:47,962
And B, you know what I mean? Like, it's just nonsense. Nonsense.
1040
01:12:48,342 --> 01:12:57,362
Like I credit Chris Rock so much for having the poise to deal with something
1041
01:12:57,362 --> 01:13:03,242
in real time that would have shook 99.9% of the people on this planet.
1042
01:13:03,562 --> 01:13:07,622
You know, so let me ask you something on that. I'm just curious is when that
1043
01:13:07,622 --> 01:13:10,162
happened, I don't know if you felt this way, Mike, but when it happened,
1044
01:13:10,282 --> 01:13:13,142
I thought it was ridiculous that they didn't escort him out
1045
01:13:13,142 --> 01:13:15,882
because if it would have been Mike that walked up to that stage and
1046
01:13:15,882 --> 01:13:18,582
slapped left him there's no way he would have been there well i
1047
01:13:18,582 --> 01:13:21,882
feel like if it would have been but it's a weird collision of
1048
01:13:21,882 --> 01:13:24,862
celebrity it's a weird collision it's
1049
01:13:24,862 --> 01:13:27,962
will smith we're at an award show to honor
1050
01:13:27,962 --> 01:13:30,702
somebody that is nominated for the
1051
01:13:30,702 --> 01:13:33,582
best actor prize who's probably going to win
1052
01:13:33,582 --> 01:13:36,442
and that is what it
1053
01:13:36,442 --> 01:13:43,982
is about and for me i'll tell you this i am very close to both will and jada
1054
01:13:43,982 --> 01:13:51,142
and Chris Rock so I was in a weird situation where these are two peers of mine
1055
01:13:51,142 --> 01:13:53,682
sure and what happened in that moment.
1056
01:13:55,122 --> 01:14:01,862
Had nothing to do with my personal relationship with them, but it's also a working relationship.
1057
01:14:02,182 --> 01:14:05,462
Right. Like my name is on this show.
1058
01:14:05,542 --> 01:14:11,102
Yeah. And immediately what happened afterwards, like we're all in a daze.
1059
01:14:11,242 --> 01:14:14,922
You know what I mean? Like, keep in mind, we've been working on this for three months.
1060
01:14:15,122 --> 01:14:19,222
Right. I got hired before they named the hosts.
1061
01:14:19,382 --> 01:14:23,622
And I was used to working with one host that I had a relationship with,
1062
01:14:23,702 --> 01:14:27,922
this is the first time that I was in a situation where I had to work with three different hosts.
1063
01:14:28,062 --> 01:14:34,582
And while I knew them in different ways, it still was, you're managing the interests
1064
01:14:34,582 --> 01:14:40,102
of three people that all have separate ideas of what they want this experience to be.
1065
01:14:40,222 --> 01:14:46,042
So it already had its own challenges as a writer later servicing,
1066
01:14:46,122 --> 01:14:49,542
you know, this, this, this major show.
1067
01:14:50,122 --> 01:14:55,262
So when that happened, it just do everything for a loop. Sure.
1068
01:14:55,422 --> 01:15:00,062
And then when the show that I remember as I was walking backstage,
1069
01:15:00,642 --> 01:15:05,482
as the show was ending, I looked up on one of the monitors and I saw the written
1070
01:15:05,482 --> 01:15:10,722
by credits and I was like, Oh damn, that's my name up there. Right.
1071
01:15:11,182 --> 01:15:13,462
But this thing is now a disaster.
1072
01:15:24,082 --> 01:15:26,242
You know what I mean?
1073
01:15:43,462 --> 01:15:47,122
Award show or something like that. I don't really talk about it until after
1074
01:15:47,122 --> 01:15:49,622
it's done, but the Oscars is different.
1075
01:15:49,802 --> 01:15:55,222
They do a press release when they hire you because they're proud that you're
1076
01:15:55,222 --> 01:16:00,002
getting this opportunity and they want people to know this is who we've hired.
1077
01:16:00,202 --> 01:16:06,402
So I can't pretend like I didn't just do this and people know that I've done it.
1078
01:16:06,542 --> 01:16:09,242
So So that was interesting.
1079
01:16:09,462 --> 01:16:12,882
And then people would screenshot the credits.
1080
01:16:13,422 --> 01:16:19,602
And in an attempt to make sense of what just happened, someone with a blue check
1081
01:16:19,602 --> 01:16:24,482
said, I can confirm that Chris Rock did not write that joke.
1082
01:16:24,582 --> 01:16:27,902
And it was written by these people. Name that person.
1083
01:16:28,522 --> 01:16:35,522
So you're now being thrown under the bus for something you had nothing to do
1084
01:16:35,522 --> 01:16:38,662
with. That's insane somebody would even do that, right? Who did that? Name this person.
1085
01:16:38,762 --> 01:16:41,022
Who did that? They had a blue check. Blue check person.
1086
01:16:41,522 --> 01:16:47,162
And, you know, so then you're dealing with that. Sure. And then also here's
1087
01:16:47,162 --> 01:16:48,682
another weird thing about the Oscars.
1088
01:16:49,758 --> 01:16:55,438
Right after the Oscars, the first party is the Governor's Ball,
1089
01:16:55,578 --> 01:17:00,798
which is upstairs in the same, you know, facility.
1090
01:17:01,178 --> 01:17:05,118
So everyone's in a tuxedo that's just watched this show.
1091
01:17:05,278 --> 01:17:09,898
And we're all taking these escalators up to the Governor's Ball. Is it dead quiet?
1092
01:17:10,598 --> 01:17:13,618
People are trying to figure out what they just witnessed. Right.
1093
01:17:13,738 --> 01:17:15,278
So people are like, was that real?
1094
01:17:15,558 --> 01:17:18,498
What was that about? out like you know like i
1095
01:17:18,498 --> 01:17:21,618
remember so i'm with my daughter right and
1096
01:17:21,618 --> 01:17:25,118
i'm holding my the train in my daughter's dress as
1097
01:17:25,118 --> 01:17:29,438
we're going up this escalator and i'm having this conversation i'm having this
1098
01:17:29,438 --> 01:17:35,838
conversation with this guy that won an oscar for you know a short film and i'm
1099
01:17:35,838 --> 01:17:40,158
like oh that's great you won an oscar congratulations and i'm like oh i you
1100
01:17:40,158 --> 01:17:43,678
know he's like what what did you do on the I was like, oh, I was a writer on the show.
1101
01:17:43,898 --> 01:17:47,578
And he was like, hey, what just happened with Chris Rock and Will Smith?
1102
01:17:47,938 --> 01:17:52,778
And I'm like, I have no idea, as we're going upstairs to go to a party. To go party.
1103
01:17:54,358 --> 01:17:57,318
So, so then there's that, you know what I mean?
1104
01:17:57,378 --> 01:18:02,698
It's like, it's a celebration, but this weird thing has just happened,
1105
01:18:03,458 --> 01:18:06,038
but you're still supposed to go on like- And everyone's just going.
1106
01:18:06,538 --> 01:18:12,838
So it was, it was bizarre. It was bizarre. And then, you know, it's, it,
1107
01:18:13,965 --> 01:18:18,985
The next day, it's all over the news. And I remember the head writer said to
1108
01:18:18,985 --> 01:18:25,105
all of us as writers, he said, you know, the press is probably going to reach
1109
01:18:25,105 --> 01:18:26,505
out to you. This is before the slap.
1110
01:18:26,665 --> 01:18:31,645
He said, the press is probably going to reach out to you to get some sort of comment.
1111
01:18:31,905 --> 01:18:35,825
It's best to just say nothing because no matter what you say,
1112
01:18:36,065 --> 01:18:37,725
it's going to be misconstrued.
1113
01:18:37,965 --> 01:18:40,145
And that was before the slap.
1114
01:18:40,665 --> 01:18:45,705
Wow. So post-slap. That next day, I got calls from the Post,
1115
01:18:46,145 --> 01:18:52,125
the Times, like TMZ, you know, they wanted me to be on Dr. Phil.
1116
01:18:52,585 --> 01:18:55,605
Like, it was surreal.
1117
01:18:57,885 --> 01:19:04,205
It was surreal. Yeah, to say the least. Right. So, I hope that answers the question
1118
01:19:04,205 --> 01:19:05,465
what the Oscars was like.
1119
01:19:05,845 --> 01:19:08,565
Yep. so so what what an
1120
01:19:08,565 --> 01:19:11,425
experience for you i mean i can see how
1121
01:19:11,425 --> 01:19:14,665
it affects you just talking about it like you're kind of in a
1122
01:19:14,665 --> 01:19:17,385
sense robbed from this great what's supposed to be
1123
01:19:17,385 --> 01:19:20,265
like probably a peak moment in your
1124
01:19:20,265 --> 01:19:24,985
in your career to to write for the oscars and it gets totally overshadowed and
1125
01:19:24,985 --> 01:19:30,025
kind of taken away from this kind of selfish selfish moment from someone well
1126
01:19:30,025 --> 01:19:40,085
i will say this i think I think my friendship with Gary Shandling prepared me to handle this.
1127
01:19:41,745 --> 01:19:45,825
And what I mean by that is Gary was a host of the Oscars.
1128
01:19:46,105 --> 01:19:50,305
And when he was alive, we talked about all of that stuff.
1129
01:19:50,605 --> 01:19:54,585
Like I really felt, especially in the last two years of his life.
1130
01:19:55,880 --> 01:20:03,240
He mentored me in a way where he gave me tools to handle something this crazy.
1131
01:20:03,520 --> 01:20:06,540
And that doesn't mean that it didn't affect me.
1132
01:20:06,680 --> 01:20:15,260
Like I went through a bit of depression afterwards because that's a big high to get hyped for.
1133
01:20:15,420 --> 01:20:19,180
You know what I mean? It's like, man, I'm getting to do this amazing.
1134
01:20:19,420 --> 01:20:22,340
Thing and then it goes so far
1135
01:20:22,340 --> 01:20:25,080
south where it's known it's like it's
1136
01:20:25,080 --> 01:20:28,460
like being in a in a in the indie 500 and
1137
01:20:28,460 --> 01:20:31,360
then there's a car crash and it becomes about
1138
01:20:31,360 --> 01:20:35,140
the car crash you know what i mean it's like that that
1139
01:20:35,140 --> 01:20:38,440
you you don't want to be associated with
1140
01:20:38,440 --> 01:20:41,220
disasters yeah you know what i mean like some people
1141
01:20:41,220 --> 01:20:45,260
it's funny some people you talk to and they're like dude you're
1142
01:20:45,260 --> 01:20:48,660
gonna be a part of an oscars that
1143
01:20:48,660 --> 01:20:51,960
people are always going to talk about for that
1144
01:20:51,960 --> 01:20:55,520
reason but for that exactly right not because
1145
01:20:55,520 --> 01:20:58,320
the show was great which it was yeah you know
1146
01:20:58,320 --> 01:21:01,200
beyonce opened the show right people forget about that i
1147
01:21:01,200 --> 01:21:03,940
forgot you know what i'm saying i forget a lot of things but yes you're
1148
01:21:03,940 --> 01:21:06,860
right like beyonce opened the show yeah there was so many
1149
01:21:06,860 --> 01:21:09,740
great things that we should be talking
1150
01:21:09,740 --> 01:21:13,100
about and instead we're
1151
01:21:13,100 --> 01:21:15,980
talking about this were you able to talk to either
1152
01:21:15,980 --> 01:21:18,780
Chris or Will Smith after this I
1153
01:21:18,780 --> 01:21:25,060
haven't talked to Will no it's you know and I and I saw Chris in December when
1154
01:21:25,060 --> 01:21:29,880
I was here you know but I saw him on stage like we didn't talk backstage afterwards
1155
01:21:29,880 --> 01:21:35,580
so no I really haven't had any closure and it was interesting even watching
1156
01:21:35,580 --> 01:21:38,380
his special Selective Outrage.
1157
01:21:39,160 --> 01:21:43,420
I watched it by myself and I'm still raw about it.
1158
01:21:43,480 --> 01:21:46,700
You know, the Oscars are Sunday, you know what I mean?
1159
01:21:46,760 --> 01:21:50,100
And you know, when I see a commercial I'm triggered.
1160
01:21:50,460 --> 01:21:54,180
Yeah. You know what I mean? Because that was my experience.
1161
01:21:54,440 --> 01:21:57,220
It, you know, I was talking about this on stage the other night,
1162
01:21:57,300 --> 01:22:01,280
I said, you know, when you finish the Oscars, they give you some swag, right?
1163
01:22:01,360 --> 01:22:04,700
They give you a hat and they give you a sweatshirt.
1164
01:22:05,953 --> 01:22:09,933
You know, it's nice swag, but I haven't worn it yet.
1165
01:22:10,133 --> 01:22:14,353
And I don't, I can't, you know what I mean? It's like, I can't,
1166
01:22:14,353 --> 01:22:17,233
I can't embrace the experience.
1167
01:22:17,773 --> 01:22:22,893
I feel like it's a, it's known for something that I'm not proud of.
1168
01:22:23,013 --> 01:22:28,273
Right. Yeah. Because people are looking at you and not just you,
1169
01:22:28,373 --> 01:22:35,433
but the writers as not to why this happened, but it has to go on someone and it's not going on.
1170
01:22:35,433 --> 01:22:40,893
And you know, like even if, even if we're not under fire, just the simple fact
1171
01:22:40,893 --> 01:22:43,593
that jokes are on fire, you know what I mean?
1172
01:22:43,613 --> 01:22:48,213
Like that, that, that we're, we're criticizing the joke, you know what I mean?
1173
01:22:48,253 --> 01:22:52,513
Like jokes make people feel good. They lift the mood.
1174
01:22:52,793 --> 01:22:57,133
They let the air out of the room. You know, the Oscars are pretentious.
1175
01:22:57,213 --> 01:23:01,153
We're giving awards to people that have won the game of life.
1176
01:23:01,373 --> 01:23:03,113
Right. You know what I mean? Time and time again.
1177
01:23:03,333 --> 01:23:08,813
You know what I mean? So, you know, the Oscars are a big party that you're not invited to.
1178
01:23:09,193 --> 01:23:13,593
So jokes take the air out of the room. How can we not laugh at ourself?
1179
01:23:13,593 --> 01:23:17,373
We're sitting here richer than everyone else, more privileged than anyone else,
1180
01:23:17,393 --> 01:23:18,913
and we can't take a joke about ourself.
1181
01:23:19,033 --> 01:23:22,533
So that's another issue is like, don't attack the joke.
1182
01:23:22,833 --> 01:23:27,393
The joke is there to make it fun. Right. So that's another side of it.
1183
01:23:27,473 --> 01:23:31,113
Well, yeah. What a perspective, right? Because it's like, come on,
1184
01:23:31,133 --> 01:23:33,153
let's not take ourselves too seriously here.
1185
01:23:33,233 --> 01:23:36,533
Right. we're giving ourselves awards right for being awesome yeah
1186
01:23:36,533 --> 01:23:39,573
when you've already won the game yeah you are
1187
01:23:39,573 --> 01:23:42,213
you are a-list top tier you know what
1188
01:23:42,213 --> 01:23:44,993
i mean yeah hmm that is wow that's a
1189
01:23:44,993 --> 01:23:47,593
great perspective i didn't think about it like that but that it's such a great
1190
01:23:47,593 --> 01:23:51,973
perspective because it is like wow that's like you just maybe changed my thoughts
1191
01:23:51,973 --> 01:23:57,653
on some things wow yeah i'm you know i say this genuinely too here on mike but
1192
01:23:57,653 --> 01:24:02,193
i i'm i'm sorry for you that that is your experience of such a peak in your
1193
01:24:02,193 --> 01:24:04,073
life, especially with your daughter there.
1194
01:24:04,673 --> 01:24:08,273
And what it means to write as a writer for something that high caliber.
1195
01:24:08,753 --> 01:24:13,113
I am sorry that that was the experience that you had to go through just as a
1196
01:24:13,113 --> 01:24:15,953
human, but also knowing you and kind of becoming friends with you.
1197
01:24:16,313 --> 01:24:22,033
It really sucks to put it lightly. And you're such a kind person.
1198
01:24:23,769 --> 01:24:30,609
But you know what? I will say this. I thank Gary for all that mentorship and
1199
01:24:30,609 --> 01:24:35,149
time that he gave me before he passed, because without that,
1200
01:24:35,229 --> 01:24:38,009
I probably wouldn't have been able to process this.
1201
01:24:38,069 --> 01:24:42,769
And so that is a amazing gift on his part. Well, think about it like this.
1202
01:24:43,209 --> 01:24:49,169
The universe is always listening. And so you are able to get Gary Shandling
1203
01:24:49,169 --> 01:24:54,029
of all people that could have been your mentor as your mentor to give you the
1204
01:24:54,029 --> 01:24:58,909
tools to deal with something that's going to happen in 2000 years after he's
1205
01:24:58,909 --> 01:25:00,229
gone. Yeah, it's pretty amazing.
1206
01:25:00,369 --> 01:25:03,429
It's like, and it doesn't, and it doesn't escape me. Yeah.
1207
01:25:03,549 --> 01:25:08,389
You know what I mean? Like, I wish he was around now just so we could talk about it.
1208
01:25:08,569 --> 01:25:13,169
You know what I mean? Like, but, but I'm blessed in that sense.
1209
01:25:13,349 --> 01:25:17,609
Like the last two things that Gary did on camera, he did comedians in cars with
1210
01:25:17,609 --> 01:25:21,069
Jerry Seinfeld, which is, he asked me to help him get ready for that.
1211
01:25:21,189 --> 01:25:25,809
So, and then he did my documentary dying laughing that I produced.
1212
01:25:26,109 --> 01:25:30,989
So the last two times that he appeared on camera, I was directly involved in,
1213
01:25:31,049 --> 01:25:33,169
and it's something that I'm extremely proud of.
1214
01:25:33,169 --> 01:25:41,309
And it's a testament to our friendship his mentorship towards me and my commitment
1215
01:25:41,309 --> 01:25:46,389
to honor those gifts that he gave me wow man your mentor sounds way better than mine.
1216
01:25:49,429 --> 01:25:57,589
Hey hey you're sitting here with suly right i'm not that bad so hey he only
1217
01:25:57,589 --> 01:26:02,089
knows the surface level All right, all right, let's take it easy.
1218
01:26:02,169 --> 01:26:04,189
Right, right, come on, come on.
1219
01:26:04,369 --> 01:26:08,449
So now, folks are gonna hear this, it's already gonna have happened,
1220
01:26:08,529 --> 01:26:13,469
but you're also here in the Bay Area, not just to sit with us two yahoos,
1221
01:26:13,469 --> 01:26:17,869
but you're doing your work, you're performing at Stanford.
1222
01:26:19,340 --> 01:26:24,220
I'm doing two shows at Stanford and then I'm also speaking to the students during the day.
1223
01:26:24,300 --> 01:26:28,460
Just, you know, some of the things that we've talked about on this podcast and
1224
01:26:28,460 --> 01:26:34,340
giving them just a little backstory of what my trajectory has been in this business.
1225
01:26:34,480 --> 01:26:38,440
Because I went to Cupertino High School. I'm from Northern California.
1226
01:26:38,840 --> 01:26:44,960
You know, I was a skinny kid with a dream of, you know, making something happen in Hollywood.
1227
01:26:45,140 --> 01:26:48,040
And, you know, I made some shit happen.
1228
01:26:48,040 --> 01:26:51,100
You made it happen i made some shit happen i did some things you know
1229
01:26:51,100 --> 01:26:54,240
and so if i can just like
1230
01:26:54,240 --> 01:26:57,220
gary mentored me if i can help some
1231
01:26:57,220 --> 01:27:00,460
young ambitious minds choose this
1232
01:27:00,460 --> 01:27:06,080
path you know you got to pay it forward right no that's i mean that's that's
1233
01:27:06,080 --> 01:27:09,100
again that's the car that's good karma that's what it's about yeah right that's
1234
01:27:09,100 --> 01:27:13,000
what it's about i mean jerry's gary jerry gary serling did that for you you're
1235
01:27:13,000 --> 01:27:16,940
you maybe you're doing that for the next up-and-coming person yes and you're
1236
01:27:16,940 --> 01:27:19,520
also doing a lot of touring with Sean Wayans.
1237
01:27:19,580 --> 01:27:21,980
Yeah, Sean Wayans and I are touring this year.
1238
01:27:22,480 --> 01:27:27,040
We're doing some great dates all around the country. I'm excited.
1239
01:27:27,160 --> 01:27:30,260
We're doing Hawaii in May. Nice. Oh, yeah.
1240
01:27:31,280 --> 01:27:35,060
Crazy legs might take your shirt off. Oh, I hope so. Let's go.
1241
01:27:35,180 --> 01:27:37,120
I want to see crazy legs in the luau.
1242
01:27:37,320 --> 01:27:40,740
Yeah. If you're going to Hawaii, you better wear a Roosevelt Hawaiian shirt.
1243
01:27:40,900 --> 01:27:44,340
You know what? The good people at Roosevelt better make me a shirt.
1244
01:27:44,420 --> 01:27:48,840
Oh, man, a crazy legs shirt? Can we get a Crazy Legs Hawaiian shirt, Roosevelt?
1245
01:27:49,220 --> 01:27:51,960
Oh, Roosevelt. I'm going to hit you up. Let's go. Okay, let's do this.
1246
01:27:52,260 --> 01:27:54,520
We need this. Boys medium.
1247
01:27:56,960 --> 01:28:00,740
Boys medium indeed. They can afford that. That's not much cloth, right? Right.
1248
01:28:02,911 --> 01:28:07,891
And you're also doing a tour, correct me however you want to call it,
1249
01:28:08,071 --> 01:28:11,851
like a group of you and other comedians called Crazy Legs and Friends.
1250
01:28:12,091 --> 01:28:17,471
Yeah, you know, I did a show not too long ago with some friends of mine that are great comics.
1251
01:28:17,671 --> 01:28:22,351
And I just did it under the banner of Suli McCullough, Crazy Legs and Friends.
1252
01:28:22,551 --> 01:28:25,451
Because I like the energy of the Crazy Legs character.
1253
01:28:26,031 --> 01:28:29,971
And I think that that just sets the vibe for coming to see a good show.
1254
01:28:29,971 --> 01:28:32,611
Yeah so it's just great comics that i
1255
01:28:32,611 --> 01:28:35,751
like working with and we're going to do some some spot
1256
01:28:35,751 --> 01:28:42,051
tour dates in different places nice now speaking of crazy legs yes let's talk
1257
01:28:42,051 --> 01:28:46,511
about one other thing you know circling back to how we met when you came into
1258
01:28:46,511 --> 01:28:51,351
the shop yeah and and picked up the south central hat with loke dog on it yeah
1259
01:28:51,351 --> 01:28:55,371
we loke dog and his super soaker that's right that's right,
1260
01:28:56,071 --> 01:28:59,211
We have been able to create an alternate version.
1261
01:28:59,371 --> 01:29:02,011
Yes. We're doing an exclusive.
1262
01:29:02,491 --> 01:29:07,331
Exclusive. A special Crazy Legs South Central hat.
1263
01:29:07,551 --> 01:29:11,751
That's right. A Bart Bridge hat. A Bart Bridge exclusive. That's right.
1264
01:29:12,131 --> 01:29:13,851
You see what I'm saying? Yes.
1265
01:29:14,691 --> 01:29:20,151
That I'm really excited about. Like, you know, like we instantly became friends
1266
01:29:20,151 --> 01:29:24,651
and I was really excited to do this podcast and you know.
1267
01:29:25,498 --> 01:29:30,138
I love the South Central hat with Lokedog so much that it just got my little
1268
01:29:30,138 --> 01:29:31,358
producer brain spinning.
1269
01:29:31,538 --> 01:29:36,178
And I was like, can we do a Crazy Legs version? And they said, absolutely.
1270
01:29:36,638 --> 01:29:43,518
And so we let it germinate and coagulate and marinate.
1271
01:29:44,038 --> 01:29:47,378
And now we got some Crazy Legs.
1272
01:29:48,578 --> 01:29:51,078
All the Nates. We got the Nates.
1273
01:29:52,478 --> 01:29:55,618
Yeah, I got a Nate. and as
1274
01:29:55,618 --> 01:29:58,358
an artist let me give a shout out can we
1275
01:29:58,358 --> 01:30:03,278
mention the artist so you already had crazy leg shirts yeah and i kind of used
1276
01:30:03,278 --> 01:30:07,638
that artwork and sort of redrew it yeah to make it work with embroidery in the
1277
01:30:07,638 --> 01:30:12,538
small space my uh my friend who's an artist ritzy p did my crazy legs t-shirts
1278
01:30:12,538 --> 01:30:18,038
which i sell after my shows with sean and what i wanted to do with that is just make some
1279
01:30:18,118 --> 01:30:22,158
merchandise specifically for Crazy Legs fans just to say, hey,
1280
01:30:22,238 --> 01:30:24,118
you know what? I appreciate the support.
1281
01:30:24,318 --> 01:30:29,998
I got you. So we used that image as a template to make the Bart Bridge hat.
1282
01:30:30,298 --> 01:30:35,758
So I guess we're going to have it available online and do a little limited run.
1283
01:30:36,018 --> 01:30:44,838
And if you need a Crazy Legs hat in your life, Bart Bridge is the place to go. Yeah. Yeah.
1284
01:30:45,198 --> 01:30:48,478
Or maybe you'll have some at your merch table. Oh yeah. I'm going to have some,
1285
01:30:48,538 --> 01:30:52,978
you know, when I go tour and stuff, but I also want people to go to your website
1286
01:30:52,978 --> 01:30:57,818
and get the hats that way. Yeah. Dope. And these hats are incredible.
1287
01:30:58,018 --> 01:31:02,158
They are like you, like, like today you showed me the hats in person.
1288
01:31:02,658 --> 01:31:08,158
And even though the Oscars was messed up, the hats almost make up for it.
1289
01:31:08,961 --> 01:31:11,961
I mean, I'm glad that there's a balance. Yes, yes, yes.
1290
01:31:13,221 --> 01:31:17,301
It's not all bad, y'all. There's light at the end of the tunnel. We got crazy legs hats.
1291
01:31:17,641 --> 01:31:22,741
Yes. So you'll be able to go to bartbridge.com and see those soon.
1292
01:31:22,921 --> 01:31:28,221
And one last thing I want to mention before we wrap is you and Sean,
1293
01:31:28,341 --> 01:31:33,381
I saw you guys last December at the Cobbs, which you guys are great together.
1294
01:31:33,541 --> 01:31:37,801
A nice yin and yang almost of different types of comedy.
1295
01:31:38,021 --> 01:31:42,581
Sure. I, Sean was my first comedy show I ever saw in person.
1296
01:31:42,681 --> 01:31:46,981
He's my first, like going out to a comedy club. It was the punchline in Sacramento.
1297
01:31:47,141 --> 01:31:49,761
Yes. At the, at the, how about Arden fair?
1298
01:31:50,321 --> 01:31:55,561
Right. Next to the, I know, I know I've done many spots there.
1299
01:31:56,661 --> 01:32:01,401
Yeah. And I think this was 2001 or two and,
1300
01:32:01,501 --> 01:32:04,861
and Sean comes out after the two people open
1301
01:32:04,861 --> 01:32:07,981
for him and the music's blasting and
1302
01:32:07,981 --> 01:32:11,021
he comes out with his leather jacket and he's just such a vibe and
1303
01:32:11,021 --> 01:32:13,741
yeah i'm like whoa this is sean wayans like it's in
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01:32:13,741 --> 01:32:16,761
person celebrity and and
1305
01:32:16,761 --> 01:32:20,841
he goes up there and he clowns sacramento like his
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01:32:20,841 --> 01:32:24,021
opening well because sacra like at the sacramento punchline for
1307
01:32:24,021 --> 01:32:27,141
people that don't know you have the capitol building as
1308
01:32:27,141 --> 01:32:29,941
the backdrop on stage right and and so you
1309
01:32:29,941 --> 01:32:32,801
can't ignore it it's big it's big and there's
1310
01:32:32,801 --> 01:32:36,361
and there's a couple like palm trees and tree and other trees and like a couple
1311
01:32:36,361 --> 01:32:40,941
little buildings and let's be honest and this was in you know 20 years ago yeah
1312
01:32:40,941 --> 01:32:45,401
right there's not a lot to do there yeah at this time yeah so he was making
1313
01:32:45,401 --> 01:32:51,661
note of that yeah let me ask you this and i took offense to that then but now i understand sure but.
1314
01:32:52,532 --> 01:32:58,252
A comic has to work with what he's got. Yeah. Yeah. When you're in a town like
1315
01:32:58,252 --> 01:33:01,372
that, when there's not a lot to do, do you guys just, is that better that you
1316
01:33:01,372 --> 01:33:04,112
just sit in the room and kind of stare at the wall at the hotel?
1317
01:33:04,132 --> 01:33:09,892
You know what's interesting is like our touring schedule is we usually fly out
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01:33:09,892 --> 01:33:14,952
on a Thursday and get in and then, you know, maybe we'll catch a quick dinner.
1319
01:33:15,292 --> 01:33:19,092
And then, you know, we got pressed during the day on Friday and then two shows
1320
01:33:19,092 --> 01:33:22,372
Friday, two shows, Saturday, first flight out Sunday.
1321
01:33:22,512 --> 01:33:25,532
So Saturday night bleeds into Sunday morning.
1322
01:33:25,852 --> 01:33:32,492
So I like to, on that Friday after press and stuff, get out a little bit just
1323
01:33:32,492 --> 01:33:34,972
so I can feel the vibe of wherever I'm at.
1324
01:33:35,292 --> 01:33:41,392
But if the place isn't vibey, then it's easy to stay in the hotel.
1325
01:33:41,852 --> 01:33:46,852
But I think it makes for a better show if you know what the city's about.
1326
01:33:46,992 --> 01:33:49,832
Sure. and you have like a little you know
1327
01:33:49,832 --> 01:33:52,612
like you don't have a lot of time but you do want
1328
01:33:52,612 --> 01:33:55,432
to feel like okay i know what this place is about and you connect with
1329
01:33:55,432 --> 01:33:59,692
the crowd yes exactly and if there's nothing there then you can make fun of
1330
01:33:59,692 --> 01:34:02,772
it and then you get to make fun of it and that people know because there's nothing
1331
01:34:02,772 --> 01:34:07,752
but i at least try i at least try i at least try and go do something or you
1332
01:34:07,752 --> 01:34:12,732
know just just you know sometimes i'll ask people on stage like yo i'm here
1333
01:34:12,732 --> 01:34:14,672
for two days what What should I do while I'm here?
1334
01:34:14,832 --> 01:34:18,152
And that's how you know if a city's like what they care about.
1335
01:34:18,272 --> 01:34:19,512
And they say, go to the Galleria.
1336
01:34:19,672 --> 01:34:22,852
You're like, oh, God. Yeah. Sometimes they're like, you're doing it.
1337
01:34:24,072 --> 01:34:25,252
You're doing it.
1338
01:34:26,892 --> 01:34:29,952
That's you. Come have a seat. You're doing it.
1339
01:34:31,412 --> 01:34:35,372
I'm curious. Have you ever done any shows in Stockton? It's been a while.
1340
01:34:35,552 --> 01:34:39,752
It's probably been a while. Man, I feel like you and Sean would do so well at
1341
01:34:39,752 --> 01:34:42,012
Stockton, California. Okay. That's my hometown.
1342
01:34:42,412 --> 01:34:45,072
That's my hometown. We need to make it happen. Yeah, yeah. The Bob Hope,
1343
01:34:45,172 --> 01:34:48,392
those two guys. Just be sure you get out alive.
1344
01:34:49,392 --> 01:34:52,972
Oh, Stockton's no joke, my friend. Oh, yeah? Stockton's real like that?
1345
01:34:52,992 --> 01:34:55,812
It's real. It's probably more real than Oakland sometimes. Uh-oh.
1346
01:34:56,512 --> 01:34:59,012
All right. But no flat tires, though. No flat tires. All right.
1347
01:34:59,012 --> 01:35:00,792
Well, maybe Stockton won't happen.
1348
01:35:02,592 --> 01:35:06,612
Suli, it's been an honor, a pleasure. You're great.
1349
01:35:06,692 --> 01:35:11,752
I love your openness, and your comedy is amazing, and just getting to know more
1350
01:35:11,752 --> 01:35:13,712
about you. and I love comedians.
1351
01:35:14,723 --> 01:35:17,383
Because I love comedy, but I also love the way you all tell stories.
1352
01:35:17,563 --> 01:35:20,763
You're great storytellers and that's part of your craft and what you do.
1353
01:35:21,003 --> 01:35:25,883
And you did it here on the show with us and it was just great to see it happen live.
1354
01:35:26,243 --> 01:35:31,083
You know, almost like, we almost got our exclusive private comedy show with
1355
01:35:31,083 --> 01:35:34,003
Suli. Yeah, this was a thing.
1356
01:35:34,183 --> 01:35:36,723
We did a thing. We did a thing. We did a thing.
1357
01:35:37,203 --> 01:35:42,703
This has been great. I've had a great time. Like, I feel like this is how,
1358
01:35:42,743 --> 01:35:47,283
you know, You want to connect with other artists and change agents.
1359
01:35:47,463 --> 01:35:51,903
You know what I mean? And when you can make something that feels good,
1360
01:35:52,263 --> 01:35:53,883
you know you're doing it right. Yeah.
1361
01:35:54,363 --> 01:35:58,883
Where can our audience find you, where you're touring, where your friends are?
1362
01:35:59,043 --> 01:36:04,363
You can find me at, I'm on Instagram at Suli McCullough, my real name,
1363
01:36:04,523 --> 01:36:11,803
S-U-L-I-M-C-C-U-L-L-O-U-G-H. H on Twitter and Facebook.
1364
01:36:12,443 --> 01:36:17,363
And I'm not on Tik TOK. Me neither. I'm not on Tik TOK and I'm not on a dating
1365
01:36:17,363 --> 01:36:18,663
site. Are you on only fans?
1366
01:36:19,163 --> 01:36:23,983
Soon. Oh my God. A crazy legs. Only fans. That'd be funny. That would be fun.
1367
01:36:24,783 --> 01:36:28,143
No pants. No pants. No pants. Just legs.
1368
01:36:28,663 --> 01:36:33,263
Hey, you get that whole thing set up at a Roosevelt's. No pants, you know? Right.
1369
01:36:34,483 --> 01:36:38,083
We got to work on that. We got to work on the Roosevelt's Hawaiian shirt.
1370
01:36:38,083 --> 01:36:40,903
For my Hawaii dates. Yeah, I love that. I love that. Yeah.
1371
01:36:41,203 --> 01:36:47,203
Yeah. So we will look forward to seeing you tomorrow night at Stanford and other
1372
01:36:47,203 --> 01:36:50,503
people will probably look forward to be seeing you in Hawaii.
1373
01:36:50,663 --> 01:36:53,583
Yeah, or tour dates across the country.
1374
01:36:53,783 --> 01:36:56,103
Sean and I are doing dates for the rest of this year.
1375
01:36:56,623 --> 01:37:00,223
So before we go. Okay. I have something. I was going to do a more involved game.
1376
01:37:00,423 --> 01:37:01,903
Yes. We're going to make it very quick. Okay.
1377
01:37:02,303 --> 01:37:04,543
Because we've been talking for a great time and it's been amazing.
1378
01:37:04,623 --> 01:37:07,843
It really has. And to kind of just to say my thing.
1379
01:37:08,383 --> 01:37:11,323
It's great to have you here more than you can ever imagine
1380
01:37:11,323 --> 01:37:14,803
because you know and i've told you this off mike before before
1381
01:37:14,803 --> 01:37:18,443
this your interaction happened with him i haven't wanted to get you on the show
1382
01:37:18,443 --> 01:37:22,123
personally and i was trying to find a way how i could write to you and you know
1383
01:37:22,123 --> 01:37:25,383
maybe through instagram but i know how that can be yeah and the fact that this
1384
01:37:25,383 --> 01:37:29,163
is now happening and it's fruition and it's here from the bottom of my heart
1385
01:37:29,163 --> 01:37:31,783
just thank you for taking the time and being here because yeah i've been a fan
1386
01:37:31,783 --> 01:37:34,663
of your stuff for a very long time your writing work everything and And,
1387
01:37:34,663 --> 01:37:36,923
you know, and I, you know, mouse meant a lot to me too.
1388
01:37:37,123 --> 01:37:41,343
And I guess I told you with, you know, with W medicine meant a lot to me too.
1389
01:37:41,663 --> 01:37:44,803
But just your writing skills, because again, you write so smart,
1390
01:37:44,883 --> 01:37:45,703
you write so efficiently.
1391
01:37:46,103 --> 01:37:48,163
And that's something that I think needs to be celebrated more often.
1392
01:37:48,303 --> 01:37:51,183
And so thank you so much for coming here. I appreciate that. Yeah.
1393
01:37:52,569 --> 01:37:56,469
Quick game. Quick game. Quick game. So I don't know if you listened to me or
1394
01:37:56,469 --> 01:38:00,309
not, and I'm actually going to surprise him a little bit, but me and Mike want to be comedians.
1395
01:38:00,869 --> 01:38:04,069
Oh, here we go. Do we? I don't know.
1396
01:38:05,009 --> 01:38:09,669
Here we go. It sounds a little hard. Yeah. So what we're going to do is a very quick game.
1397
01:38:09,729 --> 01:38:11,549
So one of my favorite things in the world, and he knows this,
1398
01:38:11,669 --> 01:38:15,489
when I get really drunk, I love to tell great, great dad jokes.
1399
01:38:15,909 --> 01:38:19,269
I love dad jokes. You know, I'm Uncle Dad, right? I got to do Uncle Dad jokes.
1400
01:38:19,269 --> 01:38:20,589
Uncle Dad got to do dad jokes.
1401
01:38:20,709 --> 01:38:24,969
Exactly. So each of us, I don't know if he has one ready I don't think he does,
1402
01:38:25,589 --> 01:38:28,429
It's the only thing I do with the mic Because I surprise him with things And
1403
01:38:28,429 --> 01:38:30,569
this is happening right now Surprise!
1404
01:38:33,949 --> 01:38:37,949
So we cannot end the show without this So we're going to each give you a joke
1405
01:38:37,949 --> 01:38:41,589
And you need to pick your favorite And I get to decide Oh nice,
1406
01:38:41,669 --> 01:38:47,629
this is like the last comic standing Dad joke edition So Mike, are you ready?
1407
01:38:49,429 --> 01:38:52,469
You have to be all right i'll
1408
01:38:52,469 --> 01:38:55,929
go first and then you can go okay here we go are you
1409
01:38:55,929 --> 01:38:58,549
ready sir yeah i'm ready my first joke or my
1410
01:38:58,549 --> 01:39:01,949
only joke i should say is why did the picture go
1411
01:39:01,949 --> 01:39:09,389
to jail why did the picture go to jail i don't know because it was framed because
1412
01:39:09,389 --> 01:39:17,429
he was framed okay all right you see what he did there you see what uncle dad
1413
01:39:17,429 --> 01:39:20,369
did right there and there's a there's an alternate Oh, please,
1414
01:39:20,509 --> 01:39:21,829
I need to hear the alternate version.
1415
01:39:21,889 --> 01:39:24,089
You're on a roll. Why did the picture go to jail?
1416
01:39:24,489 --> 01:39:30,169
Why did the picture go to jail? Because it was captured. Because it was captured, okay?
1417
01:39:31,169 --> 01:39:37,309
I think I like frame better. But captured is a good second beat. Yeah. Your turn.
1418
01:39:38,229 --> 01:39:43,509
Why did the hen cross the road? Now, why did the hen cross the road?
1419
01:39:43,809 --> 01:39:45,769
To see what the hell the chicken was doing.
1420
01:39:47,389 --> 01:39:52,449
That's pretty good, I like that one. I think I'm going to go with Mike. Mike wins the dad joke.
1421
01:39:53,369 --> 01:39:56,249
He's not even Uncle Dad. Yeah, you're not even Uncle Dad.
1422
01:39:57,429 --> 01:40:01,029
Yeah, but the way you told it, you just let it slide. You threw it like it was
1423
01:40:01,029 --> 01:40:04,589
a slider. So part of it is in the presentation.
1424
01:40:05,189 --> 01:40:07,929
Thank you. Well, thank you for picking his. That's cool. You can leave now.
1425
01:40:10,229 --> 01:40:15,369
Happy birthday, Uncle Dad. But before we go, do you have one dad joke you can tell us?
1426
01:40:16,889 --> 01:40:23,249
Do i have a dad joke i am a dad so i have are you an uncle too or no no yeah
1427
01:40:23,249 --> 01:40:26,869
i am an uncle oh there you go so you're an uncle dad i am an uncle dad but i
1428
01:40:26,869 --> 01:40:29,069
don't know if i have any like dad dad jokes,
1429
01:40:30,129 --> 01:40:35,329
so i don't think i have one all right i got one more for you okay that's just
1430
01:40:35,329 --> 01:40:38,609
a setup for you to get your guts off. I see how you work.
1431
01:40:40,889 --> 01:40:48,449
Why does a mermaid wear a seashell bra? Why does a mermaid wear a seashell bra?
1432
01:40:49,626 --> 01:40:53,106
Don't know because she outgrew her b-shells because she
1433
01:40:53,106 --> 01:40:58,686
outgrew her b-shells wow that
1434
01:40:58,686 --> 01:41:01,526
just i'm offended i want to be clear that's not my joke i
1435
01:41:01,526 --> 01:41:04,566
actually that's great no no you should claim that no you should definitely
1436
01:41:04,566 --> 01:41:07,306
i definitely am not because it's from one of my favorite people in
1437
01:41:07,306 --> 01:41:11,266
the world uh joe bob briggs okay or if you're aware of him but i'm not he is
1438
01:41:11,266 --> 01:41:15,126
one of the greatest horror hosts in the world and he had that joke and that's
1439
01:41:15,126 --> 01:41:19,586
one of my favorite jokes to tell all right well all right no you tell that joke
1440
01:41:19,586 --> 01:41:23,586
joe bob riggs i love you yeah but yes okay so you don't you don't have any dad
1441
01:41:23,586 --> 01:41:26,186
jokes i don't think i have any i can't follow that joke.
1442
01:41:27,066 --> 01:41:30,166
Hey nobody can yeah yeah we'd have to pay you all
1443
01:41:30,166 --> 01:41:34,846
right well you know what man thank you so much seriously from the bottom of
1444
01:41:34,846 --> 01:41:38,046
my heart i mean i can tell the energy in this room has been magical if i could
1445
01:41:38,046 --> 01:41:41,826
just bottle this up that'd be incredible just thank you seriously like of course
1446
01:41:41,826 --> 01:41:45,026
it's a dream come true to have you i mean I have been a fan of yours for so
1447
01:41:45,026 --> 01:41:48,386
long and then to have you here is just... One of the reasons why I love doing this job.
1448
01:41:48,546 --> 01:41:51,826
Not only do I get to talk to people I love, but I get to do it with my best friends in the world.
1449
01:41:52,046 --> 01:41:54,406
So thank you so much. I want you to cry right now.
1450
01:41:54,646 --> 01:41:57,306
I see it on the edge of what's happening.
1451
01:41:57,826 --> 01:42:01,666
It's great radio. So let's let it happen. I'm just trying to be sweet,
1452
01:42:01,746 --> 01:42:05,506
man. And I appreciate it. This has been really fun. I've enjoyed it.
1453
01:42:05,626 --> 01:42:09,986
I appreciate it wholeheartedly. But I will say this. This is how I'll end the show.
1454
01:42:10,786 --> 01:42:15,106
Gary Shandling is probably a much better mentor than mine. All right, everybody. Wow.
1455
01:42:15,466 --> 01:42:20,026
See what he did? He gave you a little cut. As I do, right? Suck the knife right in.
1456
01:42:20,186 --> 01:42:23,526
Right. But as always, thank you again. And for everybody listening,
1457
01:42:23,686 --> 01:42:25,386
really quickly, can you do me a favor?
1458
01:42:25,626 --> 01:42:30,526
What's that? Can you tell our listeners right now that they need to rate and
1459
01:42:30,526 --> 01:42:31,606
subscribe to our podcast?
1460
01:42:32,006 --> 01:42:36,486
If you guys don't rate and subscribe to this podcast, you're crazy.
1461
01:42:37,126 --> 01:42:39,206
And I'm crazy laid, okay?
1462
01:42:39,966 --> 01:42:42,546
So rate and subscribe. All right, y'all.
1463
01:42:44,086 --> 01:42:47,786
All right, everybody. We're not uncles. We're not dads. But we'll see you all next week.
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01:42:45,040 --> 01:42:54,320
Music.
