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TGP Episode 9: Metal Gear Games

TGP Episode 9: Metal Gear Games

Welcome to a bi-weekly podcast journey that takes a deep dive into the Metal Gear series with The Game Papas, Uncle Dad, and the Retro Gaming Nomad. This nostalgic expedition explores the different versions of the game, the personal experiences of th...

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Welcome to a bi-weekly podcast journey that takes a deep dive into the Metal Gear series with The Game Papas, Uncle Dad, and the Retro Gaming Nomad. This nostalgic expedition explores the different versions of the game, the personal experiences of the hosts, and all things Metal Gear. With in-depth discussions into renowned classics from the franchise like Metal Gear Solid 3 Snake Eater, and an insightful look into the enigmatic mastermind behind Metal Gear, Hideo Kojima, this episode is a feast for gaming enthusiasts and casual listeners alike.

The discussion navigates through an elaborate review of the series, dissecting the cinematic elements and mechanics, and highlighting the undeniable impact of Metal Gear on the gaming landscape. The hosts tap into an archive of personal anecdotes, a myriad of appreciations and criticisms, and a shared love for gaming that enhances the conversation.

The overview extends beyond the primary Metal Gear Solid 5, delving into the spin-offs on Game Boy Color and PSP, and presenting a unique perspective into Metal Gear Acid, along with an exclusive chat about the legendary screenwriter and Solid Snake's voice actor, David Hayter. The episode rounds off with reflections on the franchise’s online zombie shooter entry and hopes for a reboot that remains true to the series' roots.

This episode also teases out the meticulous details and hidden tricks of the series. From the controller switch trick in Metal Gear Solid 1 to beat Psycho Mantis, to the old sniper boss dying off due to age, the hosts explore these subtle yet distinctive elements. They delve into the less known aspects like Metal Gear Solid Integral, the Japanese-only release with extra content, and the Document of Metal Gear Solid 2 that provides an in-depth analysis of the game's creation, script, and character models.

Despite the ardent affection for the series, some controversial elements are broached - like receiving a strange memento of Hideo Kojima's hair in the collector's edition of Metal Gear Solid 2. The episode concludes with a heartfelt tribute to the 20th-anniversary edition of Metal Gear Solid 3, with eager anticipation of the upcoming remake, "Metal Gear Solid 3 Delta".

Be sure to follow your hosts on Instagram: @UncleDadTalks // @RetroGamingNomad

Chapters

00:27 - Introduction and Welcome to The Game Papas

02:21 - Surprise Metal Gear Game Reveal

03:22 - Revolver Talks A Lot: Unique Storyline of Metal Gear Solid 3

03:51 - Repackaging Metal Gear Solid: Money Grab or Necessity?

06:21 - The Elusive Snake Eater Vinyl: A Collector’s Dream

06:51 - Metal Gear Solid: The Many Remakes and Collections

08:00 - Metal Gear Solid: A Series with Many Iterations

16:32 - Boktai: A Unique Game Boy Advance Experience

18:35 - Metal Gear Solid: A Theatrical and Involved Story

20:55 - Keeping Options Open in the Gaming Industry

24:57 - Art style changes in Metal Gear Solid series

27:48 - Praising ”Watchmen” movie and series

29:25 - Metal Gear Solid V: Weakest in the Series

32:34 - Reflections on Aging and Pop Culture References

32:46 - Nostalgic Memories of Metal Gear Solid

36:19 - The uniqueness of the Metal Gear Solid book

37:15 - Metal Gear Solid Convention Kickstarter Announcement

45:29 - Evolution of Skateboarding and Metal Gear Love

Transcript
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Music.

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Hello, everyone. Welcome to this week's bi-weekly episode of The Game Papas.

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I'm Uncle Dad, and with me, as always, is the Retro Gaming Nomad. What's up, man?

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Cheers! Hello, everybody. Welcome back. Welcome back.

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Welcome back. Oh, that's pretty good. That's pretty good. A little welcome back, Kata.

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Yeah, man. man. Every time I hear that, I actually did that one of our Uncle

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Dad Talks episode where Mike came back from being gone so long and I put the

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fucking welcome back theme in there.

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Did it take him back? It took him forward. Did he start talking like John Travolta?

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Oh yeah, he's in that, huh? Yeah, that was the first shit, dude.

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Wow, I forgot about that. But speaking of old school things,

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we are talking about today's subject which is near

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and dear to my heart well sort of metal gear

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those can't see because we're not video is is

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retro gaming nomad putting his metal

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gear in my face yeah so what

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i'm gonna do is i got a bunch of games here because

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uncle dad's definitely one of the

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biggest metal gear fans i know and we always

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have a joke every year because he's like no dude snake's dead metal

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gear's over with and i was like no it's never dead they're gonna

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bring it back and they are gonna milk that teat

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until it's dry and guess what they're gonna do after that they're gonna

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make powdered milk and they're gonna bring it back again and then after the

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powder milk goes spoiled guess what they're gonna get they're gonna get some

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similac and they're gonna remix it and they're gonna bring it back in it will

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never die snake will never die so while he's talking i am gonna put up to to

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the camera. You guys can't see.

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I'm going to put up to the camera a Metal Gear game, and he doesn't know this,

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and I wanted him to say a little something about it.

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Okay, we're just going to do that right now? Well, no, go ahead with your intro, Metal Gear.

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Okay, so Metal Gear Solid celebrates, sorry, Metal Gear Solid 3 Snake Year will

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celebrate its 20th anniversary this year.

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A lot of people consider 3 or 2 to be the best.

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Personally, I think 3 is the best one because it was a prequel to the franchise,

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which gets very confusing.

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And to be honest with you, I do not want, and Retro, you tell me too,

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I really don't want to dive into the plot lines overall because it's going to

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make no sense and we're going to be confused.

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You can't. Yeah, we don't have enough time on this podcast.

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I think by the time we're done explaining the entire story, which I don't even

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know anymore, these people will probably die themselves.

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Either starvation if they listen to us or they'll turn into freaking mummy dust.

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Because who knows? Everybody's everybody's mom. Everybody's a clone of somebody

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else. Who knows? You might be a solid snake.

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I don't know. And you're a naked snake.

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I'm Revolver Talks A Lot. That's what I am. I didn't put a little rim shot in there.

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Yeah, so Metal Gear Solid 3 in my opinion had one of the most unique storylines

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that took place during the Cold War.

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You kind of see what Solid Snake is... Not Solid Snake. At that time he was Naked Snake, right?

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That's the thing. Naked Snake.

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So he's currently holding up Metal Gear Solid 3 Snake Eater.

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And, you know, to kind of talk about Metal Gear Solid 3, or all Metal Gears,

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what is the deal with them always repackaging it with a special edition basically later?

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What is your thoughts on that? Because why not? It's a money grab.

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That's a money grab, bro. Those are money grabs for sure.

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For sure they are. I just showed you Metal Gear Solid 3 Snake Eater.

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And then one of the things I

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just posted on my Instagram is the not-so-well-known Merely Good Solid 3D.

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Snake Eater. Yeah. And then you also have...

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Which Konami had to release that little... Remember that little attachment to

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the 3DS? It had a second analog stick?

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That's right! Oh my god, I forgot about that. That was for this game.

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And you had to... You can go to Konami's official site and actually get it.

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So you can control the camera and stuff, man. Yeah.

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That's right. Wow, I forgot about that. So on the subject of Snake Eater,

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we have Snake Eater 3D, Snake Eater, the original release.

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You have Snake Eater Subsistence, I think it's called.

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That's the one they repackaged. And there's two versions of that version as well.

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You have the Snake Eater Subsistence Standard Package, which comes with,

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I think, the game, extra shit, and then, I think, Metal Gear 1 and 2,

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like Metal Gear for the NES.

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And then I believe it also came came with like extra scenes but then there's

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another version of that version that comes with a dvd that's the entire cut

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scenes into one dvd yeah because i didn't do that because i have

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well no i'll let you go on with metal gear solid 3 because i got this other

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one here with two but uh i'll let you go so metal gear solid 3 just had a bunch of versions,

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one of the things mr no man that i have wanted my entire

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life and i know don't have and i

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want it so bad is the metal it was for e3

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back when they did it and it was an e3 exclusive

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vinyl of the metal gear solid theme song snake eater it was like a james bond

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type theme song i'm sure you remember if you heard it you would know it but

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it was like one of the most beautiful things in the medical universe and they

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made a full-size lp vinyl that had one song on it and that was the,

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and that was the Snake Eater theme song.

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You can buy it online on eBay, probably like $200, $300, but if I could ever

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find one in the wild, man, I want that so bad.

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So fucking bad. They're not going to do a repressing of it?

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They never did. They never did. And it's weird because you know that would sell,

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right? Like that would totally sell.

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Well, yeah. And the fact that they re-released Metal Gear Solid 3 17 times and

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they can't do the vinyl twice?

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Like, come on. It's too expensive.

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You know, and it's funny because when you think about Metal Gear,

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and you think about Metal Gear Solid 3, not only is there the remakes there,

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but it was also released in other collections, correct? correct?

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Metal Gear Saga, Metal Gear Legacy, and there's another one coming out,

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Metal Gear Collectors, whatever the fuck.

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Volume 1 and Volume 2.

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There's another remake, a full-blown high-def 4K remake of Snake Eater 3 coming out this year.

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Or sorry, Metal Gear Solid 3 Snake Eater this year.

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Called Metal Gear Solid 3 Snake Eater Delta. Delta. Wow.

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Metal Gear Solid Snake Eater Eats Again. Yeah, I have the PS3 Legacy.

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That's the Legacy. Legacy Collection. Yeah, that one has Metal Gear 1,

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then Metal Gear 2, Solid Snake, Metal Gear Solid, Metal Gear Solid something,

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Metal Gear Solid 2, 3, 4, and then the...

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I can't even read this anymore. My eyes are bad.

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Yeah subsistence all that yeah metal gear

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solid is one of those games kind of to what you're to you're

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saying in our previous episode we talked about classics and

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how they're being remade and whatever but when you talk about this this particular

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series i cannot think of another game that has had so many other than probably

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street fighter right that have so many iterations of this fucking game come

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out? Can you think of another one besides Street Fighter?

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Are you talking about specifically number three or the series?

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The series, because think about it, they all get re-released all the time.

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Yeah, maybe Resident Evil.

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Yeah, okay. That's close. I would say it's definitely not as often, but close. Yeah.

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Yeah. Because they're redoing 4 now. I mean, they did 4. They're redoing Code Veronica next.

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Right, right. So, yeah. And then if you look at number 1, they redid number

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1 multiple times, and then the Origins, and then GameCube, and then...

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Well, I mean, in Metal Gear, yeah, you look at Metal Gear, they did the phenomenal

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Twin Snakes, I mean, on the GameCube.

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And they're supposed to redo that one now, too. that one has never been released

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on a collection isn't that absolute bullshit yeah because I think it's down

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to the developers I guess.

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Yeah because Silicon Knights developed it and Nintendo owns it yes I think you're right.

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And honestly that port or that

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remake of Metal Gear Solid 1 was one of the

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most impressive remakes I've ever seen for

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a game because it was such a great of taking what

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was so great about the game already and then making it

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better and then filling in things that you didn't see because you

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didn't have the really shitty polygon graphics right from the playstation 1

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like it was just it was impeccable i seriously think having that comeback would

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be amazing i mean we can we need that we need that remake we need to really

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we do need that remake more than we need another release of metal gear solid

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3 i completely I completely agree.

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And Metal Gear Solid, let's talk about Metal Gear Solid 1, PlayStation 1.

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That game was the first game I ever played where I felt I was controlling a

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movie because of the presentation.

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Because the one thing that impressed me the most was that intro,

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and then you're going up the elevator, and then the credits start going. I'm like, bro. Bro.

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This is bad ass and you're

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just way you can't fast forward or anything and it's just like that's that

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music you know directed by hideo kojima and you know konami and all the developers

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it was in the beginning and i was like dude who does nobody's done that really

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before i mean it felt like a freaking movie yeah almost like a michael bay type

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movie huh like like a like a high budget.

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Don't insult Metal Gear with Michael Bay.

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I'm not a Michael Bay fan.

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He destroyed my 20 years, man. I'm sorry. Oh, man.

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Oh, dude. I see what you're saying. Yeah, I understand what you're saying.

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I mean, because he was the man at the time.

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What did he have at the time? The Island? What was that called?

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No, the Island. That was the 2000s. We're talking like old school. Miami.

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What is it? Oh my god, not Hot Club. Bad Boys. There we go.

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Yeah, Bad Boys is good. Independence Day? Come on.

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Independence Day was good. Yeah, I forgot that was Michael Bay.

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That was good. Exactly, dude. Armageddon came out. Armageddon's his dude.

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Armageddon was alright. I thought it was alright. Oh my lord,

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you better not have Mike hear you.

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Sorry, Mike. But you know,

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Metal Gear Solid solid when you talk about that that opening sequence

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that that feeling you get of being in a movie they try

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to replicate that in every single game which usually i would say

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they nail but the problem is and i know those

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people are going to listen because i think you agree with me on this hideo kojima

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fanboys are the most hardcore fans in the world and they will fight you too

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saying that you're wrong his games are great and i'm not denying that they're

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not great but they are convoluted we have to admit to that i mean you got it

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you have to be on my side on that one.

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Oh, I'm 100% on your side. I think,

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As time went on, I think some of the originality that especially with number

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one and part number two, it kind of got repeated and stuff wasn't as original.

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And that and I don't I wouldn't say that's his fault.

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I mean, he was so original when he when he came out with Solid,

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Solid two, you know, and eventually with Solid three.

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It's it's not really his fault because he had to keep topping it.

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You know what I mean? So I think think of it like a M. like shalaman movie you

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know at the beginning like all his movies all had a twist at the end of you're

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like oh my god i'm gonna go watch every one of his movies and later on you're like yeah,

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that i was waiting for that i was waiting for that knockout punch and it really

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kind of didn't happen i kind of i kind of got it like an easy piece of leg or

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maybe like a little elbow instead.

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And i i i don't want to blame hedale for that but i think to your point some

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of his fans or fanboys put some of his stuff maybe rated a little too high.

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We're not sitting here trying to bad mouth him, although I do have a story that

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to this day still pisses me off.

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You know what I'm talking about.

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But yeah, it was a death stranding, man.

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It got a bunch of awards. I believe that's eventually getting a sequel and a

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remake or something like that. And I know a lot of people are like,

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oh, my God, this game was incredible.

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This game was genius. And I was like, was it really?

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I thought it was like, I thought it was super repetitive. And the gameplay was, I mean, it was cool.

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It was a cool game. But in nowhere would I say genius status or,

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you know, that game doesn't crack my top 100, maybe not even 200.

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But I know people that just swear by that game. And that's, you know,

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they're just huge Hideo fans.

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I'm like, okay, yeah, more power to you. because i'm sure there's games that

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i like and developers i like and they're like uh yeah i don't know i don't

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think that game was that good but to me it was totally and

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i think too when you think about like the i like

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to call it the metal gear effect where it's like that's a series when you play

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it you kind of like have to really like think like you don't know anything each

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game right and like that's kind of how this writing feels like you have to go

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in like not knowing anything because if you go in with some pre-assumption of

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what this game is about it's gonna make no fucking sense And honestly,

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I'm probably going to get shit for this.

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Death Stranding, to me, feels like a walking simulator, personally.

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Yeah, I feel like a space-aged UPS delivery guy, man. I'm sorry.

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There's all this technology, but yet you're carrying stuff on your back.

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There's all this technology around. Why can't I use the technology, man?

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I know. I know. And then you've got to balance your weights.

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Like, I don't know. I don't want to play a game where I got to balance my weight.

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And I see that. I see that he was trying to make that a game within a game,

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you know, a strategy part within the game.

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And I get it. I respect it. It was kind of cool. Hey, you had to pull the triggers and balance it.

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And that might be cool for like a mini game. But the fact that I had to do that

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and traverse like this rough terrain and the whole time I'm just dropping packages.

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I have to pick them back up and rebalance them and do it.

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I got damn it, dude. Can I just get to the point?

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Can I just get to point a to point B, you know? And I'm just like,

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Oh, it's driving me nuts, man.

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And I think that goes back to his, his creativity and trying to create something different.

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And for me, that one didn't work with metal gear, going back to metal gear, solid one.

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I mean, some of the stuff that he did in there, like the knocking on the wall

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to attract people the first time ever, I was able to hide into a locker and

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you could see through the locker vents, you know, and see what's going on.

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Crawling in the vents on top and looking down, you know, the longer you stared

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at your female counterpart, she starts saying, hey, what are you looking at?

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Kind of stuff, you know, stuff like that just triggered. I was like,

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oh, dude, that's freaking awesome. That's genius.

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And then going back to one of his other games that he made, which blew me away.

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And a lot of collectors looking for this one complete is the Boktai for the Game Boy Advance.

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Ants i don't know if you remember that one remember it

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was like a vampire hunter simulator kind of thing and it

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had a uv uv ray detector where you

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literally had to take this cartridge you know unless you

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cheated with a uv lamp those of you who have you

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know growing some uh some of that latin lettuce

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in your garage but um no but

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so you would take bacti you know and it had

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a cartridge had a little sensor on the top of the cartridge and you literally had to

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play this thing outside and the uv ray would charge

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up and then when you played the game at night or

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you went into the caves on the game you were limited to how

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much uv ray your sensor had and that's

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how you got to shine your light and and show you know

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and and go after the the critters and the vampires or whatever that were in

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the caves that was genius to me dude as stuff like that you know and that's

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that's right after like metal gear that's one of the kind of the unsung games

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that i thought was in my opinion was genius of him that that creativity but

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death stranding wasn't it for me man.

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I agree with you, but for me, the one that I think of that really defined his career is Snatcher.

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Oh, yeah. Yeah. Sega CD Snatcher.

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Yeah. I tried to play that one recently, and I just realized how much I don't

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like to read anymore. Oh, yeah. It's hard reading.

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Yeah. I had to read a lot, although I did kind of get into Disco Elysium.

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Disco Elysium is pretty freaking badass, dude. It's a different story.

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Yeah yeah but a lot of reading but i don't i normally don't read anymore

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you know back back in the days when i was playing games i had

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more patience able to read that stuff and yeah and snatcher absolutely man

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that was a freaking game changer man dude and it sets it sets up very much like

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who he is gonna be you know what i mean like who hideo kojima is gonna be what

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his games are gonna be like the theatrical they're the production is high you

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know they create stories that get you involved and connected.

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And even though Metal Gear Solid is one of those games that kind of,

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you know, it is a very convoluted story, especially when you think about the big picture.

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It's still such an involved story. I mean, Metal Gear Solid 1,

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Masterpiece. Metal Gear Solid 2, it's good.

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I know why a lot of people love it. I have a hard time with it just because

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I didn't care for the switch between Raiden and Solid Snake.

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Metal Gear Solid 3, say Masterpiece. Metal Gear Solid 3 is so well thought out.

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Metal Gear Solid 4, well, you know it's

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it's great to see the the whole franchise come to an end

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at the time at least because i remember telling you you're right we used to

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work together and i remember saying dude but this is it like this is they're

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gonna kill him off it's over and then you had said no one day he's gonna come

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back and then many many years later metagross solved five comes out and even

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though technically it's not

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a sequel it's a prequel it's like yeah well he's never gonna go away yeah.

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Well, I remember after Snake had technically died, and I told you,

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another Metal Gear is coming.

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And I remember your answer was, what?

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How? And you were just kind of pissed off, dude. And then you were like, why?

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Why? And I was like, because it's a moneymaker.

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You know what I mean? Why would, I don't know, why would syrup companies stop making maple syrup?

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That's their go-to. You know, why would, why would you stop selling? I don't know.

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I don't know. I don't even know how to put this. Why would, why would Cheez-It

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stop selling different versions of Cheez-It crackers?

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That's their money maker. That's what they're going to go to. That's what they know.

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It was because, it was because it felt so finite. Like it felt so done.

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Like it felt so final. That's what I've been saying. So final.

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Like for me, at least when you played four, it felt like it was done.

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It was like, cause you sell what happened to them. you you but then

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what ruins that fucking game is you go through so you beat the game and then

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there's credits and then out of nowhere there's a cut scene that cut scene goes

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on for almost an hour after you beat the game then there's more you got you

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gotta keep your options open man,

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i mean now you never have it he doesn't own it anymore so yeah but you never

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know man you might He might buy it back.

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I mean, that's what happened with David Jaffe. He had the rights to Twisted

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Metal, sold them to Sony, and then Sony, you know, basically fucked his game

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up. I'm sorry, Twisted Metal 4 sucked.

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And then he eventually bought all the characters back, because he went on to do, was it Rogue Trip?

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With a single track, which was a fantastic car battle game. You could system

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link that game, too, on the PlayStation 1.

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And I spoke to, I did an interview with Jaffe, and And I told him like how excited

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he was to get met or why he came back to do Twisted Metal.

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He was like, I had to buy my characters back because they weren't going to do

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anything with them. They're basically going to kill them off.

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And so he literally out of his own money bought the rights to his characters

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back, made Twisted Metal black and was so pissed off at Sony because it was

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a mature rated Twisted Metal game and they would not promote it for him.

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And he said he said then I'm done with them so if I was Microsoft,

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or Nintendo I would definitely call Jaffe up and said hey what about making

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a Twisted Metal bring Twisted Metal back you got the Twisted Metal series out on Hulu or whatever it is.

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How about bringing that series back and we're behind you 100%?

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Because when's the last car battle game you played?

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You know what I mean? It's like a dead franchise. Bring it back, dude.

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Yeah, that's definitely been a while since I played those.

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So always keep that door open, man. Always keep that door open indeed.

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And I think you're talking about Metal Gear and there was other versions of

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Metal Gear that people don't know about.

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So the Game Boy Color had the very first handheld version of it,

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which was called Metal Gear ghost babble which more or

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less was metal gear solid i'm sorry metal gear 2 which

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is on the on the nes more or less with a little bit

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of one sprinkled in there did you ever play that one i believe i and i

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believe i gave you my copy yeah a long time ago you might have made of yeah

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you might have yeah that was a long time ago then yeah yeah but ghost babble

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and then we talk about more portables there was a metal gear on the psp playstation

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portable a very unique one oh no you You want to go that one, okay?

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It was called Portable Ops Plus, which was basically Metal Gear Online,

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really, because it wasn't that story-driven.

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It was more about the multiplayer function on the go, right?

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It was cool, but it wasn't Metal Gear. I mean, not authentically.

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But the one I was going to refer to, if you could bring that up now, is Metal Gear Acid.

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I don't have it on me. I don't know where my box is. I have the cartridge only,

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but I don't know what my box is.

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Man, Metal Gear Asset and Metal Gear Asset 2, arguably one of the most unique

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versions of Metal Gear ever made, if you haven't played it, for the PlayStation Portable.

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It was a Metal Gear turn-based card game.

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When you would think about that statement back in the day, I mean,

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this is what I miss about gaming.

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It was like, they would take chances on a show like that. You know what I mean?

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Like, somebody thought, let's try making a Metal Gear card game,

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right? Like, that would never happen now.

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Yeah and i think that spawned i could be wrong but dating it i think that spawned,

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other card games like s and k card fighter clash

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oh wow and then and then eventually capcom came out with their own little card

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game street fighter street fighter card game i think you could play it right

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now on on your phones where it has not just street fighter but it has like other

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characters from other capcom games as well they did a card they did a card battle game as as well.

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And it just showed that it can be done if it's done the right way and you have the right.

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The right layout as far as the characters and their weak points,

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strong points, all that stuff.

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Yeah, Metal Gear Acid. Didn't Metal Gear Acid come with 3D glasses, too?

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Metal Gear Acid 2 did. Metal Gear Acid 2 did, yeah. Yeah, because they changed...

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That was another feature I thought was dope, dude. You could play it in freaking 3D.

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Yeah, yeah. They changed the art style. It was more of a cel-shaded art style on the second one.

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Because the first, they were kind of mold... Not mold.

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Just boring. They weren't really really great polygons or

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the the the added the cell shading kind of made it more pop

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a little bit right and there's a 3d aspect to it like you said but it would

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only work though if you had the psv 1000 the fat boy it wouldn't work with the

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other ones and so you're going to slide it in the little cardboard thing and

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if you think about this this is before vr glasses this is before,

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google google uh cardboard like this

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is kind of ahead of its time in some respects would you you agree with

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that yeah absolutely and this

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goes back to like this goes back to i think kojima's innovation

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he's all he was always striving to innovate you know

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totally and and there is a metal gear acid it's what it's hard to describe it

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without playing it but you basically get a round of cards and each card set

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kind of has like its own like you move x faces you can use a card weapon card

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you can use a grenade card or something like I thought, you're using your cards

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to move forward in the game.

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And it's kind of like a tactics game, but you need the cards to do it.

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And it's all digital, of course.

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It was such a unique and fun experience. And honestly, I would love to have

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that ported on the Switch or something.

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That'd be cool to play on there. Or even on your phone, that'd be cool.

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But that's yet to happen, of course.

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But Metal Gear Solid has gone through such a weird change of...

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Direction so medical solid 5 came out

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not that long ago and that one actually has it's voiced

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by because we can't talk about mgs and not bring up

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the voice of solid snake right one of the most voices

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in the video game world which is

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voiced by david hater and i don't know if i told you this

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or not but i actually met david hater in my travels no

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way and that's good and i'll

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tell you about the interaction so david hater

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kind of like you is very passionate about what he does but

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he always every knows him for metal gear and whatever

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that's great but a lot of people don't know he's actually a

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screenwriter first and so he wrote the

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script for the original x-men movies and people

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don't also know this he arguably wrote one of the greatest comic movies

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of all time and i think even you like this movie is the

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watchman oh yes for sure and

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i was talking about like hey you

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know i think you're although i love your voice and obviously it's so

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iconic your writing is really amazing because

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obviously to me there still has yet to be a comic book movie as perfect as the

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watchman like as far as like from page to screen man it's perfect right almost

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near other than the ending it's almost perfect and he was really he was really

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thankful for that and he pulls me close to his ear and he goes and he says, Uncle Dad, you're good.

413
00:27:48,298 --> 00:27:51,978
Oh, man. Awesome. That's awesome.

414
00:27:52,158 --> 00:27:57,038
Yeah, so Watchmen, man, I love that movie so much and I did not read the comic

415
00:27:57,038 --> 00:28:00,898
or graphic novel, some people want to call it, at all.

416
00:28:02,138 --> 00:28:07,778
Just not a reader. I've never been a comic book reader and I freaking love that movie, dude.

417
00:28:07,858 --> 00:28:10,318
I love the series. HBO series I loved as well.

418
00:28:10,638 --> 00:28:13,778
I thought it was very, very well done. I actually haven't seen the series.

419
00:28:14,638 --> 00:28:17,558
I think you'll like it, man. Yeah, I think you'll like it.

420
00:28:17,598 --> 00:28:23,778
It's definitely modernized, but it's significant in the times, even now.

421
00:28:24,278 --> 00:28:29,398
It came out, what, a couple years back, but it's still significant to this day

422
00:28:29,398 --> 00:28:31,618
of kind of like what's going on. It's very well done, dude.

423
00:28:31,858 --> 00:28:33,458
The cinematics are sick. The

424
00:28:33,458 --> 00:28:36,798
filming, I think they got a bunch of awards for like effects and stuff.

425
00:28:37,138 --> 00:28:40,038
I liked it a lot. lot yeah so

426
00:28:40,038 --> 00:28:42,798
you know solid snake himself is a part of that but then

427
00:28:42,798 --> 00:28:46,278
he wasn't asked to be in number five there really

428
00:28:46,278 --> 00:28:49,598
hasn't that to this day hasn't been a reason as to why he

429
00:28:49,598 --> 00:28:53,518
wasn't asked they just said they didn't ask him and they brought keifer sutherland

430
00:28:53,518 --> 00:28:59,478
in to be the voice of metal gear solid and while it's not a bad it's not a bad

431
00:28:59,478 --> 00:29:04,178
take on the voice it just sometimes feels like he's trying too hard and keifer

432
00:29:04,178 --> 00:29:07,538
you know he's obviously a great actor you know lost Boys, 24,

433
00:29:07,958 --> 00:29:11,638
and some other good stuff, I think. He was also in a great horror movie called Mirrors.

434
00:29:11,918 --> 00:29:16,398
But, you know, I think it's hard to replicate who Saltzang is.

435
00:29:17,218 --> 00:29:19,898
Don't forget Stand By Me. Who's in Stand By Me?

436
00:29:21,512 --> 00:29:22,892
Oh, wow. Good pull.

437
00:29:25,512 --> 00:29:30,372
Yeah, you know, so it's hard for me to just get into that voice and get into that character.

438
00:29:30,532 --> 00:29:33,492
I can imagine it's a challenge, but Metal Gear Solid V, in my opinion,

439
00:29:33,492 --> 00:29:37,292
was like the weakest of all the Metal Gears. Because, I don't know, it just wasn't needed.

440
00:29:37,532 --> 00:29:40,532
You know, it should have just ended at four, right? We didn't need to go five.

441
00:29:41,052 --> 00:29:44,412
And now we're going to probably, you know, see another one one day.

442
00:29:44,512 --> 00:29:46,132
I mean, I know there's that horrible...

443
00:29:46,632 --> 00:29:50,932
Do you know about that Metal Gear game? It's like a horrible online zombie shooter.

444
00:29:51,512 --> 00:29:55,872
I heard about it yeah yeah horrible oh my god horrible,

445
00:29:57,612 --> 00:30:05,172
it's horror bull horrible going back to you were talking about how they got

446
00:30:05,172 --> 00:30:12,132
keifer and when you do something like that to a series voice acting is a big deal man because,

447
00:30:12,812 --> 00:30:20,092
it changes just the the gameplay aspect of it because yeah you're used to a

448
00:30:20,092 --> 00:30:23,932
certain voice and that's always been attached to that character.

449
00:30:24,492 --> 00:30:28,812
Another series, which was inspired by Metal Gear and they changed the voice

450
00:30:28,812 --> 00:30:31,052
actor, which pissed me off, was Splinter Cell.

451
00:30:31,532 --> 00:30:34,872
Oh, yeah. So when they did Splinter Cell, remember, and they...

452
00:30:35,916 --> 00:30:38,676
And they had, what's his name? What can I think of his name right now?

453
00:30:39,276 --> 00:30:41,556
Michael Ironside, right? Michael Ironside.

454
00:30:42,516 --> 00:30:47,676
And then they went away from him in, I forgot what Spinner said,

455
00:30:47,716 --> 00:30:48,596
Conviction, I think it was.

456
00:30:48,796 --> 00:30:55,336
And they went away from him. I was like, dude, that's, Michael Ironside is Sam Fisher.

457
00:30:55,636 --> 00:30:58,236
He always will be Sam Fisher. What the fuck are you guys doing?

458
00:30:58,896 --> 00:31:02,336
And it just changed it, man. It changed the feel right away, man.

459
00:31:02,476 --> 00:31:05,976
You can't do that shit. and i was hoping

460
00:31:05,976 --> 00:31:08,816
when i heard that he's not the voice i

461
00:31:08,816 --> 00:31:12,396
was hoping that he would

462
00:31:12,396 --> 00:31:15,436
say no i'm not doing it because my loyalty is with

463
00:31:15,436 --> 00:31:18,216
kojima and the creator but when i found

464
00:31:18,216 --> 00:31:21,316
out that he wasn't even asked i was like i

465
00:31:21,316 --> 00:31:25,116
i can see already the writing

466
00:31:25,116 --> 00:31:28,316
on the wall with konami and then the stuff came out

467
00:31:28,316 --> 00:31:31,296
later they're letting you know kojima go and and

468
00:31:31,296 --> 00:31:34,336
i was like man this is as as as tired

469
00:31:34,336 --> 00:31:38,236
as i was of the metal gear franchise at that time that's

470
00:31:38,236 --> 00:31:40,916
not a good decision that was bad dude that was

471
00:31:40,916 --> 00:31:44,096
really bad so i hope he comes back with a vengeance something

472
00:31:44,096 --> 00:31:46,836
better than death you know what's interesting too about

473
00:31:46,836 --> 00:31:50,196
you saying all that about the splinter cell thing is that

474
00:31:50,196 --> 00:31:52,896
splinter cell blacklist and i'm reading

475
00:31:52,896 --> 00:31:57,676
it right now michael ironside him michael ironside himself himself said he actually

476
00:31:57,676 --> 00:32:02,116
just didn't want to do it he didn't want to do it because he felt that the script

477
00:32:02,116 --> 00:32:06,136
wasn't good enough he felt that it was too gory too bloody so that's why he

478
00:32:06,136 --> 00:32:10,836
chose not to do it so ultimately michael ironside is the one to blame why he

479
00:32:10,836 --> 00:32:12,776
wasn't in black blitz hold on.

480
00:32:13,316 --> 00:32:17,976
Michael ironside said it was too bloody and too gory yeah he goes when they

481
00:32:17,976 --> 00:32:22,856
said when they sent me for the or is it uh yeah when i got the script it was

482
00:32:22,856 --> 00:32:28,536
very stiff very inflexible and a lot of a a lot of blood and violence and I didn't want to do it.

483
00:32:30,086 --> 00:32:32,206
Tell me from the guy who did Starship Troopers?

484
00:32:34,506 --> 00:32:39,746
I mean, he's also old now, right? That was perfect pop, by the way.

485
00:32:40,066 --> 00:32:43,866
He sounded like old man on that cop. I did, actually. I know.

486
00:32:45,926 --> 00:32:50,526
Let me tell you about Metal Gear Solid, Sonny. Oh, man.

487
00:32:51,826 --> 00:32:56,786
To wrap everything up here about Metal Gear, this wasn't about a history of

488
00:32:56,786 --> 00:32:59,026
Metal Gear, just to chat about our memories of Metal Gear.

489
00:33:00,206 --> 00:33:04,806
And honestly Metal Gear Solid will always mean a lot to me forever it will even

490
00:33:04,806 --> 00:33:09,966
though I don't really play it as much as I used to what's funny is am I going

491
00:33:09,966 --> 00:33:12,186
to get the remake of Delta of Metal Gear Solid?

492
00:33:12,346 --> 00:33:16,406
I haven't played 3 in so long and I want to replay it because that was my favorite,

493
00:33:17,966 --> 00:33:22,806
you know what on the last episode you did a code corner I got a code corner for this episode,

494
00:33:24,186 --> 00:33:27,586
the code corner for Metal Gear Solid 3 if you

495
00:33:27,586 --> 00:33:30,566
when you play the boss where he's an old sniper

496
00:33:30,566 --> 00:33:33,346
i think i can't remember his name exactly but the

497
00:33:33,346 --> 00:33:36,066
the sniper who's an old man when you get

498
00:33:36,066 --> 00:33:39,906
into that mission save the game when you get to that boss fight save the game

499
00:33:39,906 --> 00:33:45,946
cancel the game out or you know close the game turn on the ps2 do it where you

500
00:33:45,946 --> 00:33:51,046
can actually select the system clock go to system clock fast forward the the

501
00:33:51,046 --> 00:33:53,786
the internal date to like, I don't know, five,

502
00:33:53,926 --> 00:33:59,286
10 years, just X months, just like more than five years, then boot the game up and play.

503
00:33:59,566 --> 00:34:04,006
What will happen is whoever that boss's name is, the old sniper,

504
00:34:04,746 --> 00:34:07,466
he will be dead because he died of old age.

505
00:34:08,806 --> 00:34:11,866
And you skip the entire boss fight.

506
00:34:13,686 --> 00:34:19,246
That's awesome. Remember the trick with Metal Gear Solid 1 when you first faced

507
00:34:19,246 --> 00:34:21,826
Psycho Mantis? Which one, which trick?

508
00:34:22,746 --> 00:34:27,046
You'd plug the controller into port number two? Yes, yeah, yeah.

509
00:34:27,506 --> 00:34:30,766
Yeah, you plugged it into port number two, and you would kill him because he

510
00:34:30,766 --> 00:34:32,486
couldn't read your mind anymore?

511
00:34:33,286 --> 00:34:37,266
Yeah. That was awesome, dude. And when you first started the game,

512
00:34:37,466 --> 00:34:40,546
I remember I first started the game, and he's talking to you.

513
00:34:40,586 --> 00:34:42,386
I forgot what character I was talking to you. They're like, oh,

514
00:34:42,546 --> 00:34:46,166
I see you like Contra and Castlevania.

515
00:34:46,226 --> 00:34:48,226
I was like, dude, how's your – what?

516
00:34:48,646 --> 00:34:51,766
Like, what the hell? They're reading the memory card. shit like that dude was

517
00:34:51,766 --> 00:34:55,266
freaking genius man yeah that stuff was freaking cool,

518
00:34:55,766 --> 00:35:00,426
so i mean even that trick of like uh killing the boss by old age like who would

519
00:35:00,426 --> 00:35:05,886
have thought of that right exactly uh bad ass dude but going back to uh metal

520
00:35:05,886 --> 00:35:08,626
gear solid you're talking about i got one of the one of the things that i'm

521
00:35:08,626 --> 00:35:12,306
happy i got in my collection i got metal gear solid integral.

522
00:35:13,486 --> 00:35:16,246
Which was the japanese only release came with

523
00:35:16,246 --> 00:35:19,826
another disc extra content and then

524
00:35:19,826 --> 00:35:22,626
i got something that was kind of forgot about and it was

525
00:35:22,626 --> 00:35:25,486
released here in the states i don't know if you're familiar

526
00:35:25,486 --> 00:35:32,026
with this as a fan but the metal gear solid 2 the document yeah the documents

527
00:35:32,026 --> 00:35:37,226
of metal gear solid 2 and it's for for a fanboy this is great because it goes

528
00:35:37,226 --> 00:35:43,526
over like the creation of the game sound development script the polygon models,

529
00:35:44,006 --> 00:35:50,866
It talks about the first, they give you a first look at the new VR training in Substance.

530
00:35:51,086 --> 00:35:52,746
A bunch of special footage on it.

531
00:35:53,795 --> 00:35:57,315
If you are a Metal Gear fan, this is pretty tight. What were you going to say?

532
00:35:57,815 --> 00:36:01,235
Well, what's funny about the documented Metal Gear Solid 2 is I never understood

533
00:36:01,235 --> 00:36:06,435
why it was a PS2 game, technically, but really it was just a DVD. Yeah.

534
00:36:07,195 --> 00:36:08,955
Because it comes in a PS2 case.

535
00:36:10,055 --> 00:36:14,595
It's a real PS2 case. It says PS2 on top and everything. I think it even has a greeting.

536
00:36:16,415 --> 00:36:17,015
It has.

537
00:36:19,135 --> 00:36:22,835
It has an instruction manual. It's not an instruction manual.

538
00:36:22,835 --> 00:36:23,975
I've got the book inside, dude.

539
00:36:24,555 --> 00:36:26,695
Yeah, it's pretty good. I think that's why I bought it, because I was like,

540
00:36:26,735 --> 00:36:29,975
why did they put it in a PS2 case? You know what? I'm getting it.

541
00:36:30,535 --> 00:36:35,335
Even though I was... I don't know. I don't think it's worth that much money,

542
00:36:35,435 --> 00:36:39,015
but Metal Gear Solid fans are definitely out for it.

543
00:36:39,195 --> 00:36:42,755
And the reason why I got that was because...

544
00:36:43,175 --> 00:36:45,975
And here's my... Do you want me to go into my story about Metal Gear Solid 2?

545
00:36:46,715 --> 00:36:49,635
You can after this. One last thing I wanted to say. Yeah, yeah.

546
00:36:49,675 --> 00:36:52,235
For sure. I want to finish with your story.

547
00:36:52,835 --> 00:36:56,695
So I just wanted to quickly tell you, very quickly, to you and our audience,

548
00:36:56,915 --> 00:37:02,475
if you like Metal Gear Solid, let me tell you, there is a convention for you.

549
00:37:02,755 --> 00:37:06,315
That's right. There is a Metal Gear Solid convention in Long Beach, California.

550
00:37:06,675 --> 00:37:10,555
It is the second year that they're doing it. It's called MGS Con 2,

551
00:37:10,755 --> 00:37:12,835
Cons of Liberty. Haha, get it?

552
00:37:14,915 --> 00:37:20,495
July 20th, 2024, the Kickstarter is live. If you are a fan of Metal Gear Solid,

553
00:37:20,655 --> 00:37:22,835
you've got to go check it out. I'm going to try to attend this year.

554
00:37:23,095 --> 00:37:26,155
It is just go to mgscon.com.

555
00:37:26,495 --> 00:37:29,315
And then the way you get your ticket is you support their Kickstarter.

556
00:37:29,635 --> 00:37:33,995
They have prices as low as $5 and tiers all the way up to $100.

557
00:37:34,455 --> 00:37:41,095
And talking about Metal Gear Solid 3, they're going to try to have the woman

558
00:37:41,095 --> 00:37:44,195
who sung the theme song of Metal Gear Solid 3,

559
00:37:44,815 --> 00:37:49,375
if they can meet their goal, Cynthia Harrell will actually be there and perform

560
00:37:49,375 --> 00:37:52,015
Snake Eater live in front of everybody. Oh, wow.

561
00:37:52,985 --> 00:37:57,905
That'd be awesome. If you go, are you going to drop acid? Huh?

562
00:37:58,105 --> 00:37:59,565
Am I just solid acid? No? Nah.

563
00:38:00,285 --> 00:38:04,905
Will they let you smoke a cigarette inside? Because if they don't, that's bullshit.

564
00:38:05,885 --> 00:38:09,645
Can I walk around with a cardboard box? Like, come on. Oh, that'd be sick.

565
00:38:10,025 --> 00:38:12,945
That'd be sick if you go over there, dude, and what does it just say on there?

566
00:38:13,045 --> 00:38:15,445
Food or something like that? And just walk around? Dee-dee-dee.

567
00:38:15,885 --> 00:38:19,545
And have like a little slot, and that way somebody finds you,

568
00:38:19,545 --> 00:38:22,165
and you're like, oh, look at that guy in a box. You can put up the exclamation mark.

569
00:38:23,725 --> 00:38:25,985
And then be like what was that noise.

570
00:38:28,045 --> 00:38:30,785
Oh man yes go check that out

571
00:38:30,785 --> 00:38:34,165
on instagram as well at mgs con and please

572
00:38:34,165 --> 00:38:36,945
uh this is not a paid promotion this is just something i'm doing because i'm

573
00:38:36,945 --> 00:38:40,165
a fan so mgs con 2 memes jeans

574
00:38:40,165 --> 00:38:43,725
and snakes a metal gear fan convention mgs

575
00:38:43,725 --> 00:38:46,465
con 2 cons of liberty kickstarter go check

576
00:38:46,465 --> 00:38:49,805
them out all right let's hear your story good sir yeah real

577
00:38:49,805 --> 00:38:52,605
quick on metal gear solid 2 just read the the back right now because we're

578
00:38:52,605 --> 00:38:55,345
talking about armageddon and we might piss

579
00:38:55,345 --> 00:39:01,825
mike off but the powerful music score was composed by harry gregson williams

580
00:39:01,825 --> 00:39:10,365
who also did enemy of the state the rock and armageddon wow there you go that's

581
00:39:10,365 --> 00:39:13,685
why so here's here's my story about metal gear Solid 2.

582
00:39:13,965 --> 00:39:21,065
And one of the reasons why Hideo dropped on my list of favorite developers.

583
00:39:21,365 --> 00:39:24,385
And is it petty? Yes. Absolutely.

584
00:39:25,145 --> 00:39:30,845
And I'll own that. But I was such a big fan of Metal Gear Solid 1 and the Metal Gear game on NES.

585
00:39:32,365 --> 00:39:36,365
But Metal Gear Solid 2 was just revolutionary for me.

586
00:39:36,505 --> 00:39:40,425
So when they first announced Metal Gear Solid 1, when they first announced Metal

587
00:39:40,425 --> 00:39:43,505
Gear Solid 2, I could not wait for it to drop in America.

588
00:39:43,625 --> 00:39:46,465
So I imported the Japanese one

589
00:39:46,465 --> 00:39:53,105
and I found out there was a collector's edition, which cost me $250 plus.

590
00:39:53,705 --> 00:39:59,745
A lot of money back then for me, but I said, you know what? I'm going to get it. I got my PS2 chipped.

591
00:40:00,125 --> 00:40:04,385
It would be able to play Japanese games and majority of that game was in English anyway.

592
00:40:05,125 --> 00:40:08,945
So I went all out, paid for it to get chipped,

593
00:40:09,865 --> 00:40:12,545
prepaid for this collector's edition uh shout out to

594
00:40:12,545 --> 00:40:16,145
network videos no longer around but those in northern california know what network

595
00:40:16,145 --> 00:40:22,965
video is natty thank you so what comes in natty calls me up lou your metal gear's

596
00:40:22,965 --> 00:40:27,765
in fat awesome and i don't live close to this place takes me about an hour and

597
00:40:27,765 --> 00:40:31,505
a half sometimes two hours and then about three hours driving back because of.

598
00:40:32,487 --> 00:40:36,147
Because of traffic. I live in the Valley and this place is in the Bay Area, California.

599
00:40:36,367 --> 00:40:40,687
So anyways, I go pick it up and I'm super excited for this game. I bring it home.

600
00:40:41,207 --> 00:40:44,547
I got the collector's edition, man. Hell yeah. Bust open the game.

601
00:40:44,687 --> 00:40:47,387
And I'm one of those people that, you know, read the book, even though most

602
00:40:47,387 --> 00:40:48,707
of it was the Japanese at the time.

603
00:40:49,247 --> 00:40:52,887
There's a lot of English involved as well. And all the little extra stuff that comes with it.

604
00:40:52,927 --> 00:40:56,107
So I'm looking for all the extra stuff that comes with it. And it has like a

605
00:40:56,107 --> 00:40:57,267
little soundtrack with it. Cool.

606
00:40:57,867 --> 00:41:00,887
And I'm looking looking for all the other bells and whistles and there's

607
00:41:00,887 --> 00:41:08,047
really not anything and so i'm like what the hell what the hell is going on

608
00:41:08,047 --> 00:41:10,647
so i call them up and i was like hey i think there's some stuff missing out

609
00:41:10,647 --> 00:41:15,007
on my collector's edition and they're like well no and so they opened one that

610
00:41:15,007 --> 00:41:20,787
one of the workers opened one up and i was like why was this thing 250 dude i said i don't get it

611
00:41:21,207 --> 00:41:25,287
i could have just got the standard version for like 80 you know imported and

612
00:41:25,287 --> 00:41:31,167
been good he's like like no it comes with you see that baggie inside and I was

613
00:41:31,167 --> 00:41:34,547
like what baggie he's just like a little bag inside and I was like what are

614
00:41:34,547 --> 00:41:38,567
you talking about and so I open it back up again and I'm like,

615
00:41:39,247 --> 00:41:46,647
what the hell is this he's like it's a lock of Kojima's hair and I said you

616
00:41:46,647 --> 00:41:52,527
mean to tell me I spent $250 and all the gas and my time to go down there pick

617
00:41:52,527 --> 00:41:55,327
that up because this has a little,

618
00:41:56,207 --> 00:41:58,967
flipping of Hideo Kojima's hair on it?

619
00:41:59,947 --> 00:42:02,807
What the fuck? I was like, dude, I was so pissed. I was like,

620
00:42:02,807 --> 00:42:07,067
what weirdo wants this shit? I got so freaking pissed, dude.

621
00:42:07,927 --> 00:42:11,327
I regret it now, but I got rid of it.

622
00:42:11,787 --> 00:42:15,427
I forgot who I gave... I was so pissed off that I spent that much money because

623
00:42:15,427 --> 00:42:16,747
this guy put his own hair in it.

624
00:42:16,947 --> 00:42:20,807
And who knows? It could have been a pube. I don't know. I didn't even look at it, man.

625
00:42:21,127 --> 00:42:26,907
I got so pissed off, man. So essentially, all I did was get the game and a soundtrack, which I...

626
00:42:27,914 --> 00:42:32,714
You can pop in the DVD into a CD player, I think, and it plays the soundtrack anyway.

627
00:42:33,174 --> 00:42:37,234
But I was like, man, I can't believe I paid that much money because it had like

628
00:42:37,234 --> 00:42:41,234
a little tiny shaving of his hair in like a dime bag, dude.

629
00:42:42,354 --> 00:42:47,014
My question is, that must be so rare because I've never seen that before.

630
00:42:47,934 --> 00:42:51,374
Yeah, that's why I say I regret getting rid of it. Because had I have it now,

631
00:42:51,594 --> 00:42:56,834
I could probably sell that for a lot of money. And I would sell it because I was so pissed off.

632
00:42:57,254 --> 00:43:00,254
But that's how i thought i was so pissed dude at

633
00:43:00,254 --> 00:43:04,934
the time man i just i just wanted to get rid of it oh i was so mad i spent that

634
00:43:04,934 --> 00:43:07,874
much money on that because there was a bunch of other stuff that came out at

635
00:43:07,874 --> 00:43:10,454
the time i forgot what it was there was a bunch of dreamcast stuff that i wanted

636
00:43:10,454 --> 00:43:13,934
it was a neo geo game that i wanted at the time i could have got for a pretty

637
00:43:13,934 --> 00:43:18,234
good price over there and i'm just like fuck dude i was sitting here with a

638
00:43:18,234 --> 00:43:19,834
freaking little bag of hair and,

639
00:43:20,374 --> 00:43:23,174
and and metal gear solid 2 and it took me forever to pop

640
00:43:23,174 --> 00:43:27,014
in metal gear solid 2 i was so pissed eventually did and the

641
00:43:27,014 --> 00:43:29,934
story just got kind of crazy from there and the middle

642
00:43:29,934 --> 00:43:32,694
gear story at least and i was done i

643
00:43:32,694 --> 00:43:35,954
was done for a while it took me a long time to play three i eventually

644
00:43:35,954 --> 00:43:39,774
got over to three and i got over it i think honestly i think acid kind of brought

645
00:43:39,774 --> 00:43:42,894
me back like you were talking about the originality of it yeah it was a card

646
00:43:42,894 --> 00:43:49,594
game but it was very very well done pick up and play fun to play and i think

647
00:43:49,594 --> 00:43:52,974
i just get i got the other ones just because because there were Metal Gear,

648
00:43:53,074 --> 00:43:55,314
and I wanted it for my collection.

649
00:43:56,234 --> 00:44:00,794
But, yeah, that was my story. Deep down, you're a Metal Gear fan, though, deep down.

650
00:44:01,894 --> 00:44:06,774
I would have to say yes, and it goes back to Solid, well, like I said,

651
00:44:06,814 --> 00:44:10,474
I enjoyed the original Metal Gear that I played on the NES, I enjoyed it.

652
00:44:10,654 --> 00:44:12,194
But Metal Gear Solid 2 was...

653
00:44:13,475 --> 00:44:20,955
As far as like influences on me and enjoyment that I had, I had a ton of fun

654
00:44:20,955 --> 00:44:25,195
with the VR missions, man, me and my friend, Jesse played the shit out of the VR missions.

655
00:44:25,215 --> 00:44:29,735
And we would, we would, we would do, we would do, you know, just time trials

656
00:44:29,735 --> 00:44:33,595
to do who get them, get them done first, the smoothest, the quickest.

657
00:44:33,675 --> 00:44:36,295
And if you could do them a different way, we did that a lot with,

658
00:44:36,295 --> 00:44:38,715
oh man, what was that one game called?

659
00:44:39,095 --> 00:44:41,355
Mirror's Edge too. We killed it with Mirror's Edge.

660
00:44:41,935 --> 00:44:46,135
Time trials, man. man. Time trials were fun. But yeah, no, I'm a fan.

661
00:44:46,495 --> 00:44:49,155
More of one, definitely not because of two with a lock of hair.

662
00:44:50,715 --> 00:44:53,895
I do have one last tidbit of information.

663
00:44:54,135 --> 00:44:59,095
Do you remember a Konami skateboarding game called Evolution Skateboarding?

664
00:44:59,535 --> 00:45:00,935
I do. Absolutely.

665
00:45:01,555 --> 00:45:05,575
Did you know that there's an entire Metal Gear Solid skateboarding level there?

666
00:45:05,695 --> 00:45:08,855
You play the Metal Gear Solid 2. Sorry, sorry.

667
00:45:09,475 --> 00:45:13,415
From Metal Gear Solid 2, the whole entire thing takes place on the big shell,

668
00:45:13,555 --> 00:45:17,735
so you can actually skateboard in the entire big shell as Solid Snake and ride it.

669
00:45:17,875 --> 00:45:20,715
I would say as Solid Snake. I remember you could be Solid Snake on that one,

670
00:45:20,775 --> 00:45:24,855
and I think I could be wrong, but I believe it used the Metal Gear Solid engine, too.

671
00:45:25,435 --> 00:45:27,595
I think it did. That's why it was in that, right? Yeah.

672
00:45:29,195 --> 00:45:33,795
I think so, yeah. Evolution of Skateboarding, if you guys can find that one,

673
00:45:33,815 --> 00:45:34,555
definitely check that out.

674
00:45:35,195 --> 00:45:38,015
Okay, that was my little little love letter to

675
00:45:38,015 --> 00:45:42,275
metal gear full of love and hate at the same time truly

676
00:45:42,275 --> 00:45:45,395
something i can't wait for and metagrassal 3 thank you

677
00:45:45,395 --> 00:45:48,135
for all the memories you gave me 20 years i can't believe

678
00:45:48,135 --> 00:45:51,195
it's been 20 years and if you haven't played all three

679
00:45:51,195 --> 00:45:53,875
check it out it really is and then delta's on the

680
00:45:53,875 --> 00:45:56,835
way so if you haven't checked it out wait for the new remake and get

681
00:45:56,835 --> 00:46:02,615
it all in 4k glory with updated content updated i i think if they're remastering

682
00:46:02,615 --> 00:46:06,775
his voice like everything's being being remastered so go check that out medical

683
00:46:06,775 --> 00:46:11,475
solid 3 delta coming out later this year you got one last thing one last thing

684
00:46:11,475 --> 00:46:16,535
do you ever think speaking of kojima do you think they ever will finish and release pt,

685
00:46:17,778 --> 00:46:20,098
Oh, probably not. Well, I don't know. Actually, I don't know now.

686
00:46:20,138 --> 00:46:22,098
Let me rephrase that because I don't know if you,

687
00:46:22,158 --> 00:46:27,038
I think you must've seen that he's partnering with Jordan Peele in this new

688
00:46:27,038 --> 00:46:30,998
movie or this movie video game where they announced that he has another video

689
00:46:30,998 --> 00:46:33,138
game coming out and he's working with Monkey Paw Productions.

690
00:46:33,538 --> 00:46:37,238
So I think if that game comes out and does well, I think we will see a form

691
00:46:37,238 --> 00:46:41,858
of PT, but maybe not like what we originally saw. Okay.

692
00:46:43,158 --> 00:46:46,758
Yeah. I think it'll be a different take on it, I think. And then just because

693
00:46:46,758 --> 00:46:48,538
of the name, I wouldn't be surprised

694
00:46:48,538 --> 00:46:53,238
if they just said, oh, this is Hideo Kojima's and Monkey Paul's PT.

695
00:46:53,778 --> 00:46:55,498
You know what I mean? Yeah.

696
00:46:56,318 --> 00:47:01,278
But I don't know. We'll see. But without further ado, I'm Uncle Dad,

697
00:47:01,398 --> 00:47:04,278
and you can find me on Instagram at Uncle Dad Talks. And with me,

698
00:47:04,338 --> 00:47:08,138
as always, is my clever co-host, Mr.

699
00:47:08,378 --> 00:47:13,718
Retro Gaming Nomad. And you can find him on Instagram at Retro Gaming Nomad. All one word, correct?

700
00:47:14,578 --> 00:47:19,018
Correct. Correct. Retro Gaming Nomad. All one word.

701
00:47:19,718 --> 00:47:22,798
On my post, I try to throw a little backstory to some of the games.

702
00:47:23,118 --> 00:47:27,158
It's not just, oh, here's what I got. Check it out. So appreciate if you guys

703
00:47:27,158 --> 00:47:31,278
kind of read, give me some tidbits and what you guys would like to see more of. That'd be awesome.

704
00:47:32,198 --> 00:47:36,438
And maybe you can post a picture of all the Metal Gear games when I post this episode up.

705
00:47:37,698 --> 00:47:38,858
I'll try to find the lock of hair.

706
00:47:40,718 --> 00:47:41,838
Just use one of your own.

707
00:47:44,418 --> 00:47:47,178
All right everybody thank you thank you so much for listening we'll see you

708
00:47:47,178 --> 00:47:49,258
all next month peace love and.

709
00:47:49,360 --> 00:48:23,268
Music.