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Music.
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Hello everybody and welcome to this special Halloween season.
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As you guys all know, I love Halloween so much. I try to do something every
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year and unfortunately Mike can't be involved in all that stuff.
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So I came to the next best friend I have, the one and only, you've heard him in a lot of episodes.
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Let's give it up everybody for my co-host on this special show,
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Chris Wisnia. What's up, man? Hey, Uncle Dad.
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I'm sure flattered to be the second best choice here.
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Well, it's always Mike first, right? Yeah, so for those who don't know or are
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new to the show, every Halloween season, I do something called Uncle Dadoween.
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Now, Uncle Dadoween is a special project that I try my best to do 31 days of
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content. Well, I realize that's very hard to do in short notices.
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So I'm working on a new concept and I want to do it with my best friend,
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the one and only Chris Wozniak, because I love his insight.
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People love him being on the show. And what we're going to do here is a little,
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something a little unique, I would say. I don't know. What do you think, Chris?
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I am super excited for this.
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And he really means that this time.
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So, before we dive into your thoughts on what we're about to do and whatnot,
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I just want, for people who haven't heard you before, can you introduce yourself
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and tell them what you do?
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My name's Chris Wisnia, as you've heard, and I draw and write comic books. Okay.
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I think that's everything you need to know about me, right?
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Well, what's the big one you got out right now? My most recent book is Doris
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Danger, Giant Monsters Amok, which came out with Fantagraphics.
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And it's a parody and homage of old 1950s and 1960s giant monster in underpants comics.
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I love that. And that kind of brings us to here in some respects, right? Right.
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Like, you know, that vintage era of of entertainment, I guess. Right.
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And and you know, I'm only wearing underpants.
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Don't tell them, you know, Kristen, I know you're a fan of the vintage world, if you will.
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The classic golden era of cinema and golden era of comics, all that.
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So I'm curious, you know, and radio and radio and radio.
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Yes radio right and and we'll get
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to that but i want to ask you one interesting question here
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because it's kind of a serious question how important do you
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think entertainment was during that golden era of cinema
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radio and comics boy i
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i don't know for other people i i i think the the entertainment industry was
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was different back then you know no one had phones to just instantaneously stream
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whatever they delighted in.
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It was a more rare treat.
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You had to go out to experience it. You had to pay whatever it was,
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10 cents or something, to go see a movie.
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The television started coming in to houses at some point. And before that,
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that the radio was coming in.
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And so I think everybody was kind of,
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receiving the same stories. And I think everybody, you know,
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nowadays, everyone can have their interest in this little thing or that little thing.
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And a lot of people around them might not even be aware of those little things.
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Whereas back then, everybody tuned in to this radio show on Thursday night.
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And so there's a little bit more of a shared communal experience of pop culture,
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right yeah yeah i love that you say that
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because i i feel like that was a big part because radio was free
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right anybody could as long as you had a radio anybody could
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do and radios were pretty affordable back then and you know and i bring all
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this up because we're specifically doing a show based upon old-timey radio now
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for those who know you know we usually do these halloween themed stuff where
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it's horror related this isn't necessarily horror related it's adjacent but but not horror related.
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What we're going to be doing for a total of four episodes, no,
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five episodes, sorry, me and my man here, Chris Winsdia, are going to listen
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to original programming from 1947 through 1950.
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Now, this programming is called the Five Mysteries Program, or better known
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as the Five Minute Mysteries Program.
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Basically, these are literally five minute episodes where you'll be able to
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listen and get a whole thriller in five minutes. And by the end of it,
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you have to guess who did it.
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Well, me and Mr. Chris Wisnia are going to figure out who did it together.
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So what we're going to do here is we're going to play the radio show,
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and I'll pause it here and there.
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And when I pause it, me and, excuse me, Chris Wisnia will talk about our thoughts at the moment.
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I think that's kind of what we're thinking of how the show is going to work.
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What do you think, Chris?
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I'm willing to give it a try. Yeah, let's see where it goes.
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I so before go ahead i
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was just going to say i i'm concerned about trying
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to solve mysteries with you because i have
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a a not great
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attention span and i i find
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if i have to focus on something to find clues
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i i might not be a very good
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help unless we rewind over and
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over we listen to this right it's on a tape and we can rewind
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it yeah yeah maybe listen to the same sentence three or four times sometimes
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until i focus my attention yeah i love it though you're the common man you're
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the average person listening i love it but before we start chris what is your.
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I know you have a very soft spot for film noir and all that great stuff.
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Film noir is also very heavily influenced in radio shows.
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So I'm curious, what is your relations with radio shows? Do you like them?
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How do you listen to them? That kind of stuff.
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Yeah, I do listen to them. I find them fascinating.
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When you were saying that this show came out in 47, I was thinking,
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okay, so where were we in film and television at home?
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And I guess television had been developed maybe the 20s or something,
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but it kind of became popularized in the 50s.
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So this show was maybe a hair before everybody had televisions,
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but at a time when some people did.
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And yeah, the radio show I find absolutely fascinating because you are given
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a story as if you're being read a novel or whatever your reading choice is.
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But it's read by actors, so it's kind of acted out, but you can't see the actors.
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And so descriptors need to be forced into the telling of the story.
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So you might have the sounds of footsteps and a door opening,
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or you might hear screaming and thumping around. And as a listener going,
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well, what's happening?
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I can't see. Is someone fighting someone?
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And the creative ways that radio came up with trying to pass a story on only through sound.
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Movies and television, you've got sound and picture.
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Comic books you only have picture you
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you have words so you can you can kind
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of put that in of your own but you're
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you're coming up with what do these sounds sound
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like what do these voices sound like what is the the
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speed and cadence and delivery of the dialogue and
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and so it's kind of a flip side of comics in
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that way where a lot of the
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enjoyment comes from what you're able
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to sum up in in your own head and i i just
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find that fascinating and and
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very much a lost art form because no one that
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i know of nowadays listens you know
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you listen to audiobooks i guess but but those you
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know say you know blah blah blah john said you
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know that's not built into a radio show so
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i i'm looking forward to listening to these yeah
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it's exciting and i wanted to kind of point it out really fast some of
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the cast members that were a part of this series i don't know if you
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know these names but i'm gonna throw them out there uh were jason beck stats
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cotsworth michael fitzmaurice timmy hyler abby lewis frank lovejoy and ian mccallister
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were all part of this series do any of those names ring a bell i i don't recognize
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any of those there's one that i think as comic book fans we should know and
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that's jason beck because he was the the narrator for
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the Adventures of Superman radio show.
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Aha. Okay. Yeah.
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And I'm sure back then they all kind of did all the things, right?
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Because how many radio people were there, right?
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Right. Well, we'll dive in more into the other actors and actresses a little bit later on.
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But let's go ahead and start it off. I'm going to pause it here and there.
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When I pause it, that's when you and I will talk about something.
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And just so everybody knows, we have not listened to this. I have not listened to this before.
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He has not listened to this before. all I do is I grab the audio to set it up
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for recording but I don't listen to it so we're all going to be learning and
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trying to figure out this mystery together so of course let's celebrate week
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one of Halloween with Chris Wisnia's and Uncle Dad's Old Timey Radio,
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another five minute mystery.
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Thank you.
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Go ahead, sir. I'm smiling so big listening to this. And I want to take a bet.
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How long do you think this opening organ tune is going to run?
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Well, I can see the audio wavelength.
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So how about the audience? How long do you guys think it'll be?
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I'm going to guess a minute and a half.
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I'm going to guess they're filling time here.
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Well, what's funny is I'm actually glad you brought that up,
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Chris, because I actually have information about this. Oh, boy.
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So the organ, the organ, let's talk about that real fast.
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The organ was probably one of the most important things of old-timey radio,
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and I would even argue cinema, right?
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That was such a huge thing, sports even, right?
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That was such a big part. But specifically radio, there was the goat of this,
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if you will, the greatest of all time, and that is Rosa, I think it's pronounced
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Rosa Rio. Do you know that name? No.
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So Rosa Rio had been doing this from 1933 all the way until 2010.
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And what were some of his gigs? Do you know? Oh, so it's a female.
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So her, she is, yes, she did motion pictures.
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So some of the motion pictures she did was one of the greatest films of all
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time, The Jazz Singer. Remember that?
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Yeah, The Jazz Singer. She also did the Phantom of the Opera film,
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the Hunchback of Notre Dame, and she did the original Birth of a Nation.
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I was going to say, you know, in Oregon, your first thought is, oh, it's church music.
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But then your second thought is, oh, it's like gothic horror music.
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So how great that she was part of all these classics.
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Oh, totally. Totally. And for those who haven't seen the original silent film,
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The Birth of a Nation, that is a one wild movie to watch. I don't know if you've seen that, Chris.
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I'm sure you have. But it's a wild movie for the time. Would you agree with that?
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For any time. Just the story. Yeah, true.
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100%. I don't want to give anything away about it because people should check
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it out. But they did reboot it, I believe, or remake it or whatever.
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I haven't seen that. Have you seen the remake? I wasn't aware of one.
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Yeah, they actually came out not that long ago, but probably not as good.
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But anyways, Rosa Rio also went on to do a bunch of radio shows.
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She did Bob and Ray, Ethel and Albert, Lorenzo Jones, My True Story.
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And one of my favorites, and I'm sure you love this too, Chris,
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is The Shadow. She did all the music for The Shadow.
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I was wondering too, I was actually recently listening to the radio show The Avenger.
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And yes it had seriously it was like a three minute organ intro and i i'm looking
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at my watch going are you kidding me this is still going and uh yeah just the passage of time,
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was experienced no differently back then
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you know i i imagine people were listening to this organ
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going oh isn't this a lovely piece you know where where nowadays we're like
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oh can we can we move on it's just such a different perception oh for sure and
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something i want to celebrate too is so she was born june 2nd 1902 and lived all the way to 2010.
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Wow so she passed away at age 107 unfortunately she had broke her hip in march
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of 2010 and then she got very bad case of influenza and because of the influenza
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she couldn't perform anymore And it just really got to her and she passed away
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in May. So two months later.
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But it's just forced into retirement at age 106, huh? Isn't that crazy?
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But dude, good for her. She celebrated as one of the best to ever do it.
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Probably the last one to ever do it, really.
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And also during World War II, because I also feel like radio shows are very big during that time.
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World War II, she had her own radio show, Rosa Rio Rhythms.
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So check that out but without further ado did you look up the show is it just
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her playing organ for a half hour or whatever yeah pretty much different rhythms yeah,
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Yeah, that's a different time. Different time for sure. Yeah.
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Without further ado, let's continue.
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So it was only 40 seconds.
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So I was half right. Almost half right.
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Half right. Yeah, this is the perfect time to go get some cheese from the fridge. Use the bathroom.
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Right, yeah, exactly, exactly. Let's continue.
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Come on, Mary, let's take a turn on the ferris wheel. We haven't done that in years.
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Big and too winded to go another step. You go on alone now, right here.
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Nothing doing. Well, sir, sir.
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Somebody calling me. Down there, Henry. Come in this way. Oh, shit, look.
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Oh, gee, I'm mighty glad I found you, sir. Hey, what's the matter, Roop? Something wrong?
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Donny Clare, the star aerialist over in the Big Top. She was just found murdered in her tent.
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Okay, so right away, I have to comment on this.
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I love that, you know, that type of dialect is called the transatlantic sound,
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right? Like the way they speak.
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Am I correct in saying that? Or no? I don't know. Yeah, that sounds good to me.
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I'm pretty sure that's correct because it's always like that I love how he goes,
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the aerialist over here got hit by the big top.
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I've got a question for you Uncle Dad, where do you think this is taking place?
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I'm going to assume it's 1940-something, right?
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So I feel like a lot of these were recorded in Chicago or whatever.
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So I would imagine the concept is that it's in a small town in Illinois or New York. What do you think?
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See, I was trying to be obnoxious. I was just pointing out, this is at a circus carnival.
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Well, yeah, I knew that. i thought you
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meant more of a like a music playing right
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you've got the the whatever you
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called that voice who's always at the carnival right markin and yeah and of
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course the title of the episode but you know this this is radio so how do they
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convey that and it's like oh you just play this dumb organ song also you know
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what you brought up a good point we didn't mention the name of the episode.
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So the name of the episode that we're listening to is Carnival Murder.
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Keeping with the Halloween theme. And we're less than a minute in and 40 seconds
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of that was the organ and we already know there's been a murder at the carnival.
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And also the sheriff just happens to be there. I love that. Alright, let's continue.
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Now let's get this straight. Cause of death, strangulation.
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Grease paint smears on her throat and several. Okay. How does he know that right away?
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Tell me, Chris, tell me how he knew that. As a radio listener,
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we can't see the blatant clues he sees.
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Uncle Dad, I'm sure it would be very obvious to us if we could only see it. I guess. All right.
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Small fresh scratches on the palms of her hands.
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Yeah, well, I mean, he's describing it, sure, but he knew right away,
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despite looking, I don't know.
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All right. I assume also, grease smear. Well, what do you say,
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Sheriff? We can't keep the crowd waiting in the big top all day.
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As company manager, what do you think?
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It's kind of upset your show, doesn't it? Why don't you talk to the voodoo doctor?
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He was the last one with her. Might be a good idea. Which one's he?
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Well, he's right over there, Sheriff. The one in all the pain.
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Ah, see ya. Did he say the voodoo doctor is the one that's in all the paint? Is that what he said?
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Yeah, because if we're on a radio show, how are we going to know he's full of paint otherwise?
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You see, it's brilliant story writing. It conveys the image to us so seamlessly and naturally.
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I can't tell if you're being facetious or not.
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I wonder if this is a good time to talk about carnivals while we're stopped.
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You know what? I like what you do. The culture. Well, I was thinking about how
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it comes from, I think, European gypsy culture from maybe the 1800s or something originally.
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But it has a real American 20th century kind of lore. And I read that.
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Was it the Chicago State Fair got people real excited about technology?
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Did you look up research on this?
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Yeah, I do have some of that. So it wasn't the State Fair. It was the Chicago
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World Fair. Remember when they used to do a World Fair? Yes, yes.
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Yeah, yeah. So that's kind of what they started seeing, like,
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oh, this is something that we could do, right? And that would have been in 1893.
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So, gosh, I mean, that's such a long time ago. but
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you know and you're right
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on everything you're saying with like the coming in from european culture
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but then when it goes to the united states right we then
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start adding things like uh burlesque shows in
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it we add magic lantern shows we add i feel like
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it's like the american thing right like we add the we add more uh
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sparkle to everything right like more little bells and whistles i i read also
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that this this world fair they were showcasing technology and they were and
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And so the lights and the ride and things like this, I think, were kind of a new thing.
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And I read that from that, people got so excited about it because not everyone
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could go to the World Fair.
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And so traveling shows became a big thing and a booming industry of bringing
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this, quote, technology and spectacle around the country.
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And then amusement parks started kind of popping up as well,
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which had the advantage of being in a fixed location.
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It didn't have to be torn down and put up wherever they went.
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But this sort of romantic idea of this touring show of bizarre technological wonders, attractions,
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but also the kind of side shows of freakishness and the fears of.
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You know crime traveling along with
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it but but also the romanticism of leaving
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home and just going on
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the lam more or less you know just just traveling and
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getting getting a bite to eat wherever you go and all
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you have to do is put put up this scaffolding or
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whatever from city to city and uh yeah so it's
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really a fascinating thing that that is
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once again another kind of thing of the past absolutely
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and you know i was going to tell you would you say
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that the carnival is like old americana
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yes you too yeah yeah i
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think so i i feel like when you think of like
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i love looking at old carnival ads
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like we've seen them like if maybe i'll put one in our promotional picture
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but old carnival ads were i mean they're
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probably also hand-drawn like i mean and dude they were just there's so
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much going on and like you don't really see that care for these
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kind of things anymore and i think uh you know
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the carnival in general like you said kind of being like a dying art you
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know it's i think the closest thing really to like a like successful carnival
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besides like a circus of course it's like uh almost music festivals because
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music festivals offer carnival elements now right granted they cost you way
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more than they need to but they have like like coachella is a good example right
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you go to coachella you get all these the acts but
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you also get the ability to go on carnival rides and carnival games, right? So, I don't know.
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Let's continue. Hello, Voodoo Doctor. Yes, sir, I am. What's your name?
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What do I call you besides Voodoo Doctor? Just call me Neil.
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Urban here tells me that you might be able to throw some light on the murder
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of Miss Clare. Urban, eh?
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I thought so. Why, you... No rough stuff, eh? Talk, Neil.
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Don't feel like it. Well, Urban, suppose you tell me what you know.
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Well, Sheriff, just before the show started, I saw the voodoo doctor sneak away from Dottie's tent.
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Dressed just as he is in costume. Yeah, greased from head to foot.
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I waited until he passed and then looked into Dottie's tent.
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She was dead. And you think? I'm going to call it right now.
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I think I know who did it. Who do you think did it?
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I don't think it's the voodoo doctor. Because they're making it too obvious.
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Sheriff? Is it the sheriff?
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The sheriff. there's whoever this character he's talking to called urban that's who i think did it.
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So i i want to ask yes did
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we talk to the voodoo doctor that's who we just talked to right now neil neil
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was the voodoo doctor neil was the voodoo doctor and and what what was the cut
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to the the new character he said well neil if you're not going to talk will
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you talk urban okay and what Was the voodoo doctor shouting at the sheriff?
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No, that was Urban. So what caused Urban to lose his temper like that and interrupt? I don't know.
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That wasn't unclear. Was he just listening to the voodoo doctor?
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And he had issue with something the voodoo doctor said, perhaps?
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Well, because the voodoo doctor wasn't talking. So I think that's why.
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Okay. So someone has to speak on behalf of the voodoo doctor and put him under the bus.
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Yes. Right. Right. All right.
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Neil, the voodoo doctor. Neil Donnie, I'm sure of it. I heard him threaten her.
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That's a lie. Donnie asked me to come to her tent.
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She was dead when I got there. Did you touch anything? Not a thing.
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I'm not so crazy as to leave fingerprints on somebody else's dirty work.
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Does everyone in the show use the same grease paint that you have on,
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Neil? No, I'm the only one.
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As a voodoo, I have to paint up like this. Well, if you and Urban were the only
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humans to be near the body before she was murdered... He's your man,
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sir. I don't think so, Urban.
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Clearly it's Urban. So, go ahead. Let's look at a little story structure here.
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Now we have a third gentleman who wouldn't be so dumb as to touch a body.
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It'll be interesting in five minutes to see how many possibilities for murders they can introduce.
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Right? Sure. Yeah. So far, we just have theΓ’ΒΒwell, it's pushing toward the voodoo doctor.
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Remember, the voodoo doctor's name is Neil.
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Would you prefer I call him Neil? Is that why you're bringing this up?
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No, because of what kind of doctor? His name is Neil.
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That's my point. Like, how are we not reacting to that? Do you think his name
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is N-E-A-L or N-E-I-L or K-N-E-E-L?
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Well, it's the funniest. I'd probably say it's N-E-I-L. Okay.
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So getting back to the story structure, I just find it interesting that they're
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really pushing toward Neil being the guy because he's got the face paint.
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And why else would she have the face paint rubbed off on her?
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Exactly. But I also want to point out, as soon as they introduced a second person,
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we in our postmodern society say, well, whoever they're pushing toward, it can't be that person.
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But I want to point out, they've introduced two other possibilities now that
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they're trying to make not look like could be the people.
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But that's now splitting our chances of getting who it is.
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I would say it's two, because I would say it's a safe bet it's not the voodoo
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Dr. Neal. Neil. Yes, it's not Neil.
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I think you're in for a little surprise. You see, I'm holding you for the murder of Dottie Clare.
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Why did the sheriff arrest Urban, the show's manager, for the murder of his aerialist?
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In a moment, we'll hear, but first... I don't know what I'm talking about.
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But first, let's get another one minute of organ playing.
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Yeah. So now I'm second-guessing myself. Are there two characters,
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or is it just Neil or the manager?
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So there's the sheriff, who's the guy overseeing everything. Okay.
00:28:21.684 --> 00:28:26.544
You have Irvin, who is the manager. Okay. And then you have Neil,
00:28:26.784 --> 00:28:28.284
who is the voodoo doctor.
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So forget everything I just said. There's not a third person.
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But I know there's a choice of two then, right? Right.
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They're really minimizing this because they're not going to make the sheriff
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who's investigating the case like I guessed.
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Right. Right. And it's their said, OK, we got to keep this crisp and tight.
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We got to give you two choices.
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So what was the clue that jumped out to you, Uncle Dad?
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I don't know if it was the clue, but it was the cadence of the way Irvin was being so aggressive.
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So i'm guessing that they're
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gonna have evidence in
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something someone said and i'm guessing it has to do with the grease paint it
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has to and so the question is what did we miss well there's a little way to
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find we were so busy being silly we lost track of our job to try and solve this murder.
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Well, not just us, also the audience.
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Let's go ahead and continue with this beautiful organ. We're going to...
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I've got it.
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You think you got it? I think I figured out how the sheriff knows.
00:30:08.664 --> 00:30:11.624
Okay. Wait till I end song and then I'll tell you. You tell us.
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I'm not.
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Before he reveals, go ahead and tell us why you think so.
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I think Urban revealed something in what he said that proved it wasn't Neil.
00:30:36.215 --> 00:30:40.595
All right. Well, let's find out here. Oh, back to our story.
00:30:40.755 --> 00:30:43.555
You're crazy, Sheriff. You ain't got one piece of evidence against me.
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Listen, you claim it was Neil that came out of the tent after Dottie Claire was murdered.
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Neil's torso and his face and hands are covered with grease paint.
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It's all over the dead girl's costume, too, ain't it? What more could you want?
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Just something you overlooked, Irvin.
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Anyone struggling with him would have... You have something to say?
00:30:59.695 --> 00:31:06.315
Anyone struggling with the voodoo guy would have it all over himself.
00:31:08.515 --> 00:31:13.775
Yes, exactly. Let's continue. ...grease paint all over his own hands, too.
00:31:14.195 --> 00:31:18.695
The only marks on Dottie's hands were scratches. This is proof enough that Dottie
00:31:18.695 --> 00:31:21.095
Clare did not struggle with your voodoo man, as you said.
00:31:22.215 --> 00:31:28.135
Consequently, he couldn't have strangled her. Oh, Urban, looks like you slipped up that time.
00:31:28.455 --> 00:31:30.755
And that slip is going to cost you your life.
00:31:36.095 --> 00:31:43.575
And the murderer's fingerprints are all over her body as well with that grease paint.
00:31:43.995 --> 00:31:48.855
Exactly. I think that literally was it so let me make sure so hold on,
00:31:53.295 --> 00:32:06.095
yeah one more minute of Oregon Oh, my God.
00:32:14.475 --> 00:32:14.695
Heaven,
00:32:16.228 --> 00:32:20.668
And that's all she wrote. How many of the five minute, how many minutes of the
00:32:20.668 --> 00:32:22.188
five minute mystery was that Oregon?
00:32:22.408 --> 00:32:25.908
You're going to have to add it all up for us. I can see it here.
00:32:25.988 --> 00:32:29.108
One, two, two 40. So almost three.
00:32:32.748 --> 00:32:36.688
I love it. Yes. So yeah, we, we guessed right.
00:32:36.888 --> 00:32:40.228
Or you guessed right. I guess I did too. Cause I kind of, I felt like it was
00:32:40.228 --> 00:32:43.288
pretty obvious, but you had the better intuition.
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Cause you think like a detective, because you are a hard-boiled detective, am I right?
00:32:47.708 --> 00:32:50.568
No, you're not right. Damn it.
00:32:51.988 --> 00:32:56.448
But yes, now at home, the listeners, did you get it right? Did you know it was
00:32:56.448 --> 00:32:58.448
going to be Irvin? I'd love to find out.
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00:33:02.928 --> 00:33:05.388
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00:33:05.588 --> 00:33:09.548
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I just want to say I'm looking forward to all the comments about how ridiculously
00:33:23.408 --> 00:33:30.568
poorly we were at figuring out the obvious clues on this one as we went through
00:33:30.568 --> 00:33:35.168
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00:33:35.168 --> 00:33:41.248
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00:33:56.368 --> 00:33:59.768
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00:34:00.288 --> 00:34:03.628
I love that. Go check him out. We absolutely appreciate him for being a part
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of this. So this is just episode one.
00:34:05.828 --> 00:34:08.748
And episode one came out to 35 minutes. I don't know if they're going to be
00:34:08.748 --> 00:34:09.588
like that every single time.
00:34:09.888 --> 00:34:13.908
But, you know, me and Mike always say we're going to do 20 minutes and it ends up becoming an hour.
00:34:14.028 --> 00:34:20.708
And we had a lot of groundwork to lay discussing what this show is about and stuff.
00:34:20.888 --> 00:34:24.468
And so we're not going to mess around and goof off next episode.
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We're going to get right in and solve that mystery.
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Amen, brother. Amen. man and remember everybody this is all part of uncle dad
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oh we and so everybody have a great october and we will see you all next week thanks for listening.
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Music.