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The GamePapas Episode 11: Game Informer's Top 200 games of All-Time ( Part 1)

The GamePapas Episode 11: Game Informer's Top 200 games of All-Time ( Part 1)
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Welcome to another exciting episode of The GamePapas! Uncle Dad, alongside the Retro Gaming Nomad. In this episode, we dive into part two of our trilogy series, discussing Game Informer magazine's top 200 games of all time, as listed in their 2009 issue.

Join us as we continue our countdown from 200 to 150, sharing our thoughts, reactions, and some heated debates about where these classic games stand in gaming history. From iconic titles like Marvel vs. Capcom 2 to hidden gems like Tactics Ogre, we cover it all.

Grab a drink, sit back, and enjoy as we reminisce and critique these legendary games. And don't forget to check out our Instagram pages @uncledadtalks and @retrogamingnomad for more gaming content and updates!

Peace, love, game on!

Chapters

00:22 - Introduction

02:23 - Nostalgia and Disagreements

02:55 - Controversial Top 100 Game

04:43 - Top 200 Game Informer Issue

05:50 - Nintendo Dominance and Top 200 Covers

06:32 - Diving into Top 200 Games

06:53 - Beyond Good and Evil

07:05 - Tactics Ogre and Strategy Games

07:14 - A Dog’s Life and Quirky Games

07:59 - Special Commemorative Covers

08:51 - Tactics Ogre’s Strategy and Gameplay

09:42 - The Appeal of Tactics Ogre’s Box Art

12:17 - Reimagining Classic Games

13:00 - Remakes and Reboots

13:58 - NHL 09 - A Filler Game?

14:13 - Childhood Memories of NHL Games

14:22 - Favorite NHL Game Memories

14:37 - Thoughts on Call of Duty Remakes

15:38 - God of War Remake Success

16:29 - Developers’ Ups and Downs

18:04 - Disappointments in Game Sequels

19:59 - Developers’ Missteps with NFTs

20:12 - Marvel vs. Capcom 2 Debate

21:13 - Marvel vs. Capcom 2 Dreamcast Version

22:09 - Hidden Gems in Game Collections

24:12 - Vagrant Story Discovery and Story

25:13 - Metal Gear Solid 3 Discussion

26:56 - Chronicles of Riddick and Game Development

29:13 - Infamous Game Overrated?

32:10 - Super Mario World 2 - Yoshi’s Island

33:08 - NFL 2K5 Praise

35:41 - NFL 2K5 Innovative Features

37:17 - Samurai Showdown - Neo Geo Excellence

38:39 - Call of Duty Favorites

39:12 - Mega Hit Game Love

39:20 - Legendary Max Payne

40:21 - Remakes Speculation

40:34 - Sam Lake’s Involvement

40:55 - Limited Run Physical Copy

41:48 - NBA Jam Versions

42:31 - Genesis Version Differences

42:50 - NBA Jam Extreme

43:07 - Wii Version Joke

43:18 - Phoenix Wright Quirky

43:28 - Phoenix Wright Objection!

44:37 - Phoenix Wright Ace Attorney

44:57 - Gunstar Heroes Story

46:52 - Ikaruga GameCube

47:58 - Gunstar Heroes Controller

49:47 - Bully Fanatic

50:09 - Ridge Racer Comparison

51:27 - Namco Negicon Controller

52:35 - King’s Quest and Peggle

53:15 - Peggle Over Ape Escape

54:39 - Crackdown Targeting System

55:06 - Crackdown Revisited

56:42 - Far Cry 5 Discussion

58:21 - Gauntlet Arcade Memories

01:00:51 - Gunstar Heroes Genesis Version

01:01:51 - Gauntlet Arcade Cheating

01:03:34 - Ending at 150

01:04:00 - Crackdown Promotion

01:06:43 - Crackdown Terry Crews

01:08:35 - LittleBigPlanet Jumping Mechanics

01:12:03 - Overrated Fable

01:13:33 - ActRaiser Super Nintendo

01:14:53 - Xeno Saga Memories

01:15:08 - Top 200 Countdown Progress

01:15:54 - Ape Escape Comparison

01:16:51 - Correction: Ikaruga on Dreamcast

01:17:33 - Dreamcast Disappointment

01:17:43 - Anticipation for Future Rankings

Transcript
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Music.

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Gamers and welcome to another episode of the game papas i'm uncle dad the host

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of the game papas along with me who hosts with me is the one and only the massive

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gamer himself the gaming,

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aficionado the man the myth legend retro gaming nomad what's

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up man hey welcome welcome americans europeans

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australians and everybody else around the world

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i love it man so you know

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we just did a very long episode for those who didn't listen go

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give it a listen or if you did listen you didn't finish it go finish it

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because we're doing a part two of a trilogy

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and that is game informer magazine's top 100 200 and 300 games of all time now

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mr nomad let's talk about your reaction overall from the first 100 oh you know

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my reaction man it's it's you know just growing up having.

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Multi-consoles and the greatness well the great games that are on each of those

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consoles and i mean i was i was lucky enough to have them now i wasn't privileged

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where my parents bought me all that stuff i worked for all my stuff and that's

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probably why i kept a lot of my stuff to this day,

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you know the whole blood sweat and tears thing so i i bought

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these consoles myself i bought these games myself so but

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i i sought out and i made sure you know that i

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had a little bit of everything thing i think the majority

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of the people doing this list had one

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maybe two consoles and they

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both started with n but don't you think so as a gaming journalist you can't

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be biased like that like a journalist in general i would think so but i don't

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know i i think just the majority of them like i said had a couple consoles they

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might have played you know turbo graphics here and there at at a friend's house or a Neo Geo or,

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you know, an Amiga Commodore 64 somewhere else.

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But I mean, it's obvious that they played primarily an NES, then went to Super

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Geo and then went to PlayStation.

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I mean, it's obvious, dude, because there's so many great games on these other

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systems. I mean, phenomenal games that didn't scratch the surface.

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And then some that some that you named and we both got pissed off.

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Like, are you kidding me?

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That game's on the top 100. I wouldn't put that in the top 500.

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For those who don't know what we're talking about, if you listen to the episode,

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we talked about Apex Scape made it to top one, like was number 100.

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And to me, that is just the biggest, craziest top 100 game of all time.

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That's a slap in the face to all true gamers, man. That one.

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But to be fair, there's definitely probably somebody out there who probably

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thinks that there's, you know, not thinks, but feels that that's their,

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you know, top 100 game of all time, if not number one game of all time. True.

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I have to agree with that because there's a lot of these quirky games that I

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really like. And the people are like, they wouldn't give it the time of day.

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I mean, one of them is, I think we talked about before, a game that I absolutely

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loved. And it was super simple to play.

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But I just had a blast playing it, man. It was just funny to me.

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And I enjoyed it. Was A Dog's Life on the PS2.

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Yeah, that's a good one. I absolutely love that game, man. And I tell other

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people, like, oh, this is kind of stupid. Or even like Mr. Mosquito.

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It's called in japan i love those quirky games

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man but you know and i put those in my in my top you

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know you know 300 list or whatever they probably

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wouldn't see the light of day on others so to each their own i guess

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but i mean i'm i'm just we're just talking about what we

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agree on and what we don't agree on and i think we

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both don't agree on that one being a top 100 game for sure

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i think that's the biggest almost offense but whatever you know the people like

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what they like right but uh for this episode we're doing the top 200 now but

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when we did the top 100 that issue i think that issue came out in 2007 or something

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i thought so this one came out in 2009

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so we're about two two two years after i had to do the math right now two years after 2007

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so we are going no i'm sorry let me rephrase that no no that's not true it was

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2008 i'm sorry 2009 yeah hold on you know what i'm gonna have to edit this because

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i don't remember now give me one

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second here give me one second and so anyways now that i got that out of the way.

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November of 2009 they did the top 200 games of all time now here is the interesting thing,

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you were talking about nintendo and favoritism right and i'm actually going

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to put each of these covers on our promo when we release this episode but for

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the 200 issue they did the top 200 and And they did, like, special commemorative covers.

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Now, these covers include the following games.

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The 8-bit version of Link from Legend of Zelda. Yep. The 8-bit version from Super Mario.

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Mm-hmm. I think, I guess, the Game Boy Color-looking version of Tetris.

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The image of, I guess he had no name, but the main character from Grand Theft Auto 3. Mm-hmm.

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What is his name from Half-Life 2, or Half-Life, the main guy?

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Not Morgan Freeman. I know it's not right.

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But it's Morgan, though, right? It's Morgan something, right? Yeah, I can't remember.

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Yeah, well, that main character from Half-Life, he was on the cover.

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One of the demons from Doom, but the pixelated version, so like the old school Doom. Yeah, yeah.

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And then we have Samus Aran from the original Metroid.

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And then you have all the cast, it looks like, from Final Fantasy 2 or 3.

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I can't i can't make that up but yes so what have

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you noticed with all the games that i told you about they're all

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on nintendo except for gta and

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half-life and half-life yeah yeah what do you think what was your thoughts on

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half-life half-life 2 um arguably one of the greatest games that would make

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my top 20 no problem really yeah i think half-life in my opinion it's like the

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closest thing to an action it was battle shock before battle shock i always

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felt a little slightly overrated.

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Really? Yeah. Well, we'll talk about that eventually.

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Cause that's going to be in this list. So, all right, sir, everybody listening,

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grab a beer, grab a drink and get ready. As we dive in to the top 200.

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Now we might not do a deep dive on every game, but I will mention every game this time.

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Last, in last episode, we didn't mention every game this time.

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We will, but we're going to start, sir, at 200, number 200.

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And if you have something to say, let's talk about it. If you don't, we can pass number 200.

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Beyond Good and Evil. Ooh, they're about doing a remake. Doing a remake of Beyond Good and Evil.

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But I'll tell you this, man. Already, I don't agree with this.

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I think that needs to be in the top 100.

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I would probably put it in the top 100 myself. Yeah, exactly. Definitely top 150.

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Yeah. That game was so ahead of its time. I mean, do you remember a lot about

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that game? Yeah, man. That game was just flat out fun.

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And the dialogue with the characters, you had the darkness, but you also had

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a lot of really good color, really good color palettes on there.

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God, if I remember correctly, I think it was only rated teen or something like that.

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So anybody can play it. It reminded me a lot how much I enjoyed,

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like, Psychonauts, dude.

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It was in there just with that comedy, with the action, the adventure, the shooting.

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Yeah, there was just a bunch of different elements to that game. It was such a good game.

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Yeah, and people tend to forget, too, that was an Ubisoft classic before what

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they were, right? Before they became an Assassin's Creed machine.

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Yeah, pumping out every year. But number 199, I think you're really going to dig.

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And you might even be offended by this one. Number 199 is Tactics Ogre. Ooh.

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So me personally, Tactics Ogre, I would put in my top 100.

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Tactics Ogre is one of the best strategy games I played, and I used to play a lot back in the day.

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You know, starting, of course, with Military Madness on the Turbo, TurboGrafx.

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Then I went on to Shining Force on the Sega Master System and Game Gear.

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Shining Force 2, and of course, the incredible Shining Force 3.

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Too bad they didn't release, because Shining Force 3 was break down to three

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episodes. They only released episode one in America, but you can you can go

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out and get episodes two and three right now kind of repros and they're done

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very well and they're translated for you for the most part. Pretty good.

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So I recommend that. But Tactics Ogre. Yeah, man.

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Phenomenal game. Do you remember the strategy?

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The strategy on that game was just just next level. And God,

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the battles would take forever.

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You had to put aside at least an hour for one battle.

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Oh, for sure. Yeah, that was one

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of those games that took a long time to play, but it was so good. Yeah.

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So, so good. Because that was the foundation before Final Fantasy Tactics, correct?

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I believe so. I believe that came out before Final Fantasy Tactics.

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And Final Fantasy Tactics borrowed a lot from that and the Shining Force series for the most part.

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Yeah, I'm pretty sure it came out before that. And no knock on Final Fantasy Tactics.

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That was phenomenal, too. But Tactics Ogre, man, that game was just kind of came out of nowhere.

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Nobody really knew kind of what it was. And then, of course,

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you had the Ogre Battle series, Ogre Battle 64 and all that.

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But Tactics Ogre, man, one of my faves.

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And that game also had some of the coolest art cover, box art, too, I think. Oh, yes.

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Yeah. Dude, even the box alone, like if you were to sell just the box,

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could still sell for like not like tons of money but a

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good pretty penny for an empty box yeah i found a

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copy disc only tactics ogre ps1 at

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a garage sale five bucks wow yeah and

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i looked at the disc and i had some surface scratches nothing too bad

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but i was like dude five bucks hell yeah and i brought it i

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brought it i brought it home i put it on my game chair and

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i didn't realize it i sat down to play i don't know

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what i was playing maybe i think diablo or something like that and

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i freaking sat on the disc and i cracked it oh man

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i was gonna say i actually have a box of tactics over that

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i could give you for that at my parents house well yeah

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i mean you can still give it to me i'll put the cracked disc in there there you

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go i still have my original copy

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of it but to get that game for five bucks man i was like i was

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stoked and yeah i guess it wasn't meant to be 198 is

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the legendary splinter cell pandora tomorrow

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oh yeah great game man i'm a huge splinter

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cell fan especially of the original trilogy and tomorrow was yeah they took

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all the complaints that i had about the first one and don't get me wrong i love

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the first one but there was like you know just stuff that oh they could have

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did this better and they fixed them and i know tomorrow and then perfected them

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in chaos theory i thought yeah great game.

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They need to bring Fisher back to like legit bring him back well he doesn't

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want to do it anymore I thought what's his face Ironside Rick well yeah the

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boys I'm talking about the game.

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Oh yeah aren't they doing a remake of the original one though.

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That's what i heard and i hope it's not

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true because i'm tired of i'm tired of the money

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grabs on stuff like that man it's like oh we're gonna do

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it or we're gonna do it in the in the same spirit as the first one because they

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did that with assassin's creed mirage and i'm sorry man mirage it was boring

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dude they took such a step back in the series man i i played it through i finished

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it but it's like okay i see what you were trying to do but honestly man i'd probably

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play the original one more than i would play

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mirage it looked beautiful but it's like

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you got the best you got the best weapons right from

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the get-go especially if you got the the pre-order edition you you never needed

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any other weapons and it was just like boring i was like what you know just

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i'm just pickpocketing people this whole time to get more stuff and doing a

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bunch of fetch quests and it had just got boring dude so i hope they don't do

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it that way i love love the first one don't get me wrong but.

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People want something that they're familiar with but new don't remake the old

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stuff man it's just tired now well if you're gonna do it you gotta do it like

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almost like how God of War did

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it right where it was like a remake reboot kind of thing yeah and and I'm,

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I'm partial on that one because I really liked the, you know,

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the overhead kind of view of the of the original God of Wars.

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And you're seeing the whole map and all the enemies coming at you.

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Don't get me wrong. The one that they eventually released on PS4,

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the remakes or whatever, they were good.

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I still prefer the old ones with the battle and all that stuff.

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And I thought the I thought the PSP version didn't get enough love.

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I thought those are fantastic, too. Yeah, those are. Yeah.

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But they did God of War right. They said, hey, we're going to we're going to take this game.

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Were to make it kind of tweak it a little bit and yeah i'm

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all for it so just please don't remake it exactly

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how the original was because a lot of people don't remember probably

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due to the very first spinner cell it was hard and

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it was slow very slow very very slow that was like i remember that was a game

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that i demoed at a store maybe we used to do demos at stores and i was like

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oh wow this is a slow game but then when i when i rented it and played it at

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home i was like oh okay this This is way more fun than it's not a game you demo, right? Yeah.

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Yeah. Well, they, and they tweaked it too. They tweaked it a little bit,

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but yeah, the way you, you had to hide the bodies, man.

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You had to hide everything. You had anything out in the open,

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even though you didn't see somebody come by, the alarm would go off and you're

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screwed after that. Once the alarm goes off, you're done.

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Yeah, absolutely. So these next, next two, we can kind of go through them.

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I think really fast. Last 197 is NHL 09.

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What's there to say about that? Let's move on.

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But also, why is it in the top 200, right? But that's, whatever.

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That's a filler game if you ask me. I don't know if you agree with that.

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Well, I can't say too much about NHL 09 because I don't think I have actually played that one.

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So I'm going to take that word for it. I played a lot of NHL games.

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My favorite being probably 93.

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I hated 97. 97 was booty. And I think I never played 09.

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I think I played up to I think I played up to.

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Oh oh five i think it was and like

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after after oh five my sports games kind

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of died off honestly so i was

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i had this hate relationship with ea because i was pissed off that

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they bought the rights to the nfl and visual

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concepts couldn't make any more nfl 2k games

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anymore or and that really ticked me off so

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you can save that you get to nfl 2k then

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you can get into that conversation decision yeah well pk not not

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being in the top 100 is ridiculous well i can

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i already see it coming so 196 is

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the original call of duty what's there not to say about call of duty creating

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one of the most successful franchises of all time to this day you know and now

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microsoft owns it and now we're going to get it free day one with all the call

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duties going forward if you have game pass of course i think there's a lot to

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say about call of duty but i know it's going to show up more than one time,

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so let's just wait until we get to the most important Call of Duty that you

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think is for your Call of Duty, if you will. Yeah, okay.

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195 is the PC classic and RPG classic, Ultima. Oh, yeah.

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Yeah, Ultima is a game you cannot... I don't think you can talk about RPGs and

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not talk about Ultima, in my opinion.

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No, that has a stamp on the RPG gaming community forever. Ultima forever, dude.

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Of course, It was way better on PC than any version that they made on console,

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just because of the whole keyboard aspect to it, the quick keys that you can use and all that stuff.

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But that was one of the dungeon crawlers, if you will, RPGs,

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that really, in my opinion, captured how you would play kind of a D&D board game.

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You know, Ultima, it was just, it was fantastic. The story, the characters,

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the gameplay, the interaction with them. Yeah, it was a fantastic game, man.

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Yeah and it's also people for those who don't know who developed that game he's

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a legend in the business Richard Garrett or Garriott I think it is or he used

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to go by Lord British yeah I don't know do you remember that no man did he lose his lordship.

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No that was he didn't he wasn't actually

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a lord he just called himself that like dr gray

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yeah right but you know

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for those who don't know is that richard garriott i think

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it's garriott or garrett was actually the son

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of a nasa astronaut owen garrett oh that

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kind of makes a lot of sense because later on i remember not to

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go too far ahead in this but he did end up making a

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there was me he was making this game that

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was supposed to be because ultimately was his pride and joy right he

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kept doing that for a long time and they made like four i

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think i think maybe even five and then at some point he

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wanted to work with nc soft and remember

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that during the mmo hype he was creating this

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new mmo that everybody was so it was supposed to

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be the wow killer and it was called tabula rasa do

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you remember that yeah yes yeah oh

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man that's a that's a grab that's a yeah yeah

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i do remember that yeah and i remember i don't think i was working at the store

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yet at that time but i do remember buying the special edition of that game there

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because it got like nobody was buying it so it became like two dollars or like 4.99,

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and i play the game and guess what it sucks.

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That's what happens with some developers man

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they get you know they're they're they perfect their

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craft in a certain area build on something that they built already and

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it works it works it works and then they might

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get away from it think of a new idea and it doesn't work it happens all

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the time i mean we we saw that with with like

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yuji naka yeah it was with sonic and

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before that he did black belt which was fantastic on the

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sega master system it was like sega's answer to

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kung fu on nes i personally thought it was better but

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it was it was it was black belt is essentially fist in the

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north star in america but sega didn't have the rights to fist in the north star

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nintendo did so they had to change the name to black belt and change the characters

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and all this other stuff so yuji naka then uh went on to help create sonic the

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hedgehog from sonic the hedgehog they did had a sonic team he helped with fanny

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star online and then of course burning burning rangers and then,

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his latest one was an absolute flop the ballon

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wonderland oh yeah that's right i was like where are you going with this okay

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yeah yeah well yeah no because it shows like oh you're on top of your game all

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the stuff everything you touch is gold and all of a sudden you know it's like

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ballon wonderland and i and i picked it up just because i'm gonna i'm gonna

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knock a fan even though he He was in jail at the time,

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I think, because of insider training or insider trading or some shit he was doing.

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And I played it and it wasn't as horrible as people were saying,

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but I could see why people hated it. Cause it was just kind of boring.

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And it was like, he tried to, he tried to recapture like nights into dreams. It didn't work.

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So it was like a mixture of nights and Sonic and it just didn't work.

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And then he should have created something different, but that happens with a

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lot of developers, man. They, they used to one thing and they,

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and then they make caca and they're gone.

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Yep. And then talking about that, But speaking of cock of things,

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then he made an MMO that used NFTs.

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So you can imagine how that went. Oh, God.

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Yeah. Anyways, moving on.

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You know, we're already 20 minutes in. We haven't done 10 games yet.

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That's what I'm saying, man. We've got to blow through these. Let's go.

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Let's blow through these. Well, the next one, I feel like there's so much that's

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been said about this game that we don't need to say anything about it.

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And that is 194 Marvel vs. Capcom 2.

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Oh, God. How was that? I'm not even the biggest MVC2 fan.

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I'm not. And I know it's going to enrage a lot of people out there because I am a big fighting fan.

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And I've always thought Capcom versus SNK 2 was a better game. It's more skillful.

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But I understand it's a pill. I know a ton of people that like it.

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And I don't know of anybody who doesn't really play that game.

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Anytime people come over, I always get asked to put in MVC2.

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At Poplar Dreamcast, and it's on all night.

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How is that not in the top 100? That's crazy. I agree with that, too.

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Also, I want to point out that the system that they... Because everything is

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based on system, too. I just haven't been saying that.

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194 Marvel vs. Capcom is actually the Dreamcast version, too.

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They didn't put the other versions on there, so that's kind of cool,

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right? Well, they had to.

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Because, I mean, Marvel vs. Capcom, too, plays the Battle Carrier.

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Anybody who says it plays the best,

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especially at this time when this magazine came out, plays the

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best on the dreamcast the dreamcast it used

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the naomi board in the arcade which is essentially a dreamcast with more

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ram so it was like pretty much

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arcade perfect so and anybody who like played the ps2 version later they could

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they could see some of the frames some of the timing was off and it wasn't till

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you know kind of recently with the with the with the newer systems that they

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were able to kind of perfect that stuff but i i would still prefer it on the dreamcast to this day.

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And they have the Marvelous Capcom Collection coming out, which is not going

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to be released, believe it or not, on the PS5 because apparently they had to

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make a whole new engine to play it on the PS5 and they're not going to do it.

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So it's going to be released on PS4.

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Now, whether it's backwards compatible or not, we don't know 100% yet.

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But yeah, look out for that collection, man. It's going to make a lot of people

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happy. Well, I want to point out something about that collection.

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I'm glad you brought it up real fast.

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All those games on there are great, sure. I mean, they're great,

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whatever. But there's one specific game that I used to own the arcade for.

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And I think nobody talks about this fucking game. And it's one of the funnest

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beat-em-ups, side-scroller beat-em-up to come up. It's The Punisher.

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Yes! Yeah. And the fact that The Punisher is included on there,

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I think that makes it worth buying, 100%.

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You know what i i believe i bought that unit

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off of you you sold it you did yeah exactly

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the arcade went up and i forgot how much i liked the punisher man i started

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playing that game and i'm like dude why why is this not talked about this game

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is phenomenal yeah it's so good very much captures like the the over the top

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80s you know what the punisher was at the time right.

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Now if you don't know this Punisher is being removed from the Marvel world nowadays

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because he's too offensive so there you go kind of like Chuck E.

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Cheese dude Five Nights at Freddy's comes out and now they take all the animatronics out of Chuck E.

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Cheese's what does America come to man alright alright everybody calm down,

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193 I have nothing to say about this we can

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move past this one pretty quickly jack three next 192

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in my opinion should be much higher eternal darkness

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sanity's workroom oh god yes dude i

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would personally probably put that it

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was a silicon knights i believe did i develop that one uh i

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would put that one probably in my top 100 and

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the main reason why is because that was

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was the first game that i played where it literally tricked

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me because they had like this one part

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if nobody's played it they have this one part where i mean this is the old school

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crt tvs right you had to plug in the white yellow and all that or s video if

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you're if you're lucky and there's this one part where the screen goes snowy

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and in the upper right corner it says like video yeah and.

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I'm seriously like dude what happened to my gamecube and i'm like i'm like tapping the

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screen like whatever and it was part of the game and it

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was tricking me tricking my mind into thinking

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that my gamecube went out and i literally like unplugged these

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plugs and plugged them back in and then i realized after a

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while crap dude this is part of the game and you got me you got me silicon knights

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and there's another part where your your insanity starts going higher the meter

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or whatever and then your controls start mixing up they start going reverse

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so you're You're pushing up and your character's going down.

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You go left, it goes right.

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It was stuff like that, just originality like that, that I love in games.

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And they took a chance with that, man. So yeah, Sanity's Requiem, for sure, in my top 100.

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Definitely top 125 for it to be that low.

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And again, getting beat out by Ape Escape.

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I was just gonna say that. That's gonna be the default right there.

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Where is it compared to Ape Escape?

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Exactly. Exactly. Alright. You know what? We did a whole episode on this next

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game, so we don't have to talk about it.

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And that is Metal Gear Solid 3. That's $191.

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Oh yeah. Check our episode on that one. Fantastic game.

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Are you gonna get the remakes? dude i want

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to get the special edition if you can help me with that i could

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probably help you i could find you the what is it called the uh i almost

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said sanitarium what is it called the terrarium that's what

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i wanted sanitarium i think

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this can tennessee's working on yeah i i could

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probably i could probably find you one on that it's gonna cost

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you okay well just pay i'll pay face

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value you um plus then

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um anyways moving on

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yes but this is not an episode everybody because it is a great

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episode and we do a deep dive in that that was like two

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episodes ago 190 190 and i actually have something to say about this game really

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fast and that is the chronicles of riddick escape from bunch of a one of the

406
00:26:12,384 --> 00:26:20,124
best movie game ever ever yeah yes i know i'm cool that I don't know if it deserves

407
00:26:20,124 --> 00:26:21,344
to be top 100 personally,

408
00:26:21,504 --> 00:26:25,744
but it's fucking good. It's definitely better than Apex Scape, but whatever.

409
00:26:27,944 --> 00:26:35,284
Yeah, man. I read something about Chronicles of Riddick 2, the movie. It was,

410
00:26:37,304 --> 00:26:45,144
basically the Alien 3 story, and then they changed it to Chronicles of Riddick.

411
00:26:45,984 --> 00:26:53,064
Something like Like, it's related to Alien and Alien 3 story somehow.

412
00:26:53,264 --> 00:26:56,544
I forgot where I read that, but you guys can look that one up on your own.

413
00:26:56,604 --> 00:26:58,344
You'll see what I'm talking about, the connection to that one.

414
00:26:58,884 --> 00:27:01,944
Yeah, I just wanted to point out, too, that this game was also developed very

415
00:27:01,944 --> 00:27:03,844
much heavily with Vin Diesel involved.

416
00:27:04,224 --> 00:27:07,844
And Vin Diesel, at the time, his production company actually made that game,

417
00:27:07,864 --> 00:27:10,064
was one of the developers on that game.

418
00:27:11,044 --> 00:27:13,724
And correct me if I'm wrong, there was a...

419
00:27:14,688 --> 00:27:17,808
Like i don't want to say i guess it was a special edition right that came with a,

420
00:27:18,308 --> 00:27:21,368
with two two games right it was the original xbox version

421
00:27:21,368 --> 00:27:24,348
and then the second like a like a like an expansion

422
00:27:24,348 --> 00:27:27,168
pack right i believe you're right yeah i'm not

423
00:27:27,168 --> 00:27:30,508
100 on that but i think i do remember that yeah my thing

424
00:27:30,508 --> 00:27:33,468
is that game was the same thing just obviously looked way better and

425
00:27:33,468 --> 00:27:36,348
it had better loading times better everything right and and

426
00:27:36,348 --> 00:27:39,028
that expansion make was pretty solid too i don't know why they didn't

427
00:27:39,028 --> 00:27:41,748
put that one on there not not the and why the original you know

428
00:27:41,748 --> 00:27:44,928
what i mean it's like when it's like when people put metagross solid one on there yeah

429
00:27:44,928 --> 00:27:47,788
i get it it's so good but twin snakes is

430
00:27:47,788 --> 00:27:51,208
arguably better right yeah yeah and i

431
00:27:51,208 --> 00:27:54,008
think i think i think they came out with a third version that came with

432
00:27:54,008 --> 00:27:57,348
the movie pacifier with vin diesel in it too get out

433
00:27:57,348 --> 00:28:00,888
of here yeah i'm joking now correct

434
00:28:00,888 --> 00:28:03,668
me if i'm wrong for 189 here oh yeah sorry product of

435
00:28:03,668 --> 00:28:06,588
the record was 190 uh 189 i'm pretty

436
00:28:06,588 --> 00:28:11,928
sure was much higher on the last list and that's kid icarus yeah kid icarus

437
00:28:11,928 --> 00:28:17,428
was in top 100 i think i think i want to say you named kid icarus in like top

438
00:28:17,428 --> 00:28:23,988
50 and i lost it no it's not the list right here it's uh 83 okay still.

439
00:28:24,648 --> 00:28:30,128
Not that good so and i think they realize it now you know what i mean like hey

440
00:28:30,128 --> 00:28:33,828
we kind of have this because how do you go from what 83 to how to what one what

441
00:28:33,828 --> 00:28:38,488
189 exactly yeah oh yeah So within a couple of years, it dropped that much.

442
00:28:38,548 --> 00:28:41,448
That just shows you again. Oh, you know what that shows you?

443
00:28:41,868 --> 00:28:44,048
They bought another console. Yeah.

444
00:28:45,377 --> 00:28:50,457
That's what that told you. That's funny. 188. I don't actually know what this game is.

445
00:28:50,617 --> 00:28:53,557
I don't know if you know this game, but if you don't know anything about it, we can move past it.

446
00:28:53,877 --> 00:28:56,597
That's a Planescape Torment. Yeah. On PC.

447
00:28:57,997 --> 00:29:02,237
Yeah. Do you have anything to say about it or no? No, I did not get into Planescape at all.

448
00:29:02,337 --> 00:29:07,757
I just know I was already working at a store and we sold the hell out of Planescape.

449
00:29:08,097 --> 00:29:12,237
So I know it has a huge following, but now I don't know much about it. Sorry guys. Okay.

450
00:29:13,257 --> 00:29:16,077
187. I have nothing to say because I think this is the most overrated game of

451
00:29:16,077 --> 00:29:19,937
all time in my opinion and that is Infamous really?

452
00:29:20,677 --> 00:29:27,797
I do love Infamous dude in fact I just started playing Infamous Second Son PS4

453
00:29:27,797 --> 00:29:31,377
because I never played it and I started playing and I was like man I freaking

454
00:29:31,377 --> 00:29:34,037
miss the Infamous series.

455
00:29:34,257 --> 00:29:40,037
I'm blown away that you don't like Infamous I thought the first one was so overhyped

456
00:29:40,037 --> 00:29:43,717
and so I was actually working on the story at the time and you guys were all

457
00:29:43,717 --> 00:29:48,057
like oh man it's just so great and then i remember getting it i forgot i think

458
00:29:48,057 --> 00:29:52,337
it was like it got really cheap i did not care for it now what i will tell you is,

459
00:29:53,057 --> 00:29:56,057
i've really liked only one infamous and

460
00:29:56,057 --> 00:29:59,057
that was infamous to the the diary of

461
00:29:59,057 --> 00:30:02,777
blood i think it's called vampire one or whatever blood festival

462
00:30:02,777 --> 00:30:05,957
yeah that was the old yeah that's that i loved

463
00:30:05,957 --> 00:30:09,277
that i thought that was so in even how

464
00:30:09,277 --> 00:30:12,097
do you love that one and not even like infamous because it has all

465
00:30:12,097 --> 00:30:15,397
the the the aspects of infamous in it sure i

466
00:30:15,397 --> 00:30:18,197
agree i just yeah i don't know man i did not care for it

467
00:30:18,197 --> 00:30:21,577
and then second son was coolish i guess but yeah i

468
00:30:21,577 --> 00:30:24,577
don't i do not care for infamous you know what i like i thought was better because

469
00:30:24,577 --> 00:30:27,597
it came out around the same time i thought prototype was better prototype was

470
00:30:27,597 --> 00:30:31,117
good though yeah i see this work i mean you disagree you like prototype more

471
00:30:31,117 --> 00:30:34,597
i like the infamous more but i respect prototype prototype was pretty dope man

472
00:30:34,597 --> 00:30:37,757
the way your character can morph and all that stuff and different abilities

473
00:30:37,757 --> 00:30:44,037
yeah prototype was sick all right 186 Marvel Madness hmm.

474
00:30:45,656 --> 00:30:49,816
Yeah, I get it. Sorry, the arcade version.

475
00:30:50,056 --> 00:30:54,996
Yeah, the arcade. Yes, for sure. I get it because that was kind of the first

476
00:30:54,996 --> 00:30:58,996
game in arcades, I think, that was kind of like more of a puzzle.

477
00:30:59,916 --> 00:31:04,376
It had a puzzle element to it and it was skill based on the trackball.

478
00:31:04,596 --> 00:31:05,656
Because you had a trackball.

479
00:31:06,036 --> 00:31:11,016
People don't know what a trackball is. It's essentially almost like a cue ball

480
00:31:11,016 --> 00:31:14,076
that you play when you're playing billiards or pool.

481
00:31:14,076 --> 00:31:17,576
And it's set in the the face where

482
00:31:17,576 --> 00:31:20,476
the buttons would be in arcade unit and it's just there and

483
00:31:20,476 --> 00:31:27,536
you literally use that to push move left and right and you had to be very precise

484
00:31:27,536 --> 00:31:32,696
in the arcade version of marvel madness i remember when they brought it to consoles

485
00:31:32,696 --> 00:31:36,156
it used the controller and i was kind of like cheating if you're lucky enough

486
00:31:36,156 --> 00:31:38,376
to go get the the trackball peripheral

487
00:31:38,636 --> 00:31:41,576
that made it way more arcade like

488
00:31:41,576 --> 00:31:45,196
but still not as challenging arcade and that

489
00:31:45,196 --> 00:31:48,136
was kind of the attraction to marble

490
00:31:48,136 --> 00:31:52,236
madness was the skill base and i remember guys going putting their quarters

491
00:31:52,236 --> 00:31:57,936
up in the arcade i was at peter piper pizza i think it was we used to go to

492
00:31:57,936 --> 00:32:01,276
there's people lined up just say i can get further than you because i got more

493
00:32:01,276 --> 00:32:05,036
skill and that was it was kind of weird because everybody's going for that was

494
00:32:05,036 --> 00:32:06,336
back in the days where everybody's going for high score.

495
00:32:06,836 --> 00:32:08,856
So, I get it. I get it.

496
00:32:10,176 --> 00:32:12,816
I don't have much to say, so I'm going to pass that one. 185,

497
00:32:13,016 --> 00:32:18,136
and I also think this ranked differently on the top 100, and that is Super Mario

498
00:32:18,136 --> 00:32:19,496
World 2, Yoshi's Island.

499
00:32:20,356 --> 00:32:22,336
I really liked Super Mario 2.

500
00:32:23,496 --> 00:32:26,936
I liked Yoshi's Island. I really did. I thought it was a little too neat.

501
00:32:27,816 --> 00:32:31,476
It was definitely made for, I think, a younger generation for sure.

502
00:32:32,056 --> 00:32:33,836
But I liked it. I don't have a problem with it being there.

503
00:32:34,716 --> 00:32:39,096
Yeah, actually, it didn't even make the top 100 so i was wrong on that moving

504
00:32:39,096 --> 00:32:44,056
fast that 184 you know i know this game fairly well but i don't know enough

505
00:32:44,056 --> 00:32:46,976
to talk about it i don't think we really have to i think people should look

506
00:32:46,976 --> 00:32:52,636
into some of these games themselves and this is 184 the playstation the classic vagrant story,

507
00:32:53,316 --> 00:32:59,736
oh so vagrant story i have a story i have a story about vagrant story okay i

508
00:32:59,736 --> 00:33:04,036
i think one of the the better games that square came out with on the PlayStation

509
00:33:04,036 --> 00:33:07,416
is kind of forgot about kind of like a Einhander same thing.

510
00:33:08,955 --> 00:33:12,375
But I already had a copy of this game and I loved it.

511
00:33:12,955 --> 00:33:17,355
And when KB Toy Store was closing down, I went in there. I was working on them

512
00:33:17,355 --> 00:33:19,655
all the time. And that's when I went in there and I bought.

513
00:33:19,795 --> 00:33:25,235
And I talked about this before. I bought all the Virtual Boys that they had

514
00:33:25,235 --> 00:33:27,915
in stock because they were selling them for $25 each.

515
00:33:28,655 --> 00:33:31,315
That's right. Nintendo pulled the plug on them. I was like, how many you got?

516
00:33:31,435 --> 00:33:33,095
We got four. I'll take them all, dude.

517
00:33:33,415 --> 00:33:36,035
He was like, what? I was like, dude, these things suck. And I was like,

518
00:33:36,055 --> 00:33:37,175
yeah, whatever, dude. Just give them to me.

519
00:33:37,675 --> 00:33:43,295
And i went in i went into their box that was by the register and it had all

520
00:33:43,295 --> 00:33:48,275
these clearance games and i found vagrant story original black because i think

521
00:33:48,275 --> 00:33:49,875
later on they came out with a green,

522
00:33:50,715 --> 00:33:57,115
label on it i'm not sure about that all i know is i found a sealed copy for five dollars.

523
00:33:58,855 --> 00:34:01,635
And yeah and back i mean it sounds awesome now but back

524
00:34:01,635 --> 00:34:05,215
then it was like nobody knew what vagrant story was so i bought it i still have it sealed never

525
00:34:05,215 --> 00:34:08,375
opened that one because i already had one now yeah now that

526
00:34:08,375 --> 00:34:11,855
one's starting to become highly sought after and

527
00:34:11,855 --> 00:34:14,575
i'm surprised uh square never did a sequel to

528
00:34:14,575 --> 00:34:18,795
vagrant story man that game was cool yeah i never got that either i know it

529
00:34:18,795 --> 00:34:21,915
had a solid enough following it didn't really go anywhere though after that

530
00:34:21,915 --> 00:34:26,395
first one so yeah but you know what today was retro being cool again who knows

531
00:34:26,395 --> 00:34:30,275
it probably do like a remake or you know what i mean it's one day and then the

532
00:34:30,275 --> 00:34:33,455
original one shoots up in price and i'm i'm all for it.

533
00:34:33,775 --> 00:34:39,655
There you go. This one, I'm sure you have something to say. So, 183, NFL 2K5.

534
00:34:41,115 --> 00:34:45,195
I'm calling it NFL 2K5 to this day, in my opinion.

535
00:34:45,695 --> 00:34:49,115
You gotta give us the original version, because we already have almost 40 minutes.

536
00:34:49,695 --> 00:34:53,855
Okay, I'll give you the quick version. In my opinion, the best football game

537
00:34:53,855 --> 00:34:57,255
ever made from the ground up. You had online play.

538
00:34:57,875 --> 00:35:02,915
When you did, it was more accurate than anything that was out there at the time. More fun to play.

539
00:35:02,975 --> 00:35:10,775
The presentation that Visual Concepts did on this game to this day has not been replicated. I'm sorry.

540
00:35:10,995 --> 00:35:14,275
You can try to debate me all you want. It hasn't.

541
00:35:14,435 --> 00:35:21,775
I still play this game on my original Xbox, and I'm just like wowed on the presentation that they do.

542
00:35:22,195 --> 00:35:25,135
Digital Chris Berman doing the halftime show, showing the highlights,

543
00:35:25,275 --> 00:35:29,595
all the stats, the commentator, the fact that you can do a play,

544
00:35:29,655 --> 00:35:33,855
and then you hit God, I think it's you hit down on the left stick or something like that.

545
00:35:33,955 --> 00:35:37,655
And you can look your person. You got first person football so you could play

546
00:35:37,655 --> 00:35:41,195
as alignment. It was fun to play as alignment and block the quarterback.

547
00:35:41,375 --> 00:35:45,295
And then you hit the down on the left stick or right stick, depending on your configuration.

548
00:35:45,835 --> 00:35:50,035
And your your character would look up at the Jumbotron and the Jumbotron was

549
00:35:50,035 --> 00:35:52,335
showing the replay. I mean, just like.

550
00:35:53,471 --> 00:35:56,331
Props of visual concepts on there and i hope to god

551
00:35:56,331 --> 00:35:59,751
when ea finally gets the

552
00:35:59,751 --> 00:36:02,571
nfl license is finally freed up and they have to do another

553
00:36:02,571 --> 00:36:09,091
one that they let other companies make an nfl game because the world needs visual

554
00:36:09,091 --> 00:36:13,491
concepts back in the football market dude yeah that would be that'd be pretty

555
00:36:13,491 --> 00:36:20,451
great man just and really quickly remind me wasn't that game released at at a MRSP of $20?

556
00:36:20,691 --> 00:36:26,351
It was $20. And that was the first time because NFL 2K was already selling very well.

557
00:36:26,571 --> 00:36:31,611
But it wasn't really multi-system. It was mostly on the Dreamcast at the time.

558
00:36:31,731 --> 00:36:34,731
But then when Sega started doing, okay, we're making PS2 games.

559
00:36:34,871 --> 00:36:37,971
I think that started in 2K3, 2K4, I think it was.

560
00:36:38,311 --> 00:36:44,571
But when 2K5 came out, they released the game for $20. It was.

561
00:36:45,431 --> 00:36:50,531
Oh, dude, we were selling I mean, we had diehard Madden people coming in and

562
00:36:50,531 --> 00:36:53,311
go, let me get that 2K. Why? Because it was 20 bucks.

563
00:36:53,571 --> 00:36:57,111
They were about to go blow it on some McDonald's or go to Chili's.

564
00:36:57,111 --> 00:36:58,731
You know what I mean? So it's like, why not?

565
00:36:58,811 --> 00:37:01,651
Stay home, save money, a great football game.

566
00:37:01,871 --> 00:37:09,431
And that's what brought a lot of people on board and helped NBA 2K become behemoth that it was.

567
00:37:10,630 --> 00:37:16,350
All right. 182. I know you probably have something to say about this,

568
00:37:16,410 --> 00:37:17,250
but give me the abridged version.

569
00:37:17,850 --> 00:37:20,890
182 Samurai Showdown, the Neo Geo 1993.

570
00:37:21,890 --> 00:37:26,150
Oh, man. Arcade Perfection, the presentation.

571
00:37:26,450 --> 00:37:31,910
You first start, and then the camera zooms in. That was the first time I ever seen a game.

572
00:37:32,770 --> 00:37:36,430
Remember that? Yeah, I forgot. And they start fighting, and

573
00:37:36,730 --> 00:37:40,590
then the camera will zoom in, and then when you spread out, the camera would

574
00:37:40,590 --> 00:37:45,050
zoom out and this was all 2D sprites dude this was not polygon this was sprite

575
00:37:45,050 --> 00:37:48,070
based and then your swords would come together and you would have to tap the

576
00:37:48,070 --> 00:37:50,430
swords and try to come unlocked and somebody would lose their sword

577
00:37:50,850 --> 00:37:54,530
and you had to go over it and try to pick it up because you were defenseless

578
00:37:54,530 --> 00:37:57,730
dude badass game and I gotta give props to,

579
00:37:59,230 --> 00:38:05,430
SNK on this in the Neo Geo arcade it had a lot of people don't know if you could

580
00:38:05,430 --> 00:38:09,630
find it you'll still see it but it had a headphone jack so you could pop your

581
00:38:09,630 --> 00:38:13,610
headphones in and listen to the stuff all by yourself. And I also had a memory card slot.

582
00:38:13,970 --> 00:38:19,010
So you can, if you had a Nintendo AES at home, you can take the memory card,

583
00:38:19,130 --> 00:38:22,270
say you're playing Metal Slug or whatever the case may be,

584
00:38:22,750 --> 00:38:27,290
or even some of the fighting games, a single player mode, and you can save it,

585
00:38:27,330 --> 00:38:30,510
take it to the arcade, pop it in, put your quarter in, and it would have the

586
00:38:30,510 --> 00:38:32,430
option, would you like to continue your game?

587
00:38:32,990 --> 00:38:35,790
Yes. And you would continue from whatever level you were on.

588
00:38:36,370 --> 00:38:37,530
That's pretty awesome, man.

589
00:38:39,270 --> 00:38:44,130
181 you know again this is a mega hit game everybody knows about it I feel like

590
00:38:44,130 --> 00:38:48,190
we're going to save this title a lot and that is Call of Duty Modern Warfare

591
00:38:48,190 --> 00:38:53,230
2 one of my favorites man is that your favorite Call of Duty,

592
00:38:54,489 --> 00:39:03,329
No. Okay. I would say Call of Duty 4 Modern Warfare. The first Modern Warfare

593
00:39:03,329 --> 00:39:04,069
was probably my favorite.

594
00:39:04,709 --> 00:39:07,669
Yeah, and that's what I want to say because I'm assuming it's going to be on

595
00:39:07,669 --> 00:39:10,529
this list. And when it's on that list, we can talk more about Call of Duty.

596
00:39:12,469 --> 00:39:17,109
180, I got to tell you, this is one of the games that I've owned on every single

597
00:39:17,109 --> 00:39:19,829
console. I will continue to buy it on every single console.

598
00:39:20,029 --> 00:39:25,729
And I will buy it if they remake it. I'll do whatever ever I can because i let

599
00:39:25,729 --> 00:39:31,349
me guess go ahead it's not metal gear let me guess laser suit larry,

600
00:39:32,309 --> 00:39:35,349
yeah exactly imagine if that game was on

601
00:39:35,349 --> 00:39:38,629
here it might be it might

602
00:39:38,629 --> 00:39:41,389
be you're right no this game oh my

603
00:39:41,389 --> 00:39:44,169
god it means the world to me when i played it

604
00:39:44,169 --> 00:39:47,509
it took things that i loved such as film noir and comic

605
00:39:47,509 --> 00:39:50,589
books and it made it into a game that you never it

606
00:39:50,589 --> 00:39:53,469
was just so ahead of its time storytelling of its time

607
00:39:53,469 --> 00:39:56,209
and they're still putting on games just as good as this

608
00:39:56,209 --> 00:39:59,309
one obviously much better that is the legendary

609
00:39:59,309 --> 00:40:02,309
original max pain yeah i know

610
00:40:02,309 --> 00:40:06,969
you're a huge max pain man yeah i i love that game i mean there's very few games

611
00:40:06,969 --> 00:40:11,529
have hooked me like that and that game man and then don't get me started about

612
00:40:11,529 --> 00:40:16,209
number two number two is my favorite that would max pain max pain 2 would probably

613
00:40:16,209 --> 00:40:20,309
be in my top 10 games of all time to be honest What do you feel about them doing the remakes?

614
00:40:21,349 --> 00:40:24,789
Well, they haven't released that yet, though, right? No, they said they're working

615
00:40:24,789 --> 00:40:28,289
on it. Yeah, it's coming. They're working on it, yeah. But here's what I don't know.

616
00:40:28,549 --> 00:40:31,009
Is Sam Lake involved again or no?

617
00:40:31,369 --> 00:40:33,509
I have no idea. I don't know.

618
00:40:34,189 --> 00:40:36,209
Because he's doing all the Alan Wake things right now, right?

619
00:40:37,089 --> 00:40:41,149
So I would be curious to see. That's one thing I actually really like about Alan Wake.

620
00:40:41,269 --> 00:40:45,869
In the first Alan Wake, when you're in one of the offices, If you look down,

621
00:40:45,989 --> 00:40:50,389
it actually put Max Payne in the universe and the book is in there,

622
00:40:50,429 --> 00:40:51,989
the Max Payne, Fall of Max Payne.

623
00:40:52,009 --> 00:40:54,609
It's the actual book in that universe.

624
00:40:55,614 --> 00:40:58,574
Nine have you did you did you get

625
00:40:58,574 --> 00:41:02,114
max pain 2 i mean not max pain 2 alan wake 2 i have

626
00:41:02,114 --> 00:41:06,414
not played it yet no okay well if you want the physical copy which i always

627
00:41:06,414 --> 00:41:10,994
i always push the physical over digital because you actually own it today's

628
00:41:10,994 --> 00:41:15,694
last day to get alan wake 2 physical copy from limited run who knows they might

629
00:41:15,694 --> 00:41:19,394
release it later on but today's last day but honestly i don't care.

630
00:41:21,034 --> 00:41:26,714
I'd rather wait till it's free on game best well there goes my whole physical

631
00:41:26,714 --> 00:41:31,114
copy thanks guys all right so that's it for retro gaming nomad everybody have a good day,

632
00:41:31,874 --> 00:41:40,794
yep all right here we go 179 nba jam yeah man yeah that's a great game uh well

633
00:41:40,794 --> 00:41:45,074
it i i gotta go ahead i'll let you go first i was just gonna say we did it me

634
00:41:45,074 --> 00:41:48,094
and mike actually did a whole episode on NBA Jam in our early days.

635
00:41:48,394 --> 00:41:51,234
So I don't want to get too much. I already said everything I had to say about

636
00:41:51,234 --> 00:41:53,174
NBA Jam, so I'm going to let you say what you got to say.

637
00:41:53,814 --> 00:41:58,214
So there was a bunch of different versions of NBA Jam. You, of course, had the arcade version.

638
00:41:58,434 --> 00:42:02,934
And then you had, at the time, the Super Nintendo version came out,

639
00:42:02,954 --> 00:42:05,074
and it was much closer to the arcade.

640
00:42:05,714 --> 00:42:09,954
And then they had the Genesis version, which anybody who played the Genesis

641
00:42:09,954 --> 00:42:13,214
version can tell you, it was much different.

642
00:42:13,214 --> 00:42:19,554
It was done by a different development team, and there was stuff in that game

643
00:42:19,554 --> 00:42:23,894
that you did not see in a SNES or arcade version.

644
00:42:25,394 --> 00:42:30,414
Mainly the size of the characters, their jumping abilities and their blocking abilities.

645
00:42:31,214 --> 00:42:35,014
And I gotta say, after playing the arcade version, SNES version,

646
00:42:35,154 --> 00:42:37,914
and the Genesis version, and this is not me being a say-good-bye-us guy,

647
00:42:37,994 --> 00:42:43,394
because I admit when I am, the Genesis version I thought was way more fun, dude.

648
00:42:44,114 --> 00:42:50,034
Okay. I believe you. Anybody who's played all three, they know exactly what I'm talking about, man.

649
00:42:50,114 --> 00:42:55,414
It was kind of NBA Jam extreme before NBA Jam Extreme came out.

650
00:42:55,894 --> 00:43:00,214
They took stuff that much more over the top, and I loved it.

651
00:43:00,914 --> 00:43:04,554
Yeah, my favorite version of NBA Jam is the Wii. No, I'm kidding, by the way.

652
00:43:07,434 --> 00:43:13,874
Could you imagine that? My favorite NBA Jam was the Wii version. Fired. Fired.

653
00:43:15,494 --> 00:43:18,054
Number 178. I don't really know a whole lot about this game.

654
00:43:18,114 --> 00:43:19,434
I do know it's loved by a lot of people.

655
00:43:19,754 --> 00:43:25,234
There were some great things when it came out, and that was That is Phoenix Wright, Ace Attorney.

656
00:43:26,114 --> 00:43:28,854
Yeah, Phoenix Wright, Ace Attorney. I get it.

657
00:43:28,974 --> 00:43:32,994
I couldn't get into the game because I'm not a reader, so I can't sit there

658
00:43:32,994 --> 00:43:36,234
and just listen to it, but I just remember people playing it,

659
00:43:36,294 --> 00:43:37,734
and you could hear, Objection!

660
00:43:38,334 --> 00:43:42,174
Objection! And I was like, that's got to be one of the quirkiest games,

661
00:43:42,294 --> 00:43:46,694
which is kind of weird because I like weird games like that and original games,

662
00:43:47,174 --> 00:43:51,754
but anything that has a lot of text to it, I typically don't play.

663
00:43:51,914 --> 00:43:54,794
And it's not because I don't find them interesting.

664
00:43:55,054 --> 00:43:58,314
I just... I'm not real good at comprehension when I read. I've always had that

665
00:43:58,314 --> 00:44:01,094
kind of... I don't want to call it a disability or anything like that.

666
00:44:01,154 --> 00:44:04,314
But it's just something that I'm not really good at.

667
00:44:04,334 --> 00:44:11,294
And I think it's somewhat of my slight dyslexia growing up.

668
00:44:11,354 --> 00:44:14,674
And I'm just not a reader, man. But if anybody...

669
00:44:15,987 --> 00:44:22,687
Is a reader and likes that kind of, it's kind of a strategy kind of reading law-based anime.

670
00:44:25,607 --> 00:44:28,947
It's called a, technically it's a visual novel, right? There you go. Yeah.

671
00:44:30,647 --> 00:44:33,287
And that's why whenever we talk about like comic books and stuff,

672
00:44:33,327 --> 00:44:36,107
I give it to you. Cause I'm like, I don't, I don't do that.

673
00:44:37,467 --> 00:44:40,927
Yeah. So, I mean, but, but it's a good game. Check it out. I mean,

674
00:44:40,927 --> 00:44:42,787
I definitely think people should check it out. I think it's fair.

675
00:44:42,847 --> 00:44:44,227
I think it's worth being on top 200.

676
00:44:44,727 --> 00:44:48,187
That's a good, you know what I mean? again i don't know if ape escape is better

677
00:44:48,187 --> 00:44:53,827
than that but whatever i'd probably say his attorney is phoenix right is is

678
00:44:53,827 --> 00:44:56,207
is probably better than i have to escape.

679
00:44:57,547 --> 00:45:01,807
That's so fucking funny these next three sir which i'm just gonna name them

680
00:45:01,807 --> 00:45:05,347
off and just move past them because we talked about them before and that is

681
00:45:05,347 --> 00:45:11,907
tekken 3 castlevania and dig dug 177 176 175 174 i'm gonna bring up because

682
00:45:11,907 --> 00:45:14,047
i know you probably have something to say about it I actually,

683
00:45:14,107 --> 00:45:16,687
I love this game, but I'm going to tell you this.

684
00:45:16,787 --> 00:45:19,647
When I played it, I played it when I was on the Game Boy Advance for the first time.

685
00:45:19,767 --> 00:45:22,267
And that is Gunstar Heroes. Oh.

686
00:45:22,967 --> 00:45:26,467
You played that on Game Boy? That was the first time I played it, yeah.

687
00:45:27,567 --> 00:45:30,567
Shame on you. Well, remember, I didn't have a Sega Genesis growing up.

688
00:45:30,687 --> 00:45:33,227
So when I got to play it, it was when it was released on that.

689
00:45:33,327 --> 00:45:37,687
And in fact, I think you sold it to me because, you know, I think I was at one

690
00:45:37,687 --> 00:45:38,567
of your stores when I was younger.

691
00:45:38,967 --> 00:45:43,247
And I think, if I remember correctly, I was looking at the box and you said,

692
00:45:43,287 --> 00:45:45,507
oh, that was one of the coolest games when you were growing up.

693
00:45:45,687 --> 00:45:49,307
Yeah. And they did a good job. They did a really good job on,

694
00:45:49,387 --> 00:45:53,387
I don't think it was, I don't know if it was M2 that did that one, the translation.

695
00:45:53,467 --> 00:45:58,147
But yeah, Gunstar Heroes on the Game Boy Advance, they did a really good job

696
00:45:58,147 --> 00:46:00,267
on that one and Guardian Heroes as well.

697
00:46:00,567 --> 00:46:05,307
Well, the Gunstar Heroes was Sega Genesis. Guardian Heroes was Sega Saturn.

698
00:46:05,307 --> 00:46:10,447
Both made original original versions both made by my all-time favorite development

699
00:46:10,447 --> 00:46:14,387
team treasure who was like kind of a spawned out of a konami.

700
00:46:15,924 --> 00:46:21,184
Still to this day my my favorite all-time favorite development team man i love

701
00:46:21,184 --> 00:46:27,204
it 173 this is a tricky one because this was this was in the top 100 and now

702
00:46:27,204 --> 00:46:28,904
it's not and that is a load runner,

703
00:46:30,004 --> 00:46:32,804
yeah yeah i we talked about load

704
00:46:32,804 --> 00:46:37,164
runner yeah i i played someone arcade yeah i had a big following but we can

705
00:46:37,164 --> 00:46:42,364
move on i i don't i didn't believe it was in the top deserve to be in the top

706
00:46:42,364 --> 00:46:50,444
100 at the time and this just proves me right so this went from 52 to 173.

707
00:46:52,424 --> 00:46:55,804
Yeah man again i think

708
00:46:55,804 --> 00:46:59,624
it comes the fact that these mfs got

709
00:46:59,624 --> 00:47:02,344
new consoles and said hey you know what there's a lot of

710
00:47:02,344 --> 00:47:05,904
shit out there that uh is better that's so

711
00:47:05,904 --> 00:47:08,664
funny 172 and you can dive

712
00:47:08,664 --> 00:47:12,384
into this really quickly because i know you got something to say ikaruga gamecube oh

713
00:47:12,384 --> 00:47:16,324
yeah what boom home they put on gamecube yeah

714
00:47:16,324 --> 00:47:19,124
exactly isn't that crazy i know that's why i said dude

715
00:47:19,124 --> 00:47:27,904
they put that that's a sega saturn absolute classic right there you can do it

716
00:47:27,904 --> 00:47:33,984
was it that wasn't sega saturn us though right no that's wow oh is that what

717
00:47:33,984 --> 00:47:37,944
they're doing top top 100 us U.S.? Yeah, everything's been U.S., dude.

718
00:47:38,604 --> 00:47:42,364
No, no, I'm saying the list that they're doing, it says top 100 U.S.?

719
00:47:42,364 --> 00:47:46,144
It doesn't say that, but I guess it's... No, they can kiss my ass.

720
00:47:46,404 --> 00:47:48,544
That's what they say. That's a Sega Saturn classic.

721
00:47:49,004 --> 00:47:52,844
Always has been. You could put your TV sideways in vertical,

722
00:47:52,984 --> 00:47:55,584
a.k.a. Tate mode on the Sega Saturn.

723
00:47:55,764 --> 00:47:58,164
The sprites on that game were absolutely incredible.

724
00:47:58,524 --> 00:48:01,984
You bring your... Get the little right button, right shoulder button on the

725
00:48:01,984 --> 00:48:04,964
Sega pad to bring out your sword. You could suck up the energy.

726
00:48:05,544 --> 00:48:12,024
Explode at two-player mode at the same time just 2d classic bullet hell shmup

727
00:48:12,024 --> 00:48:18,884
in my top five all time yeah i know you want to come to shmup yeah yeah number

728
00:48:18,884 --> 00:48:21,664
171 i just really started.

729
00:48:22,924 --> 00:48:27,104
Nintendo on that just this is that shows you again that shows you again they

730
00:48:27,104 --> 00:48:32,624
do not have sega freaking consoles man yeah but again but but i'm gonna have

731
00:48:32,624 --> 00:48:36,764
to i'm gonna have to be the judge on this one and I have to tell you it has

732
00:48:36,764 --> 00:48:40,964
to be because they're going with US launches I know it doesn't say that but

733
00:48:40,964 --> 00:48:42,044
that has to be what they're doing,

734
00:48:43,282 --> 00:48:46,442
We'll see. We'll see. Okay. All right. 171.

735
00:48:46,682 --> 00:48:50,522
I just started replaying this game actually on the PC because I never beat it.

736
00:48:50,582 --> 00:48:52,822
And that is the Rockstar Classic Bully.

737
00:48:53,742 --> 00:48:55,662
Yeah, I couldn't get into Bully. So I'm going to leave this one to you.

738
00:48:56,222 --> 00:48:59,002
Yeah, Bully, I really dig. It's basically just Grand Theft Auto,

739
00:48:59,162 --> 00:49:00,402
but for teenagers, right?

740
00:49:00,662 --> 00:49:05,482
You play a kid who's like a troublemaker, but he's like the bad boy.

741
00:49:05,542 --> 00:49:06,522
He's like the Fonzie, right?

742
00:49:06,622 --> 00:49:10,122
He's like the Fonz where it's like he's a bad boy, but he has a heart of gold,

743
00:49:10,202 --> 00:49:13,842
right? That kind of thing. but it has the classic rock star sense of humor.

744
00:49:14,322 --> 00:49:16,242
You know, if you play Grand Theft Auto, you know what I'm talking about,

745
00:49:16,662 --> 00:49:18,162
but it's more toned down.

746
00:49:19,262 --> 00:49:23,682
Really, the only thing that you couldn't do in that game anymore, I was replaying it.

747
00:49:23,742 --> 00:49:29,182
They're making a lot of jokes about gays, and I definitely know you can't do that no more. Yeah.

748
00:49:30,242 --> 00:49:34,062
I mean, look at what they did on GTA, Ballad of Gay Tony. You know what I mean?

749
00:49:34,582 --> 00:49:39,002
It just, it ain't happening no more. I will say on Bully, I got a good shout

750
00:49:39,002 --> 00:49:40,362
out to my coworker, Chloe.

751
00:49:41,362 --> 00:49:47,162
Who is the biggest bully fan that I know. So any release that they do of Bully, she buys.

752
00:49:47,802 --> 00:49:52,582
Usually multiple copies, even if they changed the box art and they did the PlayStation

753
00:49:52,582 --> 00:49:54,642
Greatest Hits version, she got it.

754
00:49:54,862 --> 00:49:59,422
I think even her password to get in the computer was something that had to do with Bully.

755
00:49:59,542 --> 00:50:03,562
So Chloe, if you're listening, props to you, biggest Bully fan I know.

756
00:50:04,442 --> 00:50:09,682
That's funny. 170, this was actually also in the top 100, and now it's not.

757
00:50:09,762 --> 00:50:15,562
We talked about it last time. and that is ridge racer yeah you know what i don't

758
00:50:15,562 --> 00:50:20,602
have a problem with it being a top 100 though ridge racer was one of the other

759
00:50:20,602 --> 00:50:23,282
than virtual racing it was one of the first polygonal,

760
00:50:23,882 --> 00:50:28,562
racing games and namco just knocked it out of the park man with a different

761
00:50:28,562 --> 00:50:33,082
you know the camera the helicopters coming above you i mean it gave it gave

762
00:50:33,082 --> 00:50:36,542
virtual racing obviously a run for its money it was it was like you know virtual

763
00:50:36,542 --> 00:50:40,342
racing on steroids if you will and then the big one at At the time,

764
00:50:40,362 --> 00:50:43,462
the arcade was Daytona and Ridge Racer held its own,

765
00:50:43,562 --> 00:50:46,122
man, because it was more of a single player racing game.

766
00:50:46,262 --> 00:50:50,862
And when it eventually came to the PlayStation for home, it was it was basically

767
00:50:50,862 --> 00:50:53,342
arcade perfect, man. I game's phenomenal.

768
00:50:53,662 --> 00:50:57,182
And the drifting, the drifting on the game was sick.

769
00:50:57,282 --> 00:51:02,202
And anybody who gets the PlayStation version, you got to go out and you know

770
00:51:02,202 --> 00:51:05,802
about this because I always, always freaking preach about this controller.

771
00:51:05,802 --> 00:51:09,442
You have to get the Namco Nedgecon controller.

772
00:51:10,604 --> 00:51:13,824
The greatest racing controller ever made.

773
00:51:13,984 --> 00:51:19,024
And we'll let's put a picture of it on our, on the, on the, on your, uh, uncle dad.

774
00:51:19,724 --> 00:51:24,804
Yeah. Cause it was, it was a controller that had like a little spin wheel in

775
00:51:24,804 --> 00:51:27,264
the middle and you would twist your controller left or right.

776
00:51:27,364 --> 00:51:32,464
And it was the first, first controller that had analog buttons for gas and brake

777
00:51:32,464 --> 00:51:35,564
and, and the shoulder buttons were analog as well.

778
00:51:35,624 --> 00:51:39,584
So it was fantastic for Ridge racer and it really worked well for wipeout.

779
00:51:39,584 --> 00:51:43,344
You beat anybody's time with this controller and it was almost like it was cheating,

780
00:51:43,444 --> 00:51:49,124
but it wasn't because when you plug the controller in, Ridge Racer and Wipeout

781
00:51:49,124 --> 00:51:51,424
recognize the Negicon controller,

782
00:51:51,664 --> 00:51:56,684
and it had the different screen that you can go to and modify the controller. Fantastic.

783
00:51:57,444 --> 00:52:02,464
But here's my thing, though. It went from 51 to 170.

784
00:52:04,064 --> 00:52:08,624
So they decided at this point that Ape Escape is still better.

785
00:52:09,844 --> 00:52:16,104
Fuck. I'm an ape escape, dude. When can I escape from ape?

786
00:52:16,564 --> 00:52:19,304
Well, I'm curious if it's on this list.

787
00:52:20,524 --> 00:52:22,804
It's probably like 400. I don't

788
00:52:22,804 --> 00:52:24,924
think it's going to be on this list anymore. I really don't think so.

789
00:52:25,524 --> 00:52:28,984
Alright, these next ones, we're going to kill them real fast.

790
00:52:30,304 --> 00:52:34,904
169, 168, 167. Braid. Tempest 2000. Jaguar.

791
00:52:35,444 --> 00:52:42,944
Doom 2. PC. oh i gotta say tempest 2000 jaguar is an incredible game man it

792
00:52:42,944 --> 00:52:48,404
is worth that one and and and alien versus predator worth the price of admission

793
00:52:48,404 --> 00:52:51,424
yeah i agree i absolutely agree those are great games,

794
00:52:52,784 --> 00:53:01,024
166 165 we don't have to talk about it and that is king's quest four five and peggle wow,

795
00:53:02,799 --> 00:53:07,259
I think that's wild. The Peggle's even on this list. But I'm more okay with it.

796
00:53:07,659 --> 00:53:11,639
I wouldn't even argue that Peggle's better than Ape Escape. It is better than Ape Escape.

797
00:53:15,159 --> 00:53:16,479
Everything's better than Ape Escape.

798
00:53:20,359 --> 00:53:23,819
Oh, man. Why? We'll get to that later. Anyways.

799
00:53:24,759 --> 00:53:31,659
I'd rather play Double Dragon with one button than play Ape Escape. I know.

800
00:53:34,259 --> 00:53:37,739
Uh 164 and 163 uh is

801
00:53:37,739 --> 00:53:40,859
x-com uh ufo defense but that's the original pc version

802
00:53:40,859 --> 00:53:44,739
i've never played that so which they re-released just recently yep but

803
00:53:44,739 --> 00:53:47,859
i never played the original 1993 release so i can't talk about it and

804
00:53:47,859 --> 00:53:54,279
the second one and 163 is robotron 2084 arcane classic oh yeah arcade classic

805
00:53:54,279 --> 00:53:59,199
right there dude robotron for sure arcade classic 162 and i gotta be honest

806
00:53:59,199 --> 00:54:04,079
with you this in my opinion is the weakest of the of the series and that is

807
00:54:04,079 --> 00:54:07,359
far cry the first one yeah,

808
00:54:07,979 --> 00:54:12,859
now do they say pc or console pc i know the pc is probably great yeah yeah the

809
00:54:12,859 --> 00:54:17,219
pc was different than the console the console version of far cry i think came

810
00:54:17,219 --> 00:54:21,999
out a little bit too late but i remember when the first far cry came out my

811
00:54:21,999 --> 00:54:27,199
friend elton got it and we saw it and that was Because at that time,

812
00:54:27,219 --> 00:54:33,999
the most beautiful first-person shooter game I've ever seen.

813
00:54:34,099 --> 00:54:35,999
The water, the jungle, everything.

814
00:54:36,239 --> 00:54:39,299
And I think it might have got on this list just because of that.

815
00:54:39,399 --> 00:54:44,599
Because it was shocking on how advanced their visuals were to anything that

816
00:54:44,599 --> 00:54:47,079
was out at the time. They really took it to the next level.

817
00:54:47,279 --> 00:54:49,579
And you can only play it on PC at that time because the consoles,

818
00:54:49,679 --> 00:54:50,999
there's no way they can handle them.

819
00:54:51,279 --> 00:54:55,279
And it didn't come out until later on. But for the series, I agree,

820
00:54:55,479 --> 00:55:00,619
and I think me and you both agree, that there's two Far Cries that stick out.

821
00:55:01,692 --> 00:55:05,272
I'm going to say one of them, and I know you know the other one. Far Cry 3.

822
00:55:06,472 --> 00:55:09,952
And you know the other one. I'm going to say Far Cry 5.

823
00:55:13,092 --> 00:55:18,152
Which one are you going to say? Tell me. Remember, it was the little expansion for Far Cry 3?

824
00:55:18,772 --> 00:55:21,572
No, but that doesn't count, because that's not an expansion. That's not the game.

825
00:55:21,912 --> 00:55:25,212
That kind of counts, dude, because they re-released it as its own.

826
00:55:25,532 --> 00:55:29,392
And it was 80s glory, dude. Come on. Yeah, Blood Dragon. Yeah,

827
00:55:29,472 --> 00:55:31,472
Blood Dragon's great. But I'm going to tell you this, man.

828
00:55:31,692 --> 00:55:35,492
Far Cry 3, I love, but I don't think it's the best. I think Far Cry 5 is the

829
00:55:35,492 --> 00:55:36,252
best, and I'll tell you why.

830
00:55:36,612 --> 00:55:40,832
Far Cry 3 is great the first half because of the villain, right?

831
00:55:41,952 --> 00:55:46,752
That villain is amazing. Vos, he is just... You've never seen somebody like

832
00:55:46,752 --> 00:55:49,272
that in a video game. At least not in a long time.

833
00:55:49,572 --> 00:55:53,152
And then when he's gone, the game's not that great anymore.

834
00:55:53,472 --> 00:55:57,492
I think the villain... Nobody remembers who the fuck that other villain is after

835
00:55:57,492 --> 00:55:58,212
that. You know what I mean?

836
00:55:58,732 --> 00:56:02,172
It's kind of weak. but Far Cry 5, have you played that? Have you beat it?

837
00:56:02,632 --> 00:56:06,452
I haven't beat it, no but it didn't grab me the way Far Cry 3 did Dude,

838
00:56:06,532 --> 00:56:08,452
Far Cry, you gotta give it another chance I think you should give it another

839
00:56:08,452 --> 00:56:12,112
chance I'll give it another shot, for sure Now that you said that,

840
00:56:12,172 --> 00:56:15,072
I will fight I've been kind of fiending to play a first person,

841
00:56:15,732 --> 00:56:18,232
shooter that's not Doom, that's not you know.

842
00:56:20,392 --> 00:56:27,812
That style just shmup I'm not shmup, but just like mindless shoot-em-up first-person

843
00:56:27,812 --> 00:56:32,052
shooter, so I'll give number five another shot, but I remember playing it.

844
00:56:32,112 --> 00:56:35,152
I put a couple hours into it and it didn't grab me that much,

845
00:56:35,172 --> 00:56:37,692
so I'm kind of surprised that you liked that one more than three.

846
00:56:38,610 --> 00:56:42,230
Too, because that game gets better the more you play it.

847
00:56:42,330 --> 00:56:44,870
Because I kind of agree with you. When I first started playing it,

848
00:56:44,990 --> 00:56:46,890
I don't think it really hooked me.

849
00:56:47,190 --> 00:56:51,230
But then the more and more you play it, and you learn about these different

850
00:56:51,230 --> 00:56:55,390
characters, and this main character, and the ending, the ending just makes it

851
00:56:55,390 --> 00:56:59,010
so worth it because it's kind of like a twist ending, and you're like,

852
00:56:59,110 --> 00:57:01,310
oh, fuck. You know what I mean?

853
00:57:02,470 --> 00:57:05,730
I would say that first statement that you made, I don't know, man.

854
00:57:05,850 --> 00:57:08,850
Could you do get a lot better in Far Cry 3? because you've got to remember,

855
00:57:08,970 --> 00:57:15,930
the whole Sambuca shots, you're partying with your boys, and then you're a scared little kid.

856
00:57:16,030 --> 00:57:21,190
By the end of Far Cry 3, you are a freaking badass, dude. You are missing for trouble.

857
00:57:21,990 --> 00:57:24,670
Yeah, but see, here's the thing. The gameplay wasn't my issue.

858
00:57:24,790 --> 00:57:27,230
That's not what I'm saying. It's the story that I have an issue with.

859
00:57:27,450 --> 00:57:31,470
No, let's talk about the character. I'm just talking about the character in general. Okay.

860
00:57:32,230 --> 00:57:36,790
Yeah, you're right. When the antagonist, the main, well,

861
00:57:36,890 --> 00:57:39,870
I wouldn't say the main one, one but yeah the one the one guy who does all

862
00:57:39,870 --> 00:57:42,510
the horrible stuff he does yeah i agree like after that it's like

863
00:57:42,510 --> 00:57:45,190
okay what am i doing yeah right i mean

864
00:57:45,190 --> 00:57:47,950
dude but far cry 5 when i said when i also when i say character and

865
00:57:47,950 --> 00:57:50,930
i guess i should have specified i meant that the villain the main

866
00:57:50,930 --> 00:57:56,370
villain he is so good and you know and the actor who plays it like you can just

867
00:57:56,370 --> 00:58:00,090
tell like because you know this one not far cry 3 they didn't do mocap yet like

868
00:58:00,090 --> 00:58:05,110
full-on mocap performances where this one it's a full-on mocap performance so

869
00:58:05,110 --> 00:58:08,650
you can tell that's a man acting and it's like Like, oh, man, it's so good.

870
00:58:08,730 --> 00:58:11,390
And again, that ending, I don't want to spoil it for anybody who hasn't played

871
00:58:11,390 --> 00:58:14,450
it, but the ending is just, it's insane.

872
00:58:14,810 --> 00:58:19,410
It's like everything you're doing and then the ending hits and you're like, whoa, what the fuck?

873
00:58:21,010 --> 00:58:25,050
And for those who aren't familiar with the term mocap, that means motion capture.

874
00:58:25,270 --> 00:58:29,470
So they actually take the characters, actors, put those little shiny balls on

875
00:58:29,470 --> 00:58:33,650
them and actually film them talking and stuff like that. So it looks way, way more realistic.

876
00:58:34,530 --> 00:58:38,970
Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. so they so next three we'll just power through

877
00:58:38,970 --> 00:58:46,690
these as well 161 is geometry wars ah geometry wars retro evolved 360 160 is

878
00:58:46,690 --> 00:58:53,090
thief the original pc classic 159 is the pc classic battlefield 1942,

879
00:58:54,150 --> 00:58:58,930
great game 158 as well we don't talk about because let's be honest everybody

880
00:58:58,930 --> 00:59:02,190
their whole mother and arguably this game should be in the top 50s that we're

881
00:59:02,190 --> 00:59:06,310
talking about performance or sorry uh like necessity in gaming, and that's Pong.

882
00:59:07,190 --> 00:59:13,170
Yeah, top 50 for sure. You can play Pong to this day and have fun with it. It's like Galaga.

883
00:59:14,070 --> 00:59:16,630
Yeah, it's like Galaga. It's virtual tennis...

884
00:59:17,753 --> 00:59:20,853
Alpha you know what i mean like it's it's it's the very very

885
00:59:20,853 --> 00:59:23,933
first kind of one-on-one i'm better

886
00:59:23,933 --> 00:59:26,813
than you at this ridiculous little sports game

887
00:59:26,813 --> 00:59:29,753
and it could still start fights

888
00:59:29,753 --> 00:59:34,673
to this day 100 100 157 is

889
00:59:34,673 --> 00:59:38,093
the ps2 classic devil may cry oh yeah

890
00:59:38,093 --> 00:59:41,373
which which a lot of people know this was supposed

891
00:59:41,373 --> 00:59:45,533
to be named resident evil yes yeah yeah

892
00:59:45,533 --> 00:59:48,153
it was well it was supposed to be the new kind of

893
00:59:48,153 --> 00:59:51,253
like revamp resident evil after resident evil

894
00:59:51,253 --> 00:59:54,073
was it three i think it was and then it was it was kind of

895
00:59:54,073 --> 00:59:56,893
like quiet for a while and then they were

896
00:59:56,893 --> 00:59:59,753
yeah if you look at the original if you find the original code for

897
00:59:59,753 --> 01:00:04,273
devil may cry it actually says re on it yeah it's crazy too because i actually

898
01:00:04,273 --> 01:00:08,193
vaguely remember that because i think a magazine was talking about it i think

899
01:00:08,193 --> 01:00:12,313
right well like there was magazines reporting on that dome that before that

900
01:00:12,313 --> 01:00:14,673
was called down by my cry that resident evil is going to be more action oriented

901
01:00:14,673 --> 01:00:18,373
right yep just like uh just like.

902
01:00:19,193 --> 01:00:21,933
Assassin's creed assassin's creed was was going to be

903
01:00:21,933 --> 01:00:25,753
prince of persia that's right yep yeah don't

904
01:00:25,753 --> 01:00:30,373
make cry i mean one of the best action games i think action horror games to

905
01:00:30,373 --> 01:00:34,373
ever come out i think the first the first two specifically the second one i

906
01:00:34,373 --> 01:00:39,113
think are just absolutely incredible then they remade it which was a cool remake

907
01:00:39,113 --> 01:00:44,153
called don't make cry but you know what i mean It became its own big-time franchise, right?

908
01:00:44,653 --> 01:00:47,173
Yeah, I was like, what? It was called DMC or something like that?

909
01:00:47,773 --> 01:00:51,793
Yeah, DMC. I didn't like two. I didn't like two. I loved one.

910
01:00:51,953 --> 01:00:54,053
I didn't like two. But I loved three.

911
01:00:55,033 --> 01:00:56,573
Dante's... No, I'm sorry.

912
01:00:57,516 --> 01:01:01,756
Or something like that, but I didn't care I got that mixed up,

913
01:01:01,816 --> 01:01:05,076
I'm sorry that's the one I really loved was the third one, sorry,

914
01:01:05,176 --> 01:01:10,756
because the second one was two discs and it sucked yeah, it was mediocre at

915
01:01:10,756 --> 01:01:12,396
best, they took a step back on that one,

916
01:01:14,236 --> 01:01:21,536
number 156 is the arcade classic, the original Gauntlet the original Gauntlet that's great badly.

917
01:01:24,036 --> 01:01:29,356
Oh my god, we threw so many quarters into that game in the arcade. Oh, my God. Tokens.

918
01:01:29,596 --> 01:01:32,716
That's the first time I learned what stringing is.

919
01:01:33,336 --> 01:01:38,216
So we would get a string or, at the time, my girlfriend's hair.

920
01:01:38,836 --> 01:01:42,756
She had really long hair, really long black hair, like went down to her butt.

921
01:01:43,096 --> 01:01:48,136
And anyways, we'd get her hair and we'd take some tape, tape her hair to a quarter

922
01:01:48,136 --> 01:01:51,356
and just gently slide it into the coin slot.

923
01:01:51,856 --> 01:01:54,856
And we'd hear it to where it registered. her and when you

924
01:01:54,856 --> 01:01:58,256
do that one it goes oh what did gauntlet say it

925
01:01:58,256 --> 01:02:02,216
didn't say anything i think it just went and i would

926
01:02:02,216 --> 01:02:05,056
sit there and just kind of flicker the the or trigger

927
01:02:05,056 --> 01:02:07,656
the the hair or her hair and it would go

928
01:02:07,656 --> 01:02:12,576
and we would put so many freaking credits in that thing man to try to finish

929
01:02:12,576 --> 01:02:15,976
it and i had all my friends because it's a four-player arcade game and then

930
01:02:15,976 --> 01:02:20,856
eventually we got busted and kicked out but i i just i just remember somebody

931
01:02:20,856 --> 01:02:25,416
would you'd play four players And it was like, oh, wizard, shut the food.

932
01:02:25,916 --> 01:02:28,976
And you're like, dude, what the fuck, man? You get all pissed off at everybody.

933
01:02:29,576 --> 01:02:36,136
And if nobody's played this, when it comes to Gauntlet, there was Gauntlet on the Sega Genesis.

934
01:02:36,776 --> 01:02:39,456
And I want to say it was called Gauntlet 4, maybe. Maybe.

935
01:02:40,583 --> 01:02:42,983
But it was essentially the arcade version, kind of on steroids,

936
01:02:43,183 --> 01:02:45,963
but it had a battle mode in there. Do you remember that?

937
01:02:46,663 --> 01:02:50,503
No, I don't, actually. Yeah, so you can hook up the four-player adapter to the

938
01:02:50,503 --> 01:02:56,963
Genesis, play four-player co-op, but it also had a battle mode on there, dude.

939
01:02:57,143 --> 01:03:00,523
And I would always choose the wizard because I'd freeze time,

940
01:03:00,923 --> 01:03:05,683
and I'd go up and just hack them with my staff because everybody chose the elf

941
01:03:05,683 --> 01:03:08,203
or the warrior, and I was like, dude, I'm going to jack you guys up,

942
01:03:08,223 --> 01:03:09,943
man. That was some fun, man.

943
01:03:10,583 --> 01:03:13,863
If you can find Gauntlet on the Genesis, it's pretty pricey.

944
01:03:14,203 --> 01:03:15,763
But four-player mode battle was fun.

945
01:03:16,883 --> 01:03:19,523
Well, you have a lot to say about that game. You have a lot to say about this

946
01:03:19,523 --> 01:03:23,143
next one. Also, I think what we're going to do here, sir, is we're already at an hour.

947
01:03:23,683 --> 01:03:27,523
So let's just make this in two parts as well. And we're going to go to 150,

948
01:03:27,863 --> 01:03:29,643
then we'll do the rest next episode. Sound good?

949
01:03:30,183 --> 01:03:32,243
Yeah, because when you told me we're going to go through 100,

950
01:03:32,463 --> 01:03:33,683
I was like, there's no way.

951
01:03:34,203 --> 01:03:41,703
There's no way we're going to go through 100 games in like 45 or 200 games. 45 minutes. No way.

952
01:03:43,343 --> 01:03:46,163
So we'll just go to 150 and then we'll stop there.

953
01:03:47,203 --> 01:03:49,443
Alright, so the next game though, I know you're going to have something to say

954
01:03:49,443 --> 01:03:54,323
because you were arguably the reason why that game sold so well at our store.

955
01:03:54,583 --> 01:04:00,023
And that is the Xbox 360 classic at number 155, Crackdown.

956
01:04:00,743 --> 01:04:03,543
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

957
01:04:04,563 --> 01:04:07,603
Crackdown, man. I used to tell everybody like, hey, you got to try this game.

958
01:04:07,723 --> 01:04:10,363
A lot of people bought it because I believe it came with a

959
01:04:10,363 --> 01:04:13,103
demo of halo i thought it

960
01:04:13,103 --> 01:04:15,963
i think was the only way around for halo yeah halo came

961
01:04:15,963 --> 01:04:18,683
with demo of crackdown that's right you're right and i

962
01:04:18,683 --> 01:04:21,543
was like dude this game's pretty badass man and i'm not

963
01:04:21,543 --> 01:04:24,263
a fan of really a big fan of third-person shooters but it

964
01:04:24,263 --> 01:04:27,083
was more of kind of an advanced adventure kind of shooter

965
01:04:27,083 --> 01:04:30,163
and i to this day think that it

966
01:04:30,163 --> 01:04:33,443
has one of the best targeting systems ever made

967
01:04:33,443 --> 01:04:36,463
on a third-person shooter so if

968
01:04:36,463 --> 01:04:39,303
nobody knows especially when you get like the sniper

969
01:04:39,303 --> 01:04:42,063
rifle so you'll get the sniper rifle and you can aim at

970
01:04:42,063 --> 01:04:44,883
somebody and it goes into first person mode but then you

971
01:04:44,883 --> 01:04:47,823
can use the d-pad to target the

972
01:04:47,823 --> 01:04:50,843
head the torso left arm right

973
01:04:50,843 --> 01:04:55,303
arm and i just thought that was ingenious so you would zoom in and say there

974
01:04:55,303 --> 01:05:00,043
was some guy who had who had a he was holding the bazooka in his right arm you

975
01:05:00,043 --> 01:05:04,883
zoom in you then hit the right d-pad and it would target his right arm and you

976
01:05:04,883 --> 01:05:08,223
would just snipe and that whole arm would just just

977
01:05:08,643 --> 01:05:13,463
fall off sometimes the weapon would explode and i was like man how come more

978
01:05:13,463 --> 01:05:18,263
people aren't more development teams aren't using this technique i thought it

979
01:05:18,263 --> 01:05:22,423
was awesome dude and then if you aim for the head remember the receptacle it

980
01:05:22,423 --> 01:05:25,843
would take a while for to really go to pinpoint headshot,

981
01:05:26,763 --> 01:05:32,543
that was that was badass dude yeah you know crackdown was one of those games that i remember um.

982
01:05:33,741 --> 01:05:39,241
I think that was developed by one of the original Grand Theft Auto developers, right? Yes.

983
01:05:39,981 --> 01:05:43,081
Yeah, and then he went on to do that before he went on, and then he left that

984
01:05:43,081 --> 01:05:45,081
to do APB, which I don't know why.

985
01:05:45,541 --> 01:05:50,741
But anyways, Crackdown, I really, really didn't get into at first.

986
01:05:50,861 --> 01:05:52,581
Even when you were talking about it, I really didn't get into it.

987
01:05:52,681 --> 01:05:56,581
I actually got more into it later in life when one day, actually not that long

988
01:05:56,581 --> 01:05:57,641
ago, I was like, you know what?

989
01:05:57,721 --> 01:06:00,461
I should really give this game a try because it's free on Game Pass.

990
01:06:00,461 --> 01:06:05,041
And I was like, man, this is this is such a solid game. Like, it's such a solid.

991
01:06:05,401 --> 01:06:09,001
But the thing is, Crackdown 2 was also pretty solid. But Crackdown 3,

992
01:06:09,121 --> 01:06:10,581
I did not give a shit about.

993
01:06:11,941 --> 01:06:16,361
I kind of it grew on me. So Crackdown 1, fantastic.

994
01:06:16,561 --> 01:06:20,441
Crackdown 2, they kind of got rid of the targeting system, which I was kind of pissed off about.

995
01:06:20,881 --> 01:06:24,381
At least they kind of did. You didn't use a D-pad anymore.

996
01:06:24,561 --> 01:06:28,521
You use your analog stick and you could still target. But it just wasn't as

997
01:06:28,521 --> 01:06:30,261
intuitive. It wasn't as accurate.

998
01:06:30,961 --> 01:06:35,841
But Crackdown 3, at first, I was like, okay, I see where they're going,

999
01:06:35,981 --> 01:06:38,861
more flashiness. But as I played it, it kind of grew on me.

1000
01:06:39,301 --> 01:06:43,201
And I love Terry Crews' character in it.

1001
01:06:43,761 --> 01:06:47,121
Yeah. No, he's great. He's great. Yeah, dude, I loved his character,

1002
01:06:47,221 --> 01:06:49,321
especially, like, later on when he started powering up.

1003
01:06:49,361 --> 01:06:52,041
He started saying stuff that he wasn't saying in the very beginning.

1004
01:06:52,481 --> 01:06:55,081
And I just liked that he had fun with it.

1005
01:06:55,581 --> 01:06:59,321
And to this day, I always wanted to meet Terry Crews so he could sign my copy

1006
01:06:59,321 --> 01:07:03,121
of Crackdown 3. because I personally think Crackdown 3 was an underrated game.

1007
01:07:03,261 --> 01:07:06,501
I don't think it was the greatest. I don't think it's the best of the Crackdown

1008
01:07:06,501 --> 01:07:11,541
series by far, but I thought it didn't get as much love as it should have.

1009
01:07:12,521 --> 01:07:20,861
For the Xbox One, including what was that one game where you I think you were on skates and...

1010
01:07:20,861 --> 01:07:24,061
Oh, Sunshine Overdrive? Yeah, dude, same thing, man.

1011
01:07:24,821 --> 01:07:29,341
Sunset Overdrive. Sunset Overdrive, yeah. I put in the same thing as Sunset

1012
01:07:29,341 --> 01:07:32,101
Overdrive. I don't think it got the props it should have. It was a fun game.

1013
01:07:32,841 --> 01:07:35,861
Yeah, you know, Crackdown in general, I think if you're going to put any Crackdown

1014
01:07:35,861 --> 01:07:39,561
on the top 200 list, it should be the first one, right? But think about this.

1015
01:07:40,461 --> 01:07:42,881
Ape Escape is still better than Crackdown.

1016
01:07:45,661 --> 01:07:51,161
Let's end it on that note. We still got five more. I want to go to 150. Okay, okay.

1017
01:07:52,661 --> 01:07:53,941
So we're going to go to 150 here.

1018
01:07:55,461 --> 01:07:58,461
If they got Ape Escape above of like toe jamming

1019
01:07:58,461 --> 01:08:03,581
or all i'm fucking losing my shit dude 154 this

1020
01:08:03,581 --> 01:08:06,681
is another one you're probably gonna think it's controversial for me i actually

1021
01:08:06,681 --> 01:08:09,661
think it's one of the most overrated ps3 games or sony games

1022
01:08:09,661 --> 01:08:13,581
of all time it's cool i know what it did like technology wise i know what it

1023
01:08:13,581 --> 01:08:17,181
did as far as like creative wise i think you're i think you liked it a lot and

1024
01:08:17,181 --> 01:08:22,521
that's awesome i just think they made way too many of them and it inspired too

1025
01:08:22,521 --> 01:08:27,101
much and in my opinion it's It's the first one's the only one that's okay.

1026
01:08:27,461 --> 01:08:28,921
And that is a little big planet.

1027
01:08:30,510 --> 01:08:34,630
I would probably agree with you on that one. Really? I thought you would disagree.

1028
01:08:35,510 --> 01:08:41,010
No, because I agree. LittleBigPlanet was cool. I never really did like their jumping mechanics.

1029
01:08:41,350 --> 01:08:44,810
I hated it. I hated the jumping mechanics. Yeah, I didn't like it.

1030
01:08:44,890 --> 01:08:49,290
I thought number two was good because of the whole, the way you can make your

1031
01:08:49,290 --> 01:08:51,050
own game, your own levels and stuff.

1032
01:08:51,430 --> 01:08:56,390
And I thought that added a lot to it. For those who weren't able to dig deep into it,

1033
01:08:56,390 --> 01:08:59,230
it i i highly recommend you go back because it's

1034
01:08:59,230 --> 01:09:02,310
it's it's a little bit easier to play and then that

1035
01:09:02,310 --> 01:09:06,070
spawned the game uh i don't know if you ever picked up dreams for ps4

1036
01:09:06,070 --> 01:09:09,030
where you can actually literally develop your

1037
01:09:09,030 --> 01:09:13,350
own game and that's kind of spawned from little big planet 2 when they first

1038
01:09:13,350 --> 01:09:17,010
kind of dabbled in that it was a great idea but if you don't have a keyboard

1039
01:09:17,010 --> 01:09:22,270
and mouse trying to program it with a controller is just impossible yeah i mean

1040
01:09:22,270 --> 01:09:26,590
i'm not gonna hate on that It was fun. It was fun, but.

1041
01:09:29,250 --> 01:09:32,770
There's definitely better out there. It Takes Two is one that comes to my mind

1042
01:09:32,770 --> 01:09:34,610
right away. Oh, sure, sure.

1043
01:09:35,610 --> 01:09:38,550
153? I don't think we're talking about this because it's an arcade classic,

1044
01:09:38,670 --> 01:09:41,810
and that is Asteroids. Yeah. Yeah.

1045
01:09:42,942 --> 01:09:46,062
Still in my opinion one of the best music

1046
01:09:46,062 --> 01:09:49,182
if you want to call it a soundtrack because it

1047
01:09:49,182 --> 01:09:53,002
was making jaws you know what i mean it was like no no no and

1048
01:09:53,002 --> 01:09:55,662
it was and it's got but dude if you ever played the

1049
01:09:55,662 --> 01:10:00,562
arcade it was so loud yeah it was so loud like it didn't matter where you were

1050
01:10:00,562 --> 01:10:05,322
in the bowling alley man you can hear freaking asteroids going off it was crazy

1051
01:10:05,322 --> 01:10:13,102
and i love the tabletop version yeah 152 I believe you I think you and I share this in common also,

1052
01:10:13,922 --> 01:10:17,662
before I even say this game I'm going to say this game and then I want you to

1053
01:10:17,662 --> 01:10:23,462
keep in mind that Ape Escape is higher than this game and this game is Xeno

1054
01:10:23,462 --> 01:10:27,502
Saga Episode 1 oh my god oh,

1055
01:10:29,482 --> 01:10:36,582
my god and Ape Escape is still beating it as of right now right right? Oh, my God.

1056
01:10:39,382 --> 01:10:45,322
Xeno Saga, in my opinion, is one of the coolest RPGs I ever played back in the day. I agree.

1057
01:10:46,302 --> 01:10:50,022
You know, it was so unique. And then I think there were three of them, right?

1058
01:10:50,662 --> 01:10:53,062
There were three and a bunch of little like spin-off ones, too.

1059
01:10:53,122 --> 01:10:57,942
Yeah. Yeah. That was a game I remember we would get here and there at the shop.

1060
01:10:58,182 --> 01:11:00,662
And I remember people would always be like, oh, man, I love this.

1061
01:11:01,802 --> 01:11:05,602
To be honest, I haven't played that probably since those days but i remember

1062
01:11:05,602 --> 01:11:09,842
it being it wasn't it wasn't real time or was it the turn base i can't remember

1063
01:11:09,842 --> 01:11:14,842
it was kind of both it depends it depend on yeah it depend on the scenario that

1064
01:11:14,842 --> 01:11:19,182
you're in yeah yeah one of the first games that actually do that actually,

1065
01:11:19,682 --> 01:11:22,222
i see i thought so too because i was thinking about that as well i was like

1066
01:11:22,222 --> 01:11:25,302
i'm pretty sure like they did that before final fantasy did that with final

1067
01:11:25,302 --> 01:11:30,662
fantasy 10-2 where they had that weird hybrid thing yeah yeah but great game

1068
01:11:30,662 --> 01:11:33,562
i think there's a collection right or no yeah,

1069
01:11:34,802 --> 01:11:35,902
Xenosaga 1 and 2,

1070
01:11:37,282 --> 01:11:42,202
I don't know if they added 3 and like I said they did a couple of spin-offs

1071
01:11:42,202 --> 01:11:46,802
I don't, off the top of my head I can't remember exactly what they were but

1072
01:11:46,802 --> 01:11:49,662
I mean they even did like re-release it for like the Switch,

1073
01:11:50,522 --> 01:11:55,022
as a collection but yeah Xenosaga and then they Xenogears.

1074
01:11:56,502 --> 01:12:02,002
Great games man great games number 151 to be honest Honestly,

1075
01:12:02,122 --> 01:12:03,562
again, this is how I feel.

1076
01:12:03,682 --> 01:12:08,642
Very overrated. Overrated game, but I do understand the importance of it. And that is Fable.

1077
01:12:10,499 --> 01:12:15,059
I think Fable's overrated, man. That's what I'm saying. I think Fable's very

1078
01:12:15,059 --> 01:12:17,639
overrated. But I do understand. I completely agree.

1079
01:12:18,299 --> 01:12:21,899
Yeah. I completely agree. And I know a lot of people love Fable,

1080
01:12:21,959 --> 01:12:23,639
Fable 2, and eventually Fable 3.

1081
01:12:24,259 --> 01:12:27,479
I just thought they were overrated. It's a classic case of Peter Molyneux,

1082
01:12:27,599 --> 01:12:32,859
the developer, who over-promised and under-delivered.

1083
01:12:33,299 --> 01:12:38,359
Always. On almost everyone. And then topped it off. Remember when the Xbox One

1084
01:12:38,359 --> 01:12:40,839
came out and it had the Kinect?

1085
01:12:41,339 --> 01:12:46,099
Oh, yeah, dude. I'll never forget that. That Milo game that he was promoting?

1086
01:12:46,759 --> 01:12:51,019
Yeah. And it was all the future. Milo, you can hand him a piece of paper and

1087
01:12:51,019 --> 01:12:52,979
he brings it into the game and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

1088
01:12:53,119 --> 01:12:54,959
Yeah, never came true. Never happened.

1089
01:12:55,419 --> 01:13:00,099
Another classic Peter Molyneux moment. And I got a signature.

1090
01:13:00,219 --> 01:13:02,799
I have a signature on Fable 3.

1091
01:13:03,399 --> 01:13:07,859
Oh, wow. I wasn't in person to get it. I got to admit, because I think if I

1092
01:13:07,859 --> 01:13:11,999
was, I probably would have told him, is this one going to live up to your promises?

1093
01:13:12,219 --> 01:13:17,099
Because I just, they were okay to me. They were just okay.

1094
01:13:17,939 --> 01:13:21,279
Yeah, I agree with you. And then I know that they just announced the new Fable,

1095
01:13:21,299 --> 01:13:24,679
or the Fable remake, right? But he's not going to be involved in that anymore.

1096
01:13:25,579 --> 01:13:30,099
Thank God. Maybe whoever did. Maybe it'll be good. Exactly. Exactly.

1097
01:13:30,819 --> 01:13:32,699
So, we'll end it here at 150.

1098
01:13:33,719 --> 01:13:36,599
I've actually never played this game, but I think you have so hopefully

1099
01:13:36,599 --> 01:13:40,079
it was good the good things to say so we could end off on a good note and yeah

1100
01:13:40,079 --> 01:13:45,219
ending at 150 for this part of the episode of game informers top 200 of 2009

1101
01:13:45,219 --> 01:13:50,699
that is act razor on the super nintendo i did play a little bit of act razor

1102
01:13:50,699 --> 01:13:54,599
not a lot of it and i gotta say it's still better than ape escape.

1103
01:13:58,780 --> 01:13:59,700
That's how you got the episode,

1104
01:14:03,620 --> 01:14:06,200
well do you know is there anything you can say about it because i really don't know

1105
01:14:06,200 --> 01:14:09,020
much about it at all no man i just i i played

1106
01:14:09,020 --> 01:14:12,460
a little bit at my friend's house i think it was my friend marvin's house but

1107
01:14:12,460 --> 01:14:16,240
a little bit act razor everybody else was kind of into it at the time so i didn't

1108
01:14:16,240 --> 01:14:21,180
get a lot of gameplay i'm sure it's great i really can't i really can't remember

1109
01:14:21,180 --> 01:14:25,520
too much on act razor i did have fun i know i had fun with it but it wasn't

1110
01:14:25,520 --> 01:14:27,480
something that i was like oh i I got to go out and,

1111
01:14:27,480 --> 01:14:33,040
you know, get the system specifically for this game or make me want to buy the game at all.

1112
01:14:33,160 --> 01:14:36,500
But I know there's a big falling for ActRaiser, so I respect it.

1113
01:14:36,960 --> 01:14:38,420
So you think it deserves to be on the list?

1114
01:14:38,960 --> 01:14:40,980
At what number? 150.

1115
01:14:42,160 --> 01:14:50,320
I'm going to probably going to default to their list only because I can't really

1116
01:14:50,320 --> 01:14:52,280
say yay or nay on that. Gotcha.

1117
01:14:53,260 --> 01:14:55,720
But you would agree it's definitely better than Ape Escape.

1118
01:14:56,700 --> 01:14:59,460
The little bit that I played was better than Ape Escape, for sure.

1119
01:15:01,200 --> 01:15:04,440
That's so funny. Yeah, so we're already at hour 20, so we'll end it here,

1120
01:15:04,500 --> 01:15:06,440
guys. So you don't have to sit here and listen for another hour.

1121
01:15:06,620 --> 01:15:08,240
We'll bring up the next episode soon.

1122
01:15:08,560 --> 01:15:11,260
But yes, we made it to 200 to 150.

1123
01:15:11,740 --> 01:15:17,040
Who will be 150 to 1? I'm kind of doing a school through, and I can tell you,

1124
01:15:17,120 --> 01:15:20,720
you're going to be limited when we get to top 50.

1125
01:15:21,120 --> 01:15:25,140
I probably will, because we still haven't said Musha yet.

1126
01:15:26,199 --> 01:15:31,079
Remind me of that one? It's a shoot-em-up on Sega Genesis. One of the best shoot-em-ups ever, dude.

1127
01:15:31,779 --> 01:15:35,439
Dude, you know that's not going to be on there. It better freaking be on there,

1128
01:15:35,499 --> 01:15:36,799
dude. Musha better be on there.

1129
01:15:37,139 --> 01:15:41,159
We haven't said Space Harrier yet. We haven't said Alien vs.

1130
01:15:41,699 --> 01:15:42,559
Predator or Sidescroller.

1131
01:15:43,379 --> 01:15:45,239
Dude, well, here's my thing, too. You're talking about shooters.

1132
01:15:46,279 --> 01:15:49,779
What about, like you brought it up earlier, Einhander? That should be on there, I think.

1133
01:15:50,719 --> 01:15:54,739
What the hell's Einhander at? Yeah, well, it's not better than Ape Escape.

1134
01:15:54,739 --> 01:15:57,459
Here all right and we said we do we

1135
01:15:57,459 --> 01:16:00,359
talk about our type yet no but in the in the

1136
01:16:00,359 --> 01:16:03,059
top 100 it wasn't the top 75 okay there we

1137
01:16:03,059 --> 01:16:09,859
go okay that one never that might change now so it may change for sure it may

1138
01:16:09,859 --> 01:16:15,139
change but uh until next time everybody please be sure to follow us on instagram

1139
01:16:15,139 --> 01:16:19,839
that it's at uncle dad talks and of course at retro gaming nomad you've got

1140
01:16:19,839 --> 01:16:22,039
to go follow us because Because there's lots of great content on there.

1141
01:16:22,119 --> 01:16:26,779
And of course, we also do the main show, Uncle Dad Talks, hosted by myself and just Mike.

1142
01:16:27,319 --> 01:16:30,579
Just to throw this out there, this will come out on a Tuesday or Wednesday.

1143
01:16:30,779 --> 01:16:35,119
And when this comes out, me and Mike will be at San Diego Comic-Con 2024.

1144
01:16:35,419 --> 01:16:40,839
If you guys are there and you see our booth, we'll be there with the Bart Bridge booth at booth 1619.

1145
01:16:41,179 --> 01:16:46,439
Come by, say hello, and grab some dope hats. I mean, you would agree,

1146
01:16:46,559 --> 01:16:47,679
right, sir? They're good dope hats.

1147
01:16:48,639 --> 01:16:51,679
Dope, dope, dope hats. and they have a little slot for your business card.

1148
01:16:51,779 --> 01:16:52,879
I do have to bring something up, though.

1149
01:16:53,199 --> 01:16:57,939
One of the games that we brought up, I think you said Ikaruga on GameCube, right?

1150
01:16:58,559 --> 01:17:04,079
Yes. Okay, my bad. I was thinking Radiant Silvergun on the Sega Saturn.

1151
01:17:05,539 --> 01:17:09,679
Ikaruga came out on the Dreamcast. Yeah, that's what I remember,

1152
01:17:09,799 --> 01:17:11,679
and that's why you said Sega Saturn. I was like, oh, interesting.

1153
01:17:11,759 --> 01:17:14,719
I'm thinking of Radiant Silvergun. Ikaruga, so let's correct that.

1154
01:17:15,059 --> 01:17:19,719
Ikaruga, my bad, guys, is like the spiritual successor to Radiant Silvergun,

1155
01:17:19,899 --> 01:17:21,499
So I'm thinking of Radiant and Silvergun on the Sega Center.

1156
01:17:22,399 --> 01:17:26,819
Ikaruga Dreamcast. But, but, nonetheless, they should have put the Dreamcast version.

1157
01:17:27,279 --> 01:17:32,959
They should have, because it was also what the arcade was based on. So shame on them.

1158
01:17:33,579 --> 01:17:37,039
Shame on them indeed. Again, they didn't have a Sega console, obviously.

1159
01:17:37,539 --> 01:17:41,639
I can't wait, because I'm looking at this right now, and I can't wait for us

1160
01:17:41,639 --> 01:17:43,639
to do this one, because you are going to lose your shit on some of these.

1161
01:17:43,719 --> 01:17:47,719
Because some of the ones that were originally higher up are now farther back.

1162
01:17:48,139 --> 01:17:51,859
And some of those ones meant a lot to you so we'll see you're in for a treat

1163
01:17:51,859 --> 01:17:56,179
my friend remind me to take an aspirin,

1164
01:17:57,159 --> 01:18:00,419
i don't have i don't have a heart attack and have like a defibrillator around

1165
01:18:00,419 --> 01:18:04,879
or something yeah i definitely will all right everybody i remember peace love

1166
01:18:04,879 --> 01:18:08,119
game on and we'll see you all probably next week for this one we'll keep this

1167
01:18:08,119 --> 01:18:13,479
going we'll try to get the series out quicker so we'll see you all uh next week bye.

1168
01:18:15,280 --> 01:18:35,384
Music.