TGP Episode 9: Metal Gear Games

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Hello, everyone. Welcome to this week's bi-weekly episode of The Game Papas.

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I'm Uncle Dad, and with me, as always, is the Retro Gaming Nomad. What's up, man?

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Cheers! Hello, everybody. Welcome back. Welcome back.

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Welcome back. Oh, that's pretty good. That's pretty good. A little welcome back, Kata.

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Yeah, man. man. Every time I hear that, I actually did that one of our Uncle

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Dad Talks episode where Mike came back from being gone so long and I put the

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fucking welcome back theme in there.

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Did it take him back? It took him forward. Did he start talking like John Travolta?

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Oh yeah, he's in that, huh? Yeah, that was the first shit, dude.

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Wow, I forgot about that. But speaking of old school things,

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we are talking about today's subject which is near

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and dear to my heart well sort of metal gear

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those can't see because we're not video is is

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retro gaming nomad putting his metal

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gear in my face yeah so what

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i'm gonna do is i got a bunch of games here because

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uncle dad's definitely one of the

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biggest metal gear fans i know and we always

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have a joke every year because he's like no dude snake's dead metal

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gear's over with and i was like no it's never dead they're gonna

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bring it back and they are gonna milk that teat

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until it's dry and guess what they're gonna do after that they're gonna

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make powdered milk and they're gonna bring it back again and then after the

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powder milk goes spoiled guess what they're gonna get they're gonna get some

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similac and they're gonna remix it and they're gonna bring it back in it will

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never die snake will never die so while he's talking i am gonna put up to to

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the camera. You guys can't see.

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I'm going to put up to the camera a Metal Gear game, and he doesn't know this,

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and I wanted him to say a little something about it.

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Okay, we're just going to do that right now? Well, no, go ahead with your intro, Metal Gear.

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Okay, so Metal Gear Solid celebrates, sorry, Metal Gear Solid 3 Snake Year will

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celebrate its 20th anniversary this year.

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A lot of people consider 3 or 2 to be the best.

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Personally, I think 3 is the best one because it was a prequel to the franchise,

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which gets very confusing.

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And to be honest with you, I do not want, and Retro, you tell me too,

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I really don't want to dive into the plot lines overall because it's going to

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make no sense and we're going to be confused.

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You can't. Yeah, we don't have enough time on this podcast.

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I think by the time we're done explaining the entire story, which I don't even

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know anymore, these people will probably die themselves.

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Either starvation if they listen to us or they'll turn into freaking mummy dust.

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Because who knows? Everybody's everybody's mom. Everybody's a clone of somebody

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else. Who knows? You might be a solid snake.

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I don't know. And you're a naked snake.

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I'm Revolver Talks A Lot. That's what I am. I didn't put a little rim shot in there.

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Yeah, so Metal Gear Solid 3 in my opinion had one of the most unique storylines

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that took place during the Cold War.

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You kind of see what Solid Snake is... Not Solid Snake. At that time he was Naked Snake, right?

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That's the thing. Naked Snake.

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So he's currently holding up Metal Gear Solid 3 Snake Eater.

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And, you know, to kind of talk about Metal Gear Solid 3, or all Metal Gears,

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what is the deal with them always repackaging it with a special edition basically later?

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What is your thoughts on that? Because why not? It's a money grab.

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That's a money grab, bro. Those are money grabs for sure.

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For sure they are. I just showed you Metal Gear Solid 3 Snake Eater.

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And then one of the things I

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just posted on my Instagram is the not-so-well-known Merely Good Solid 3D.

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Snake Eater. Yeah. And then you also have...

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Which Konami had to release that little... Remember that little attachment to

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the 3DS? It had a second analog stick?

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That's right! Oh my god, I forgot about that. That was for this game.

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And you had to... You can go to Konami's official site and actually get it.

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So you can control the camera and stuff, man. Yeah.

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That's right. Wow, I forgot about that. So on the subject of Snake Eater,

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we have Snake Eater 3D, Snake Eater, the original release.

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You have Snake Eater Subsistence, I think it's called.

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That's the one they repackaged. And there's two versions of that version as well.

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You have the Snake Eater Subsistence Standard Package, which comes with,

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I think, the game, extra shit, and then, I think, Metal Gear 1 and 2,

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like Metal Gear for the NES.

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And then I believe it also came came with like extra scenes but then there's

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another version of that version that comes with a dvd that's the entire cut

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scenes into one dvd yeah because i didn't do that because i have

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well no i'll let you go on with metal gear solid 3 because i got this other

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one here with two but uh i'll let you go so metal gear solid 3 just had a bunch of versions,

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one of the things mr no man that i have wanted my entire

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life and i know don't have and i

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want it so bad is the metal it was for e3

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back when they did it and it was an e3 exclusive

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vinyl of the metal gear solid theme song snake eater it was like a james bond

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type theme song i'm sure you remember if you heard it you would know it but

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it was like one of the most beautiful things in the medical universe and they

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made a full-size lp vinyl that had one song on it and that was the,

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and that was the Snake Eater theme song.

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You can buy it online on eBay, probably like $200, $300, but if I could ever

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find one in the wild, man, I want that so bad.

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So fucking bad. They're not going to do a repressing of it?

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They never did. They never did. And it's weird because you know that would sell,

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right? Like that would totally sell.

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Well, yeah. And the fact that they re-released Metal Gear Solid 3 17 times and

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they can't do the vinyl twice?

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Like, come on. It's too expensive.

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You know, and it's funny because when you think about Metal Gear,

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and you think about Metal Gear Solid 3, not only is there the remakes there,

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but it was also released in other collections, correct? correct?

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Metal Gear Saga, Metal Gear Legacy, and there's another one coming out,

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Metal Gear Collectors, whatever the fuck.

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Volume 1 and Volume 2.

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There's another remake, a full-blown high-def 4K remake of Snake Eater 3 coming out this year.

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Or sorry, Metal Gear Solid 3 Snake Eater this year.

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Called Metal Gear Solid 3 Snake Eater Delta. Delta. Wow.

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Metal Gear Solid Snake Eater Eats Again. Yeah, I have the PS3 Legacy.

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That's the Legacy. Legacy Collection. Yeah, that one has Metal Gear 1,

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then Metal Gear 2, Solid Snake, Metal Gear Solid, Metal Gear Solid something,

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Metal Gear Solid 2, 3, 4, and then the...

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I can't even read this anymore. My eyes are bad.

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Yeah subsistence all that yeah metal gear

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solid is one of those games kind of to what you're to you're

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saying in our previous episode we talked about classics and

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how they're being remade and whatever but when you talk about this this particular

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series i cannot think of another game that has had so many other than probably

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street fighter right that have so many iterations of this fucking game come

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out? Can you think of another one besides Street Fighter?

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Are you talking about specifically number three or the series?

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The series, because think about it, they all get re-released all the time.

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Yeah, maybe Resident Evil.

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Yeah, okay. That's close. I would say it's definitely not as often, but close. Yeah.

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Yeah. Because they're redoing 4 now. I mean, they did 4. They're redoing Code Veronica next.

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Right, right. So, yeah. And then if you look at number 1, they redid number

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1 multiple times, and then the Origins, and then GameCube, and then...

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Well, I mean, in Metal Gear, yeah, you look at Metal Gear, they did the phenomenal

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Twin Snakes, I mean, on the GameCube.

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And they're supposed to redo that one now, too. that one has never been released

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on a collection isn't that absolute bullshit yeah because I think it's down

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to the developers I guess.

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Yeah because Silicon Knights developed it and Nintendo owns it yes I think you're right.

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And honestly that port or that

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remake of Metal Gear Solid 1 was one of the

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most impressive remakes I've ever seen for

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a game because it was such a great of taking what

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was so great about the game already and then making it

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better and then filling in things that you didn't see because you

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didn't have the really shitty polygon graphics right from the playstation 1

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like it was just it was impeccable i seriously think having that comeback would

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be amazing i mean we can we need that we need that remake we need to really

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we do need that remake more than we need another release of metal gear solid

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3 i completely I completely agree.

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And Metal Gear Solid, let's talk about Metal Gear Solid 1, PlayStation 1.

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That game was the first game I ever played where I felt I was controlling a

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movie because of the presentation.

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Because the one thing that impressed me the most was that intro,

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and then you're going up the elevator, and then the credits start going. I'm like, bro. Bro.

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This is bad ass and you're

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just way you can't fast forward or anything and it's just like that's that

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music you know directed by hideo kojima and you know konami and all the developers

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it was in the beginning and i was like dude who does nobody's done that really

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before i mean it felt like a freaking movie yeah almost like a michael bay type

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movie huh like like a like a high budget.

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Don't insult Metal Gear with Michael Bay.

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I'm not a Michael Bay fan.

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He destroyed my 20 years, man. I'm sorry. Oh, man.

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Oh, dude. I see what you're saying. Yeah, I understand what you're saying.

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I mean, because he was the man at the time.

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What did he have at the time? The Island? What was that called?

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No, the Island. That was the 2000s. We're talking like old school. Miami.

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What is it? Oh my god, not Hot Club. Bad Boys. There we go.

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Yeah, Bad Boys is good. Independence Day? Come on.

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Independence Day was good. Yeah, I forgot that was Michael Bay.

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That was good. Exactly, dude. Armageddon came out. Armageddon's his dude.

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Armageddon was alright. I thought it was alright. Oh my lord,

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you better not have Mike hear you.

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Sorry, Mike. But you know,

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Metal Gear Solid solid when you talk about that that opening sequence

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that that feeling you get of being in a movie they try

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to replicate that in every single game which usually i would say

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they nail but the problem is and i know those

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people are going to listen because i think you agree with me on this hideo kojima

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fanboys are the most hardcore fans in the world and they will fight you too

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saying that you're wrong his games are great and i'm not denying that they're

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not great but they are convoluted we have to admit to that i mean you got it

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you have to be on my side on that one.

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Oh, I'm 100% on your side. I think,

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As time went on, I think some of the originality that especially with number

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one and part number two, it kind of got repeated and stuff wasn't as original.

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And that and I don't I wouldn't say that's his fault.

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I mean, he was so original when he when he came out with Solid,

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Solid two, you know, and eventually with Solid three.

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It's it's not really his fault because he had to keep topping it.

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You know what I mean? So I think think of it like a M. like shalaman movie you

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know at the beginning like all his movies all had a twist at the end of you're

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like oh my god i'm gonna go watch every one of his movies and later on you're like yeah,

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that i was waiting for that i was waiting for that knockout punch and it really

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kind of didn't happen i kind of i kind of got it like an easy piece of leg or

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maybe like a little elbow instead.

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And i i i don't want to blame hedale for that but i think to your point some

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of his fans or fanboys put some of his stuff maybe rated a little too high.

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We're not sitting here trying to bad mouth him, although I do have a story that

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to this day still pisses me off.

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You know what I'm talking about.

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But yeah, it was a death stranding, man.

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It got a bunch of awards. I believe that's eventually getting a sequel and a

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remake or something like that. And I know a lot of people are like,

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oh, my God, this game was incredible.

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This game was genius. And I was like, was it really?

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I thought it was like, I thought it was super repetitive. And the gameplay was, I mean, it was cool.

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It was a cool game. But in nowhere would I say genius status or,

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you know, that game doesn't crack my top 100, maybe not even 200.

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But I know people that just swear by that game. And that's, you know,

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they're just huge Hideo fans.

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I'm like, okay, yeah, more power to you. because i'm sure there's games that

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i like and developers i like and they're like uh yeah i don't know i don't

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think that game was that good but to me it was totally and

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i think too when you think about like the i like

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to call it the metal gear effect where it's like that's a series when you play

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it you kind of like have to really like think like you don't know anything each

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game right and like that's kind of how this writing feels like you have to go

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in like not knowing anything because if you go in with some pre-assumption of

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what this game is about it's gonna make no fucking sense And honestly,

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I'm probably going to get shit for this.

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Death Stranding, to me, feels like a walking simulator, personally.

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Yeah, I feel like a space-aged UPS delivery guy, man. I'm sorry.

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There's all this technology, but yet you're carrying stuff on your back.

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There's all this technology around. Why can't I use the technology, man?

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I know. I know. And then you've got to balance your weights.

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Like, I don't know. I don't want to play a game where I got to balance my weight.

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And I see that. I see that he was trying to make that a game within a game,

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you know, a strategy part within the game.

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And I get it. I respect it. It was kind of cool. Hey, you had to pull the triggers and balance it.

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And that might be cool for like a mini game. But the fact that I had to do that

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and traverse like this rough terrain and the whole time I'm just dropping packages.

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I have to pick them back up and rebalance them and do it.

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I got damn it, dude. Can I just get to the point?

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Can I just get to point a to point B, you know? And I'm just like,

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Oh, it's driving me nuts, man.

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And I think that goes back to his, his creativity and trying to create something different.

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And for me, that one didn't work with metal gear, going back to metal gear, solid one.

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I mean, some of the stuff that he did in there, like the knocking on the wall

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to attract people the first time ever, I was able to hide into a locker and

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you could see through the locker vents, you know, and see what's going on.

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Crawling in the vents on top and looking down, you know, the longer you stared

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at your female counterpart, she starts saying, hey, what are you looking at?

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Kind of stuff, you know, stuff like that just triggered. I was like,

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oh, dude, that's freaking awesome. That's genius.

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And then going back to one of his other games that he made, which blew me away.

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And a lot of collectors looking for this one complete is the Boktai for the Game Boy Advance.

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Ants i don't know if you remember that one remember it

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was like a vampire hunter simulator kind of thing and it

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had a uv uv ray detector where you

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literally had to take this cartridge you know unless you

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cheated with a uv lamp those of you who have you

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know growing some uh some of that latin lettuce

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in your garage but um no but

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so you would take bacti you know and it had

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a cartridge had a little sensor on the top of the cartridge and you literally had to

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play this thing outside and the uv ray would charge

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up and then when you played the game at night or

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you went into the caves on the game you were limited to how

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much uv ray your sensor had and that's

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how you got to shine your light and and show you know

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and and go after the the critters and the vampires or whatever that were in

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the caves that was genius to me dude as stuff like that you know and that's

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that's right after like metal gear that's one of the kind of the unsung games

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that i thought was in my opinion was genius of him that that creativity but

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death stranding wasn't it for me man.

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I agree with you, but for me, the one that I think of that really defined his career is Snatcher.

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Oh, yeah. Yeah. Sega CD Snatcher.

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Yeah. I tried to play that one recently, and I just realized how much I don't

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like to read anymore. Oh, yeah. It's hard reading.

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Yeah. I had to read a lot, although I did kind of get into Disco Elysium.

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Disco Elysium is pretty freaking badass, dude. It's a different story.

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Yeah yeah but a lot of reading but i don't i normally don't read anymore

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you know back back in the days when i was playing games i had

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more patience able to read that stuff and yeah and snatcher absolutely man

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that was a freaking game changer man dude and it sets it sets up very much like

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who he is gonna be you know what i mean like who hideo kojima is gonna be what

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his games are gonna be like the theatrical they're the production is high you

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know they create stories that get you involved and connected.

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And even though Metal Gear Solid is one of those games that kind of,

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you know, it is a very convoluted story, especially when you think about the big picture.

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It's still such an involved story. I mean, Metal Gear Solid 1,

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Masterpiece. Metal Gear Solid 2, it's good.

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I know why a lot of people love it. I have a hard time with it just because

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I didn't care for the switch between Raiden and Solid Snake.

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Metal Gear Solid 3, say Masterpiece. Metal Gear Solid 3 is so well thought out.

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Metal Gear Solid 4, well, you know it's

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it's great to see the the whole franchise come to an end

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at the time at least because i remember telling you you're right we used to

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work together and i remember saying dude but this is it like this is they're

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gonna kill him off it's over and then you had said no one day he's gonna come

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back and then many many years later metagross solved five comes out and even

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though technically it's not

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a sequel it's a prequel it's like yeah well he's never gonna go away yeah.

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Well, I remember after Snake had technically died, and I told you,

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another Metal Gear is coming.

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And I remember your answer was, what?

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How? And you were just kind of pissed off, dude. And then you were like, why?

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Why? And I was like, because it's a moneymaker.

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You know what I mean? Why would, I don't know, why would syrup companies stop making maple syrup?

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That's their go-to. You know, why would, why would you stop selling? I don't know.

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I don't know. I don't even know how to put this. Why would, why would Cheez-It

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stop selling different versions of Cheez-It crackers?

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That's their money maker. That's what they're going to go to. That's what they know.

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It was because, it was because it felt so finite. Like it felt so done.

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Like it felt so final. That's what I've been saying. So final.

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Like for me, at least when you played four, it felt like it was done.

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It was like, cause you sell what happened to them. you you but then

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what ruins that fucking game is you go through so you beat the game and then

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there's credits and then out of nowhere there's a cut scene that cut scene goes

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on for almost an hour after you beat the game then there's more you got you

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gotta keep your options open man,

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i mean now you never have it he doesn't own it anymore so yeah but you never

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know man you might He might buy it back.

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I mean, that's what happened with David Jaffe. He had the rights to Twisted

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Metal, sold them to Sony, and then Sony, you know, basically fucked his game

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up. I'm sorry, Twisted Metal 4 sucked.

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And then he eventually bought all the characters back, because he went on to do, was it Rogue Trip?

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With a single track, which was a fantastic car battle game. You could system

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link that game, too, on the PlayStation 1.

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And I spoke to, I did an interview with Jaffe, and And I told him like how excited

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he was to get met or why he came back to do Twisted Metal.

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He was like, I had to buy my characters back because they weren't going to do

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anything with them. They're basically going to kill them off.

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And so he literally out of his own money bought the rights to his characters

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back, made Twisted Metal black and was so pissed off at Sony because it was

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a mature rated Twisted Metal game and they would not promote it for him.

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And he said he said then I'm done with them so if I was Microsoft,

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or Nintendo I would definitely call Jaffe up and said hey what about making

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a Twisted Metal bring Twisted Metal back you got the Twisted Metal series out on Hulu or whatever it is.

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How about bringing that series back and we're behind you 100%?

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Because when's the last car battle game you played?

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You know what I mean? It's like a dead franchise. Bring it back, dude.

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Yeah, that's definitely been a while since I played those.

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So always keep that door open, man. Always keep that door open indeed.

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And I think you're talking about Metal Gear and there was other versions of

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Metal Gear that people don't know about.

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So the Game Boy Color had the very first handheld version of it,

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which was called Metal Gear ghost babble which more or

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less was metal gear solid i'm sorry metal gear 2 which

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is on the on the nes more or less with a little bit

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of one sprinkled in there did you ever play that one i believe i and i

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believe i gave you my copy yeah a long time ago you might have made of yeah

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you might have yeah that was a long time ago then yeah yeah but ghost babble

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and then we talk about more portables there was a metal gear on the psp playstation

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portable a very unique one oh no you You want to go that one, okay?

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It was called Portable Ops Plus, which was basically Metal Gear Online,

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really, because it wasn't that story-driven.

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It was more about the multiplayer function on the go, right?

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It was cool, but it wasn't Metal Gear. I mean, not authentically.

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But the one I was going to refer to, if you could bring that up now, is Metal Gear Acid.

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I don't have it on me. I don't know where my box is. I have the cartridge only,

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but I don't know what my box is.

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Man, Metal Gear Asset and Metal Gear Asset 2, arguably one of the most unique

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versions of Metal Gear ever made, if you haven't played it, for the PlayStation Portable.

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It was a Metal Gear turn-based card game.

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When you would think about that statement back in the day, I mean,

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this is what I miss about gaming.

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It was like, they would take chances on a show like that. You know what I mean?

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Like, somebody thought, let's try making a Metal Gear card game,

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right? Like, that would never happen now.

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Yeah and i think that spawned i could be wrong but dating it i think that spawned,

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other card games like s and k card fighter clash

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oh wow and then and then eventually capcom came out with their own little card

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game street fighter street fighter card game i think you could play it right

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now on on your phones where it has not just street fighter but it has like other

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characters from other capcom games as well they did a card they did a card battle game as as well.

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And it just showed that it can be done if it's done the right way and you have the right.

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The right layout as far as the characters and their weak points,

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strong points, all that stuff.

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Yeah, Metal Gear Acid. Didn't Metal Gear Acid come with 3D glasses, too?

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Metal Gear Acid 2 did. Metal Gear Acid 2 did, yeah. Yeah, because they changed...

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That was another feature I thought was dope, dude. You could play it in freaking 3D.

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Yeah, yeah. They changed the art style. It was more of a cel-shaded art style on the second one.

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Because the first, they were kind of mold... Not mold.

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Just boring. They weren't really really great polygons or

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the the the added the cell shading kind of made it more pop

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a little bit right and there's a 3d aspect to it like you said but it would

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only work though if you had the psv 1000 the fat boy it wouldn't work with the

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other ones and so you're going to slide it in the little cardboard thing and

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if you think about this this is before vr glasses this is before,

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google google uh cardboard like this

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is kind of ahead of its time in some respects would you you agree with

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that yeah absolutely and this

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goes back to like this goes back to i think kojima's innovation

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he's all he was always striving to innovate you know

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totally and and there is a metal gear acid it's what it's hard to describe it

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without playing it but you basically get a round of cards and each card set

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kind of has like its own like you move x faces you can use a card weapon card

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you can use a grenade card or something like I thought, you're using your cards

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to move forward in the game.

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And it's kind of like a tactics game, but you need the cards to do it.

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And it's all digital, of course.

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It was such a unique and fun experience. And honestly, I would love to have

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that ported on the Switch or something.

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That'd be cool to play on there. Or even on your phone, that'd be cool.

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But that's yet to happen, of course.

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But Metal Gear Solid has gone through such a weird change of...

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Direction so medical solid 5 came out

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not that long ago and that one actually has it's voiced

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by because we can't talk about mgs and not bring up

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the voice of solid snake right one of the most voices

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in the video game world which is

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voiced by david hater and i don't know if i told you this

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or not but i actually met david hater in my travels no

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way and that's good and i'll

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tell you about the interaction so david hater

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kind of like you is very passionate about what he does but

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he always every knows him for metal gear and whatever

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that's great but a lot of people don't know he's actually a

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screenwriter first and so he wrote the

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script for the original x-men movies and people

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don't also know this he arguably wrote one of the greatest comic movies

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of all time and i think even you like this movie is the

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watchman oh yes for sure and

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i was talking about like hey you

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know i think you're although i love your voice and obviously it's so

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iconic your writing is really amazing because

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obviously to me there still has yet to be a comic book movie as perfect as the

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watchman like as far as like from page to screen man it's perfect right almost

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near other than the ending it's almost perfect and he was really he was really

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thankful for that and he pulls me close to his ear and he goes and he says, Uncle Dad, you're good.

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Oh, man. Awesome. That's awesome.

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Yeah, so Watchmen, man, I love that movie so much and I did not read the comic

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or graphic novel, some people want to call it, at all.

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Just not a reader. I've never been a comic book reader and I freaking love that movie, dude.

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I love the series. HBO series I loved as well.

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I thought it was very, very well done. I actually haven't seen the series.

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I think you'll like it, man. Yeah, I think you'll like it.

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It's definitely modernized, but it's significant in the times, even now.

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It came out, what, a couple years back, but it's still significant to this day

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of kind of like what's going on. It's very well done, dude.

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The cinematics are sick. The

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filming, I think they got a bunch of awards for like effects and stuff.

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I liked it a lot. lot yeah so

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you know solid snake himself is a part of that but then

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he wasn't asked to be in number five there really

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hasn't that to this day hasn't been a reason as to why he

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wasn't asked they just said they didn't ask him and they brought keifer sutherland

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in to be the voice of metal gear solid and while it's not a bad it's not a bad

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take on the voice it just sometimes feels like he's trying too hard and keifer

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you know he's obviously a great actor you know lost Boys, 24,

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and some other good stuff, I think. He was also in a great horror movie called Mirrors.

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But, you know, I think it's hard to replicate who Saltzang is.

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Don't forget Stand By Me. Who's in Stand By Me?

436
00:29:21,512 --> 00:29:22,892
Oh, wow. Good pull.

437
00:29:25,512 --> 00:29:30,372
Yeah, you know, so it's hard for me to just get into that voice and get into that character.

438
00:29:30,532 --> 00:29:33,492
I can imagine it's a challenge, but Metal Gear Solid V, in my opinion,

439
00:29:33,492 --> 00:29:37,292
was like the weakest of all the Metal Gears. Because, I don't know, it just wasn't needed.

440
00:29:37,532 --> 00:29:40,532
You know, it should have just ended at four, right? We didn't need to go five.

441
00:29:41,052 --> 00:29:44,412
And now we're going to probably, you know, see another one one day.

442
00:29:44,512 --> 00:29:46,132
I mean, I know there's that horrible...

443
00:29:46,632 --> 00:29:50,932
Do you know about that Metal Gear game? It's like a horrible online zombie shooter.

444
00:29:51,512 --> 00:29:55,872
I heard about it yeah yeah horrible oh my god horrible,

445
00:29:57,612 --> 00:30:05,172
it's horror bull horrible going back to you were talking about how they got

446
00:30:05,172 --> 00:30:12,132
keifer and when you do something like that to a series voice acting is a big deal man because,

447
00:30:12,812 --> 00:30:20,092
it changes just the the gameplay aspect of it because yeah you're used to a

448
00:30:20,092 --> 00:30:23,932
certain voice and that's always been attached to that character.

449
00:30:24,492 --> 00:30:28,812
Another series, which was inspired by Metal Gear and they changed the voice

450
00:30:28,812 --> 00:30:31,052
actor, which pissed me off, was Splinter Cell.

451
00:30:31,532 --> 00:30:34,872
Oh, yeah. So when they did Splinter Cell, remember, and they...

452
00:30:35,916 --> 00:30:38,676
And they had, what's his name? What can I think of his name right now?

453
00:30:39,276 --> 00:30:41,556
Michael Ironside, right? Michael Ironside.

454
00:30:42,516 --> 00:30:47,676
And then they went away from him in, I forgot what Spinner said,

455
00:30:47,716 --> 00:30:48,596
Conviction, I think it was.

456
00:30:48,796 --> 00:30:55,336
And they went away from him. I was like, dude, that's, Michael Ironside is Sam Fisher.

457
00:30:55,636 --> 00:30:58,236
He always will be Sam Fisher. What the fuck are you guys doing?

458
00:30:58,896 --> 00:31:02,336
And it just changed it, man. It changed the feel right away, man.

459
00:31:02,476 --> 00:31:05,976
You can't do that shit. and i was hoping

460
00:31:05,976 --> 00:31:08,816
when i heard that he's not the voice i

461
00:31:08,816 --> 00:31:12,396
was hoping that he would

462
00:31:12,396 --> 00:31:15,436
say no i'm not doing it because my loyalty is with

463
00:31:15,436 --> 00:31:18,216
kojima and the creator but when i found

464
00:31:18,216 --> 00:31:21,316
out that he wasn't even asked i was like i

465
00:31:21,316 --> 00:31:25,116
i can see already the writing

466
00:31:25,116 --> 00:31:28,316
on the wall with konami and then the stuff came out

467
00:31:28,316 --> 00:31:31,296
later they're letting you know kojima go and and

468
00:31:31,296 --> 00:31:34,336
i was like man this is as as as tired

469
00:31:34,336 --> 00:31:38,236
as i was of the metal gear franchise at that time that's

470
00:31:38,236 --> 00:31:40,916
not a good decision that was bad dude that was

471
00:31:40,916 --> 00:31:44,096
really bad so i hope he comes back with a vengeance something

472
00:31:44,096 --> 00:31:46,836
better than death you know what's interesting too about

473
00:31:46,836 --> 00:31:50,196
you saying all that about the splinter cell thing is that

474
00:31:50,196 --> 00:31:52,896
splinter cell blacklist and i'm reading

475
00:31:52,896 --> 00:31:57,676
it right now michael ironside him michael ironside himself himself said he actually

476
00:31:57,676 --> 00:32:02,116
just didn't want to do it he didn't want to do it because he felt that the script

477
00:32:02,116 --> 00:32:06,136
wasn't good enough he felt that it was too gory too bloody so that's why he

478
00:32:06,136 --> 00:32:10,836
chose not to do it so ultimately michael ironside is the one to blame why he

479
00:32:10,836 --> 00:32:12,776
wasn't in black blitz hold on.

480
00:32:13,316 --> 00:32:17,976
Michael ironside said it was too bloody and too gory yeah he goes when they

481
00:32:17,976 --> 00:32:22,856
said when they sent me for the or is it uh yeah when i got the script it was

482
00:32:22,856 --> 00:32:28,536
very stiff very inflexible and a lot of a a lot of blood and violence and I didn't want to do it.

483
00:32:30,086 --> 00:32:32,206
Tell me from the guy who did Starship Troopers?

484
00:32:34,506 --> 00:32:39,746
I mean, he's also old now, right? That was perfect pop, by the way.

485
00:32:40,066 --> 00:32:43,866
He sounded like old man on that cop. I did, actually. I know.

486
00:32:45,926 --> 00:32:50,526
Let me tell you about Metal Gear Solid, Sonny. Oh, man.

487
00:32:51,826 --> 00:32:56,786
To wrap everything up here about Metal Gear, this wasn't about a history of

488
00:32:56,786 --> 00:32:59,026
Metal Gear, just to chat about our memories of Metal Gear.

489
00:33:00,206 --> 00:33:04,806
And honestly Metal Gear Solid will always mean a lot to me forever it will even

490
00:33:04,806 --> 00:33:09,966
though I don't really play it as much as I used to what's funny is am I going

491
00:33:09,966 --> 00:33:12,186
to get the remake of Delta of Metal Gear Solid?

492
00:33:12,346 --> 00:33:16,406
I haven't played 3 in so long and I want to replay it because that was my favorite,

493
00:33:17,966 --> 00:33:22,806
you know what on the last episode you did a code corner I got a code corner for this episode,

494
00:33:24,186 --> 00:33:27,586
the code corner for Metal Gear Solid 3 if you

495
00:33:27,586 --> 00:33:30,566
when you play the boss where he's an old sniper

496
00:33:30,566 --> 00:33:33,346
i think i can't remember his name exactly but the

497
00:33:33,346 --> 00:33:36,066
the sniper who's an old man when you get

498
00:33:36,066 --> 00:33:39,906
into that mission save the game when you get to that boss fight save the game

499
00:33:39,906 --> 00:33:45,946
cancel the game out or you know close the game turn on the ps2 do it where you

500
00:33:45,946 --> 00:33:51,046
can actually select the system clock go to system clock fast forward the the

501
00:33:51,046 --> 00:33:53,786
the internal date to like, I don't know, five,

502
00:33:53,926 --> 00:33:59,286
10 years, just X months, just like more than five years, then boot the game up and play.

503
00:33:59,566 --> 00:34:04,006
What will happen is whoever that boss's name is, the old sniper,

504
00:34:04,746 --> 00:34:07,466
he will be dead because he died of old age.

505
00:34:08,806 --> 00:34:11,866
And you skip the entire boss fight.

506
00:34:13,686 --> 00:34:19,246
That's awesome. Remember the trick with Metal Gear Solid 1 when you first faced

507
00:34:19,246 --> 00:34:21,826
Psycho Mantis? Which one, which trick?

508
00:34:22,746 --> 00:34:27,046
You'd plug the controller into port number two? Yes, yeah, yeah.

509
00:34:27,506 --> 00:34:30,766
Yeah, you plugged it into port number two, and you would kill him because he

510
00:34:30,766 --> 00:34:32,486
couldn't read your mind anymore?

511
00:34:33,286 --> 00:34:37,266
Yeah. That was awesome, dude. And when you first started the game,

512
00:34:37,466 --> 00:34:40,546
I remember I first started the game, and he's talking to you.

513
00:34:40,586 --> 00:34:42,386
I forgot what character I was talking to you. They're like, oh,

514
00:34:42,546 --> 00:34:46,166
I see you like Contra and Castlevania.

515
00:34:46,226 --> 00:34:48,226
I was like, dude, how's your – what?

516
00:34:48,646 --> 00:34:51,766
Like, what the hell? They're reading the memory card. shit like that dude was

517
00:34:51,766 --> 00:34:55,266
freaking genius man yeah that stuff was freaking cool,

518
00:34:55,766 --> 00:35:00,426
so i mean even that trick of like uh killing the boss by old age like who would

519
00:35:00,426 --> 00:35:05,886
have thought of that right exactly uh bad ass dude but going back to uh metal

520
00:35:05,886 --> 00:35:08,626
gear solid you're talking about i got one of the one of the things that i'm

521
00:35:08,626 --> 00:35:12,306
happy i got in my collection i got metal gear solid integral.

522
00:35:13,486 --> 00:35:16,246
Which was the japanese only release came with

523
00:35:16,246 --> 00:35:19,826
another disc extra content and then

524
00:35:19,826 --> 00:35:22,626
i got something that was kind of forgot about and it was

525
00:35:22,626 --> 00:35:25,486
released here in the states i don't know if you're familiar

526
00:35:25,486 --> 00:35:32,026
with this as a fan but the metal gear solid 2 the document yeah the documents

527
00:35:32,026 --> 00:35:37,226
of metal gear solid 2 and it's for for a fanboy this is great because it goes

528
00:35:37,226 --> 00:35:43,526
over like the creation of the game sound development script the polygon models,

529
00:35:44,006 --> 00:35:50,866
It talks about the first, they give you a first look at the new VR training in Substance.

530
00:35:51,086 --> 00:35:52,746
A bunch of special footage on it.

531
00:35:53,795 --> 00:35:57,315
If you are a Metal Gear fan, this is pretty tight. What were you going to say?

532
00:35:57,815 --> 00:36:01,235
Well, what's funny about the documented Metal Gear Solid 2 is I never understood

533
00:36:01,235 --> 00:36:06,435
why it was a PS2 game, technically, but really it was just a DVD. Yeah.

534
00:36:07,195 --> 00:36:08,955
Because it comes in a PS2 case.

535
00:36:10,055 --> 00:36:14,595
It's a real PS2 case. It says PS2 on top and everything. I think it even has a greeting.

536
00:36:16,415 --> 00:36:17,015
It has.

537
00:36:19,135 --> 00:36:22,835
It has an instruction manual. It's not an instruction manual.

538
00:36:22,835 --> 00:36:23,975
I've got the book inside, dude.

539
00:36:24,555 --> 00:36:26,695
Yeah, it's pretty good. I think that's why I bought it, because I was like,

540
00:36:26,735 --> 00:36:29,975
why did they put it in a PS2 case? You know what? I'm getting it.

541
00:36:30,535 --> 00:36:35,335
Even though I was... I don't know. I don't think it's worth that much money,

542
00:36:35,435 --> 00:36:39,015
but Metal Gear Solid fans are definitely out for it.

543
00:36:39,195 --> 00:36:42,755
And the reason why I got that was because...

544
00:36:43,175 --> 00:36:45,975
And here's my... Do you want me to go into my story about Metal Gear Solid 2?

545
00:36:46,715 --> 00:36:49,635
You can after this. One last thing I wanted to say. Yeah, yeah.

546
00:36:49,675 --> 00:36:52,235
For sure. I want to finish with your story.

547
00:36:52,835 --> 00:36:56,695
So I just wanted to quickly tell you, very quickly, to you and our audience,

548
00:36:56,915 --> 00:37:02,475
if you like Metal Gear Solid, let me tell you, there is a convention for you.

549
00:37:02,755 --> 00:37:06,315
That's right. There is a Metal Gear Solid convention in Long Beach, California.

550
00:37:06,675 --> 00:37:10,555
It is the second year that they're doing it. It's called MGS Con 2,

551
00:37:10,755 --> 00:37:12,835
Cons of Liberty. Haha, get it?

552
00:37:14,915 --> 00:37:20,495
July 20th, 2024, the Kickstarter is live. If you are a fan of Metal Gear Solid,

553
00:37:20,655 --> 00:37:22,835
you've got to go check it out. I'm going to try to attend this year.

554
00:37:23,095 --> 00:37:26,155
It is just go to mgscon.com.

555
00:37:26,495 --> 00:37:29,315
And then the way you get your ticket is you support their Kickstarter.

556
00:37:29,635 --> 00:37:33,995
They have prices as low as $5 and tiers all the way up to $100.

557
00:37:34,455 --> 00:37:41,095
And talking about Metal Gear Solid 3, they're going to try to have the woman

558
00:37:41,095 --> 00:37:44,195
who sung the theme song of Metal Gear Solid 3,

559
00:37:44,815 --> 00:37:49,375
if they can meet their goal, Cynthia Harrell will actually be there and perform

560
00:37:49,375 --> 00:37:52,015
Snake Eater live in front of everybody. Oh, wow.

561
00:37:52,985 --> 00:37:57,905
That'd be awesome. If you go, are you going to drop acid? Huh?

562
00:37:58,105 --> 00:37:59,565
Am I just solid acid? No? Nah.

563
00:38:00,285 --> 00:38:04,905
Will they let you smoke a cigarette inside? Because if they don't, that's bullshit.

564
00:38:05,885 --> 00:38:09,645
Can I walk around with a cardboard box? Like, come on. Oh, that'd be sick.

565
00:38:10,025 --> 00:38:12,945
That'd be sick if you go over there, dude, and what does it just say on there?

566
00:38:13,045 --> 00:38:15,445
Food or something like that? And just walk around? Dee-dee-dee.

567
00:38:15,885 --> 00:38:19,545
And have like a little slot, and that way somebody finds you,

568
00:38:19,545 --> 00:38:22,165
and you're like, oh, look at that guy in a box. You can put up the exclamation mark.

569
00:38:23,725 --> 00:38:25,985
And then be like what was that noise.

570
00:38:28,045 --> 00:38:30,785
Oh man yes go check that out

571
00:38:30,785 --> 00:38:34,165
on instagram as well at mgs con and please

572
00:38:34,165 --> 00:38:36,945
uh this is not a paid promotion this is just something i'm doing because i'm

573
00:38:36,945 --> 00:38:40,165
a fan so mgs con 2 memes jeans

574
00:38:40,165 --> 00:38:43,725
and snakes a metal gear fan convention mgs

575
00:38:43,725 --> 00:38:46,465
con 2 cons of liberty kickstarter go check

576
00:38:46,465 --> 00:38:49,805
them out all right let's hear your story good sir yeah real

577
00:38:49,805 --> 00:38:52,605
quick on metal gear solid 2 just read the the back right now because we're

578
00:38:52,605 --> 00:38:55,345
talking about armageddon and we might piss

579
00:38:55,345 --> 00:39:01,825
mike off but the powerful music score was composed by harry gregson williams

580
00:39:01,825 --> 00:39:10,365
who also did enemy of the state the rock and armageddon wow there you go that's

581
00:39:10,365 --> 00:39:13,685
why so here's here's my story about metal gear Solid 2.

582
00:39:13,965 --> 00:39:21,065
And one of the reasons why Hideo dropped on my list of favorite developers.

583
00:39:21,365 --> 00:39:24,385
And is it petty? Yes. Absolutely.

584
00:39:25,145 --> 00:39:30,845
And I'll own that. But I was such a big fan of Metal Gear Solid 1 and the Metal Gear game on NES.

585
00:39:32,365 --> 00:39:36,365
But Metal Gear Solid 2 was just revolutionary for me.

586
00:39:36,505 --> 00:39:40,425
So when they first announced Metal Gear Solid 1, when they first announced Metal

587
00:39:40,425 --> 00:39:43,505
Gear Solid 2, I could not wait for it to drop in America.

588
00:39:43,625 --> 00:39:46,465
So I imported the Japanese one

589
00:39:46,465 --> 00:39:53,105
and I found out there was a collector's edition, which cost me $250 plus.

590
00:39:53,705 --> 00:39:59,745
A lot of money back then for me, but I said, you know what? I'm going to get it. I got my PS2 chipped.

591
00:40:00,125 --> 00:40:04,385
It would be able to play Japanese games and majority of that game was in English anyway.

592
00:40:05,125 --> 00:40:08,945
So I went all out, paid for it to get chipped,

593
00:40:09,865 --> 00:40:12,545
prepaid for this collector's edition uh shout out to

594
00:40:12,545 --> 00:40:16,145
network videos no longer around but those in northern california know what network

595
00:40:16,145 --> 00:40:22,965
video is natty thank you so what comes in natty calls me up lou your metal gear's

596
00:40:22,965 --> 00:40:27,765
in fat awesome and i don't live close to this place takes me about an hour and

597
00:40:27,765 --> 00:40:31,505
a half sometimes two hours and then about three hours driving back because of.

598
00:40:32,487 --> 00:40:36,147
Because of traffic. I live in the Valley and this place is in the Bay Area, California.

599
00:40:36,367 --> 00:40:40,687
So anyways, I go pick it up and I'm super excited for this game. I bring it home.

600
00:40:41,207 --> 00:40:44,547
I got the collector's edition, man. Hell yeah. Bust open the game.

601
00:40:44,687 --> 00:40:47,387
And I'm one of those people that, you know, read the book, even though most

602
00:40:47,387 --> 00:40:48,707
of it was the Japanese at the time.

603
00:40:49,247 --> 00:40:52,887
There's a lot of English involved as well. And all the little extra stuff that comes with it.

604
00:40:52,927 --> 00:40:56,107
So I'm looking for all the extra stuff that comes with it. And it has like a

605
00:40:56,107 --> 00:40:57,267
little soundtrack with it. Cool.

606
00:40:57,867 --> 00:41:00,887
And I'm looking looking for all the other bells and whistles and there's

607
00:41:00,887 --> 00:41:08,047
really not anything and so i'm like what the hell what the hell is going on

608
00:41:08,047 --> 00:41:10,647
so i call them up and i was like hey i think there's some stuff missing out

609
00:41:10,647 --> 00:41:15,007
on my collector's edition and they're like well no and so they opened one that

610
00:41:15,007 --> 00:41:20,787
one of the workers opened one up and i was like why was this thing 250 dude i said i don't get it

611
00:41:21,207 --> 00:41:25,287
i could have just got the standard version for like 80 you know imported and

612
00:41:25,287 --> 00:41:31,167
been good he's like like no it comes with you see that baggie inside and I was

613
00:41:31,167 --> 00:41:34,547
like what baggie he's just like a little bag inside and I was like what are

614
00:41:34,547 --> 00:41:38,567
you talking about and so I open it back up again and I'm like,

615
00:41:39,247 --> 00:41:46,647
what the hell is this he's like it's a lock of Kojima's hair and I said you

616
00:41:46,647 --> 00:41:52,527
mean to tell me I spent $250 and all the gas and my time to go down there pick

617
00:41:52,527 --> 00:41:55,327
that up because this has a little,

618
00:41:56,207 --> 00:41:58,967
flipping of Hideo Kojima's hair on it?

619
00:41:59,947 --> 00:42:02,807
What the fuck? I was like, dude, I was so pissed. I was like,

620
00:42:02,807 --> 00:42:07,067
what weirdo wants this shit? I got so freaking pissed, dude.

621
00:42:07,927 --> 00:42:11,327
I regret it now, but I got rid of it.

622
00:42:11,787 --> 00:42:15,427
I forgot who I gave... I was so pissed off that I spent that much money because

623
00:42:15,427 --> 00:42:16,747
this guy put his own hair in it.

624
00:42:16,947 --> 00:42:20,807
And who knows? It could have been a pube. I don't know. I didn't even look at it, man.

625
00:42:21,127 --> 00:42:26,907
I got so pissed off, man. So essentially, all I did was get the game and a soundtrack, which I...

626
00:42:27,914 --> 00:42:32,714
You can pop in the DVD into a CD player, I think, and it plays the soundtrack anyway.

627
00:42:33,174 --> 00:42:37,234
But I was like, man, I can't believe I paid that much money because it had like

628
00:42:37,234 --> 00:42:41,234
a little tiny shaving of his hair in like a dime bag, dude.

629
00:42:42,354 --> 00:42:47,014
My question is, that must be so rare because I've never seen that before.

630
00:42:47,934 --> 00:42:51,374
Yeah, that's why I say I regret getting rid of it. Because had I have it now,

631
00:42:51,594 --> 00:42:56,834
I could probably sell that for a lot of money. And I would sell it because I was so pissed off.

632
00:42:57,254 --> 00:43:00,254
But that's how i thought i was so pissed dude at

633
00:43:00,254 --> 00:43:04,934
the time man i just i just wanted to get rid of it oh i was so mad i spent that

634
00:43:04,934 --> 00:43:07,874
much money on that because there was a bunch of other stuff that came out at

635
00:43:07,874 --> 00:43:10,454
the time i forgot what it was there was a bunch of dreamcast stuff that i wanted

636
00:43:10,454 --> 00:43:13,934
it was a neo geo game that i wanted at the time i could have got for a pretty

637
00:43:13,934 --> 00:43:18,234
good price over there and i'm just like fuck dude i was sitting here with a

638
00:43:18,234 --> 00:43:19,834
freaking little bag of hair and,

639
00:43:20,374 --> 00:43:23,174
and and metal gear solid 2 and it took me forever to pop

640
00:43:23,174 --> 00:43:27,014
in metal gear solid 2 i was so pissed eventually did and the

641
00:43:27,014 --> 00:43:29,934
story just got kind of crazy from there and the middle

642
00:43:29,934 --> 00:43:32,694
gear story at least and i was done i

643
00:43:32,694 --> 00:43:35,954
was done for a while it took me a long time to play three i eventually

644
00:43:35,954 --> 00:43:39,774
got over to three and i got over it i think honestly i think acid kind of brought

645
00:43:39,774 --> 00:43:42,894
me back like you were talking about the originality of it yeah it was a card

646
00:43:42,894 --> 00:43:49,594
game but it was very very well done pick up and play fun to play and i think

647
00:43:49,594 --> 00:43:52,974
i just get i got the other ones just because because there were Metal Gear,

648
00:43:53,074 --> 00:43:55,314
and I wanted it for my collection.

649
00:43:56,234 --> 00:44:00,794
But, yeah, that was my story. Deep down, you're a Metal Gear fan, though, deep down.

650
00:44:01,894 --> 00:44:06,774
I would have to say yes, and it goes back to Solid, well, like I said,

651
00:44:06,814 --> 00:44:10,474
I enjoyed the original Metal Gear that I played on the NES, I enjoyed it.

652
00:44:10,654 --> 00:44:12,194
But Metal Gear Solid 2 was...

653
00:44:13,475 --> 00:44:20,955
As far as like influences on me and enjoyment that I had, I had a ton of fun

654
00:44:20,955 --> 00:44:25,195
with the VR missions, man, me and my friend, Jesse played the shit out of the VR missions.

655
00:44:25,215 --> 00:44:29,735
And we would, we would, we would do, we would do, you know, just time trials

656
00:44:29,735 --> 00:44:33,595
to do who get them, get them done first, the smoothest, the quickest.

657
00:44:33,675 --> 00:44:36,295
And if you could do them a different way, we did that a lot with,

658
00:44:36,295 --> 00:44:38,715
oh man, what was that one game called?

659
00:44:39,095 --> 00:44:41,355
Mirror's Edge too. We killed it with Mirror's Edge.

660
00:44:41,935 --> 00:44:46,135
Time trials, man. man. Time trials were fun. But yeah, no, I'm a fan.

661
00:44:46,495 --> 00:44:49,155
More of one, definitely not because of two with a lock of hair.

662
00:44:50,715 --> 00:44:53,895
I do have one last tidbit of information.

663
00:44:54,135 --> 00:44:59,095
Do you remember a Konami skateboarding game called Evolution Skateboarding?

664
00:44:59,535 --> 00:45:00,935
I do. Absolutely.

665
00:45:01,555 --> 00:45:05,575
Did you know that there's an entire Metal Gear Solid skateboarding level there?

666
00:45:05,695 --> 00:45:08,855
You play the Metal Gear Solid 2. Sorry, sorry.

667
00:45:09,475 --> 00:45:13,415
From Metal Gear Solid 2, the whole entire thing takes place on the big shell,

668
00:45:13,555 --> 00:45:17,735
so you can actually skateboard in the entire big shell as Solid Snake and ride it.

669
00:45:17,875 --> 00:45:20,715
I would say as Solid Snake. I remember you could be Solid Snake on that one,

670
00:45:20,775 --> 00:45:24,855
and I think I could be wrong, but I believe it used the Metal Gear Solid engine, too.

671
00:45:25,435 --> 00:45:27,595
I think it did. That's why it was in that, right? Yeah.

672
00:45:29,195 --> 00:45:33,795
I think so, yeah. Evolution of Skateboarding, if you guys can find that one,

673
00:45:33,815 --> 00:45:34,555
definitely check that out.

674
00:45:35,195 --> 00:45:38,015
Okay, that was my little little love letter to

675
00:45:38,015 --> 00:45:42,275
metal gear full of love and hate at the same time truly

676
00:45:42,275 --> 00:45:45,395
something i can't wait for and metagrassal 3 thank you

677
00:45:45,395 --> 00:45:48,135
for all the memories you gave me 20 years i can't believe

678
00:45:48,135 --> 00:45:51,195
it's been 20 years and if you haven't played all three

679
00:45:51,195 --> 00:45:53,875
check it out it really is and then delta's on the

680
00:45:53,875 --> 00:45:56,835
way so if you haven't checked it out wait for the new remake and get

681
00:45:56,835 --> 00:46:02,615
it all in 4k glory with updated content updated i i think if they're remastering

682
00:46:02,615 --> 00:46:06,775
his voice like everything's being being remastered so go check that out medical

683
00:46:06,775 --> 00:46:11,475
solid 3 delta coming out later this year you got one last thing one last thing

684
00:46:11,475 --> 00:46:16,535
do you ever think speaking of kojima do you think they ever will finish and release pt,

685
00:46:17,778 --> 00:46:20,098
Oh, probably not. Well, I don't know. Actually, I don't know now.

686
00:46:20,138 --> 00:46:22,098
Let me rephrase that because I don't know if you,

687
00:46:22,158 --> 00:46:27,038
I think you must've seen that he's partnering with Jordan Peele in this new

688
00:46:27,038 --> 00:46:30,998
movie or this movie video game where they announced that he has another video

689
00:46:30,998 --> 00:46:33,138
game coming out and he's working with Monkey Paw Productions.

690
00:46:33,538 --> 00:46:37,238
So I think if that game comes out and does well, I think we will see a form

691
00:46:37,238 --> 00:46:41,858
of PT, but maybe not like what we originally saw. Okay.

692
00:46:43,158 --> 00:46:46,758
Yeah. I think it'll be a different take on it, I think. And then just because

693
00:46:46,758 --> 00:46:48,538
of the name, I wouldn't be surprised

694
00:46:48,538 --> 00:46:53,238
if they just said, oh, this is Hideo Kojima's and Monkey Paul's PT.

695
00:46:53,778 --> 00:46:55,498
You know what I mean? Yeah.

696
00:46:56,318 --> 00:47:01,278
But I don't know. We'll see. But without further ado, I'm Uncle Dad,

697
00:47:01,398 --> 00:47:04,278
and you can find me on Instagram at Uncle Dad Talks. And with me,

698
00:47:04,338 --> 00:47:08,138
as always, is my clever co-host, Mr.

699
00:47:08,378 --> 00:47:13,718
Retro Gaming Nomad. And you can find him on Instagram at Retro Gaming Nomad. All one word, correct?

700
00:47:14,578 --> 00:47:19,018
Correct. Correct. Retro Gaming Nomad. All one word.

701
00:47:19,718 --> 00:47:22,798
On my post, I try to throw a little backstory to some of the games.

702
00:47:23,118 --> 00:47:27,158
It's not just, oh, here's what I got. Check it out. So appreciate if you guys

703
00:47:27,158 --> 00:47:31,278
kind of read, give me some tidbits and what you guys would like to see more of. That'd be awesome.

704
00:47:32,198 --> 00:47:36,438
And maybe you can post a picture of all the Metal Gear games when I post this episode up.

705
00:47:37,698 --> 00:47:38,858
I'll try to find the lock of hair.

706
00:47:40,718 --> 00:47:41,838
Just use one of your own.

707
00:47:44,418 --> 00:47:47,178
All right everybody thank you thank you so much for listening we'll see you

708
00:47:47,178 --> 00:47:49,258
all next month peace love and.

709
00:47:49,360 --> 00:48:23,268
Music.