Find UncleDad and JustMike at DesignerCon Las Vegas Nov 15th - 17th
Nov. 28, 2024

Episode 151: UncleDad and JustMike "Live" at DesignerCon 2024

Episode 151: UncleDad and JustMike
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UncleDad Talks

Hey there, friends! Welcome to an exciting episode of Uncle Dad Talks, where Uncle Dad hangs out with the one and only tarot-certified sexy man, Just Mike. This time around, we're immersing ourselves in the vibrant world of DesignerCon 2024 in Las Vegas. It's a first-time experience for Mike, and we're feeling all sorts of overwhelmed and thrilled as we dive into this lively convention. This event is a con we've always wanted to explore, and it's finally happening!

We've got loads of exciting interviews lined up for you, including chats with the coolest marketing brain Autumn from Tramped, a collector's haven for designer toy enthusiasts, and Alex Bame from Tangible Interaction, showing off their intriguing Graffiti Plus initiative. But that's not all! We were fortunate enough to have some time with the iconic DJ Lance Rock and get a sneak peek into some upcoming collaborative projects.

As if that's not enough adventure for one episode, we also dive into a fun unboxing session of the "My Homies" mystery box from Cheech and Chong. It's a treasure trove of goodies that had us grinning from ear to ear. Oh, and we've got a special segment where we tackle expired eats and drinks—because what's an adventure without a little risk, right? We even embark on a ghost-hunting expedition at the infamous Hotel Apache. Who knows what spooky secrets lurk in its halls?

The art scenes, engaging conversations, and laughter are not to be missed, and we've saved a little room for surprises and mischief along the way. So, grab a seat, your favorite snack, and join us on this rollicking journey through DesignerCon 2024. Cheers to Vegas adventures and discovering the artists that make the world a more colorful place. Stay tuned till the end for more exciting snippets and a peek behind the curtain of our crazy escapades!

Chapters

01:26 - The Excitement of Designer Con

02:18 - First Impressions of a Live Event

02:31 - The Magic of Tramped

03:23 - Exploring Graffiti Plus

07:08 - Meeting DJ Lance Rock

11:32 - A Chat with Mike Polis

13:50 - The Return of Joe Gabba Gabba

14:52 - Anticipation of New Collaborations

15:46 - Accessibility in Toys

19:02 - Musical Legends: Prince vs. Bowie

22:25 - Connecting with Meow Wolf

24:04 - The Uniqueness of Omega Mart

30:52 - Ghost Hunting in Hotel Apache

38:23 - Day Two Adventures

44:13 - Retro Eats Segment

46:35 - Cheech and Chong Mystery Box

01:04:29 - Reflections on Designer Con

01:11:25 - Looking Ahead: Future Conventions

Transcript
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Yeah whatever everybody uncle dad here hanging out with the one and only

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the tarot certified sexy man i think it's gonna be your

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name going forward the one and only just mike just mike what's up

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tarot certified tarot certified yes

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can we make a sticker for that i think that's a good idea i'll work

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on it okay do it do today i'll put it on the list okay i

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gotcha mike we are here together if you

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can hear that in the background we are here together at a live convention

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all the live one of my favorite conventions

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i do every year for a while sort of my second

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time here your first time here we are at designer

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con las vegas mike what does that feel

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like i i'm overwhelmed like over like oversensitized

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looking around and and uh and now we're

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recording so you know it's just like wham bam

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bam yeah it's exciting it's crazy because this is

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a con you've always wanted to go to like your whole uh adult career

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my adult career not my childhood career but

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my adult career yes thank you yeah yeah i would say

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so last year you weren't able to make it because i believe you

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were working a different convention somewhere on whatever in the amazon but

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and this you know this last year was

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great but this year we're in las vegas designer con las vegas we got to interview

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ben goretzky i remembered mike what do you think i think you said his name right

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yeah goretzky correct course goretzky wordsky oh fuck all right it's fine anyways

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we're here hanging out having a great time and it's it's preview night media night.

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The energy is everywhere you can feel it illuminating and

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we're not alone we have our content producer let's give

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it up for the one and only kelly donald bart you

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got to say hello kelly donald bart how are you hello i'm doing

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great how are you guys great how do you how does it feel for

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you to be here too oh it's exciting it feels kind

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of like comic-con in san diego but for artists

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but for artists exactly which is better yeah it's

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like we're in artist alley slash small press

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at comic-con and it took steroids and it's

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in vegas exactly and we've already had too much

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fun in vegas as we always do but mike we're just

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we're just filling things out today we're gonna check it out we're gonna see

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where we can line up but i gotta tell you what i'm really excited about is seeing

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your face for the first time experiencing this just watch my face i i wish the

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listeners could see my face while we're here but well guess what at 2025.

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We'll have full video coming.

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And we'll also have content from our content producer, Kelly Dunlap Art.

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Hell yeah, Kelly Dunlap Art. We're doing pictures right now.

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You guys can't see it, but here we go. One, two, three, picture. Let's go.

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Alright, everybody, we'll be right back after this break. Enjoy yourself.

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Have a good time. Grab a beer because this one is going to be a good time.

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Hey, what's up, everybody? This is Ming Chen from ABC's Comic Book Man.

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You may have seen me a couple of Kevin Smith movies or just riding

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on his coattails he also taught me how to

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podcast i love podcasting i have podcasts i podcast studios none of that matters

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because the only thing that matters uncle dad talks everybody uncle dad talks

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we go way back he's an inspiration he makes me be a better podcaster and he's

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all i want to listen to so when uncle dad talks you should be listening listen up everybody.

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Hey everybody, Uncle Dad here, hanging out with somebody very,

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very cool with a very cool idea. I'm hanging out with Autumn,

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the head of marketing, correct?

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Yes, yes. And that is of Tramped. Tramped, that's right.

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So for our audience that doesn't know exactly what Tramped is,

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because it's a very interesting idea. Can you tell what it is?

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Absolutely. It is an app, a collector's database and marketplace specifically

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for the designer toy industry. So if you are a designer toy collector.

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Urban art, lowbrow art collector, this is the platform for you.

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So we have a database. We've been around for 10 years.

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We've been collecting a database of over so far 270,000 pieces and adding because

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it's been like a Wikipedia of designer toys.

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Anybody can go on there and add pieces that aren't in the database yet.

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And artists can come in and claim their page and update it, make sure it's accurate.

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And they can do drops in real time to the collectors who can buy directly from them.

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And we are also just about to launch the marketplace aspect of it,

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where you can buy and sell like eBay, but the percentage, some of that goes

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to the artists, so they get royalties, and it helps to support your favorite artists.

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You can also discover new artists.

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You can manage your collection by finding the pieces in the database that you

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already own, and you add it to your haves.

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And then if you're thinking about what you still want to find,

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you add those to your wants.

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And you can turn on notifications that says, if somebody in this community is

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trying to sell what I want, it'll put you guys together. Really? Yes.

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Wow. So that's... That's a lot.

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I know. I've got to process for a second. Where does that idea come from, though?

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Like, what made... Because if you don't mind me asking, so if we can know,

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who is the founder of this brand?

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Okay. So the CEO and founder, his name is Keegan Rooney. He is himself a designer,

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toy collector, and artist.

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And he's just always been a big fan. And one of the things that he knew was

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it's hard to find what's out there.

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And so he created this as a database for collectors just on the side for fun.

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And as it grew over the years, he saw it could also solve other problems like

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making, you know, people buying and selling from each other in a way without bots.

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One of the other challenges is when an artist is doing a very limited run or

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a limited drop, there's a lot of bots that come in too and that kind of mess up that lottery system.

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We have a very it's very hard for bots

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to get in on our lottery system so basically if an artist is

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going to do a drop of maybe only 15 pieces in order

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to enter for that drop you have to put your payment information in

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to commit that you are going to buy it and then

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when the lottery runs if you did get selected it

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charges your account it gets shipped to you if you did not nothing gets charged

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so that's a way to combat bots so that everybody has a fair equal chance so

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that was some finding some ways to problem solve some of the things that make

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it hard to collect is what caused this company to be built. Wow. That's incredible.

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Can anybody sign up for this right now? Absolutely. It's totally free at all

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times. It's free for artists and it's free for collectors. And you either,

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there's an app that you can download.

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It's called Tramped, T-R-A-M-P-T. And you can go to Tramped.com and it works in either place.

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I love that. And you're doing a special like collaboration here at DesignerCon.

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Can you just, we'll talk to somebody else about that, but can you just give

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a quick little like taste of what that is? Sure.

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So here in our booth, we've done a collaboration, a partnership with a company

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called Graffiti Plus. and they do giant graffiti or digital graffiti walls.

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So you're using a little spray can handle to grab a blank. We have partnered

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with Super Plastic and a lot of other companies to get their 3D rendering into

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this system. So you can grab a janky that's blank.

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You can customize it with your own design and then you can download that onto

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your phone as an AR collectible.

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Wow. Very cool. So Graffiti Plus is the name of that company and they do these

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all over the place the different experiences and parties and conventions.

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They're pretty amazing.

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Okay. So we'll be right back, everybody, with learning about the technology.

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But before we do that, where can our audience learn more about Tramped?

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And where can they learn more about how to be involved in that? Absolutely.

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Okay. So you can go to our Instagram account. It's just at Tramped.

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Again, T-R-A-M-P-T. Or you can go to Tramped.com.

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Easy. Yeah, absolutely. Thank you so much for your time. I absolutely appreciate

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it. You're very welcome. Thank you.

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So just Mike here. and I'm here at a booth where I did some really cool stuff,

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which I haven't done in a long time, but I didn't really deface anything.

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I was spray painting. There was even a marble in the can, but there was no paint coming out.

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And I'm here with, are you the owner, creator?

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Yes, both. Please tell our audience who you are and explain Graffiti Plus. Sure. Yes?

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Yeah, my name is Alex Bame and I have a company called Tangible Interaction,

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and Graffiti Plus is kind of like our main experiential product.

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I used to, I still do some graffiti, but I did a lot of graffiti when I was

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a kid and always find it to be like a very fun and empowering activity,

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you know, and as technology now allows us to do more and more,

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we can now bring it into settings like this.

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So we have been doing digital graffiti for about 17 years now.

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Digital graffiti, that's fun. So like, just explain to our audience like what

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that means, digital graffiti, because I'm here. I can do it.

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There's a lot of people that are trying it out. People are having a lot of fun trying it out.

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Tell our audience what that means and how it works, please.

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Yeah, so we try to make it an experience that is as similar as the real thing.

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So you basically grab a graffiti can that looks like a graffiti can.

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It has about the same weight. It rattles, and then you can point it at the screen and paint.

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We detect the can in 3D space, so when you move it up and down,

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it flares. That's all the stuff that a real graffiti can would do.

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And then we created a system, the software, the tracking system, everything.

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And what we're doing here for

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DesignerCon is we brought in 3D models or a bunch of well-known artists.

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And we're allowing people to customize the vinyl toys and then capture our scanner

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QR code and capture an AR.

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So they can actually take the AR with them of the piece that they made.

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Kind of like collaboration between the audience and

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the artist yeah that's really cool like we tried it

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it does it feel it feels really cool like you

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you go back the spray goes wide you

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go in it goes tight it is very much like the real thing so

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when you did do graffiti i guess you still do sometimes what

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what's your uh what was your tag name what was your

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graph name i terro which is d-e-r-o yeah

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and where are you from originally from uruguay but

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i i i'm in canadian too i live in canada yeah what

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part of canada vancouver beautiful place beautiful

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place so yeah i when i did graffiti i

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i my tag name was tune because i drew cartoons got

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in trouble a couple times that's that's par for the course right of course

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yeah so how do people like if they wanted to do this do they when they go to

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purchase it is it something where they get the can and the software like how

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does all that work no it's not a product it's not a consumer product it's more

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like uh something that is like business to business we do a lot of events a lot of festivals,

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we fly around the world doing this kind of stuff oh that's really fun so you

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get to go different places connect with different artists and then you get to

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see people have a lot of fun with the art which i mean we're watching people

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do it right now there's a little girl doing it There's a guy with a Deadpool backpack doing it.

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Super fun. Well, thanks for bringing it up. Where can people find out more about

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it and follow you and see where you're going to be? So it's graffitiplus.io.

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And our hashtag, our Instagram is also at graffitiplus.io.

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Well, Alex, thank you so much for talking to us. And thanks for letting us play.

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And thanks for bringing your great creative mind to DesignerCon. Thank you so much.

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Music.

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We are with the one and only Mike Polis, who owns Atomic Toy Box.

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Is that correct? That's right.

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We also have somebody who's even more legendary, who has shaped childhoods, who have changed lives.

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Let's give it up for DJ Lance Rock. Hello, friends. How are you? Wow, wow, wow.

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DJ Lance Rock, I just got to say this. It is an honor and a pleasure to have you on our show.

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Thank you, Uncle Dad. What is it like being just a part of that world,

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that universe, and still celebrating that universe? I mean, it's pretty...

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Wow. You would think I'd have an answer for this.

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It's a really great experience because it's really a responsibility because people grew up with it.

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And so you get to see it's kind of like being a gardener.

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So you plant a tree or a plant and watch it take bloom.

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And so a lot of people are like, I got into music because of you.

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I'm an artist because of you. So it's kind of humbling sometimes,

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but it's very cool that there's like a generation of really cool, creative people.

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I love that. I love that. And Mike, I should have mentioned this and I apologize

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that I didn't, but you are the producer, right? One of the producers of the show.

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And the show we're talking about, if we don't realize this by now, is Joe Gabba Gabba.

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How was that process like to get that out there and all that good stuff?

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It was what a process right

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what what a process uh quiet on

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the set please it was great

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it was one of those things that that changed a lot of

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kids lives working with nickelodeon working with all the talent in fact i'll

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tell you one fun thing so my son who is now 24 and working here at the show

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did a cool trick on yo gabba gabba and and And I love the fact that I can rib him about this forever.

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He was a, what did he do? He did a pogo stick, I think was his, that was his cool trick.

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But it was fun to put together. It was a great show.

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And I'm just happy that many years later, Lance and I are still good friends.

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I love that, Mike. I know you're beaming with excitement right now.

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Well, you mentioned friends and Uncle Dad and I are friends.

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How long have you guys been friends and how great is it to work on such cool stuff,

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I mean, you just told me you guys are friends. So like, how is that for you guys?

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It's been about 18 years that we've known each other and we finally are coming

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together again to do something new or to continue the DJ Lance rock legacy.

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And the time is right now. We tried some other times and, you know,

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the stars don't always align, but right now it's like, I think we're ready to

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take the baton and run with it.

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Yeah, I mean, you gotta go where the threat takes you. You know,

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listen to the universe, right?

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Absolutely. And couldn't be more excited than doing it with Lance, DJ Lance Rock.

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DJ Lance, like you got the fresh Adidas shell toes with the orange stripes.

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You got the orange, you know, track suit. Like why orange for you?

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At the time, it was my favorite color. I didn't really think it through.

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They're like, what's your favorite color? So if I'm wearing orange now, I'm working.

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That's the only time I'm wearing orange. I'm working. So otherwise you're wearing blue or something.

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Nothing but nothing orange only when you're working

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purple or lime green i like purple wow

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that's a great choice on that so what we want to talk about too is the collaboration

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that we're guys are doing and so can you tell our audience a little about about

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that and how they can get a hold of that all that good stuff we can't talk about

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it just yet oh so this is a little bit of an exclusive kind of conversation

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because we haven't really said anything to anyone.

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But yeah, it's coming soon, is all I can really say. We can't say nothing.

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Not yet. Not what it is, nothing. Okay.

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But when it does come, we're in for a world shake.

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It's going to be amazing, right? No, it's absolutely going to be super fun,

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accessible to everybody, which is kind of what we're after, right?

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There's no reason why everyone shouldn't have fun. I love that.

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And I want to ask you this.

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Accessibility, fun, all of that. How important is that to a child?

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I don't know how important it is but it should be important it should be like when we were growing up,

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we didn't have phones and we could access everything and be like oh I want this

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now I want that and so hey you got one toy maybe a month and that's exactly.

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You're living large if you get that but you were happy

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with that you didn't always constantly want something more and

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you had the stuff and you appreciated it you know yeah you know

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i love that and i love that you're thinking about that mike i

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love that you're thinking about how that should be forward thinking because

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i think that's something we forget about is the accessibility of things

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right that's so important to the youth so even and

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also even to the older folk too just making it easier to connect to that mike

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i'm sorry i don't want to get too on my soapbox on that but i love that we're

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just thinking about that so before can i elaborate on this please because one

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of the things is like once gabba took off when we started doing the live shows

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you know people would come and it's like our family is six they can't afford

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to buy every single thing there.

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So we always try to be mindful, like, okay,

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we've got like Kid Robot and we've got all these collector things that are kind

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of more exclusive, but we also wanted to have toys that you could go somewhere

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and like, you know, if you've got four kids, you can at least buy some for them.

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How important is that to you too, Mike? Because I know we grew up kind of the

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same. Yeah, I mean, I always got broken-ass toys.

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It was just definitely not a brand-new toy. So thank you for having that in

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mind when you do what you guys do. Thank you. Absolutely.

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And really quickly, talk about Atomic Toy Box, Mike.

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What exactly can our fans expect from your brand in general?

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And where can they buy the toys that are out now?

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So we have a place called atomic-nerd.com where we have a lot of our collectibles.

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That's the place you can find it. The stuff that you can find there is Garbage

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Pail Kids, Mars Attacks, Captain Action.

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One of the things that we do is we do original product. So Wicked Creatures

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is something that concocted with a couple of friends of mine.

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This guy, Ed Eith, who was a fantastic... I was at Muppets for years. He was a Muppet as well.

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And another guy that I've collaborated with on it is Chris Wayless, who created Gremlins.

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So we've got that kind of stuff. It's, you know, we're trying to make stuff

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that's fun, has an artistic element to it that people can appreciate.

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And one of the great things about the collaboration that we're talking about

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for the future is that kids and adults are, they are our target.

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We don't talk down to kids because I think it's ridiculous that a lot of shows do that.

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Kids are smart. They cut right to it.

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If you want an honest answer about anything, ask a kid.

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They're going to tell you whether you want to get it or not.

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And I love that about them.

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Music is obviously an incredibly important part of it. And that's what brings

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both kids and adults together.

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If they both love the music and they love the design and love the characters,

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that's all that matters.

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I absolutely love that. So we got to wrap up here, but I just got to ask you

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one very important question.

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Very important question to both of you. I'm going to ask you first,

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Michael, and then I'm going to ask you next, DJ Lance Rock.

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First question is, who's the better musician, Prince or David Bowie?

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Ooh, that is a, That is a harsh, that is a harsh question.

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I would say, man, I'm going to have to go with Prince because as a guitarist, he was phenomenal.

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Bowie, I mean, Bowie changed music.

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So did Prince. But I mean, if you're talking about, I think that's where I'd

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have to go. I'd go with Prince.

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All right. This is what we all want to know. DJ Lance Rock. prince

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or bowie i will qualify by

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saying prince however david

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bowie is my all-time favorite artist he's like

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my probably my biggest inspiration but

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prince had the i got to see him because we were doing gaba the live shows and

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made a little bit of money back then i most expensive show i ever went to see

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was prince at the troubadour because that place only holds 300 people And so

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Jonathan Halpern from the Glass House got his tickets.

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So we went there and being like from here to that dude to seeing Prince and

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watching him, it was like James Brown and Jimi Hendrix had a kid.

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And just the rate that his personality, his presence was just like so electric.

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But to be able to see him play, he's a virtuoso.

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So he's just probably there's no other musician like Prince.

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Story sure yeah if you guys got time let's do it so i was working at henson

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and one of the things i wanted to do was do a live show of labyrinth broadway

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show so we talked to brian henson,

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and we chatted about trying to figure out how to do it and so bowie is obviously

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a god you know so we got to brian's like brian brings me he calls me into his

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office he's like hey listen We're going to talk to David.

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And I'm thinking, David who?

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So David gets on the phone. It's David Bowie. We're doing a conference call

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with David Bowie to talk about the labyrinth idea, which he thinks is really,

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really cool and interesting.

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And it was just it was just fantastic. He's such a nice guy.

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He was he was thoughtful.

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And it was just it was just a lovely, lovely experience.

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Great, great chat. I mean, I was I was kind of quiet for most of it because

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I was a little bit starstruck. But what a talent.

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Wow. Mike, you can answer real fast. Well, I say Prince just because according

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to some sources, Prince could ball his ass off, right? Like he could play basketball very well, right?

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And so I, being an NBA fan, I also respect that. So Prince, yes.

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I don't remember. All right. All right. So before we wrap up,

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DJ Lance Rock, where can our audience still connect with you and learn more

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about all the things you're doing?

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DJ Lance Rock, OG. OG. It's on Instagram.

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Okay. It's the only socials I have, so I'm not real plugged into these modern

00:22:12.931 --> 00:22:17.471
social medias that the kids do, but you can maybe get me there.

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All right. I love that. And then where can they connect with you online and

00:22:19.851 --> 00:22:20.451
all that good stuff, Mike?

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Atomictoybox or atomictoybox.com. Easy. Awesome.

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Thank you, gentlemen, so much. I absolutely appreciate it. Thank you,

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guys. An absolute dream come true. Thank you.

00:22:28.891 --> 00:22:32.431
Thanks so much for having me. Thank you, Uncle Dad. Dad, next time you got to

00:22:32.431 --> 00:22:35.631
share the mic a little bit more with Mike because that's one of the lessons

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we always try to teach is sharing is caring. You know, the one time I don't do that.

00:22:40.691 --> 00:22:43.211
Yeah. Well, the one time. Yeah, right. Yeah.

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All right, everybody. Uncle Dad, back at DesignerCon, hanging out with Just

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Mike. Just Mike, as always, say hello.

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I'm really excited about what we're going to do right now. He said say hello. Oh, hello.

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I'm just kidding. Mike we're with somebody who shares a name with you but the

00:23:00.371 --> 00:23:06.291
difference between them is they go by Michael and they are an international

00:23:06.291 --> 00:23:11.071
celebrity not like you clearly yeah no not like me at all,

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They are, I'm so excited to have them on. This whole entire property means a

00:23:16.442 --> 00:23:18.302
lot to me. I know it means a lot to you.

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So let's go ahead and introduce, or have them introduce themselves to our audience.

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Michael, who are you? What do you do? Oh, hey. Oh, hello.

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I'm Michael Duffield. I'm the public relations manager here for Meow Wolf's

00:23:32.662 --> 00:23:34.622
Omega Mart in Las Vegas, Nevada.

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Wow. So now for those who don't know what Omega Mart is, it's the best grocery

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store you can ever go to. It is where reality checks out.

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It's America's most exceptional grocery store. We are part of the Meow Wolf

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collection of art exhibits, art and experiential exhibits that started in Santa Fe, New Mexico.

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And then we came here in Las Vegas, followed by an exhibit in Denver, Dallas, and Houston.

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Radio Tave just opened on Halloween.

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And Omega Mart here in Las Vegas is a perfectly ordinary grocery store.

00:24:13.222 --> 00:24:16.362
Perfectly ordinary. That's how I like to describe Mike. Mike,

00:24:16.502 --> 00:24:20.142
what are your thoughts on Meow Wolf and what Mike does and all that fun stuff?

00:24:20.302 --> 00:24:24.922
Well, I first went to the Santa Fe Meow Wolf years ago.

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I alone and but i really

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love the omega mart like the the shopping experience that's there that that

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slowly turns into a different experience right so like how do you how do you

00:24:37.002 --> 00:24:43.002
find your way to meow wolf and omega mart or did they come find you you personally

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me personally it is a long and.

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Tremendously boring, slightly funny, sometimes interesting story.

00:24:53.882 --> 00:24:57.682
I, let's see, I'm going to try to Reader's Digest this. My mom and dad moved

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here in 1998, so I've been coming to Las Vegas for years and years and years.

00:25:03.002 --> 00:25:08.562
Through a series of events, I ended up here full-time, kind of giving them a hand, and.

00:25:10.826 --> 00:25:16.066
At one point, I thought maybe I should just live here, and my background is

00:25:16.066 --> 00:25:20.406
in food and consumer packaged goods and grocery.

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So I used to do PR for Whole Foods Market in Austin, Texas.

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So I come from food, and now I'm in an art exhibit, but it happens to be a grocery store.

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I have no idea how this all happened, but what's cool about it is I think Meow Wolf finds you.

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And so it was meant to be. And boy, am I having a good time telling people about

00:25:46.846 --> 00:25:52.446
this place because there's a lot of stories to tell and a lot of things to see.

00:25:52.666 --> 00:25:56.226
And, you know, if it's something you can pick up off the shelf,

00:25:56.226 --> 00:25:57.686
it's art you can buy and take home.

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If it's attached, it's permanently part of the exhibit.

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And what people don't often realize is of the hundreds and hundreds of products

00:26:06.986 --> 00:26:12.426
in the store, every single one of them had to be designed and created and named

00:26:12.426 --> 00:26:15.346
and the labels written and the labels designed.

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And so each individual thing is a piece of art in the greater sort of world

00:26:24.266 --> 00:26:27.026
of our 52,000 square feet full of art.

00:26:28.399 --> 00:26:32.419
Mike, you know, you're an artist yourself, and I'm curious, what was your experience

00:26:32.419 --> 00:26:34.059
when you're going into the grocery store?

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I mean, it is great because, yeah, you can pick up all these things,

00:26:37.959 --> 00:26:41.879
boxes, cans, you know, like chips.

00:26:42.119 --> 00:26:45.599
But there's, like, all these clever descriptions on them, which,

00:26:45.719 --> 00:26:48.519
you know, like cheese. I don't remember what it was.

00:26:48.959 --> 00:26:53.079
Cheese or something. And then it says, or it's butter. But what is it?

00:26:53.339 --> 00:26:58.579
Like, I love. It's butter. Yeah, I love that there's also a little commentary

00:26:58.579 --> 00:27:05.499
beneath just the design. There's also a little social commentary on what is

00:27:05.499 --> 00:27:08.199
in all the weird stuff that we consume all the time, right?

00:27:08.659 --> 00:27:11.139
Yeah, what is that like to be part of that social commentary?

00:27:11.359 --> 00:27:15.379
Do you feel like you're making a big statement or we're just inviting people

00:27:15.379 --> 00:27:16.919
in to have a good time and explore?

00:27:17.559 --> 00:27:20.979
All right, that's a smart answer. However, you know, while you're in the store,

00:27:21.179 --> 00:27:26.199
you also may see some of your fellow shoppers disappearing because you may stumble

00:27:26.199 --> 00:27:30.879
into a portal into a whole other realm of experience and exploration.

00:27:31.419 --> 00:27:36.499
Oh, wow. So I got to ask you so we can tell our audience, how can they explore

00:27:36.499 --> 00:27:39.759
the store and how can they be a part of this adventure?

00:27:40.259 --> 00:27:43.759
Just come and visit us here in the Neon Desert.

00:27:44.099 --> 00:27:49.159
We're just five, 10 minute Uber off the strip. If you drive in from other places,

00:27:49.419 --> 00:27:52.539
we have a huge amount of parking in our space that's for free.

00:27:52.759 --> 00:27:57.099
Well, not in our space. That would be very dangerous. But outside the building, you know.

00:27:58.159 --> 00:28:02.359
And plan on spending a few hours. You know, every one of our exhibits has a

00:28:02.359 --> 00:28:04.559
little bit of a narrative to explore.

00:28:04.899 --> 00:28:06.859
In some places, it's a family drama.

00:28:08.039 --> 00:28:12.099
In other places, it's about a civilization. In our world, it's about a father

00:28:12.099 --> 00:28:13.499
and daughter and their relationship.

00:28:14.499 --> 00:28:19.879
And it grows from there. And as you're exploring, you can choose to follow the

00:28:19.879 --> 00:28:21.619
narrative, but you don't have to.

00:28:21.879 --> 00:28:26.579
It's light, it's color, it's space, it's mind-bending. So you can...

00:28:27.814 --> 00:28:31.734
Basically, your exploration is your own. It is what you make of it.

00:28:31.834 --> 00:28:34.234
And your curiosity is rewarded at every turn.

00:28:34.434 --> 00:28:39.214
So if the phone rings, answer it. If the door opens, open it and go through it.

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If you can open a desk drawer, look inside it and just have a great time.

00:28:43.554 --> 00:28:48.074
Oh my gosh, I love it so much. Mike, do you have any last words before I ask my last question?

00:28:49.434 --> 00:28:57.174
A last word. I do also appreciate that there's monitors, monitoring people inside.

00:28:57.174 --> 00:29:02.634
So that if someone's exploring and maybe needs some help, they can get some help.

00:29:03.474 --> 00:29:07.014
Am I coming across clear to what I'm saying here?

00:29:07.114 --> 00:29:11.454
There are folks in and about the store and in and about the worlds,

00:29:12.054 --> 00:29:15.214
scientists, people in aprons in the meat case.

00:29:15.374 --> 00:29:18.594
There are people around that can answer questions and give you direction and

00:29:18.594 --> 00:29:22.274
maybe clarify things that may seem a little strange or muddy.

00:29:22.734 --> 00:29:25.634
Oh, man. Well, go check them out. And what was the website?

00:29:26.374 --> 00:29:29.214
Their website yes then our main site is

00:29:29.214 --> 00:29:32.134
meowwolf.com and then

00:29:32.134 --> 00:29:36.014
you can pull down to visit las vegas and that's go straight to omega mart's

00:29:36.014 --> 00:29:40.154
fun page on the meow wolf website awesome i love that and last question here

00:29:40.154 --> 00:29:44.974
we go it's a big one what are your top three grocery stores in the real world

00:29:44.974 --> 00:29:50.494
in the real world in the real world i used to love central market in texas,

00:29:51.034 --> 00:29:54.754
I go bizonkers for Aldi. Aldi, hell yeah.

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Sometimes gross out, grocery outlet. We call it gross out. Sometimes it can be fun.

00:30:02.654 --> 00:30:07.614
Sometimes not. So, you know, I worked for Whole Foods, so it's not on my list.

00:30:07.774 --> 00:30:13.014
But yeah, those are, I mean, back in the day, there were some really fun ones

00:30:13.014 --> 00:30:16.494
growing up in Chicago, but I like little bitty ones too.

00:30:16.494 --> 00:30:22.894
You know, a lot of cities have these really cool, tiny markets that not just

00:30:22.894 --> 00:30:26.314
bodegas, but like a little market where they make things and they,

00:30:26.434 --> 00:30:29.834
you know, they have it's a tiny neighborhood market.

00:30:29.994 --> 00:30:33.314
Those I really love. We don't have a lot of those here in the desert yet.

00:30:33.314 --> 00:30:38.074
But as the city matures and sous chefs run away from five star restaurants,

00:30:38.174 --> 00:30:39.114
they're going to open businesses.

00:30:39.454 --> 00:30:43.234
And so hopefully we'll get a groovy grocery store. Plus, we also have Cardenas

00:30:43.234 --> 00:30:47.854
and La Bonita and Mariana's, which are all great Mexican grocery stores.

00:30:48.174 --> 00:30:51.534
I love that because I love Mexican food because I'm Mexican.

00:30:52.314 --> 00:30:56.734
Anyways, without further ado, please go check them out. Omega Mart at the Meow

00:30:56.734 --> 00:30:59.414
Wolf in Las Vegas. We'll be right back after this break.

00:31:01.248 --> 00:31:07.128
Hi, I'm Lonnie Millsap, and I'm the New Yorker cartoonist, and I listen to Uncle Dad Talks.

00:31:08.228 --> 00:31:11.768
All right, Uncle Dad here, hanging out with two legends, but one's really the

00:31:11.768 --> 00:31:12.768
legend. The other guy's all right.

00:31:13.008 --> 00:31:15.688
Let's give it up for somebody. Actually, you know what, Mike?

00:31:15.808 --> 00:31:16.888
You should introduce this gentleman.

00:31:17.148 --> 00:31:20.908
Who is this gentleman? Who are we hanging out with right now? Tash. Katash.

00:31:22.008 --> 00:31:25.868
Because I'm whack, and he's Tash, and that's the motherfucking difference, right?

00:31:26.188 --> 00:31:29.168
Yeah, that's what I heard, man. But why you call yourself whack,

00:31:29.268 --> 00:31:33.928
though? I don't understand that part. You keep saying that, but how's the verse go again?

00:31:34.708 --> 00:31:38.028
Slur words, double vision, brain busting, hair rusts if I'm too drunk to walk.

00:31:38.128 --> 00:31:39.048
I'll walk to a party. That one?

00:31:39.248 --> 00:31:42.148
Yes, that one. That's what he was singing to me when he walked up to me.

00:31:42.168 --> 00:31:43.948
I was like, holy shit, he know the words better than me.

00:31:45.028 --> 00:31:48.768
I mean, I'm self-deprecating humor. It's just what I do.

00:31:48.888 --> 00:31:52.388
But yo, so we're here at Designer Con, and you're at the Hip Hop Toys booth.

00:31:52.528 --> 00:31:54.528
So what are you doing in conjunction with these folks?

00:31:54.968 --> 00:31:58.048
Well, we've been friends for a long time and everything, and I see that they got...

00:31:58.048 --> 00:32:00.848
Like basically i saw that they had a far side watch out so

00:32:00.848 --> 00:32:03.608
i called my boy trent and i said man i like that watch that you did for

00:32:03.608 --> 00:32:07.128
the far side we started talking and next thing you know he came with an alcoholic

00:32:07.128 --> 00:32:12.808
version of the g-shock rapper collection that they came with and then they want

00:32:12.808 --> 00:32:16.508
to do a like a figure attach and everything so we had we came up here to plan

00:32:16.508 --> 00:32:22.388
it out so i'm gonna be like a super that's what tash really stand for t-a-s-h the alcoholic.

00:32:23.568 --> 00:32:26.228
Superhero oh okay i fucking i dig it i

00:32:26.228 --> 00:32:29.508
dig it okay so deluxe alcoholics are

00:32:29.508 --> 00:32:32.568
you are you still an alcoholic are you have you come down like

00:32:32.568 --> 00:32:36.568
how is all that going okay let me tell you this i had a life-changing experience

00:32:36.568 --> 00:32:40.708
four years ago and i can't tell you what happened but it deterred me from drinking

00:32:40.708 --> 00:32:44.188
ever again so i haven't picked up a drink in four years but i smoke a lot of

00:32:44.188 --> 00:32:47.928
weed now so i kind of like it better you know what i mean so so if you did another

00:32:47.928 --> 00:32:50.968
album it would be like The smokers,

00:32:51.148 --> 00:32:53.148
not the alcoholics. The smokaholics, yeah.

00:32:54.148 --> 00:32:57.348
Smokaholics. I dig it. I dig it. Not the soberholics. The smokaholics, yes.

00:32:57.668 --> 00:33:00.788
Well, there's a such thing as California sober, which means you do everything

00:33:00.788 --> 00:33:03.848
but drink, right? That's exactly what I do. Everything but drink.

00:33:04.388 --> 00:33:08.908
Yo, well, it's a pleasure to run into you, man. We were just here at the booth. You walked up.

00:33:10.017 --> 00:33:14.017
I love meeting, you know, hip-hop head as long as I can remember.

00:33:14.157 --> 00:33:15.417
So it's a fucking pleasure to meet you.

00:33:15.737 --> 00:33:19.317
And where can our audience find you and the products you're doing with hip-hop toys?

00:33:19.797 --> 00:33:22.677
The products with hip-hop toys, I'll let you know. But if you want to know,

00:33:22.797 --> 00:33:27.697
just go to my Instagram. It's T-A-S-H underscore of the alcoholics.

00:33:28.717 --> 00:33:32.657
Tash, and I'm whack. That's okay. And thank you for the hat.

00:33:33.157 --> 00:33:35.017
You're welcome. You're welcome. All right, we'll be right back.

00:33:37.097 --> 00:33:40.157
All right, everybody. Uncle Dad here hanging out with somebody pretty cool.

00:33:40.397 --> 00:33:44.737
So as you know here on our network, we do a side show called The Game Papas

00:33:44.737 --> 00:33:47.317
and we talk a lot about Sega on that show.

00:33:47.537 --> 00:33:50.817
And so I have to do this for our man, Retro Gaming Nomad. You know Retro.

00:33:50.957 --> 00:33:54.037
What do you think? This is exciting for him. I think it is. Yes.

00:33:54.357 --> 00:33:56.877
I think he's going to dig it. And we are with Dean Scrabb. Dean Scrabb,

00:33:57.417 --> 00:34:00.257
tell us what you used to do and what you're doing now.

00:34:00.337 --> 00:34:03.217
But before you do what you're doing now, let's talk about what you used to do.

00:34:03.797 --> 00:34:06.797
The tagline is, I think, I used to make games

00:34:06.797 --> 00:34:10.037
now i make fun of games uh so i

00:34:10.037 --> 00:34:12.897
started at sega in 89 as a game

00:34:12.897 --> 00:34:16.037
counselor and transitioned into like

00:34:16.037 --> 00:34:23.077
uh creative support so i would help out producers with titles uh i got to name

00:34:23.077 --> 00:34:28.717
all of the bad guys for sonic the hedgehog i got to help develop the green hill

00:34:28.717 --> 00:34:33.997
storyline I named Evo Robotnik as my claim.

00:34:34.157 --> 00:34:36.077
That's okay. We knocked over something, but that's okay.

00:34:36.397 --> 00:34:39.637
That's my, I guess, claim to fame. Wow.

00:34:40.177 --> 00:34:45.017
So you named Robotnik? Is that what you said? Yes. They gave me an early ROM

00:34:45.017 --> 00:34:48.917
of the first Sonic and said, what do you think of this?

00:34:49.037 --> 00:34:52.397
And I thought it was awesome. And I played it as far as I could.

00:34:52.897 --> 00:34:57.357
Some of the sprites were just garbage machine language and other sprites were

00:34:57.357 --> 00:35:00.197
developed. And the ones that I saw, I drew a picture of and said,

00:35:00.317 --> 00:35:02.417
how about this name or this name or this name?

00:35:02.777 --> 00:35:05.637
And they pretty much cherry picked the ones that they liked.

00:35:05.797 --> 00:35:08.257
And luckily, I got to participate in that.

00:35:08.937 --> 00:35:14.297
Wow, that's amazing. So when you have that kind of culture and history with you, let me ask you this.

00:35:14.577 --> 00:35:18.017
You were also part of the consumer line where people would call and ask you,

00:35:18.137 --> 00:35:20.637
what was the top three worst questions you've got there?

00:35:22.677 --> 00:35:25.857
It's pretty much the same. How do I beat the boss?

00:35:26.197 --> 00:35:32.417
And basically, how to beat the boss is hit him in the head three times, regardless of console.

00:35:32.857 --> 00:35:35.177
Other games were very specific.

00:35:35.657 --> 00:35:42.177
An RPG game, everyone got lost in the same maze. And the way to get out was very specific.

00:35:42.377 --> 00:35:47.337
You have to go up three levels, down five levels, and then up seven levels.

00:35:47.617 --> 00:35:51.737
And otherwise, you're just calling the guy and saying, help me.

00:35:51.957 --> 00:35:55.337
It was great. It was weird. a culture of...

00:35:56.568 --> 00:36:00.688
Kids would call like on their lunch break at school from a payphone or,

00:36:00.688 --> 00:36:03.248
you know, just very random.

00:36:05.108 --> 00:36:07.468
Mike, were you ever a part of that world where you wanted to call,

00:36:07.568 --> 00:36:10.908
get help? Oh, sorry. I used a word. It's payphone.

00:36:11.348 --> 00:36:15.968
It was a thing that you could walk up to and put money in and then call other people.

00:36:16.288 --> 00:36:19.868
So I wanted to make sure. Make sure everybody knows that because what are those, right?

00:36:20.368 --> 00:36:22.968
Mike, did you ever need help in a video game ever?

00:36:23.648 --> 00:36:28.508
I did, but there were no pay phones accessible to me. So I just had to struggle

00:36:28.508 --> 00:36:29.728
through it. Yeah, sorry.

00:36:30.068 --> 00:36:33.208
That's about it. Yeah, right, right. So now what are you doing now?

00:36:33.468 --> 00:36:36.368
If you could tell our audience kind of what you're doing now and how they can connect with you.

00:36:37.328 --> 00:36:45.608
I have started making bootleg toys, upcycling things and recontextualizing famous

00:36:45.608 --> 00:36:47.928
brands and making parodies.

00:36:49.708 --> 00:36:52.568
Uh uh went to uh three designer cons

00:36:52.568 --> 00:36:57.368
so far uh you know they're one

00:36:57.368 --> 00:37:00.188
one of a kind weirdness i don't know what there's no

00:37:00.188 --> 00:37:02.988
other way to explain it one of a kind of weirdness mike we

00:37:02.988 --> 00:37:06.348
like one of a kind of weirdness yeah i think that's each

00:37:06.348 --> 00:37:09.188
of us one of a kind of weirdness we're two of

00:37:09.188 --> 00:37:12.548
a kind though but i'm one and you're one so oh we're

00:37:12.548 --> 00:37:15.428
a trio now i love that we're kind of audience like learn

00:37:15.428 --> 00:37:18.628
more about your product and connect with you on tiktok it's

00:37:18.628 --> 00:37:26.048
best worse and on insta it's miles walkabout all one word okay please check

00:37:26.048 --> 00:37:30.888
out dean's grab great stuff and there's really fun stuff here and go ask him

00:37:30.888 --> 00:37:34.728
a question about how to beat a boss and i'm sure he'll answer it with pleasure

00:37:34.728 --> 00:37:37.068
thank you so much have a good show.

00:37:38.996 --> 00:37:42.136
Hi, everybody. Uncle Dad here, hanging out outside of Comic-Con. Whoa.

00:37:42.676 --> 00:37:44.376
Outside of Designer-Con, hanging

00:37:44.376 --> 00:37:48.116
out with the one and only, the tarot-certified, sexiest, Mike Hampton.

00:37:48.156 --> 00:37:50.956
Mike, what's up? Tarot-certified. Let's go.

00:37:52.016 --> 00:37:55.016
Mike, we're kicking off day two. Actually, we've been doing day two.

00:37:55.576 --> 00:37:59.236
What a kickoff, man. We got to talk to Meow Wolf. And then we got to talk to

00:37:59.236 --> 00:38:00.676
somebody who I didn't think we would even...

00:38:01.636 --> 00:38:06.656
Mike, did you ever imagine we would talk to Tash? when i booked my flight to

00:38:06.656 --> 00:38:09.996
come here for us to do the event i was like we're probably going to talk to

00:38:09.996 --> 00:38:15.056
katash from the alcoholics that's probably going to happen in in las vegas yeah

00:38:15.056 --> 00:38:19.316
and it did and then it did you manifested i knew.

00:38:23.836 --> 00:38:27.376
So how's the how's day two been for you what do you think and how you feeling

00:38:27.376 --> 00:38:32.716
well you know we we've gone through just like two aisles but there's so much

00:38:32.716 --> 00:38:34.696
to see right and so we get stopped,

00:38:35.256 --> 00:38:38.056
and then we stop at a booth where they have hip-hop toys that's

00:38:38.056 --> 00:38:41.716
the name of the booth and then we see that tash and

00:38:41.716 --> 00:38:44.576
the alcoholics is there someone from the far

00:38:44.576 --> 00:38:47.536
sides there like you know and they have all these cool figures of

00:38:47.536 --> 00:38:50.736
dell and you know cool keith and

00:38:50.736 --> 00:38:53.636
you know just on and on and so like i

00:38:53.636 --> 00:38:56.816
feel like we barely dented anything going through here oh yeah

00:38:56.816 --> 00:38:59.516
i feel like we really haven't seen everything but there's so much

00:38:59.516 --> 00:39:03.016
that's what's so great about cons is that they're not just one day usually they're

00:39:03.016 --> 00:39:05.836
multiple days did you know that mike this is three days

00:39:05.836 --> 00:39:09.196
we have another day shit more work

00:39:09.196 --> 00:39:12.216
to do more fun to be had but we got something kind

00:39:12.216 --> 00:39:15.816
of special coming up a little surprise from friends of ours mike

00:39:15.816 --> 00:39:18.676
is mike and i i guess are going to participate in a segment we

00:39:18.676 --> 00:39:21.656
haven't done in a long time what is that segment mike it's

00:39:21.656 --> 00:39:27.556
your favorite it's called 80s eats and it's where we eat old expired food from

00:39:27.556 --> 00:39:31.936
the 80s or even before because it's definitely been before a couple times so

00:39:31.936 --> 00:39:35.556
it should just be called old eats because we're eating old expired food we can't

00:39:35.556 --> 00:39:38.936
say that because somebody else has that but what we can call it and i've been

00:39:38.936 --> 00:39:41.496
thinking about it mike is retro eats.

00:39:42.453 --> 00:39:48.893
Retro. Yes, retro. Or expired eats. I like that more. I like that more.

00:39:49.753 --> 00:39:54.493
Expired eats with Uncle Dad and Just Mike, because we are shameless.

00:39:55.433 --> 00:40:01.393
Definitely shameless. Yes. But it's great to be here, and I'm kind of hungry,

00:40:01.413 --> 00:40:08.053
so why don't we just shimmy, shimmy, yaw over to the booth where they have these expired eats.

00:40:08.413 --> 00:40:10.973
Shimmy, shimmy. Okay, let's do it. All right, we'll be right back on this break.

00:40:12.813 --> 00:40:17.693
All right everybody we have a very special moment happening right now here at designer con live,

00:40:18.833 --> 00:40:21.493
mike what's happening right now tell them what's happening because i

00:40:21.493 --> 00:40:24.673
here's the thing we haven't done this in a while and i'm so i'm titillated

00:40:24.673 --> 00:40:27.313
with excitement titillated wow i haven't heard you

00:40:27.313 --> 00:40:30.993
say that before um well we uh

00:40:30.993 --> 00:40:33.953
got pitched to do uh an 80s eat segment which

00:40:33.953 --> 00:40:36.933
is something that we've done from time to time but we're renaming

00:40:36.933 --> 00:40:40.333
to expired eats because

00:40:40.333 --> 00:40:45.553
they're not always from the 80s like there's there's sometimes pre-80s yes this

00:40:45.553 --> 00:40:50.153
is definitely pre-80s definitely pre-80s now that voice you hear is from somebody

00:40:50.153 --> 00:40:55.653
who's here who's offering it to us now are we going to die tonight oh let's

00:40:55.653 --> 00:40:57.833
hope we do it in vegas i mean if you're gonna do it anywhere.

00:40:58.793 --> 00:41:01.493
God damn it mike if i'm gonna die you might as well die in

00:41:01.493 --> 00:41:04.393
new orleans or vegas i'll die either one of those yeah

00:41:04.393 --> 00:41:07.293
new orleans only for me they ask me but that's whatever

00:41:07.293 --> 00:41:10.153
so are we going to reveal what this item

00:41:10.153 --> 00:41:12.933
is i think so all right here it

00:41:12.933 --> 00:41:15.933
is very very excited oh it's a

00:41:15.933 --> 00:41:26.093
liquid it is a jackpot winner from an old casino in reno baby wow yeah it is

00:41:26.093 --> 00:41:34.073
i want to say old crow whiskey from early 70s late 60s wow can we take a look

00:41:34.073 --> 00:41:35.693
at the can there or the bottle Yeah, look at that.

00:41:36.433 --> 00:41:39.653
It's so, so I already know so I can describe it. It is a small,

00:41:40.033 --> 00:41:41.593
what would you call these little bottles?

00:41:41.813 --> 00:41:45.653
It's like, that you get from the mini bar. Yes. Right? Like a little mini bar. Oh yeah.

00:41:46.173 --> 00:41:49.473
And this, you would win these at the slot machine.

00:41:49.653 --> 00:41:53.213
And so it has a sticker on there saying, jackpot winner, you won the prize and

00:41:53.213 --> 00:41:55.233
you win a shot of old crow whiskey.

00:41:55.753 --> 00:41:59.573
Really? So that would come with your winnings. You get this little,

00:41:59.773 --> 00:42:02.093
your bottle. Yeah. I mean, it's a small.

00:42:04.355 --> 00:42:09.195
It says one-tenth of a pint. This whiskey is four years old.

00:42:09.255 --> 00:42:10.215
That's what it says on the label.

00:42:10.315 --> 00:42:12.615
Oh, wow. But, you know, that was when it came out.

00:42:13.035 --> 00:42:17.975
It says less than half pint. It's still sealed. You can see that it's evaporating because it's so old.

00:42:18.335 --> 00:42:22.095
Yeah. And I'm going to read the back. It says, generation after generation,

00:42:22.695 --> 00:42:27.915
men of fame and discriminating taste have enjoyed and preferred the smoothest

00:42:27.915 --> 00:42:29.335
and mellowest of bourbons.

00:42:29.615 --> 00:42:34.055
It was first distilled by Dr. James Crow in 1835.

00:42:35.035 --> 00:42:39.955
Wow. So, Mike, you've actually done old beer before, correct?

00:42:40.655 --> 00:42:44.655
Yeah, we did. Whose beer was that? Billy Carter. You did his beer.

00:42:45.155 --> 00:42:47.955
Yeah. I'm like the wrong Carter. Right, right.

00:42:48.735 --> 00:42:53.695
Now we're doing, this is a, sorry, a bourbon or whiskey? Old Crow.

00:42:54.055 --> 00:42:55.675
It looks like maybe whiskey.

00:42:56.335 --> 00:42:59.355
Straight bourbon whiskey. Bourbon. A little bit of both. Oh,

00:42:59.435 --> 00:43:04.075
okay. So, Mike, obviously the show has kicked off with you doing it first, if that's okay.

00:43:04.775 --> 00:43:08.375
And please take a sip and tell us what you think. If something happens,

00:43:09.515 --> 00:43:13.875
my health care card is in my wallet in my back. But I stole your wallet.

00:43:15.135 --> 00:43:18.195
I just cracked a seal. All right. All right, I'm opening it.

00:43:18.255 --> 00:43:21.655
Well, let me smell it first. Okay, you smell it. I can't smell. Everyone knows.

00:43:23.615 --> 00:43:26.715
I don't smell that much. I'm sorry. I don't smell that much at all.

00:43:27.615 --> 00:43:29.695
Interesting. Okay, Mike, you're in for a treat. Hold on. Wait,

00:43:29.755 --> 00:43:32.315
wait. I got to get the sip. Got to get the sip. I don't smell anything.

00:43:33.275 --> 00:43:35.075
Get the sip, Mike. That's really good.

00:43:38.175 --> 00:43:39.335
I mean, it tastes like liquor.

00:43:42.775 --> 00:43:47.355
Now, do I join you on this? I think you should. Mike, you got to hold the mic? I'll hold the mic.

00:43:47.875 --> 00:43:49.895
Why don't you shift my body real quick? Because I'm an old man.

00:43:50.095 --> 00:43:53.815
He's a shifter. I got a fucking bum ankle. So hold on. All right. Yeah.

00:43:54.315 --> 00:43:57.635
Because you have to have a bum. If you have a bum ankle, it will affect your

00:43:57.635 --> 00:43:58.815
drinking. Exactly. Exactly.

00:43:59.395 --> 00:44:01.755
All right. Well, cheers to everyone.

00:44:02.495 --> 00:44:06.855
And Old Crow winner, jackpot winner. Now, can I ask you really fast before I drink this?

00:44:07.215 --> 00:44:10.935
Do you know, did you guys find this somewhere or did you know the person who

00:44:10.935 --> 00:44:12.795
had this? No, I found it in Reno.

00:44:13.195 --> 00:44:18.175
Okay. Yeah. So we don't know exactly who had this at one point. I think I do know.

00:44:18.495 --> 00:44:22.315
Grandma. She's like in her 90s and I found it at her booth. So I assume she

00:44:22.315 --> 00:44:24.655
probably won it back in the 60s when it was new.

00:44:25.535 --> 00:44:27.935
Wow. All right. Well, cheers to Grandma Gladys.

00:44:35.495 --> 00:44:39.335
You know, to be honest, it's not that bad, but it's not that good.

00:44:41.795 --> 00:44:46.235
It tastes like what I would imagine a crow tastes like, there's a tiny bit left.

00:44:48.415 --> 00:44:49.195
I'll finish it.

00:44:52.275 --> 00:44:56.515
Our media producer is going to try it. But yes. That wasn't expired eat.

00:44:56.515 --> 00:44:58.075
That was an expired drink.

00:44:58.535 --> 00:45:01.975
You know, expired consuming. And that's what we did.

00:45:02.515 --> 00:45:05.415
And I think it'll probably make us drunker.

00:45:07.355 --> 00:45:12.675
Smells like mouthwash. It kind of tastes like mouthwash has been on the shelf for years.

00:45:13.195 --> 00:45:15.915
You know what I'm saying? Not that I've done that before. Maybe. I don't know.

00:45:16.195 --> 00:45:19.915
But like mouthwash, you took a sip of it. You're like, oh, you know what?

00:45:20.015 --> 00:45:22.035
I don't need this little portion. So I left it there.

00:45:22.275 --> 00:45:24.955
And then years go by, and then you're like, you're packing for a flight,

00:45:24.995 --> 00:45:26.955
and you're like, oh, shit, I have mouthwashed. And you grab it,

00:45:26.995 --> 00:45:28.795
and you take it. Sorry, that was such a long story.

00:45:29.615 --> 00:45:31.955
Well, it does feel a little putrid.

00:45:32.815 --> 00:45:37.135
Very stingy. It leaves a really weird coat on your tongue. Do you taste that?

00:45:37.295 --> 00:45:39.015
Yeah, I feel a coat. That's the copper.

00:45:39.935 --> 00:45:42.435
Yeah, I feel a film. Yeah, it's poison.

00:45:43.715 --> 00:45:48.555
That's your taste buds rotting away. Yeah, well, I mean, it can't be worse than

00:45:48.555 --> 00:45:52.455
the Ninja Turtle cereal that we ate, you know, right? Good, though.

00:45:52.735 --> 00:45:56.615
That was pretty good. It could have been a lot worse. It could have been so much worse.

00:45:57.015 --> 00:46:00.535
It could have been. But I hope it makes me drunker.

00:46:01.315 --> 00:46:05.255
You know, that's, you know. Now suddenly you're high. And you just get super high.

00:46:06.675 --> 00:46:09.955
Now, is it okay if we introduce you guys to the audience? Is that okay?

00:46:10.055 --> 00:46:11.755
Yes. Because they need to know who we're talking to.

00:46:12.075 --> 00:46:18.455
Yeah. And so how we got this wonderful expired old thing that we put into our

00:46:18.455 --> 00:46:23.115
bodies is from two people who sell a lot of vintage stuff.

00:46:23.395 --> 00:46:28.455
They have a store space in Reno, a store space in Grass Valley.

00:46:29.655 --> 00:46:35.015
Also, tons and tons of shows all over the US. Who are you guys and what do you do?

00:46:35.675 --> 00:46:39.535
Anthony Liano. I am partner over at Junkie and Uncle Junkie in Reno,

00:46:39.615 --> 00:46:44.215
Nevada and Booktown Books in Grass Valley, California. And I'm Carly.

00:46:45.315 --> 00:46:49.155
Same. Yeah, that's all there is to that one. california

00:46:49.155 --> 00:46:52.455
to be exact well thanks for uh contributing to

00:46:52.455 --> 00:46:55.215
our show and i would

00:46:55.215 --> 00:46:58.135
say where can our audience find you but i think you just said where

00:46:58.135 --> 00:47:00.855
they can find you so is there anywhere online they can find

00:47:00.855 --> 00:47:03.935
you or no just on facebook and

00:47:03.935 --> 00:47:06.735
instagram under from the land beyond from the land

00:47:06.735 --> 00:47:09.955
beyond yeah from the land beyond that's you this

00:47:09.955 --> 00:47:13.935
whole time i didn't know that was you okay we're always learning on this show

00:47:13.935 --> 00:47:18.815
always learning yeah i'm starting to feel funny so i'm gonna absorb what just

00:47:18.815 --> 00:47:22.995
happened and uh we'll i'll be right back well before i say that mike something

00:47:22.995 --> 00:47:27.115
growing out of your out of your right side of your body oh okay we gotta go

00:47:27.115 --> 00:47:27.855
we'll have to handle that.

00:47:29.634 --> 00:47:32.594
Hello everybody welcome back to uncle dad talks i'm uncle

00:47:32.594 --> 00:47:35.854
dad hanging out with the one and only again the tarot certified

00:47:35.854 --> 00:47:38.894
sexiest man on uncle dad talks just mike

00:47:38.894 --> 00:47:42.634
just mike say hello you just won't let that go huh i mean that's what you're

00:47:42.634 --> 00:47:47.934
selling boy now is it yeah according to you according to everyone you know any

00:47:47.934 --> 00:47:52.374
messages i've gotten about tarot approved send me the names of those messages

00:47:52.374 --> 00:47:56.274
i don't know i don't want our content producer to get mad She gave me a look.

00:47:57.534 --> 00:48:00.194
But we are with somebody, and honestly, I'm going to let you introduce them

00:48:00.194 --> 00:48:01.394
because it's kind of a lovely story.

00:48:02.274 --> 00:48:05.874
Mike, go ahead and introduce our guests, the one and only. Well,

00:48:05.994 --> 00:48:08.594
I know him as Vision, and I think that's all I know him as.

00:48:08.734 --> 00:48:11.714
I don't know you as any other name.

00:48:11.794 --> 00:48:15.934
So is there another name that our listeners should know, or is Vision what it

00:48:15.934 --> 00:48:18.734
is? No, that's what it is. That's the only name you should know.

00:48:19.754 --> 00:48:22.814
That's the code name and all names thereafter.

00:48:22.814 --> 00:48:28.154
After and how do you spell vision v-e-z-u-n and

00:48:28.154 --> 00:48:32.194
and so we know each other you know we're here in las vegas 20

00:48:32.194 --> 00:48:35.014
something years ago and we were at an art show last night where your

00:48:35.014 --> 00:48:38.394
art was on display and also iceberg slick who

00:48:38.394 --> 00:48:44.274
also is part of why we're sitting here is we worked together in some capacity

00:48:44.274 --> 00:48:50.334
20 something years ago in the hood magazine tales of hip-hop horror we were

00:48:50.334 --> 00:48:55.874
doing comic conventions we were freestyling together we were at booths and and so it's just like

00:48:56.314 --> 00:48:59.014
so cool to like see you here and reunite with you

00:48:59.014 --> 00:49:03.394
in this way and so what are you doing with your art now well thanks

00:49:03.394 --> 00:49:08.614
for giving a lot of context right now what i'm doing is a lot of applying to

00:49:08.614 --> 00:49:14.374
try to get a public art gigs and then i do a lot of pieces for shows i'm in

00:49:14.374 --> 00:49:15.934
a lot of group shows a lot of gallery

00:49:15.934 --> 00:49:20.034
shows and you know i apply to other things so it's kind of like more

00:49:20.114 --> 00:49:23.374
of a academic art route that I'm trying to take.

00:49:23.634 --> 00:49:27.974
How would you describe your art? Like what's a favorite piece of yours that you've done?

00:49:28.514 --> 00:49:31.014
What is your style that you do?

00:49:31.634 --> 00:49:34.494
Man, well, this is evolving and changing.

00:49:35.214 --> 00:49:36.514
It's getting more mature.

00:49:37.494 --> 00:49:43.174
It's getting more grown up. As things does as we get older, right? As it would.

00:49:44.875 --> 00:49:49.335
We hope so. We would hope so. Yeah. When I was younger, I was doing things.

00:49:49.395 --> 00:49:53.395
I guess that now you classify more like street or more urban,

00:49:53.695 --> 00:49:57.535
which, you know, I definitely still have a lot of that, that touch in me,

00:49:57.575 --> 00:50:02.495
but I do try to get better, you know, and I try to do more things.

00:50:02.495 --> 00:50:08.095
So more sculpture, more video back in those days, I couldn't even dream about

00:50:08.095 --> 00:50:10.135
doing video because we didn't have the capacity.

00:50:10.275 --> 00:50:13.235
Like we didn't have the capacity to do what we're doing right now back in

00:50:13.235 --> 00:50:16.075
the day so we're doing things that we didn't even couldn't even dream

00:50:16.075 --> 00:50:18.815
of back in those days you know it's fun

00:50:18.815 --> 00:50:22.315
yeah like back in those days there was no anything

00:50:22.315 --> 00:50:25.375
myspace was out yet like it like we're aging ourselves here

00:50:25.375 --> 00:50:28.415
which is fine because this is what it's just what it is but

00:50:28.415 --> 00:50:31.835
yeah there was none of that you know like there was no a microphone

00:50:31.835 --> 00:50:34.815
with a recording device built into it that

00:50:34.815 --> 00:50:37.715
we would just you know do events with there was no social

00:50:37.715 --> 00:50:40.615
media there was no soundcloud there's nothing

00:50:40.615 --> 00:50:43.315
we're just soundcloud rappers no it's just a

00:50:43.315 --> 00:50:48.015
bunch of guys at a at a booth at a comic-con and people walk up and we all just

00:50:48.015 --> 00:50:52.315
like start barking at people like dogs trying to get them to buy our shit right

00:50:52.315 --> 00:50:58.175
like and it's very different now but into like you and i you know obviously

00:50:58.175 --> 00:51:02.435
we relate to this like how as an artist who's gone through that transition like.

00:51:03.035 --> 00:51:06.175
How do you feel is there a challenge like how do you navigate through

00:51:06.175 --> 00:51:09.575
the change that that we've seen oh with

00:51:09.575 --> 00:51:12.515
technology and with everything it's weird because you

00:51:12.515 --> 00:51:16.175
you do have to try to find ways to adjust and

00:51:16.175 --> 00:51:19.195
also to try to find the ways to

00:51:19.195 --> 00:51:22.895
make the content that fit the platforms now

00:51:22.895 --> 00:51:26.195
so you you have to try to figure out

00:51:26.195 --> 00:51:29.255
new ways because you can't just draw a

00:51:29.255 --> 00:51:32.035
piece i mean you can't just draw a drawing on a piece of paper and that's

00:51:32.035 --> 00:51:35.715
it like you used to and go to the copy store make

00:51:35.715 --> 00:51:38.915
a copy now that's i mean you it's it's

00:51:38.915 --> 00:51:41.835
a little bit different there's still people making zines but you

00:51:41.835 --> 00:51:44.935
you got to find ways to get your stuff out there

00:51:44.935 --> 00:51:48.295
so you take an advantage of social media

00:51:48.295 --> 00:51:52.115
even for something like a like a like an art event that we were at last night

00:51:52.115 --> 00:51:55.835
or for something like this you got to try to find the way to get people to your

00:51:55.835 --> 00:51:59.795
booth if you're at a booth and how you how you're going to let them know etc

00:51:59.795 --> 00:52:04.195
etc because you make your post and that doesn't necessarily mean that the people

00:52:04.195 --> 00:52:05.155
are going to see your post.

00:52:06.295 --> 00:52:11.495
So we're all trying to navigate and we're all trying to find new ways to pick up new tools and...

00:52:12.774 --> 00:52:18.274
Do innovative things yeah i mean it's my innovative pants that's right that's

00:52:18.274 --> 00:52:23.834
right yeah i mean it is a it is it's an ever-changing genre and you know you

00:52:23.834 --> 00:52:25.554
have to try to find a way to stay relevant,

00:52:26.074 --> 00:52:32.054
and you know we we've been able to watch it become what it's become and so you

00:52:32.054 --> 00:52:33.774
know like if there was a if there

00:52:33.774 --> 00:52:39.214
was a voice that your art that your art speaks like what is it that you,

00:52:39.854 --> 00:52:42.674
what is it that you're saying with with what

00:52:42.674 --> 00:52:45.434
you create well yeah I try

00:52:45.434 --> 00:52:48.234
not to have just like one theme you know

00:52:48.234 --> 00:52:51.314
I know people have like their lanes and

00:52:51.314 --> 00:52:54.894
like people don't have to know everything that

00:52:54.894 --> 00:52:58.314
I think about everything you know like

00:52:58.314 --> 00:53:01.214
you know my stance on plaid you know

00:53:01.214 --> 00:53:04.314
my stance on american idol or

00:53:04.314 --> 00:53:07.774
or my stance on you know homeschooling or

00:53:07.774 --> 00:53:11.394
whatever these issues whatever these things are all

00:53:11.394 --> 00:53:16.414
of those things don't have to necessarily be put on the public for the public

00:53:16.414 --> 00:53:22.134
you know so just maybe like a few things so i think the environment is something

00:53:22.134 --> 00:53:26.774
that i feel you know really strongly about i you know i think there's just a

00:53:26.774 --> 00:53:29.454
lot of chemicals a lot of contamination.

00:53:30.294 --> 00:53:33.574
So, you know, health, it seems like I think a lot about health,

00:53:33.754 --> 00:53:37.054
you know, and I think a lot about like trying to be healthy.

00:53:37.054 --> 00:53:38.974
So that's kind of like connected.

00:53:39.794 --> 00:53:44.774
So, you know, a couple of very few issues, but because I'm in a lot of group

00:53:44.774 --> 00:53:49.514
shows, they asked me to do like a lot of pieces for a lot of different issues

00:53:49.514 --> 00:53:54.554
that maybe aren't issues that I necessarily want to, you know.

00:53:56.183 --> 00:53:59.243
Put on on these issues so i

00:53:59.243 --> 00:54:03.283
have to kind of choose what things i will will

00:54:03.283 --> 00:54:06.343
participate in because it's it's not for everything

00:54:06.343 --> 00:54:09.743
you know we don't need to know how like

00:54:09.743 --> 00:54:12.583
one artist or one celebrity feels about every

00:54:12.583 --> 00:54:15.343
single issue i don't think they have to pick

00:54:15.343 --> 00:54:18.143
their little their few things that

00:54:18.143 --> 00:54:21.103
they want to talk about yeah i mean like be careful

00:54:21.103 --> 00:54:25.323
what you say yes to i guess in a way right well where

00:54:25.323 --> 00:54:30.123
uh where could our listeners find you and see your art and and check you out

00:54:30.123 --> 00:54:34.803
and follow you online i'm trying to post to more places but right now it seems

00:54:34.803 --> 00:54:41.343
like i'm posting mostly to instagram and tiktok you know but i mean i have i'm

00:54:41.343 --> 00:54:43.503
not hard to find i'm on a lot of,

00:54:44.163 --> 00:54:50.203
platforms a lot of social media platforms and what is it what's your handle usually it's vision

00:54:50.563 --> 00:54:53.663
yeah because usually somebody gets the vision before

00:54:53.663 --> 00:54:56.623
me so and then that my little trick

00:54:56.623 --> 00:54:59.423
around that is just using vision vision but usually if you

00:54:59.423 --> 00:55:03.523
just type in vision v-e-z-u-n you can usually find me that way it's almost like

00:55:03.523 --> 00:55:08.043
double vision but you don't say double vision you say vision vision you guys

00:55:08.043 --> 00:55:11.983
got a lot of word play i'm noticing today you guys got a lot of trickery around

00:55:11.983 --> 00:55:17.163
words that's good we gotta we gotta we gotta keep the show we gotta keep the show going.

00:55:17.943 --> 00:55:20.863
You know so all right well vision you know it's been

00:55:20.863 --> 00:55:23.683
dope to reconnect with you and i'm

00:55:23.683 --> 00:55:26.363
happy to like happy to see you and you're still

00:55:26.363 --> 00:55:31.223
grinding and doing your thing and please our listeners go to vision vision on

00:55:31.223 --> 00:55:36.903
instagram and tiktok and check them out and maybe at some point we'll have a

00:55:36.903 --> 00:55:41.663
video of us freestyling together what do you think wow yeah that would be hot

00:55:41.663 --> 00:55:44.783
it would be a hot take we'll see Uncle Dad.

00:55:45.543 --> 00:55:49.383
I would love I've been trying to get this guy to freestyle for a long time on

00:55:49.383 --> 00:55:54.043
this show if we can make that happen I say right now I'm kidding but someday

00:55:54.043 --> 00:55:55.383
we need to make that happen yeah,

00:55:56.120 --> 00:55:59.780
working on it it's better if you know it's just like the

00:55:59.780 --> 00:56:02.620
homies just start they just start and you're just one

00:56:02.620 --> 00:56:06.400
of them and then you're just like part of people like

00:56:06.400 --> 00:56:09.920
doing something as opposed to like somebody telling you hey dance like a monkey

00:56:09.920 --> 00:56:14.200
you know get up and put on a little show for us you know we don't respond to

00:56:14.200 --> 00:56:18.920
that we respond to more like we're in a group and i start talking about you

00:56:18.920 --> 00:56:25.380
know your whatever and then you start talking about my crooked collar you know or then And we start,

00:56:25.520 --> 00:56:28.960
you know, these things that we used to do when we were like teenagers, you know.

00:56:29.280 --> 00:56:31.440
So it's more of a bonding.

00:56:32.000 --> 00:56:35.520
Yeah. It is a bonding. And I have been meaning to talk to you about your Kirk

00:56:35.520 --> 00:56:38.220
Collar the whole weekend that we've been here.

00:56:38.400 --> 00:56:42.060
So, but we'll talk about the off mic. Anyways, Vision, thank you so much.

00:56:42.220 --> 00:56:46.640
It's been great to reconnect with you and Uncle Dad. And we'll be right back after this.

00:56:48.280 --> 00:56:53.260
They're still here. They're after us. They know we're still in here.

00:56:53.740 --> 00:56:54.880
They're after the place.

00:56:56.320 --> 00:57:01.800
They don't know why they just remember remember that they want to be in here

00:57:01.800 --> 00:57:08.100
what the hell are they they're us that's all there's no more room in hell,

00:57:10.680 --> 00:57:15.120
what something my granddaddy used to tell us you know mukumbo,

00:57:18.360 --> 00:57:22.700
Voodoo. Granddad was a priest in Trinidad. He used to tell us,

00:57:23.000 --> 00:57:28.660
when there's no more room in hell, the dead will walk the earth.

00:57:27.920 --> 00:57:34.160
Music.

00:57:33.600 --> 00:57:39.560
Alright everybody, Uncle Dad and Just Mike here. We are at the world famous Hotel Apache.

00:57:39.860 --> 00:57:43.680
The reason why we're here is because I'm staying in this hotel while we're at

00:57:43.680 --> 00:57:44.780
the lovely Designer Con.

00:57:45.120 --> 00:57:47.320
And we want to try something a little different for this episode.

00:57:47.500 --> 00:57:52.320
And that is me and Mike are going to go ghost hunting because apparently Hotel

00:57:52.320 --> 00:57:55.840
Apache is very haunted. So we've heard.

00:57:56.220 --> 00:57:59.860
Now, have you felt any energies? You're a very energy-filling guy.

00:58:00.180 --> 00:58:04.200
Yeah, I felt the energy when I walked into your room. It was like musty,

00:58:04.760 --> 00:58:10.300
clouded, like, you know, laundry. That's just my stink.

00:58:11.780 --> 00:58:16.220
Yeah. But apparently, so we've heard is that there's three floors,

00:58:16.260 --> 00:58:20.060
but there's one room that starts with the floor at 400.

00:58:20.480 --> 00:58:24.020
You would think that would be on four floor, but there is no fourth floor.

00:58:24.300 --> 00:58:28.100
And apparently room 400 is like the haunted room.

00:58:28.220 --> 00:58:32.080
So if we go there, you're supposed to see stuff, maybe feel stuff,

00:58:32.580 --> 00:58:35.500
maybe feel something in your toes. I don't know.

00:58:36.560 --> 00:58:40.700
You know, I'm hoping that we get to meet a ghost and I hope it's like Patrick

00:58:40.700 --> 00:58:43.360
Swayze. What if it goes with like a sheet.

00:58:44.840 --> 00:58:47.460
To it holds. Like Halloween, the Halloween movie, remember that?

00:58:47.540 --> 00:58:49.840
The first Halloween? Like a ghost. Like a ghost.

00:58:50.520 --> 00:58:53.460
So I don't know how we're going to do this, so we'll see. So we'll walk down

00:58:53.460 --> 00:58:56.400
the hallway, check it out, and we'll see what trouble happens.

00:58:56.860 --> 00:59:01.760
Maybe you guys will hear something that I haven't been able to record or didn't think I was recording.

00:59:02.360 --> 00:59:04.780
I don't know. I do believe in ghosts. I don't think Mike does.

00:59:04.900 --> 00:59:08.640
I don't think so. Well, I believe in spirits.

00:59:09.580 --> 00:59:15.000
Now, have you seen ghosts? No. I have. Cool. Well, let's see if we see them together.

00:59:15.940 --> 00:59:18.820
As we explore this hotel room, we found that. This is not a joke.

00:59:19.080 --> 00:59:21.840
We found a schematic. It's a blueprint.

00:59:22.320 --> 00:59:25.700
Oh, not a schematic, I guess. Schematic blueprint.

00:59:26.780 --> 00:59:28.740
And we're trying to find. We're on the maintenance corridor.

00:59:29.380 --> 00:59:31.000
So we're looking for room 400.

00:59:31.560 --> 00:59:37.760
So it's by 390. It has to be. Yeah, you would think. But I don't really see the numbers on this.

00:59:37.900 --> 00:59:41.200
Well, she told me to go to her 390. That's what she said. All right.

00:59:41.880 --> 00:59:44.040
All right. Our concept producer is going the wrong way.

00:59:44.960 --> 00:59:47.040
Okay. Oh, yeah, that looks weird.

00:59:48.840 --> 00:59:53.320
So, as you walk down this hallway, it's, like, very open. There's one room that's

00:59:53.320 --> 00:59:54.640
not even a room. It dips down.

00:59:56.860 --> 01:00:03.140
It definitely has a... There's definitely a spooky feeling to going down this

01:00:03.140 --> 01:00:07.540
way compared to going down to where your room is. Exactly. So, yeah.

01:00:08.840 --> 01:00:14.680
All right, Mike, that's a room to the right, to the left, It's a tight turn as we keep walking.

01:00:15.820 --> 01:00:17.440
Okay. 390.

01:00:21.075 --> 01:00:22.715
Okay, oh my god, we thought we heard steps on top.

01:00:24.795 --> 01:00:25.995
Oh shit, that looks terrifying.

01:00:27.995 --> 01:00:30.955
Alright, we're going to keep going. Right now we're now down another hallway,

01:00:31.155 --> 01:00:32.035
a straightaway hallway.

01:00:33.395 --> 01:00:36.275
One of the things that you see on these rooms is that they have little effects.

01:00:36.815 --> 01:00:40.175
That looks like a little cocaine on there too. Yeah, I'm not going to put that in there.

01:00:42.075 --> 01:00:46.255
3D6 room. I felt like someone was playing with my hair while I was sitting on

01:00:46.255 --> 01:00:47.935
the bed. Then I heard someone laugh.

01:00:48.255 --> 01:00:50.475
Oh no, you know, the last time I heard that was with you.

01:00:51.075 --> 01:00:56.655
Yeah, that's what I hear when I macerate. Okay, that's not going to be in there either.

01:00:58.555 --> 01:01:02.495
Number 387. At 4 a.m. I woke up. The scratching noise is on my ceiling.

01:01:03.155 --> 01:01:04.315
That sounds pretty scary.

01:01:05.675 --> 01:01:12.875
As we come down this way, we're at 388. Yeah, 388 says, I heard a drawer opening and shutting at 3 a.m.

01:01:13.475 --> 01:01:18.335
In the room above me. At the time, that floor was not being rented.

01:01:19.575 --> 01:01:22.595
Well, that's weird because there is no fourth floor.

01:01:24.955 --> 01:01:29.635
389. At around midnight, I heard the drawer next to the bed open and close.

01:01:30.175 --> 01:01:35.275
I then heard someone tapping on the glass three times that came from the bathroom.

01:01:35.955 --> 01:01:39.795
You know, what is up with the number three? It's always in threes.

01:01:40.035 --> 01:01:43.695
It's always through this. Even when we're walking out here, I feel like when

01:01:43.695 --> 01:01:46.675
we stop walking, I can feel the floor trembling. Yeah, I can too.

01:01:47.455 --> 01:01:49.135
So we're at the 90s.

01:01:51.070 --> 01:01:54.310
No, it can't be. Seriously? Don't.

01:01:55.590 --> 01:01:58.850
All right. All right, we're going through a staircase, apparently.

01:01:59.450 --> 01:02:02.390
No? Okay. Okay. All right.

01:02:02.530 --> 01:02:07.890
So this is Uncle Dad and just Mike ghost hunting. We're not very good at it.

01:02:08.910 --> 01:02:13.410
Well, you know, this is our first time actually doing this. And so apparently

01:02:13.410 --> 01:02:14.590
we're supposed to find 400.

01:02:15.250 --> 01:02:19.490
They said go towards 390. We went towards 390. There was no 400.

01:02:20.010 --> 01:02:23.730
And we have our content producer on the phone. What did they say?

01:02:24.230 --> 01:02:29.810
They said it's on the fourth floor, but they have to go to the Apache front desk. Oh.

01:02:31.370 --> 01:02:34.730
They said I don't think there's a fourth floor. Whoa.

01:02:35.830 --> 01:02:39.750
We have to go to the desk? Yeah, or that, or you probably don't have access

01:02:39.750 --> 01:02:40.710
to it because we're not paying for it.

01:02:41.990 --> 01:02:44.910
Because it is a presidential suite. All right, Mike.

01:02:45.650 --> 01:02:53.050
As long as the staircase is down. this looks like it so these whole what breaking

01:02:53.050 --> 01:02:57.950
into things alright Mike we're going to see what trouble we can get into and we'll be right back.

01:02:59.850 --> 01:03:01.710
Alright so Mike we're going to be a little bit quiet here because we're by some

01:03:01.710 --> 01:03:06.310
rooms but we've been told that the area that we're in has had spooky activity,

01:03:06.790 --> 01:03:10.890
now we don't have any tools at all to do this just the microphone,

01:03:11.410 --> 01:03:15.230
so Mike let's try to ask if somebody's there and we'll see if we hear anything,

01:03:15.790 --> 01:03:19.190
alright Mike you can ask If anyone's here,

01:03:20.030 --> 01:03:25.290
please reveal your truest self.

01:03:26.320 --> 01:03:35.120
Music.

01:03:34.966 --> 01:03:35.226
Known.

01:03:39.386 --> 01:03:44.286
All we hear is the worrying of the fan and people in their rooms having a good

01:03:44.286 --> 01:03:46.766
time. Well, that means we need to have a good time too, so.

01:03:48.126 --> 01:03:52.686
Apparently, we've missed the ghost bus. Missed the ghost bus indeed,

01:03:52.726 --> 01:03:56.606
but next time on Uncle Dad and Just Mike Pretend to be Scooby-Doo,

01:03:56.866 --> 01:03:58.866
we'll try something else.

01:03:59.326 --> 01:04:02.006
This is an interesting idea though. I think we should explore it by Mike.

01:04:03.566 --> 01:04:05.706
Yeah. Yeah. Let's explore it.

01:04:07.546 --> 01:04:11.746
And hopefully you have more success. I think so. Now we go check out Hotel Apache

01:04:11.746 --> 01:04:13.566
at Binion's and see what they got to offer.

01:04:12.240 --> 01:04:18.160
Music.

01:04:19.426 --> 01:04:22.586
Yo, what up, everybody? It's day three. And as you always know,

01:04:22.666 --> 01:04:25.786
we always sound the most tired on day three. Isn't that right, Mike?

01:04:26.326 --> 01:04:29.166
It's the third day. So what else can you say?

01:04:29.446 --> 01:04:33.386
What else can you say indeed? But you know what I can tell you is that I'm very

01:04:33.386 --> 01:04:36.986
tired. I've had a lot of great fun this weekend, and it's always sad to see

01:04:36.986 --> 01:04:40.326
a con come to an end because you get that post-con blues.

01:04:40.766 --> 01:04:44.606
I don't know how you feel about it. Post-con depression is a real thing, absolutely.

01:04:45.086 --> 01:04:53.346
Yeah, it really is. So far, we had a weekend of interviews, fun.

01:04:54.708 --> 01:04:59.948
News hunting. Wow. Lots of art, lots of cool conversations. And there's a couple

01:04:59.948 --> 01:05:04.208
of big names we're still trying to work on getting today. So we'll see.

01:05:04.768 --> 01:05:09.168
We'll see indeed. And you know, I think with these cons, you know what,

01:05:09.168 --> 01:05:09.888
and I want to throw it out there.

01:05:09.948 --> 01:05:12.528
If anybody's ever interested in being on the show and you're at one of these

01:05:12.528 --> 01:05:15.268
cons, please email me at UncleDad or UncleDadTalks.com.

01:05:15.708 --> 01:05:18.188
As long as you know you're doing something, even if you're not doing something,

01:05:18.308 --> 01:05:20.048
we'll talk to you because sometimes we just got to listen.

01:05:20.708 --> 01:05:23.468
Uncle Dad listens. We haven't done that in a while. yeah let's do it

01:05:23.468 --> 01:05:26.968
maybe we should maybe we should listen to somebody today let's do

01:05:26.968 --> 01:05:29.848
it because i don't think uh i feel like talking much

01:05:29.848 --> 01:05:32.828
today i'm right there with you uh we'll

01:05:32.828 --> 01:05:35.928
be right back after this break all right

01:05:35.928 --> 01:05:39.428
mike check it out we're hanging out we got ourselves a very interesting box

01:05:39.428 --> 01:05:45.168
that was gifted to us this is the my homies my homies by cheech and chong now

01:05:45.168 --> 01:05:50.468
mike you gotta know who that is are they here i wish yeah i do know who they

01:05:50.468 --> 01:05:53.588
are yes i didn't know that they were associated with my homies.

01:05:53.748 --> 01:05:56.288
This is their version of a mystery box.

01:05:56.548 --> 01:05:58.968
Oh, okay. Well, it's very mysterious.

01:05:59.308 --> 01:06:02.288
So we're going to do an opening. We've done this a few times now on the show,

01:06:02.408 --> 01:06:04.108
I think, mystery unboxings.

01:06:04.488 --> 01:06:06.568
We're going to have a little bit of video and pictures with us later,

01:06:06.568 --> 01:06:11.148
but this here is size for me. Sorry, because you left. It's a size...

01:06:12.888 --> 01:06:16.788
Right. Well, my size would be size skeleton, so they probably don't have that

01:06:16.788 --> 01:06:20.408
either. Because, you know, most stoners are chunky because we get high knee.

01:06:20.808 --> 01:06:24.208
Right. Exactly. So whenever I get high on, I don't eat.

01:06:25.648 --> 01:06:29.008
So Mike, you can do the honors and break the seal. Go ahead and rip that seal.

01:06:29.328 --> 01:06:32.248
We'll use the, uh, good old fashioned SMR.

01:06:32.988 --> 01:06:34.048
Oh yeah. Feel that rim.

01:06:35.148 --> 01:06:38.488
Actually, it's kind of quiet. Okay. One item at a time. Don't look.

01:06:39.268 --> 01:06:42.028
I want to go first. All right. I'm grabbing the first item. Yeah.

01:06:43.293 --> 01:06:46.293
It is a, whoa, what is this? Don't look at the box.

01:06:47.473 --> 01:06:52.993
It is a babushka. That's so funny. We were talking about babushkas earlier.

01:06:53.533 --> 01:06:56.593
What is it? Oh, no. Open it up. It says Cheech and Chong glass.

01:06:57.433 --> 01:07:01.273
It looks like one of those little dolls where you open, there's a smaller doll,

01:07:01.433 --> 01:07:05.373
but you open this up and it's just. There's nothing. There's nothing. There.

01:07:06.193 --> 01:07:10.593
Go ahead and show the camera, Mike. Wow. It's like a little babushka.

01:07:10.853 --> 01:07:13.513
You know what you could do with that, though? You can put your weed in it.

01:07:14.953 --> 01:07:17.033
I've been looking for something to put my weed in. All right,

01:07:17.113 --> 01:07:18.113
grab something else. Don't look, don't look.

01:07:19.093 --> 01:07:23.573
Ooh, what the heck is that? Oh, this, I would believe that's a Jerry Garcia.

01:07:24.193 --> 01:07:25.493
No, it's Cheech, it's Chong.

01:07:26.373 --> 01:07:29.633
Cheech and Chong. It looks like Jerry Garcia. It's all Cheech and Chong stuff.

01:07:29.693 --> 01:07:31.093
All this stuff is Cheech and Chong. Yeah.

01:07:32.553 --> 01:07:37.453
Jerry Garcia. I mean, it kind of looks like Jerry Garcia. Am I wrong? No, it does not.

01:07:38.453 --> 01:07:41.073
Who's the artist on this? Mike Hampton.

01:07:42.193 --> 01:07:48.893
It's a wallet. It's like a lady's wallet, I guess. Whoa. It's a non-gender based wallet.

01:07:50.273 --> 01:07:52.913
Okay, you're right. You're right. I'm sorry. I always see...

01:07:52.913 --> 01:07:56.473
Because there's a lot of room for credit cards? Oh, I didn't say that. Whoa.

01:07:58.513 --> 01:08:04.493
All right. Everybody calm down, but it's nice. It's nice. All right. Now let's have a... Oh.

01:08:05.233 --> 01:08:08.633
Just stick her hand in there. Don't look. Don't look. Don't look. Don't look.

01:08:09.653 --> 01:08:14.273
All right. Kelly Dunlapart. that should be my size shirt 32XL, sorry.

01:08:16.673 --> 01:08:22.593
And what do you got there? She's unrolling it it is a baby blue oh,

01:08:22.753 --> 01:08:26.473
I am definitely going to wear that hot mic but what does that have to do with Cheech and Chung?

01:08:27.233 --> 01:08:28.933
It's on, oh look, he's taking a little

01:08:28.933 --> 01:08:32.773
acid drop yeah, but is that bearish significant to Cheech and Chung?

01:08:33.173 --> 01:08:36.213
Oh, that's Cheech, okay I just think that's something that just happens to be

01:08:36.213 --> 01:08:40.073
in there it just happens to be in there you gotta fill the box with something

01:08:40.073 --> 01:08:44.673
exactly all right oh so it's the arts of their art thing yeah my homies all right.

01:08:46.219 --> 01:08:49.139
Have oh my goodness that's right

01:08:49.139 --> 01:08:52.239
we got the casier 360 lighter tool

01:08:52.239 --> 01:08:55.179
i'm gonna love this so basically it's

01:08:55.179 --> 01:08:59.379
a lighter that you put your you know you smoke you light things with and it

01:08:59.379 --> 01:09:04.119
has a little pick at the end to pack your weed what do you think mike i don't

01:09:04.119 --> 01:09:08.999
know anything about that kind of stuff i do all right mike next step i think

01:09:08.999 --> 01:09:13.579
it's the last item oh okay mike you get,

01:09:14.159 --> 01:09:17.139
It's the Cheech and Chong pin. Oh, that's pretty cool.

01:09:17.419 --> 01:09:20.719
That's pretty cool. I am a pin collector. I'm a pin maker. I've been in the

01:09:20.719 --> 01:09:22.399
pin industry for a long time. Yeah.

01:09:22.939 --> 01:09:26.759
But yeah, it's really cool. Cool art, cool font design, Cheech and Chong.

01:09:27.459 --> 01:09:31.239
That's very style-y. I love that. I love that. All right. I guess I'll take

01:09:31.239 --> 01:09:33.859
the last item out. Oh, nope. There's another item in there.

01:09:34.519 --> 01:09:37.959
And I hold it in my hand. Oh, hell yeah. it

01:09:37.959 --> 01:09:41.279
is g rolls unbleached extra thin

01:09:41.279 --> 01:09:45.279
cheech and chong rolling papers let's

01:09:45.279 --> 01:09:48.219
fucking go you know where you put these at in your

01:09:48.219 --> 01:09:53.479
bunghole in your toes in your toes yes yes that's cool awesome i love that i'm

01:09:53.479 --> 01:09:59.219
gonna use these for sure that's what those are very cool now cali does not bark

01:09:59.219 --> 01:10:08.159
i take the last item out yeah oh no right and it looks like another psychedelic something yeah Oh, man.

01:10:08.419 --> 01:10:12.439
I'm winning. I mean, I'll take for your t-shirt. Callie's the t-shirt puller.

01:10:13.419 --> 01:10:16.719
And he's looked like my kind of stoner shirt. What do you think? Yeah.

01:10:17.199 --> 01:10:20.719
It looks like the same design, just different color shirts, I think.

01:10:20.919 --> 01:10:23.059
If we can see the front. Yeah, if we can see the front, please.

01:10:26.819 --> 01:10:29.439
So do you want to put the green one? Are you going to wear one?

01:10:29.919 --> 01:10:31.339
I'll wear that one. Oh, yeah.

01:10:33.059 --> 01:10:36.679
You can curse. All right. Are you sure you want to wear that though?

01:10:37.319 --> 01:10:41.859
Okay. So I'll make sure size wise. About who? Oh, you've actually told me the

01:10:41.859 --> 01:10:43.299
story. Do you want to tell the audience?

01:10:43.899 --> 01:10:46.739
Okay. I'm going to hand the mic over to our content producer,

01:10:47.259 --> 01:10:48.919
the one and only Cali down the bar. Yes.

01:10:49.399 --> 01:10:55.099
Not a real long story, but just a cool story here. We're at designer con, all the art here.

01:10:55.919 --> 01:11:01.259
Cheech came and spoke to my school, my art school. He's a very avid art collector.

01:11:01.759 --> 01:11:06.299
So I got to listen to him talk about all of his art, all the things that he's

01:11:06.299 --> 01:11:10.179
done for years and years and years, the ways that he's intentionally collected everything.

01:11:10.819 --> 01:11:15.859
Very, very cool. So to win this shirt here today and this raffle is very exciting

01:11:15.859 --> 01:11:17.999
for me. This is a raffle? Yes.

01:11:19.819 --> 01:11:25.299
All right. So you can get your own My Homies box by going to myhomies.com.

01:11:25.599 --> 01:11:28.899
If not, just Google My Homies by Cheech and Chong, and you'll be able to get

01:11:28.899 --> 01:11:33.399
your own loot box. Mike I mean for like 20 bucks that's not that bad I mean

01:11:33.399 --> 01:11:35.139
you might even get to be in a

01:11:35.139 --> 01:11:39.699
raffle you might even you might even alright everybody we'll be right back,

01:11:41.043 --> 01:11:44.103
up everybody uncle dad here hanging out on the sidewalk

01:11:44.103 --> 01:11:47.503
about telling you guys all that designer con

01:11:47.503 --> 01:11:50.903
has come to an end designer con was great mike

01:11:50.903 --> 01:11:53.923
your first decon how's the film it feels

01:11:53.923 --> 01:11:56.803
good you know we got to see some really cool art

01:11:56.803 --> 01:11:59.943
and talk to some really dope artists

01:11:59.943 --> 01:12:03.363
that we love and i think we're inspired to do

01:12:03.363 --> 01:12:06.123
more things yeah i think so i think next.

01:12:06.123 --> 01:12:08.803
Year i want to become an artist i've been waiting for you to say

01:12:08.803 --> 01:12:11.783
that yes good you should what is your first uh

01:12:11.783 --> 01:12:14.563
creation going to be well i wanted to

01:12:14.563 --> 01:12:17.403
do finger paints and uh you

01:12:17.403 --> 01:12:20.523
know do like a blue moon yeah a

01:12:20.523 --> 01:12:23.383
blue moon finger paint so yeah we uh we had a great time

01:12:23.383 --> 01:12:26.663
at decon and it's its first year in vegas and so

01:12:26.663 --> 01:12:29.683
uh you know we also learned that it was it

01:12:29.683 --> 01:12:32.623
was mirroring complex con which a

01:12:32.623 --> 01:12:35.723
lot of people were there and so you know first time

01:12:35.723 --> 01:12:38.723
moving a convention to a new city there's always the

01:12:38.723 --> 01:12:41.483
the bumps in the road that you have to deal with but i

01:12:41.483 --> 01:12:44.223
think overall like they did a great job here i think

01:12:44.223 --> 01:12:47.063
as far as like having a con go it seemed well organized it

01:12:47.063 --> 01:12:49.803
seemed you know well put together everything the flow was

01:12:49.803 --> 01:12:53.083
good yeah everything i think was smart about the con way

01:12:53.083 --> 01:12:56.603
better than fandong con yeah well i wasn't there but i'll take your word for

01:12:56.603 --> 01:12:59.963
that yeah for sure yeah we're not doing that again next year uh but who knows

01:12:59.963 --> 01:13:03.583
maybe next year instead of doing designer con or maybe we do both we do designer

01:13:03.583 --> 01:13:07.663
con and complex con i don't know we'll see what do you think mike double double

01:13:07.663 --> 01:13:13.043
con double c's double d's double e's double trouble,

01:13:15.443 --> 01:13:19.623
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01:13:27.323 --> 01:13:31.383
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