Episode 150: Live at "FandomCon"(Talk w/ Ming Chen, Adassa, and more!)

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Hey everybody, Uncle Dad here, officially live at one of the most interesting

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cons I've ever been in my life, that is Fandong Kong, that's right,

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I said that on purpose, I'll explain that later.

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I am with one of our dear friends, one of our OG guests, the one and only,

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the man, the myth, the legend, Ming Zhen.

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What's up everybody, welcome to Fandong Kong, welcome to Uncle Dad Talks everybody,

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anytime you're interviewing me, it means that things are going good.

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I agree with that, and I also feel like fun is awry, it's close to us.

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I mean, listen, life is short, right? So, and I don't, I see what once a year, if that.

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So, you know, if we get together for even one night, we got to go have fun. We have no time to waste.

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No time for rest. No time for rest for the wicked, right? Like you just got

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to be all in and that's it.

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And I love that you live life very all in. What is the key to that?

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I think I, you know, just aging experience, I guess.

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Actually, you know what? A lot of it comes from when I was younger,

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no money, no car, no game.

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So i i would sit at home behind

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my computer watching star wars but i

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you know these movies you watch like you know i felt like luke skywalker

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i felt there was other things out there and i hated being

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trapped at home and even if i did leave

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the house you know maybe we're on a family vacation you you

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know you're young you have no money so you can't go up by yourself and do what

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you really want to do like even if your parents take you to

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disneyland you can't ride the rides you want to ride because

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you know you got to stay with the family and or you know maybe your mom

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gets motion sickness you can't go on one ride so it's always

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that long it's like oh one day man i get to do whatever i want to do and

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and i guess that's how that's what i'm doing now is you

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know you know you get a job you get a salary you get some free time you go

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off and do whatever you want to do but my experiences compound

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even more that i get to i can get into cons around

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the world so they they fly me out man they put me in a hotel

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and you know you do the con but

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afterwards time is yours so and and there's no

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time to waste so if you're in a cool city

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like san jose or you're in the bay area you gotta

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find all the cool stuff in the span of like three

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days maybe sometimes four that's not a lot of time it's not a lot of time but

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you know we do a lot of cons too and so like when we're out there we always

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want to do all this stuff but you never can hit it you never can hit all this

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stuff but i'm curious because you hit some san jose spots that i don't think

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get enough love so let's let's Let's tell the audience where you've been in San Jose.

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Okay. Well, you insisted that we go to a really great dive bar called Trials Pub.

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That was your home when you lived by, I guess, still your home, right?

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And that, you know, I hear that. I need to go. I really, I mean,

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wherever I visit is based on, really based on where, I want to go where all the locals go.

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You know, I want to go where they live.

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Hang out where they tell their stories, where they make their stories,

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where, you know, maybe they've been there for five years or sometimes 50 years.

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I want to go meet those people, hang out with those people, find those people who work there.

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And they're also a good resource too, because you're sitting there,

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you're a couple of drinks in and you ask the bartenders, like,

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hey man, where should I go next?

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Where do you eat when you get off your shift here? Like, where's the late night

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food? Where do you like to drink when you're not, when you're off day?

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And they'll gladly tell you, and then you go and it's always awesome. Yeah, I love that.

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And what's funny about this particular situation, everybody told you not to

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go to this bar we went to, including the bar staff.

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And that was the legendary, it is a legendary spot, the legendary Alex's 49er

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here in San Jose. Yeah, great place.

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We heard they had karaoke there every night from 8 p.m. to 2 a.m.,

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which is very rare, even in my travels.

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Maybe I have one or two places like this karaoke on Wednesdays,

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sometimes maybe Wednesdays and Fridays, but very rarely every day.

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And that's a good thing, because usually when we do these inevitably

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maybe later on it's like oh hey man where's the karaoke

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around here and you know sometimes the celebrities they

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love singing in particular i was at a con i was

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hanging out with patrick warburton who you might know as the tick it's

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putty from seinfeld as the guy from ember's new

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groove i mean he's been in a million things but those are

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the bigger bigger ones and we're hanging out at

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a rooftop he turns me he's like hey ming where's karaoke around

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here i'm like i will find it and we we found

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it we found this place and he loves Pearl Jam so we.

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Went up there he sang Pearl Jam all night and yeah

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but you know any place that has karaoke seven days a week we need to visit

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we heard it was a dive bar and all these

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came true however all the locals was like

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oh man you don't want to go there man that places that place is either you're

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either they they I don't know sometimes they say it sucks sometimes they say it's

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dangerous or they'll just fly oh we don't go there whenever

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I hear that it's always raises a flag which means

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go there because almost 100 it's a great

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place so yeah almost 100 so i

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love that you and i sometimes i'm like are they

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screwing with me like are they telling me not to go so

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we don't crowd it or maybe it's their place like sometimes

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i think they're screwing with me but yeah alex is 49ers solid

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place and we gotta give a shout out to treskies too for our teskies teskies

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we went there had some was a jaeger tea or what your tea yeah so if you're ever

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on san is a go to Teske's you got to ask for the Jaeger tea now it's not made

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with Jaeger Meister it's a it's

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his own drink that's called Yaga tea and but we all call it Jaeger tea,

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Okay, because I posted it, and people are like, why are you drinking a Jaeger

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at a German place? Were they out of schnapps? And I was like,

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all right, listen, it was good. I don't know what was in it.

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It was good. And a big shout out to Danny and her Black Forest cake,

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handmade, really good. Yeah, we were literally tipsing eating cake.

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That's where you know you're having a good friend. Oh, for sure.

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You're drunk, and you're eating a big piece of chocolate cake.

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It was so good. It was so good. And you can get that cake anytime you're in

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town. Yeah, I hit the spot for sure.

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So, yeah, that was night one. that was night

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one so again you know usually when i'm out try to

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like if we had three bars in one night it's pretty good sometimes you

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get one bar and you're like i'm feeling it i feel at home i'm gonna

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stay here but yeah i like to explore just see all

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the other ones so if we get three is very good four is good.

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We've done up to five or six though sure now it's

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sunday today and when this comes obviously time won't matter but let

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me ask you this are we gonna hit maybe one more

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bar before you leave i like do one more yeah one i

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want to take it to you called the doghouse okay you sent me

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a link to it it probably lives up to its name i

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love it yeah it's definitely your vibe i

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was thinking about in my head all night last night and i was like what are some spots that

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he would dig i was like that's the one that is

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the one there's no i think there's like two tvs it's all

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old it's it's no barely no parking but

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you know it's right next to the holiday inn like

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i cannot and it's open at 10 a.m every day that's awesome

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i saw this thing i almost bought it it was one of those like facebook ads it

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was like dive bar bingo like you know how you can tell a

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dive bar so usually like if it has the word yacht in it or

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yacht club it's a diet as a good dive bar there there's less

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than one window is a good dive bar they lost smoking

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in there it's a good dive bar you know there are all these

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like kind of like dive bar flat like flags on it

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and i almost i should i almost bought it it was pretty funny so and

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yeah that i mean they're true to life yeah i'm gonna look that up because i'm

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gonna need that for when i would do new orleans because i think we should find the

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dive bars in new orleans yeah there's some good ones there are ones

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i haven't even been to there was at locals like how have you not been there

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and i'm like i you know i was too busy at cafe

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du monde i was over at the dungeon i was over at the dungeon the sazerak bar.

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I was over at you know lafitte's not i left lafitte's is the oldest bar in america

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supposedly good place or you know the old absinthe house uh you know so many

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great places in new orleans but um yes i i uh it was But I have family out here,

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so I mean, they're more in Milpitas, like a little bit northeast of here.

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So I never really hung out downtown, so it's fun finding all the good gems here.

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I found the St. Pedro Square Market. That was cool.

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But yeah, last night was cool. So we started there, ended up over at Cash Only,

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which is a Johnny Cash-themed dive bar.

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Which was amazing. I think that's my place. Anytime I visit,

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we're going to go there for a couple of reasons.

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One, they have almost every cheap beer in America there, which is one of my

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goals is to drink every cheap beer in America.

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They had Stroh's and Hams, Merlin High Life, Montaki, all that stuff.

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But it was fun. I went up to the bartender. I was like, hey man i there's

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probably no shot you have a bottle of malort here do you and he looked at me like

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go ask the other bartender the other end his name is jay address him by name

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and ask him and you know it's kind of a setup right and i go up i'm like hey

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uh is your name jay's like yeah i was like i heard you're the man to ask to

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see if there's a bottle of malort here and he smiles at me and he goes to the

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back he moves over a couple bags of chips so they had one stashed.

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Back there for anybody who asks and i was

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like all right i have a bunch of californians here have never had it you

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know malort the worst tasting thing ever invented the chicago

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liquor for two-fisted hearty drinkers and

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i yeah i got six shots for everybody and you

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know they hated me for a little bit and so you wait you've never

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had it so what was your well how was your first shot

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of malort i gotta be honest with you you guys were

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all saying oh you know i've always heard the tails right always heard the tails

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but i love i sound horrible but i

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love like that weird shitty bitter taste i guess you

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would call it because like i drink underbergs every day that's

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not a lie i drink that literally every day and so i

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was like you know whatever the underberg is not the best i know that and

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so when you gave me the shot and i tried it i gotta be honest with you man i

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liked it like i liked the way it tasted you're one of the rare you're a rare

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breed i mean i do have maybe a handful of friends that actually do like it i

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i met one girl who's she sips it like like it's a cocktail that's i don't know

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if i would do that because that seems like it might be a little

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i don't know that's a lot that's a lot but i have a

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couple of friends that either for whatever reason their palates are kind

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of geared toward yeah that's not my still i hate

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it and people why do you keep drinking it is because i like introducing other

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people to it and like i'm not gonna be a jerk and not do it with them so what's

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it's a great you know what's funny is like i've never really thought about that

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so hanging out with you it's like that's such a great like party starter like

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oh have you guys ever had this shitty alcohol we got to do it right it makes people just go, what.

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Why would we do it? And you make them do it and then you all laugh about it. Yeah.

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And like, I, I, I don't hide it. I don't trick people. I'm like,

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this is really bad is that in fact, it's the worst thing I've ever put in my mouth.

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So it just adds up. And they want to do it even more. It's like a challenge, right?

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But the first time I had it, I was at Dive Bar in Chicago. I was with a bunch

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of people from a con. So we're all from out of town.

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And the old bar fly was in there. It was like, oh, you're from out of town? Let me buy you all shots.

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It was all malort. He did it all just so you could see 10 people's reactions

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all at once, like cringing all at once, which for him was well worth it. And he's laughing at us.

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And at the time, I was like, I swear I would never drink it again.

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It was that bad. But famous last words. Never say never. Never say never.

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Was malort worse than jaeger tea oh by

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far yeah oh god jaeger tea was like southern sweet

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tea compared to that yeah i was like oh how is this compared

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to like jaeger for net for net's the big

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one they're like how's it compared to forget i'm like man i was

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drinking for net all day next to malort man like for net tastes like like the

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best champagne next to malort yeah absolutely so you know you've been here for

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a little bit you know i wish i could have showed you more and maybe next time

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one day we'll get you out here again and I would love to do there's so much

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that San Jose can offer man there's so many great bars,

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restaurants I mean you talk about the high life Henry's high life is like a

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San Jose staple like it's one of the best steak houses and it's like old timey

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and it's in Little Italy you know like a lot of people don't even know San Jose

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has a Little Italy and I just think I'm so happy that you got to explore my little piece of home.

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My new home because you know I'm originally from Stockton and so

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this is my current home and not that many people going to talk about how great

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this place the place is i feel yeah yeah

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it's really awesome i love northern california i have

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roots here my family's here my uncle came out hung out

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me at the con yesterday took me out to dinner which was cool so went to a place

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called china chen i was like i love china chen do you really yeah i love china

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chen he just picked it because of the name i'm like because i was like he's

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like i want to take you at dinner i'm like all right take me to your favorite

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spot and he just kind of picked one at random like this is your favorite he's like i I just look cool,

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but it's a old school, like old school, very hole in the wall, Asian,

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like egg noodle house. It's like, it's basically Chinese pho.

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Like you know they don't use they do have a rice noodle dishes but they

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focus on egg noodles uh their broth is different like they

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don't boil it shin bones for like a million hours it's just

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their own chinese probably like sliced chasar pork and

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then you get i i got my shrimp dumplings and like all

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you all in it was like like 10 bucks or whatever so

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cheap yeah now did you but did you like it i loved

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it yeah i would totally go back especially i wanted something quick and like

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you know something that fills my soul for a little bit and you know

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perfect for before a night of drinking for sure yeah yeah

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man i love that you went there it's amazing yeah that's actually one

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of my so when i first moved here i used to live by campus and

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it's right by san jose state so i would go there like every wednesday

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and man it was you can get a nice fucking bowl.

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Of soup for like less than like you said at

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the time like less than 10 bucks for yeah it was amazing i'm so glad

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you went there dude it's awesome i love that now you didn't

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go everywhere here but is there anywhere specifically you wish

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you could have went to like i made a map um here let

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me see what i have on here you can tell me if they're good or not because i

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usually before i go on i just go on google maps i start saving i

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just start bookmarking places so let's see

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caravan lounge looked awesome that's a great place i went

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to cashew paper plane i've been to before very good like.

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Probably one of the best cocktail bars in san jose

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uh like haberdasher's like the one legit speakeasy.

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Drinks are pretty good like maybe not like not as.

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Good as paper plane perhaps what else do

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i have here i don't know why i have the san

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jose flea market mapped but yeah i don't

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know why i have a place called falafel's drive-in bookmark i have no place is

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amazing it's like that was on diners drivers and dives like

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it's a huge it's known for one thing though it's banana

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shake oh dude all right i'm into that dude

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yeah but that was amongst yeah but you know i had you

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know cash rolling we hit bears dive bar we

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hit uh i had you know i had the high life bookmark but yeah

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i wish we i wish i could take you to still og man i

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think you would like that place and uh the vinyl bar and then i

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heard this way fuck him long is awesome i heard oh yeah

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that's what uh and then i i saw man in ale milpitas

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there's a 24 hour indian food restaurant there's full

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places that are open till three in the morning there's yeah there's type places

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like i love late night asian it's the best

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man yeah and people sleep on that out here because they always want to go tacos or

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whatever and that's fine right but like sometimes pho

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at 2 a.m after a long night of drinking it hits the spot

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better than you can imagine yeah it's it yeah i only

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wish we could find one last night yeah yeah last night

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i got kind of crazy so i i got back it was two i was kind of hungry and i was

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like do i be a fat ass and doordash taco bell and i heard their their old school

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menus out now like the mexime and so i'm like screw it and i did and uh and

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it says gonna take about 25 minutes to arrive so i was like oh i'll just chill

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for a bit i end up i I fell asleep,

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but I woke up an hour after it got delivered and it was sitting for me down at the lobby.

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So, and, uh, but it would have hit the spot better if I got it hot.

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But you know, at that time, at that point, you don't care. But I'm here to tell

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you the Mexi melt is back and I hope it never leaves.

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You know what? I can't think of a better way to close up on this.

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The mixing house is back, and Ming Shen Hosen never leaves.

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Ming, it's always a great time hanging out with you, really.

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You're the best, man. Thank you so much for taking me to your spots, for hanging out with me.

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And, you know, I think we did pretty good for two and a half days.

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And I think I'll be back for sure.

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So we'll go ahead. The rest of San Jose, roll up Milpitas. We'll hit Redwood City, Daly City.

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You know, go up to San Francisco. And then I'll be at Stockton sometime soon.

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Yeah, Mike Millerick and Stockton Con. always has a special place in my heart

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you know mr d's pub and pizza without the pizza.

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I know that's what i'm saying anyway we'll talk about that a different day we'll save

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that for when you're in stockton because that's my actual hometown and that

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i want to i need to take you to the winchester bar but

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it's called winnie's now and i have a fun story about that bar real fast we

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went to that that's a fucking dive son and when we went there

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there was one time we were there and i'll just give you a little taste

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of the story we're all sitting there and all of a sudden

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you hear this loud crash because a car literally slammed

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into the front entrance of the door of the bar and the

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guy got out of the car and said hey can i get a whatever beer

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he wanted that is a dive oh it's

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awesome that's awesome i don't want to be that guy but i

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but i understand yes but i understand i would take you there ming

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thank you so much can you just tell our audience where they can follow you on instagram

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oh yeah uh instagram twitter facebook mingchen 37

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m-i-n-g-c-h-e-n 37 if

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you want to pick the diet bars food and comic cons

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follow along everybody yes please do all right

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everybody we'll be right back after this break boom what's up everybody this

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is aj kirsch uh live event host mc presenter announcer i don't know i do a bunch

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of stuff wedding officiant personal trainer who knows ajkirsch.com if you want

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to learn more about me but you are in for a treat because you're listening to uncle dad talk.

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All right, everybody. Uncle Dad is back here hanging out with a very cool, very cool person.

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So cool that he has to say his name because I don't want to ruin it.

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So let's give it up for... Hey, guys. I'm Eddie Correa.

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I am an audio engineer and I work on a bunch of anime and video games,

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stuff like that. And that's it. Goodbye. No, I'm kidding. I'm kidding. I'm kidding.

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Yeah, Eddie, I had to have you do that because in the history of my show,

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I have the worst time pronouncing last names.

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Specifically if there's any accent or anything like it doesn't even matter the

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accent i am terrible at it so thank you for saving my life there i appreciate

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that eddie so what is it what would you how would you like describe what you

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do i know like on the base level it's like audio.

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Engineering but i feel like it's much deeper than that and we don't ever get

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the opportunity to talk to somebody in your field so what would you

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describe like what you do exactly really you

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know we always joke about how it's like i'm the guy who handles all

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the tech work and hits all the buttons and stuff like

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that but really it's kind of

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just babysitting um and the

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most insane thing about it is that it's like it's

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kind of you know like anyone can come in and hit buttons it's

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like you know people will always like djs are always like

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the first example where it's like well anyone can go up and you know

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hit play it's kind of the same thing with engineering anyone can

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go up and hit play anyone can go up and hit hit the record

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button but the people that can excel

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the engineers that can excel is the ones

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that know how to handle every individual person in

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the room it's the ones who can get the director and the

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actor to mesh well make sure the clients are taken care

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of all of that stuff all while handling all

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of the tech stuff on top of that so that's

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really it really just becomes like a babysitting job at its core just with a

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lot of buttons involved do you i mean but it's got to feel pretty great still

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knowing you were a part of like that bigger project right like you know you

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uh you worked on one of my favorite games and that's uh well i always i always

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want to say riverside girls i know that's right it's rivers.

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But it's river city girls and it's one of the one of the

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best one of the best like side scrollers i've ever played and i when you told

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me you did the sound on that my mind literally was blown because it's so perfect

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man yeah it's it's it's kind of nuts it's like because i i didn't do the My

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friend Jeff actually did the first game, which was really kind of funny.

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So when I got handed the second, it was like this weird little thing where we're like, oh, okay, cool.

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We both, but it's, it was really weird working on River City because the director,

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Christina and V and I have worked together for years and years at this point.

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And she was the director on it. And working on the project was super weird because

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like, you know, I'm like, we're working on it and partway through,

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The client, we're like introducing a new character or something or we're recording

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something and the client's like, yeah, so this is actually one of the Double Dragon characters.

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And it kind of clicked in my head that it's it is Double Dragon.

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It's just it is literally just the Double Dragon universe, but from like a different angle.

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So it was always it just kind of blew my mind to be like, oh,

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I worked on Double Dragon. Oh, it's so much cooler now.

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So we're working on this stuff is always like really

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weird because we never really you know in the moment we

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don't understand how impactful it can

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be stuff like that you know every once

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in a while we get something and it's like oh my gosh this is going to be

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like amazing this is going to be so great when i

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worked on the devil may cry series i was already a

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huge fan by the time i had gotten in that seat so when

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i worked on that it was it was

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like you know mind-blowing it was dream come true really you

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tell the audience which ones you worked on oh so i worked on the special

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edition for dmc4 and then i

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worked on dmc5 yeah and working on

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those was just like you know dream come true because i was i've been

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a fan of the game the series since the first game came

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out in like early 2000s that game was

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the game changer i mean it changed the way you could play action horror right

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yeah yeah absolutely and and just working with like

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the capcom clients were always really cool and through

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that i worked with on a bunch of other things for

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those guys but yeah so it's like you

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know you never really sometimes you go in and you're like oh this is going to

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be so amazing i can't wait for when it comes out but every once in a while you

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get something like you know like like fire emblem three houses was like one

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of those were i i knew about fire emblem You know, I played Fire Emblem. I knew about it.

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But, you know, in Nintendo's eyes, they were like, hey, this is if this doesn't

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like do good, it's just we're going to be done. We're not going to do any Fire Emblem anymore.

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And it was such a huge project. It was like a nine-month project or something, that one.

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And going through the whole thing, we're like, man, this is so massive on our

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end. We really, really hope it does good.

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And when it came out, it exceeded every single.

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We were all completely dumbstruck with how well it was received and how well it did financially.

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And you know so much so that like fire emblem

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was like cool we're gonna keep we're gonna keep doing more

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every year now and so now there's been like another three or four fire emblems

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that have come out since then but that three houses games is perfection absolutely

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perfection so good it's so good and i know i know i'm biased as all hell but

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but it was so good and i got to work with a lot of very close friends of mine

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on the project so it was like it was such a fun project to work on but.

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Would have never known how successful it

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would have been until it came out and we were all just like

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um okay in many ways

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too you're kind of like the the silent heroes of this

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world right because a lot of people always think voice actor whatever director

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whatever they don't think about the other group of people that are all

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part of making the game so you should i i want

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you to know we always try to do our best to be cognizant of

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that world and i'm so thankful that you were a part of those games man because i love

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those games man those those games mean everything to me like

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three houses when i played that game my mind i couldn't

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tell you like i couldn't stop thinking about that game for a long time like

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my choices everything but the sound is

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so important because it it envelops you in that world.

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Yeah and you just did the work you did on that your

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team everybody you guys should be so proud and thank you and

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honestly i'm so thankful that i've gotten to meet you and be a part of all

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this so my question to you though

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now is what's coming out what you got going on

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can you talk about anything no that's always

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a tough one i can tell you there's a couple things because right

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now I mean of course we're in a video game strike right now there was

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a thing though that's pretty that's that'll

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be that'll be pretty noticeable when

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it when it comes out that I'm really happy to have worked

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on it's from a series that's been going on for a long time so

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I'm like very happy to have worked on it it's on

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hiatus right now we were working on it

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and then the strike started and then it kind of just like stopped

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so I don't know if we had just happened to

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finish right before the strike or if the company had been

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like oh we're gonna like put that on pause and wait out the strike which is

00:24:30.091 --> 00:24:34.411
like a dick move but like you know whatever so yeah if that when that comes

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out i'll be all like hey i worked on this but right now because the industry

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is very just all over the place at the moment i'm mostly doing a lot of like adr.

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You know, like random things, nothing that's like anyone's going to recognize necessarily.

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But I did work on this like little indie game called Corrupt. Really?

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Yeah. Oh, wow. Yeah. It's like this fighting game, this up and coming fighting

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game. I think they premiered at like GDC or something like that this year.

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And that was just like one of those random little things. There's a friend of

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a friend was like, hey, I need a guy.

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And I was like, cool, I can do it. And so we, you know, brought in a bunch of

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people and did the thing and just made this little fighting game.

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Which is so weird. And I think the funny enough, the only reason as they announce things in the corner,

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the funny enough, the only reason I got that is because I had worked on blaze

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blue and soul caliber years and years ago.

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And someone, and they just happened to like, see some, like someone had said

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something offhanded and they were like, Oh, he worked on that.

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Oh, I want that guy. And I was like, yeah, okay. You got it.

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Sure. Let's do it. I love it, man. So, you know, and I always like to end these

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interviews with like great, not great. I shouldn't say that about myself.

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Fun questions, I should say. So let me ask you this. What are your top three,

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your top three fighting games of all time?

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Ooh, my top three. Well, I Super Smash Brothers is always like probably my favorite.

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It's the one I played melee religiously when that was around.

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I actually played it professionally or not professionally, but I used to go

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do tournaments and stuff like that. in all the opens back when that was a thing.

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And of course, Ultimate is now just like, it's so fun. I have such a good time

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playing that with people. I love Smash.

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I'm not like a big fighting game person necessarily, but I love Smash.

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And somehow, I don't know how or why, but my brother got me stuck playing DOA years ago.

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It's a great game though. It's great. but it's

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like hard to be a doa fan without people being like

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yeah uh-huh you know you know because it's

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like yeah it's doa but it's like that's it's actually

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a really good fighting game it's got like really solid mechanics

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and i played i played four and five

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a lot for a long time and so

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doa was like my other like go-to fighting game i

00:27:01.375 --> 00:27:04.655
did some like tournaments and stuff for that but i

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think those are the only two that i like really you would

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say you love that i'd like love to play i mean

00:27:10.555 --> 00:27:13.395
marvel vs capcom 2 was also like fantastic but i'm

00:27:13.395 --> 00:27:16.795
also like not good at that game at all skull

00:27:16.795 --> 00:27:22.755
girls also like fantastic also totally ass at that game i'm like i'm like cool

00:27:22.755 --> 00:27:26.435
i'm like good at smash brothers and good at doa any other fighting game you

00:27:26.435 --> 00:27:30.955
would not catch me dead what about brawlhalla you play that i don't know if

00:27:30.955 --> 00:27:34.195
i've played that one you should check that out If you like Smash and the art

00:27:34.195 --> 00:27:36.055
style of Schoolgirls, it's very similar.

00:27:36.275 --> 00:27:38.815
Oh, okay, okay. Yeah, I play, yeah, I haven't.

00:27:39.561 --> 00:27:44.961
Yeah, I did. There was another Smash-alike that was really cool.

00:27:45.181 --> 00:27:47.781
Was it Rivals of Ether or something like that?

00:27:48.401 --> 00:27:54.381
I can't remember. But that was like the Smash-alike that came out on Steam or

00:27:54.381 --> 00:27:57.321
something a while back. And that one was pretty cool, but I was also not good at it.

00:27:57.741 --> 00:28:00.601
That's so funny. Yeah, there are certain things where I'm like,

00:28:00.661 --> 00:28:05.401
my fingers don't move as quickly as they used to, I guess. I don't know.

00:28:05.741 --> 00:28:10.901
But yeah, Smash was my jam. DOA is my jam. All the other fighting games, I'm just not good at.

00:28:11.201 --> 00:28:14.721
I'll take it. That's still two great answers. I love that. So I don't know if

00:28:14.721 --> 00:28:17.061
you want to, but do you want to tell the audience where they can connect with you?

00:28:17.261 --> 00:28:22.821
No worries if not. Yeah, you can find me. I'll have to like slightly look at these things.

00:28:23.021 --> 00:28:28.001
But my normal thing is the artist formerly known on Twitter.

00:28:30.081 --> 00:28:37.181
Artist formerly known as Twitter. You can find me at T-H-E underscore L-I-L-L-Z at The Lills.

00:28:37.181 --> 00:28:43.041
And i believe it is the same for like blue sky and i think instagram might just

00:28:43.041 --> 00:28:49.561
be like eddie correa or something like that i can't specifically remember yeah blue sky stole the lils,

00:28:50.261 --> 00:28:54.701
instagram i think is either the same thing or it's just my name those are those

00:28:54.701 --> 00:28:58.321
are kind of the places but yeah awesome please go follow this this person is

00:28:58.321 --> 00:29:03.141
so you know what it really struck me a chord when i got to meet you is that

00:29:03.141 --> 00:29:06.881
it was very you just felt very inviting welcoming and just human.

00:29:07.581 --> 00:29:11.121
And right now we need that more than anything else. So just so thankful for

00:29:11.121 --> 00:29:12.761
you taking the time and chatting with me, man.

00:29:12.901 --> 00:29:16.581
And your work is incredible. I mean, be proud of it, man. I love it. It's great.

00:29:16.741 --> 00:29:20.961
And next time I see you, I'll bring a copy of DOA just for you to sign it.

00:29:21.381 --> 00:29:23.781
Even though you weren't a part of it, but just sign it.

00:29:24.501 --> 00:29:28.021
I don't know. I'm pretty sure I worked on DOA. The Dreamcast one?

00:29:28.281 --> 00:29:29.901
Not the Dreamcast. I'm going to bring that one.

00:29:30.461 --> 00:29:36.521
I think I worked on six. Okay. I think whatever the most recent DOA is, I worked on.

00:29:36.601 --> 00:29:40.361
Because the studio I was working with at the time, they did...

00:29:41.326 --> 00:29:47.786
It was like BlazBlue, Soulcalibur, DOA, and I think there was one other fighting game.

00:29:48.306 --> 00:29:53.626
And I can't remember. But I've worked on so many random fighting games, and it's super weird.

00:29:53.766 --> 00:29:58.546
It's like Kira Buckland and I are neck and neck on how many fighting games we've worked on.

00:29:59.506 --> 00:30:03.326
I think Kira's now got me beat because they just got Guilty Gear or something.

00:30:03.686 --> 00:30:07.966
I think it's Guilty Gear they just got. But yeah, all the random stuff.

00:30:09.486 --> 00:30:12.906
All right, everybody. Uncle Dad is back hanging out with another superstar at the con.

00:30:13.386 --> 00:30:17.486
Let's give it up to the one, the only, Karina Betker.

00:30:18.006 --> 00:30:20.126
Did I say that right? Yeah, you did. It's me.

00:30:21.086 --> 00:30:24.166
How are you? Just really fast if you can. Can you tell our audience kind of

00:30:24.166 --> 00:30:26.226
what you've been in and what you do? Yeah.

00:30:27.026 --> 00:30:32.726
My name is, as they said, Karina Betker. I am an autistic non-binary voice actor.

00:30:32.986 --> 00:30:37.046
I voice Paimon and Genshin Impact, Tatsumaki and One Punch Man,

00:30:37.506 --> 00:30:42.066
Mizuki and I, The Somnium Files, Sailor Tinienko and Sailor Moon,

00:30:42.546 --> 00:30:44.466
and lots, lots, and lots more.

00:30:44.886 --> 00:30:49.306
I love it. Now, I have to give you a basic question because we always have to

00:30:49.306 --> 00:30:54.786
start with a basic question, and that is, how does one like you get into voice acting?

00:30:55.666 --> 00:30:59.006
Have a weird obsession with Jim Carrey when you're five years old.

00:30:59.266 --> 00:31:01.826
Tell your parents that you want to be Jim Carrey when you grow up.

00:31:02.006 --> 00:31:04.926
Get mad at them because you decided they lied when you say you can't magically

00:31:04.926 --> 00:31:09.106
turn into another person. and be like, you told me I could be whatever I wanted

00:31:09.106 --> 00:31:10.426
to be when I grow up, you lied!

00:31:10.706 --> 00:31:15.386
Have a whole meltdown over it. Then come to the conclusion with my parents that

00:31:15.386 --> 00:31:18.606
you can't turn into a different person, but you can be an actor like him.

00:31:18.706 --> 00:31:21.426
And I was like, okay, fine, I guess that's close enough.

00:31:23.146 --> 00:31:28.326
Honestly though, because I started so young, my parents were the biggest help

00:31:28.326 --> 00:31:30.226
in my life when it comes to that.

00:31:31.064 --> 00:31:34.004
One of the biggest support systems I've ever had. They're not perfect parents,

00:31:34.164 --> 00:31:39.944
but they really did were implemented like, you know, like this is what I wanted to do.

00:31:40.104 --> 00:31:44.064
And my mom was like, okay, let's do it. Found me classes up in Seattle.

00:31:44.524 --> 00:31:50.024
I did my first like community theater thing when I was five years old after

00:31:50.024 --> 00:31:52.104
I had that whole thing with them.

00:31:52.164 --> 00:31:55.124
And I was like, yep, this is actually what I want to do for the rest of my life.

00:31:55.264 --> 00:31:57.704
She found me classes. She found me auditions.

00:31:58.064 --> 00:32:01.924
So I started professionally working as an actor since I was eight years old.

00:32:02.464 --> 00:32:06.484
Yeah, in theater. And my first voice acting job was also when I was eight years old.

00:32:06.784 --> 00:32:12.344
Wow. What was that first role? Who am I asking? It was a promo for Resident Evil 2. Really?

00:32:12.884 --> 00:32:18.104
Wow. So the OG Resident Evil. Yeah, the OG Resident Evil when I was a kid.

00:32:18.284 --> 00:32:20.484
And I actually didn't know that.

00:32:20.684 --> 00:32:23.864
I had no idea that that was what it was because I was eight years old at the

00:32:23.864 --> 00:32:27.404
time. My mom was just like, Like, yeah, it's a scary movie or scary video game.

00:32:27.584 --> 00:32:31.264
And they're going to promo it at like some convention. So it's not going to

00:32:31.264 --> 00:32:33.484
be like it wasn't a commercial nationally or anything.

00:32:33.704 --> 00:32:38.124
It was literally just shown at a convention that was basically PAX before PAX.

00:32:38.304 --> 00:32:42.344
And it was shown in Seattle. And I think the convention was for trying to bring

00:32:42.344 --> 00:32:46.744
more Japanese game devs into the American scene when it came to making video

00:32:46.744 --> 00:32:51.284
games, especially because Nintendo of America's headquarters is up in Seattle as well.

00:32:51.484 --> 00:32:53.964
We call it Treehouse because it's surrounded by trees.

00:32:54.844 --> 00:32:58.224
But yeah so yeah i i did that

00:32:58.224 --> 00:33:01.584
wow that's that's amazing so you

00:33:01.584 --> 00:33:04.284
know obviously time has passed and now you're doing all these great things which

00:33:04.284 --> 00:33:08.264
is great for you and i'm i'm so happy that we got to cross paths today but i

00:33:08.264 --> 00:33:13.544
got a very serious question to ask you because i see your shoes i love dinosaurs

00:33:13.544 --> 00:33:18.424
i can tell you i love that you do too so we're gonna play this game not really a game,

00:33:18.444 --> 00:33:24.124
but you're going to tell me your top three dinosaurs of all time. Denonicus?

00:33:25.681 --> 00:33:28.381
Compi okay i can't pronounce the full

00:33:28.381 --> 00:33:31.061
name but those that are in the dinosaur world know what i'm talking about

00:33:31.061 --> 00:33:34.901
when i say a compi and a dilophosaurus okay why

00:33:34.901 --> 00:33:37.741
is dilophosaurus number one i like how they were

00:33:37.741 --> 00:33:40.981
completely utterly lied about in jurassic

00:33:40.981 --> 00:33:45.221
park i mean jurassic park i love that movie by the way when i was because it

00:33:45.221 --> 00:33:49.181
came out in 1993 i was three years old my parents were like you like dinosaurs

00:33:49.181 --> 00:33:55.381
let's bring you to this terrifying movie i remember this because we almost got

00:33:55.381 --> 00:33:58.841
kicked out of the theater because I was screaming at the theater.

00:33:59.281 --> 00:34:01.221
Now you might be thinking, oh yeah, because you were scared.

00:34:01.361 --> 00:34:05.981
No, I was screaming dinosaur facts because they were getting them all wrong.

00:34:06.481 --> 00:34:10.081
So the T-Rex is not a hunter, it's a scavenger. And we know that because the

00:34:10.081 --> 00:34:14.061
bones in the T-Rex skull, it resembles vultures.

00:34:14.441 --> 00:34:15.801
And vultures are scavengers.

00:34:16.521 --> 00:34:20.741
And basically, with the nose of a vulture, it has all of these cavities because

00:34:20.741 --> 00:34:22.741
it has different cavities for picking up different smells.

00:34:23.481 --> 00:34:27.821
Scavenger's sense of smell is so great, which is interesting for a vulture because

00:34:27.821 --> 00:34:30.541
most birds actually have really bad sense of smells.

00:34:31.001 --> 00:34:35.241
I have two parrots at home, terrible sense of smell, but vultures have a really

00:34:35.241 --> 00:34:37.921
good sense of smell and so do chickens.

00:34:38.261 --> 00:34:44.141
And chickens are the nearest relative to a T-Rex that we have because those

00:34:44.141 --> 00:34:47.341
that think that dinosaurs went extinct, they didn't. They live now. They're all birds.

00:34:47.861 --> 00:34:51.221
Birds are actually dinosaurs. Crocodiles are not. You know, some people think

00:34:51.221 --> 00:34:53.281
birds aren't real. Also fair.

00:34:54.661 --> 00:34:58.841
Because I got two government spies in my house. Oh, there you go.

00:34:59.961 --> 00:35:06.461
But so the cavities of a T-Rex nose sinus area is the same as a vulture.

00:35:06.941 --> 00:35:11.541
And also consider this. You even see it in the movie.

00:35:11.781 --> 00:35:15.901
You can see like the waters start moving because every time the Tyrannosaurus

00:35:15.901 --> 00:35:21.521
Rex makes a single step, it shakes everything and it makes a big booming sound. How is that a hunter?

00:35:22.881 --> 00:35:27.141
Any dinosaur in the area would feel the vibrations and go bolting.

00:35:27.341 --> 00:35:35.461
It doesn't make any sense. But a good hunter will, like, hunt an animal.

00:35:35.541 --> 00:35:39.241
And then the T-Rex, being a big boy, can just be like, yeah,

00:35:39.321 --> 00:35:42.061
you're going to fucking move or I'm going to eat you because I'm going to eat this instead.

00:35:43.201 --> 00:35:47.701
So that's the Dilophosaurus. Oh, did I even say that right? I'm probably confusing

00:35:47.701 --> 00:35:52.801
it with a different name right now. The one, I confuse a lot of names sometimes

00:35:52.801 --> 00:35:54.121
because my brain is mushy.

00:35:54.361 --> 00:35:57.541
I apologize for any dinosaur enthusiasts out there, but you know what I'm talking

00:35:57.541 --> 00:35:59.861
about. The guy with, yeah, he goes.

00:36:00.201 --> 00:36:05.741
The one that kills Newman. Yes. And squirts venom. They didn't squirt venom. Really? No.

00:36:06.361 --> 00:36:12.281
No. They didn't do that. Also, half of the dinosaur, no, like 90% of the dinosaurs

00:36:12.281 --> 00:36:15.401
in Jurassic Park, the first movie, were in the Cretaceous period,

00:36:15.401 --> 00:36:17.441
not Jurassic Park. Not Jurassic.

00:36:17.921 --> 00:36:21.921
Really? I don't think I ever knew that. Oh, yeah. Most T-Rex is Cretaceous.

00:36:22.141 --> 00:36:23.201
Velociraptors are Cretaceous.

00:36:23.461 --> 00:36:27.981
Also, Velociraptors in the movie are actually based off of the Dononicus,

00:36:28.101 --> 00:36:32.541
not the Velociraptor, because a Velociraptor is actually more of a size of a chicken.

00:36:33.041 --> 00:36:34.901
Really? Yeah. The...

00:36:36.574 --> 00:36:40.594
Dononychus is about five feet tall, shaped like a velociraptor,

00:36:40.694 --> 00:36:45.754
but the five feet tall version, full of feathers, and found in North America.

00:36:46.134 --> 00:36:52.234
And that, so basically, they, there's two theories to what happened with that.

00:36:52.514 --> 00:36:57.634
There was this paleo artist who actually confused the Dononychus in his book

00:36:57.634 --> 00:37:00.034
with the velociraptor, called it the velociraptor.

00:37:00.114 --> 00:37:03.674
So that was one way people thought, oh, maybe that was why they confused the

00:37:03.674 --> 00:37:08.394
velociraptor, the Dononychus. The other theory was Velociraptor is easier to

00:37:08.394 --> 00:37:11.574
say than Denonicus, so we'll just call it a Velociraptor since they're cousins.

00:37:11.834 --> 00:37:12.594
Sure, close enough, right?

00:37:12.914 --> 00:37:15.634
I love how passionate you are about dinosaurs. I don't think I've met somebody

00:37:15.634 --> 00:37:18.854
as passionate about dinosaurs as you. I love dinosaurs.

00:37:19.134 --> 00:37:22.214
And again, I might be wrong about a lot of the things that I said right now,

00:37:22.254 --> 00:37:27.034
and I encourage any paleontologist to please come to me and talk to me about it. Please.

00:37:27.614 --> 00:37:30.774
Open invitation. They want that. They want to be able to dive into that with

00:37:30.774 --> 00:37:34.274
them, right? Because I mean, could you imagine you're at a con and that person

00:37:34.274 --> 00:37:36.714
comes up to you and all you do is talk about that?

00:37:36.894 --> 00:37:41.514
Yeah. No, I one of the things that I have learned about me being interested

00:37:41.514 --> 00:37:43.514
in the things that I study is I love being wrong.

00:37:43.694 --> 00:37:47.434
I love when somebody comes to me and says, actually, you got this factly slightly wrong.

00:37:47.614 --> 00:37:50.054
This is what actually happened. I'm like, that is so interesting.

00:37:50.234 --> 00:37:53.394
Thank you for telling me that. And it creates conversation.

00:37:53.554 --> 00:37:58.134
And we both learn in those moments, you know, because there's a lot of misconceptions

00:37:58.134 --> 00:38:00.654
about dinosaurs for several reasons, mostly Jurassic Park.

00:38:02.154 --> 00:38:08.094
But like even back in the day when paleontologists were first putting these

00:38:08.094 --> 00:38:12.514
dinosaur bones together, they would put pieces together and be like,

00:38:12.634 --> 00:38:16.354
I think this is what it should look like.

00:38:16.574 --> 00:38:21.534
And so, for example, a lot of the dinosaurs we see, we see them almost very skinny.

00:38:21.714 --> 00:38:25.914
And a lot of paleontologists are like, that's called shrink wrapping.

00:38:25.914 --> 00:38:31.114
What they did was basically they looked at these dinosaur fossils.

00:38:31.114 --> 00:38:32.614
They're not bones. They are fossils.

00:38:32.754 --> 00:38:34.954
The bones are gone. That's why they're fossils.

00:38:35.854 --> 00:38:40.794
There is a difference. And to imagine what these creatures would look like back

00:38:40.794 --> 00:38:44.994
then, they didn't include any muscle, any fat, anything like that.

00:38:45.234 --> 00:38:51.834
So we also now think that these creatures were much pudgier than before,

00:38:51.834 --> 00:38:53.794
especially based off of the climate.

00:38:54.074 --> 00:38:58.694
Because there were three periods of the time of the dinosaurs.

00:38:58.994 --> 00:39:04.574
Did you know that we are closer in the timeline to a T-Rex than a Triceratops?

00:39:05.054 --> 00:39:10.614
Whoa. Yeah. I didn't know that. Because that's how long the dinosaurs were on this earth.

00:39:10.834 --> 00:39:15.054
Also, there wasn't just one extinction period. There were several.

00:39:15.314 --> 00:39:18.294
So people think, oh, a meteor hit and then all the dinosaurs died,

00:39:18.454 --> 00:39:21.654
which they didn't. Again, they're birds because birds exist. Birds are dinosaurs.

00:39:22.074 --> 00:39:26.934
But there were several different extinction periods, which is what created several

00:39:26.934 --> 00:39:32.994
different types of evolutionary possibilities that happen, which,

00:39:33.154 --> 00:39:34.774
of course, develop theropods.

00:39:35.454 --> 00:39:38.934
Theropods being the one that evolved into

00:39:38.934 --> 00:39:42.414
birds because birds are theropods yeah wow i

00:39:42.414 --> 00:39:47.894
i feel like i'm talking to what the study of that is is it okay i feel like

00:39:47.894 --> 00:39:51.794
i'm talking to a paleontologist then because you seem so educated on this does

00:39:51.794 --> 00:39:55.614
that just come from just fascination or from schooling where does that come

00:39:55.614 --> 00:40:00.134
from strictly fascination i and and again i encourage everybody need to fact

00:40:00.134 --> 00:40:02.174
check on me. I am okay with being wrong.

00:40:02.354 --> 00:40:05.054
Please, again, if I'm wrong, please tell me.

00:40:05.574 --> 00:40:10.354
And because I love learning. I love learning about different things,

00:40:10.454 --> 00:40:12.654
especially those things that definitely interest me.

00:40:13.234 --> 00:40:17.874
And the idea that these massive creatures

00:40:17.874 --> 00:40:24.234
once roamed these lands and the discoveries that we make about them.

00:40:24.434 --> 00:40:29.054
For example, a lot of dinosaurs back in the day, we've discovered cancers in

00:40:29.054 --> 00:40:33.874
them and discovering cancers in them could help us potentially cure cancer now.

00:40:34.394 --> 00:40:39.294
We can create vaccines based off of things that we knew existed back then because

00:40:39.294 --> 00:40:40.474
we can see them in the fossils.

00:40:40.854 --> 00:40:45.274
So bird flu existed back then because it affected the dinosaurs.

00:40:45.594 --> 00:40:49.154
And now we have different strains of bird flu, of course, and I have to be careful

00:40:49.154 --> 00:40:50.954
of that because I have two of them in my house.

00:40:51.374 --> 00:40:56.574
And based off those fossils and how it evolved, because the But one thing that

00:40:56.574 --> 00:40:58.834
is really cool about vaccines is that like.

00:40:59.548 --> 00:41:05.028
We basically have to make a vaccine that's not just good enough for the illness right now.

00:41:05.128 --> 00:41:07.568
We have to have it be good enough for when it evolves too.

00:41:08.308 --> 00:41:13.048
And seeing how it evolves over time helps us create those vaccines. Wow.

00:41:14.368 --> 00:41:19.668
You have probably arguably taught me so much in this small time that I've ever

00:41:19.668 --> 00:41:21.128
done in any interview I've ever done.

00:41:21.348 --> 00:41:25.108
Again, please fact check me. I could be, I'm not a paleontologist myself.

00:41:25.368 --> 00:41:29.648
I am also not a person that studies vaccine. This is strictly based off of my

00:41:29.648 --> 00:41:32.168
own personal interest in it. So please fact check me.

00:41:33.488 --> 00:41:37.848
Well, before they do that, though, where can our audience learn more about you

00:41:37.848 --> 00:41:40.248
and all the work you do and all the projects you have coming out?

00:41:41.028 --> 00:41:46.028
I obviously have a Twitter. It's called at the bird Zulu, which is one of my birds.

00:41:46.348 --> 00:41:51.108
I have a Blue Sky account, which is Karina Betger. I also Twitch stream.

00:41:51.528 --> 00:41:56.288
You can find me there, Karina Betger. I have a TikTok that I post a lot of stupid stuff to.

00:41:56.988 --> 00:42:00.768
And and you can see my birds on there and my dog and

00:42:00.768 --> 00:42:04.088
my dog who we're training to be my service dog eventually what kind

00:42:04.088 --> 00:42:07.128
of dog is it it's a standard poodle oh yeah she's

00:42:07.128 --> 00:42:11.088
really cute and really smart so you

00:42:11.088 --> 00:42:13.988
know this whole weekend obviously we're here at a con where you know

00:42:13.988 --> 00:42:16.808
just like myself you're a con expert we do all cons all

00:42:16.808 --> 00:42:20.128
the time what has been the highlight of this

00:42:20.128 --> 00:42:22.848
con for you getting drunk and high at

00:42:22.848 --> 00:42:25.628
a bar do you want me to keep that in oh yeah i don't

00:42:25.628 --> 00:42:28.708
care i spoke i am a disabled person

00:42:28.708 --> 00:42:31.688
we live in california we are currently in california it

00:42:31.688 --> 00:42:34.608
is legal yeah yeah oh keep

00:42:34.608 --> 00:42:39.108
it real i love it i absolutely love it corinna i can't tell you one of my highlights

00:42:39.108 --> 00:42:43.348
i mean obviously sitting with my friend ming chen is great but getting to meet

00:42:43.348 --> 00:42:47.628
new people and meeting degree meeting getting to meet great new people is what

00:42:47.628 --> 00:42:51.428
i why i love doing this job so much and i'm so thankful we got to hang out this

00:42:51.428 --> 00:42:54.268
weekend so just thank you so much for your time your participation

00:42:54.668 --> 00:42:58.528
and all the work that you do I mean you're in so many great things and I'm sure

00:42:58.528 --> 00:43:02.488
somebody listening is a big fan of yours so just thank you I hope so thank you

00:43:02.488 --> 00:43:06.708
so much for having me this has been really fun awesome I'm so glad you think so but before we go,

00:43:07.248 --> 00:43:08.528
before we go you got to play a

00:43:08.528 --> 00:43:13.688
game real fast and that game is what do you think is my favorite dinosaur.

00:43:16.338 --> 00:43:20.858
Oh, no. Can I think of the name? Okay, I can describe it. It's the armored one

00:43:20.858 --> 00:43:23.518
with the tail that looks like it has a spiky ball at the end.

00:43:23.798 --> 00:43:29.418
It's like almost, it's on all fours. Oh, gosh. Is that a stegosaurus?

00:43:29.718 --> 00:43:32.778
No, it's not. Okay, stegosaurus is the right one. Oh, okay.

00:43:33.658 --> 00:43:38.858
I believe that was in the Triassic period. I could be wrong. Okay.

00:43:39.318 --> 00:43:43.438
Yeah. Okay, well, you can fact check her and send those messages to her platform.

00:43:43.558 --> 00:43:47.058
God, please send me messages to talk to me about dinosaurs. I will gladly be

00:43:47.058 --> 00:43:48.498
fact-checked any day about them.

00:43:48.678 --> 00:43:51.138
I love that. Check them out. Absolutely.

00:43:51.378 --> 00:43:53.758
Just so thankful for your time. And we'll be right back after this break.

00:43:55.658 --> 00:44:00.058
Hey, what's up? This is Suli McCullough. Crazy legs from Don't Be a Menace to

00:44:00.058 --> 00:44:02.978
South Central while drinking your juice in the hood.

00:44:04.678 --> 00:44:08.998
And you're listening to Uncle Dad Talks Podcast. That's right.

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All right, everybody. Uncle Dad is back, and I'm hanging out with a superstar.

00:44:14.178 --> 00:44:16.078
Believe me, this is a superstar.

00:44:16.338 --> 00:44:19.398
And I'll tell you why I believe that, because I feel the energy radiating from

00:44:19.398 --> 00:44:22.878
her, and I feel it entering my soul, and I'm so excited.

00:44:22.998 --> 00:44:25.118
But I just remember one thing, you can't talk about somebody specific,

00:44:25.318 --> 00:44:26.378
but we'll get to that end of the point.

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Let's give it up for Adasa. How are you? I'm so happy to be here.

00:44:29.938 --> 00:44:32.838
Sorry that was too long of an intro. No, not at all.

00:44:32.958 --> 00:44:35.938
I just try to make them a little fun, but sometimes it can be a little,

00:44:36.158 --> 00:44:38.198
I get in my own little head, and I'm like, oh, what do I do?

00:44:38.298 --> 00:44:39.578
But I think I went somewhere.

00:44:39.958 --> 00:44:44.378
Adasa, let me ask you this. you're part of the movie, a global phenomenon called Encanto.

00:44:44.638 --> 00:44:48.078
What was that experience getting to that role like?

00:44:48.719 --> 00:44:53.039
It was wonderful. They actually sought me out through my YouTube channel and

00:44:53.039 --> 00:44:54.179
asked me if I would audition.

00:44:54.359 --> 00:44:56.539
Now, I never thought I would get the part. But then when I did,

00:44:56.599 --> 00:44:58.159
I was like, oh, my goodness, dream come true.

00:44:58.299 --> 00:45:00.359
I've been wanting to do something with Disney since I was nine years old.

00:45:00.479 --> 00:45:04.319
And so this was like full circle after doing music for so many years and working

00:45:04.319 --> 00:45:08.419
with Pitbull and Daddy Yankee and Flo Rider and so many greats to be able to

00:45:08.419 --> 00:45:11.919
do this again and then work again with Luis Fonsi doing the Oscars.

00:45:12.139 --> 00:45:13.239
And that was just wonderful.

00:45:13.699 --> 00:45:16.359
Yeah, it's like those experiences. is we never think they're going to take us

00:45:16.359 --> 00:45:18.939
to where they do, but they do and they feel so surreal, right?

00:45:19.299 --> 00:45:22.879
What has been the most challenging moment getting to that point,

00:45:22.959 --> 00:45:26.799
you think? I think the most challenging moment would have to be just waiting.

00:45:26.979 --> 00:45:31.699
Sometimes the waiting process of being able to get that last little dream that

00:45:31.699 --> 00:45:35.079
you want, but at the same time, it's really rewarding because you grow and so

00:45:35.079 --> 00:45:36.359
you're ready for it when it comes.

00:45:36.459 --> 00:45:39.959
So for those of you out there listening, if you have a dream and you've been

00:45:39.959 --> 00:45:41.959
pursuing it, don't give up, just get better.

00:45:42.139 --> 00:45:45.839
Get better at your craft, get better at what you're doing because when the opportunity

00:45:45.839 --> 00:45:50.819
comes, which it will if you don't stop before that moment comes, you will be ready for it.

00:45:50.979 --> 00:45:53.479
Yeah, I love that you said that because we talk a lot about on the show about

00:45:53.479 --> 00:45:56.299
passion and how when you're passionate about something, if you just keep pushing

00:45:56.299 --> 00:46:00.119
and you keep pushing, it may take you 20 years, but at some point you will get there.

00:46:00.279 --> 00:46:03.099
And that makes all that work worth it.

00:46:03.299 --> 00:46:06.059
And so I can only imagine like when you finally got and you got through all

00:46:06.059 --> 00:46:10.079
that, I mean, it must feel surreal to this day that you're a part of something so big, right?

00:46:10.359 --> 00:46:13.759
Absolutely. I think that all of us, a part of this cast, feel

00:46:13.759 --> 00:46:16.519
like this was such a wonderful moment in all of our lives because

00:46:16.519 --> 00:46:19.499
it was a culmination of not just who we

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are authentically that you're seeing on screen but also

00:46:22.259 --> 00:46:25.639
of our culture so to be able to celebrate being latinos and

00:46:25.639 --> 00:46:28.499
seeing so many of us that are such different colors and

00:46:28.499 --> 00:46:31.559
from different places within even colombia to be

00:46:31.559 --> 00:46:34.559
able to have that and and cherish that moment we really

00:46:34.559 --> 00:46:37.799
feel like a familia now you know absolutely and what's so great about that movie

00:46:37.799 --> 00:46:41.839
is that you know all latinx you know people we i think we all kind of got behind

00:46:41.839 --> 00:46:45.059
it like i'm Mexican myself and you know even watching that movie being so connected

00:46:45.059 --> 00:46:49.599
to just you feel the love the culture and I don't think we get enough of sometimes

00:46:49.599 --> 00:46:52.019
I feel like we don't get enough Latinx you know.

00:46:52.599 --> 00:46:55.459
Representation in that world, especially in the world of like animated film.

00:46:55.739 --> 00:46:59.599
So just seeing that represented so well, it means the world to me and my family.

00:46:59.759 --> 00:47:02.219
So, you know, for that, thank you for being a part of that, you know?

00:47:02.519 --> 00:47:07.199
And so with you doing all that, what has been the most wildest part of all this?

00:47:07.259 --> 00:47:10.519
Like, have you done anything crazy since then? You have to do one crazy thing, right?

00:47:10.799 --> 00:47:14.839
You know, what is that crazy thing? I think I've taken my family too many times to Disney.

00:47:16.019 --> 00:47:18.879
That sounds like a dream come true, if you ask me. Me, there's never too many

00:47:18.879 --> 00:47:19.739
times, but you know what?

00:47:19.879 --> 00:47:23.119
I think that it's a story that doesn't just resonate within the Latinx community.

00:47:23.119 --> 00:47:28.499
I feel we are seen and heard a lot more, but I think it's just family story.

00:47:28.719 --> 00:47:32.399
And so it doesn't matter if you have a Latinx background or not,

00:47:32.559 --> 00:47:36.879
you understand the story of a family and that everybody has a little.

00:47:37.319 --> 00:47:40.919
We don't talk about Bruno in our own family.

00:47:41.059 --> 00:47:44.239
So, you know, those Brunos in the closet, that really makes you really think.

00:47:44.459 --> 00:47:48.179
And even to your own ancestors, why did they have to go through some things

00:47:48.179 --> 00:47:50.499
or why is your grandma so like grouchy?

00:47:50.659 --> 00:47:53.859
Well, she went through things that you'll never have to go through.

00:47:54.119 --> 00:47:57.859
And so we have to have a little bit more grace for those who came before us

00:47:57.859 --> 00:48:02.079
and understand they do it out of love, even though sometimes love feels a little tough.

00:48:02.499 --> 00:48:04.959
Oh, yeah. I can relate to that for sure. So I know what you mean.

00:48:05.359 --> 00:48:09.359
So, you know, since Encanto, like what if you can talk about it,

00:48:09.439 --> 00:48:11.719
what's kind of coming out next for you? What are you working on? All that good stuff.

00:48:12.119 --> 00:48:15.839
Absolutely. I've been actually working on new music so I'm really excited about

00:48:15.839 --> 00:48:20.359
that releasing my music it has a little bit of a country pop feel and you can

00:48:20.359 --> 00:48:24.279
get an all platform so on Spotify or anything please follow me and that's official

00:48:24.279 --> 00:48:29.099
and you'll be able to find me there on Instagram Spotify, YouTube,

00:48:29.519 --> 00:48:33.339
Facebook and now we have the new upcoming tour so we'll be doing that next year

00:48:33.339 --> 00:48:37.399
as well as more appearances and comic cons so I will be able to do meet and

00:48:37.399 --> 00:48:41.399
greets with you guys in a city near you I love that. How many cons have you

00:48:41.399 --> 00:48:42.699
been to? Have you been to tons of cons?

00:48:42.899 --> 00:48:46.399
I have I actually never had done one until Encanto came out.

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And since then, I just love it because we can really come and be with our fans

00:48:51.199 --> 00:48:54.799
and be able to enjoy that moment and sing a little. We don't talk about Bruno together.

00:48:55.079 --> 00:48:57.819
And then I get to talk about my experience and answer questions for the fans.

00:48:57.919 --> 00:49:01.319
So I just love it. We really can just connect in that way. It's beautiful.

00:49:01.499 --> 00:49:04.999
I love that, too. So what's for this particular con? Sorry, not this con.

00:49:05.139 --> 00:49:06.759
What's the next con coming on your train?

00:49:07.299 --> 00:49:11.079
Oh, so my next con is going to be in February, and that's going to be here in

00:49:11.079 --> 00:49:12.759
California. So I'm really excited about it.

00:49:12.879 --> 00:49:15.359
Can we say where? No, not yet. Not yet. Okay. Okay.

00:49:15.579 --> 00:49:19.099
Okay. Okay. I just want to make sure. Cause I got to make sure the uncle dad

00:49:19.099 --> 00:49:21.619
family comes out and supports it. You know, that's what I'm saying.

00:49:21.899 --> 00:49:25.079
So my last question, cause we've got to keep it a little fun, silly.

00:49:25.479 --> 00:49:29.539
What are your top three country songs of all time? Oh my goodness.

00:49:30.339 --> 00:49:33.899
Well, I got friends in low places.

00:49:34.219 --> 00:49:36.699
Come on. You got to do that. Yeah, of course. Yeah. That's an amazing one.

00:49:36.759 --> 00:49:38.659
Yeah. I don't want to sing cause I don't want to scare our audience away,

00:49:38.739 --> 00:49:40.639
but I love that. That's amazing. Okay. So.

00:49:41.059 --> 00:49:43.839
One we got two more oh my goodness well i have to

00:49:43.839 --> 00:49:46.679
have reba mcintyre in there i gotta put in one of those songs because

00:49:46.679 --> 00:49:49.379
i love it and then i would say

00:49:49.379 --> 00:49:52.559
walker hayes oh wow walker hayes that's

00:49:52.559 --> 00:49:55.819
fun that's actually i actually think walker hayes is great that's amazing so

00:49:55.819 --> 00:49:58.399
talking about country really fast and you probably your music you're working

00:49:58.399 --> 00:50:01.699
on do you find that country is kind of going through a huge resurgence right

00:50:01.699 --> 00:50:05.639
now and if you do who is a current country artist that you're kind of really

00:50:05.639 --> 00:50:08.999
feeling right now i definitely walker hayes is one of my favorites i think what

00:50:08.999 --> 00:50:10.759
he's doing with country music is really unique.

00:50:11.139 --> 00:50:15.319
Shambuzy as well. I think Shambuzy is doing a great job being able to blur the

00:50:15.319 --> 00:50:17.999
lines between hip hop and country music.

00:50:18.299 --> 00:50:21.959
There's some great and talented people, even Beyonce herself just stepping out

00:50:21.959 --> 00:50:25.159
of her realm and not, I mean, if you hear her say it, she's like,

00:50:25.239 --> 00:50:26.379
I'm not country, I'm Beyonce.

00:50:26.619 --> 00:50:29.279
And you know what I mean? She's doing her twist on country music,

00:50:29.379 --> 00:50:33.439
but then honoring those like that are part of the movement that you just,

00:50:33.719 --> 00:50:35.659
you know, the Dolly Parton, you know what I mean?

00:50:35.699 --> 00:50:38.379
Being able to give a nod to her and be able to to do that but i

00:50:38.379 --> 00:50:41.039
think that if we just bring our authentic selves to what

00:50:41.039 --> 00:50:44.219
we're doing like i love country music i live in nashville but

00:50:44.219 --> 00:50:48.959
i you know i am a southern girl because i was born in florida so i grew up with

00:50:48.959 --> 00:50:51.959
a little bit of different styles of music but to me it's just like in honor

00:50:51.959 --> 00:50:55.259
of how wonderful the style of music is but i do bring my authenticity to what

00:50:55.259 --> 00:50:59.499
i do i absolutely love that you answered that well you passed the test so thank

00:50:59.499 --> 00:51:02.319
you for that i appreciate it one last time can you tell them where they can

00:51:02.319 --> 00:51:04.159
follow you all the good stuff Absolutely.

00:51:04.419 --> 00:51:08.939
Please follow me on social media at AdasaOfficial, and you can find me on Instagram,

00:51:09.219 --> 00:51:12.979
Twitter, TikTok, all of the good stuff, and Spotify as well.

00:51:13.699 --> 00:51:18.059
All right. Uncle Dad is back hanging out with a superstar, an icon,

00:51:18.679 --> 00:51:21.819
a legend, the one and only Saffron Henderson.

00:51:22.279 --> 00:51:26.319
Saffron, how are you? I'm fine. How are you, legendary Uncle Dad?

00:51:26.519 --> 00:51:29.759
Oh, thank you. I love that. I never get called legendary, so it's kind of nice

00:51:29.759 --> 00:51:33.039
to hear that sometimes. For those who don't know who you are,

00:51:33.359 --> 00:51:36.379
can you tell our audience kind of some of the roles you've been in and what you do?

00:51:36.919 --> 00:51:41.839
Well, I'm a voice actor primarily. I'm also a singer, and I also did some film

00:51:41.839 --> 00:51:43.119
and TV when I was younger.

00:51:43.459 --> 00:51:49.199
The film and TV part is Jason Takes Manhattan, Friday the 13th, Part 8.

00:51:49.379 --> 00:51:53.059
And I was J.J. Jarrett, and I got kilt third.

00:51:53.319 --> 00:51:58.199
I was the third one to get tapped by Jason with my guitar. Yeah.

00:51:58.991 --> 00:52:03.651
Right? So that, the weird thing is people remember that and I barely remember it.

00:52:03.711 --> 00:52:07.731
So I'm like, I was over pretty quickly, but the character is hilarious.

00:52:07.771 --> 00:52:10.531
And the movie itself is kind of goofy.

00:52:11.091 --> 00:52:17.571
So, but voice acting, I don't tend to get maimed or, you know, killed or assaulted.

00:52:17.871 --> 00:52:19.831
Less fun. Less fun. Yeah. Yeah.

00:52:20.571 --> 00:52:24.971
There's like, in cartoons, people don't necessarily die. They just fall over a cliff and go.

00:52:25.211 --> 00:52:30.511
Right, right, right. So, the roles that people identify me with the most are

00:52:30.511 --> 00:52:33.391
the original English dubs of

00:52:33.391 --> 00:52:38.011
Dragon Ball and Dragon Ball Z, and the roles were Kid Goku and Kid Gohan.

00:52:38.571 --> 00:52:42.951
And they're two sweethearts that I can't believe we're still celebrating now.

00:52:43.151 --> 00:52:47.371
We did those way back in the early to mid-90s is when we were recording those,

00:52:47.391 --> 00:52:49.471
and up through, you know, like early 2000s.

00:52:49.751 --> 00:52:51.371
And that's the ocean dub.

00:52:52.171 --> 00:52:55.391
Ocean dubs, you know. Wow. Yeah.

00:52:55.951 --> 00:52:58.651
Wow so when you have these i mean i would

00:52:58.651 --> 00:53:01.871
argue these are legacy characters 100 you know and specifically

00:53:01.871 --> 00:53:04.811
as we're talking about the you know being jj what i

00:53:04.811 --> 00:53:07.471
find about horror the horror audience and people who

00:53:07.471 --> 00:53:12.151
love horror they will never forget their first death you know i'm saying when

00:53:12.151 --> 00:53:15.591
when they've seen like i guarantee you that's i'm sure you know this that's

00:53:15.591 --> 00:53:18.731
so much it's somebody's first horror movie they've ever seen and when they connect

00:53:18.731 --> 00:53:23.511
to it they will never let go and so i think having that legacy of horror it's

00:53:23.511 --> 00:53:26.131
in my opinion it's a little bit more important sometimes because horror is,

00:53:26.371 --> 00:53:28.871
to me, the crowd is so strong.

00:53:29.091 --> 00:53:31.491
I don't know how many horror cons you've done, but they're so strong.

00:53:31.731 --> 00:53:37.511
I'll be honest with you. I went to my first horror con like two weeks ago. Monster?

00:53:38.251 --> 00:53:44.211
Chiller Theater. Chiller, okay. In New Jersey. And I was in Parsippany, New Jersey.

00:53:44.731 --> 00:53:48.491
I was too scared to go to horror con. So for years, people have been messaging

00:53:48.491 --> 00:53:49.451
me and I'm like, nah, nah.

00:53:50.133 --> 00:53:53.073
And like, it's too scary. People are going to be scary. I don't like killer

00:53:53.073 --> 00:53:55.793
clowns. Everybody's going to be really gross. People are going to chase me around

00:53:55.793 --> 00:53:56.953
with an ax. I'm not into it.

00:53:57.413 --> 00:54:03.613
But the funniest thing is they were the nicest people and the kindest people.

00:54:03.953 --> 00:54:09.193
And I had no idea that that many posters for Friday the 13th party were ever printed.

00:54:09.593 --> 00:54:13.453
No, it's crazy. Because, you know, honestly, like I like anime.

00:54:13.613 --> 00:54:15.373
I do. I like video games a lot.

00:54:15.553 --> 00:54:20.253
But horror is my first love. I love horror. And when I meet horror people in

00:54:20.253 --> 00:54:23.573
this industry, they are always the strongest, most kindest people,

00:54:23.613 --> 00:54:25.313
and they will have your back in everything.

00:54:25.713 --> 00:54:28.993
And once you're a fan, like they're a fan of all, you do 10 horror movies and

00:54:28.993 --> 00:54:31.353
nobody watches them, I guarantee you at least one of them did.

00:54:31.633 --> 00:54:35.993
So funny, because that's my only horror movie, but it's a strong link to the

00:54:35.993 --> 00:54:36.973
community, apparently.

00:54:37.333 --> 00:54:41.093
I mean, that movie will always, I mean, that movie's genius to me.

00:54:41.193 --> 00:54:44.013
Like, I love it. And if I remember correctly, that's Kane Hodder too, right?

00:54:44.293 --> 00:54:47.493
Yes, it is. Kane was amazing. He was really nice.

00:54:47.673 --> 00:54:52.733
A wonderful, gentle soul running around with my guitar, chasing me down the

00:54:52.733 --> 00:54:55.153
stairs, and then suddenly appearing at the bottom of the stairs,

00:54:55.313 --> 00:54:56.593
which is impossible. For sure.

00:54:58.373 --> 00:55:03.253
And the grad cruise boat is like on the lake. Now it's in Manhattan.

00:55:03.753 --> 00:55:10.473
There must be some sort of underground waterway. I don't know. It's pretty crazy.

00:55:10.813 --> 00:55:14.693
But would you consider The Fly 2 a horror film, or no?

00:55:15.353 --> 00:55:17.653
I'm going to be honest with you. I've never seen The Fly 2.

00:55:19.113 --> 00:55:22.253
So I have another very important scene.

00:55:22.553 --> 00:55:27.773
I last even a shorter time in that movie than I did in Friday the 13th.

00:55:28.033 --> 00:55:33.153
So gave birth to a larva and died. I know about that scene. That's you? Whoa!

00:55:34.073 --> 00:55:37.733
I've never seen it, but I know that scene. Just because it's always talked about.

00:55:37.913 --> 00:55:39.773
Because it's like the craziest thing ever.

00:55:40.273 --> 00:55:43.173
So what was that experience like?

00:55:43.373 --> 00:55:46.193
It was very funny because I think

00:55:46.193 --> 00:55:49.493
we shot it for a day probably and they

00:55:49.493 --> 00:55:52.573
spent hours and hours on it because I wanted to get it just right

00:55:52.573 --> 00:55:55.373
and okay so I'm sitting in

00:55:55.373 --> 00:55:59.173
a table imagine this I'm sitting in a table they

00:55:59.173 --> 00:56:02.273
have a fake belly going over the table so

00:56:02.273 --> 00:56:05.573
like you can't see me from like the the shoulders

00:56:05.573 --> 00:56:09.073
down or chest down or something it's all yeah probably

00:56:09.073 --> 00:56:12.073
they made like fake fake boobs and fake

00:56:12.073 --> 00:56:15.693
belly and then and fake legs and

00:56:15.693 --> 00:56:18.653
then a guy is under the table under my hollow

00:56:18.653 --> 00:56:21.793
belly with two sticks and he's

00:56:21.793 --> 00:56:24.633
making the belly undulate by making the sticks go up

00:56:24.633 --> 00:56:29.733
and down and like we didn't have cgi we didn't have big special effects this

00:56:29.733 --> 00:56:38.793
was 1988 or 87 even i can't remember and and so she screams and and a little

00:56:38.793 --> 00:56:42.593
larva comes out and the guy the actor said do you know that's the same stuff

00:56:42.593 --> 00:56:44.053
they use in sweet and sour pork.

00:56:46.875 --> 00:56:52.575
I would have been like, don't tell me that, please. I've never had sweet and sour sauce again.

00:56:52.815 --> 00:56:57.135
I believe it. Because that would like make me like just change my thought.

00:56:57.235 --> 00:56:58.755
Like, yeah, I know where that comes from.

00:56:59.515 --> 00:57:04.515
It was so gross. The whole thing was really gross. And then I get up after this.

00:57:05.695 --> 00:57:10.395
I get up after this exhausting scene and I've been screaming and yelling and sweating all day.

00:57:10.395 --> 00:57:15.875
I get up and like with the gross hospital gown, just all sweaty, stuck to me.

00:57:15.875 --> 00:57:18.995
I start i walked toward the door and there's mel brooks

00:57:18.995 --> 00:57:21.815
sitting at the back of the room just he was

00:57:21.815 --> 00:57:24.615
staring it was like staring at the whole thing and i

00:57:24.615 --> 00:57:27.515
was so exhausted i didn't even try to meet him i just walked right

00:57:27.515 --> 00:57:30.775
by him he didn't say anything i didn't say anything i was out of there and i

00:57:30.775 --> 00:57:37.375
was like wow this is my life i love that so you know obviously time is fast

00:57:37.375 --> 00:57:41.635
and you know isn't it always surreal how you know whether it's the anime stuff

00:57:41.635 --> 00:57:45.495
whether it's the horror stuff how your fan base just, they just love it.

00:57:45.715 --> 00:57:48.935
They love it. Meeting you is probably one of their dreams come true.

00:57:49.235 --> 00:57:53.155
What is that experience like still to this day? Well, you know what it's taught

00:57:53.155 --> 00:57:58.415
me is that because I'm still blown away that anyone knows about those roles

00:57:58.415 --> 00:58:02.275
or cares about them or was reached by them.

00:58:02.375 --> 00:58:06.095
Because at the time you just don't know you're doing the work and you're And all that.

00:58:06.515 --> 00:58:13.655
But what it has taught me is you just don't know how far your ripples will go

00:58:13.655 --> 00:58:19.375
when you do something that seems at the time like it might not be that important to anyone else.

00:58:20.015 --> 00:58:24.315
You just don't know who is going to reach, how far the ripples go, how big they are.

00:58:24.315 --> 00:58:28.995
And when I travel around to a convention and I meet someone from like a different

00:58:28.995 --> 00:58:35.475
corner of the continent and they've had an experience with my work, I'm blown away.

00:58:35.595 --> 00:58:40.555
And it makes me never want to minimize an interaction with a person or a piece

00:58:40.555 --> 00:58:42.875
of work that I'm doing or proud of.

00:58:43.095 --> 00:58:45.915
And always remember someone might be reached by what you're doing.

00:58:46.475 --> 00:58:49.175
Right? I love that you said that. That's kind of what we live by too.

00:58:49.175 --> 00:58:52.475
It's like, you just don't know where this is going to go, whether it's your

00:58:52.475 --> 00:58:56.395
acting, voice acting, or even just art. You just don't know,

00:58:56.555 --> 00:58:57.755
right? Like, I love that.

00:58:58.175 --> 00:59:02.115
So do you have anything right now you're working on that you want to talk about or promote at all?

00:59:02.595 --> 00:59:07.935
There's really nothing that I'm allowed to even that happens all the time to us.

00:59:08.735 --> 00:59:13.995
And half the stuff that we work on might not even see the light of day, but we're under NDA.

00:59:14.635 --> 00:59:18.835
I'm just basically working as a voice actor, which I love.

00:59:19.175 --> 00:59:23.155
And I teach voice students as well, like who are into voiceover,

00:59:23.375 --> 00:59:24.815
which takes a lot of time.

00:59:24.975 --> 00:59:29.215
And I get to work on video games, you know, helping in voice production for

00:59:29.215 --> 00:59:31.335
video games. So that's been fun.

00:59:31.495 --> 00:59:34.415
Yeah. I love that. Are you a gamer yourself, actually?

00:59:36.475 --> 00:59:39.415
That's okay wait i fall off rainbow road in

00:59:39.415 --> 00:59:43.795
mario kart okay so no so

00:59:43.795 --> 00:59:46.575
no skills no skills hey but you have a good time that's

00:59:46.575 --> 00:59:49.555
all that matters you know i i used to walk downstairs and

00:59:49.555 --> 00:59:53.135
yell at my children for playing cod you know get off

00:59:53.135 --> 00:59:56.055
your you're wasting our internet

00:59:56.055 --> 00:59:59.075
turn off the swears i love

00:59:59.075 --> 01:00:01.915
that i love that before i wrap up i did want to ask

01:00:01.915 --> 01:00:04.655
you a question but i'm a little worried about the answer because i have a feeling i know where

01:00:04.655 --> 01:00:07.635
it's going to go so i'm just going to ask because you're you're

01:00:07.635 --> 01:00:10.755
you know in such a a legacy horror movie

01:00:10.755 --> 01:00:14.235
and i'm a horror fan i have to know what

01:00:14.235 --> 01:00:19.595
are your top three horror movies of all time again i think i knew where this

01:00:19.595 --> 01:00:23.415
was going to go okay i will share with you which i've shared with many people

01:00:23.415 --> 01:00:28.475
that i did crawl out of the premiere of friday the 13th part eight after my

01:00:28.475 --> 01:00:31.415
character was killed off because i didn't know how the rest of it was going

01:00:31.415 --> 01:00:33.955
to go and I was terrified. So I left.

01:00:34.455 --> 01:00:37.715
Like I just left. I don't know. Did I ever have the whole script for the whole

01:00:37.715 --> 01:00:39.215
show? Probably not. I didn't even care.

01:00:39.715 --> 01:00:45.175
But I was like, oh, and I as soon as JJ was killed, I realized this could be scary. So I crawled out.

01:00:46.015 --> 01:00:51.955
But I will tell you, my cousin, rest in peace, used to drag us to her birthday

01:00:51.955 --> 01:00:55.735
sleepovers to watch horror movies at her house.

01:00:56.875 --> 01:00:59.495
And the one that broke me and made me never want to

01:00:59.495 --> 01:01:03.095
watch a horror movie ever again was children of the corn children

01:01:03.095 --> 01:01:05.995
of the corn whoa that's not

01:01:05.995 --> 01:01:08.755
even that i mean that's it's not that i feel

01:01:08.755 --> 01:01:12.115
like during that time there was definitely more aggressive horror movies no but it

01:01:12.115 --> 01:01:15.215
was deeply disturbing oh it's just super disturbing and i

01:01:15.215 --> 01:01:19.035
might have had a little chucky moment like i that again

01:01:19.035 --> 01:01:22.275
just really disturbing and like yeah maybe there

01:01:22.275 --> 01:01:25.635
was a little bit of oh what's the one with what's

01:01:25.635 --> 01:01:28.555
the one where she comes up off the bed or is she not the exorcist

01:01:28.555 --> 01:01:31.235
yeah the exorcist okay i read the exorcist see

01:01:31.235 --> 01:01:33.895
that i read the books i read flowers in the

01:01:33.895 --> 01:01:39.635
attic i read the exorcist i read like carrie i read that stuff and it scared

01:01:39.635 --> 01:01:44.235
the key rap out of me i couldn't watch it like when i watch something scary

01:01:44.235 --> 01:01:48.635
i go home and i feel scared for like a month well then that means horror horror

01:01:48.635 --> 01:01:53.595
works and i love it so i'm just really fast i want to touch something you brought flowers in the attic.

01:01:53.875 --> 01:01:59.755
I have not heard somebody reference that book in ages. And the fact that you just did, awesome.

01:02:00.115 --> 01:02:03.995
It was probably written in the 18th century or something, but I do remember

01:02:03.995 --> 01:02:05.935
reading it. I totally remember that.

01:02:06.155 --> 01:02:12.095
In today's standard too, it's a very controversial book. So I think it's amazing

01:02:12.095 --> 01:02:13.075
that you read that. That's awesome.

01:02:13.355 --> 01:02:15.495
Yeah. Yeah. But-

01:02:16.088 --> 01:02:18.608
Where can our audience learn more about you and connect with you?

01:02:18.708 --> 01:02:23.148
All that good stuff. Oh, on Instagram, on Instagram.

01:02:23.888 --> 01:02:29.708
I'm on Tik TOK as well, but I mean, I do try to stay engaged with people. I have a small account.

01:02:30.048 --> 01:02:34.548
So, you know, if you follow me and hopefully we'll get to interact and stuff like that.

01:02:34.688 --> 01:02:40.568
And I just like, I love coming to obviously to conventions and signings and stuff like that.

01:02:40.748 --> 01:02:44.048
And getting to actually meet people that has been really fun.

01:02:44.568 --> 01:02:48.008
Yeah. So I'll see you around, right? Yeah, yeah, for sure.

01:02:48.668 --> 01:02:53.648
Can you just tell them what the name of the account is? Oh, yeah. I am Saffron.voice.

01:02:54.648 --> 01:02:57.448
Easy, easy. Especially with that voice, so easy. I love it.

01:02:57.948 --> 01:03:00.888
Saffron, thank you. You were such a delight to talk to. I don't think I ever

01:03:00.888 --> 01:03:04.808
could have imagined speaking to one of my favorite deaths of all time. I'm not lying.

01:03:05.788 --> 01:03:09.128
The whole time, I was like, I know I know that. Where is that?

01:03:09.388 --> 01:03:11.208
And then it hit me, and I was like, and he goes, oh, yeah.

01:03:11.928 --> 01:03:15.148
Ming Chen's a friend of mine as well. And he goes, yeah, that's the one that

01:03:15.148 --> 01:03:18.668
got killed. He goes, I think I'm Manhattan. And I was like, I knew it.

01:03:19.328 --> 01:03:22.368
Yeah. That really meant the world. Let me give you a present.

01:03:22.488 --> 01:03:28.068
Oh, thank you. What she gave me, everybody, was an awesome, a very just as beautiful

01:03:28.068 --> 01:03:32.128
saffron from, what era would this be? 1980, right?

01:03:32.328 --> 01:03:36.768
We shot in 1988, and it was released in 89.

01:03:37.108 --> 01:03:41.308
That's right. And that's J.J. Jarrett. Yes. With her fully crimped hair.

01:03:41.488 --> 01:03:43.268
Yes. And her little leather jacket.

01:03:43.728 --> 01:03:46.588
Look at that do you still have the jacket i'm so

01:03:46.588 --> 01:03:49.348
embarrassed to say i had it for a long time and i

01:03:49.348 --> 01:03:52.208
don't know what happened oh bummer that's like

01:03:52.208 --> 01:03:56.068
history man at the time i was just like what am i gonna do with this yeah whatever

01:03:56.068 --> 01:03:59.688
right thank you so samran thank you so much it was an absolute pleasure and

01:03:59.688 --> 01:04:04.688
everybody please go support your your favorite your favorites doesn't matter

01:04:04.688 --> 01:04:08.888
who it is just go support because without each other who are we as humans we

01:04:08.888 --> 01:04:10.588
need to help each other so So thank you.

01:04:10.848 --> 01:04:12.968
Thank you so much. Thank you. It was a pleasure.

01:04:15.017 --> 01:04:18.857
Yo, what up? This is Jesse Hernandez, the Urban Aztec, and you're listening

01:04:18.857 --> 01:04:21.737
to Uncle Dad Talks, not your mama.

01:04:23.977 --> 01:04:27.737
What's up, everybody? Uncle Dad here, hanging out with confirmed,

01:04:28.137 --> 01:04:32.417
tarot card confirmed, the sexiest one out of us two.

01:04:33.037 --> 01:04:38.197
That's right. We are with Just Mike, or should I say Just Sexy Mike? What's up, man?

01:04:39.617 --> 01:04:42.717
Is that going to be my new moniker, Just Sexy Mike?

01:04:43.797 --> 01:04:49.577
I don't know i don't know if i want that what was that like getting confirmed.

01:04:51.137 --> 01:04:53.977
I mean you know i guess it's just it probably

01:04:53.977 --> 01:04:56.877
is what it's like when you get verified on social media it just

01:04:56.877 --> 01:05:00.357
means it's you're locked in you know

01:05:00.357 --> 01:05:03.157
i mean just that's what it's probably feels just like

01:05:03.157 --> 01:05:07.297
that whatever that feels like for those

01:05:07.297 --> 01:05:10.557
who don't know what i'm talking about go to our instagram please go

01:05:10.557 --> 01:05:13.337
to our instagram please give us a follow at uncle dad

01:05:13.337 --> 01:05:16.217
talks and if you do you will see one of

01:05:16.217 --> 01:05:19.637
our guests karina betker she is

01:05:19.637 --> 01:05:22.977
a voice actor also a a i

01:05:22.977 --> 01:05:25.897
shouldn't say she i'm sorry her pronouns are they them my correction

01:05:25.897 --> 01:05:29.577
they are a tarot reader

01:05:29.577 --> 01:05:32.517
i guess you would say and they did a read for me

01:05:32.517 --> 01:05:36.957
and i wanted to ask a very specific question because the audience wanted to

01:05:36.957 --> 01:05:44.197
know so they found out the audience was everyone was just hanging on the edge

01:05:44.197 --> 01:05:49.937
of their seat for for some time to know this exactly exactly exactly you know you know what's up,

01:05:50.557 --> 01:05:57.877
the the requests were just flooding in for this answer couldn't handle the amount of uh intake.

01:05:59.097 --> 01:06:02.957
Exactly exactly and that's why the universe said my

01:06:02.957 --> 01:06:06.537
captain is sexier than uncle dad maybe physically

01:06:06.537 --> 01:06:10.697
but internally boy i know

01:06:10.697 --> 01:06:14.217
well that's a different question for another topic for another time as they

01:06:14.217 --> 01:06:18.957
say exactly so mike what we're talking about is this wrap-up for this episode

01:06:18.957 --> 01:06:22.317
everybody just heard all the great interviews we did we were hanging out at

01:06:22.317 --> 01:06:26.737
a comic-con that i kept messing the name up and i kept doing it on purpose and

01:06:26.737 --> 01:06:29.957
that con i'm gonna to reveal is FandomCon.

01:06:30.437 --> 01:06:37.857
And Mike, I just, help me explain this because I never want to disparage a company

01:06:37.857 --> 01:06:39.497
or a brand or anything like that.

01:06:39.697 --> 01:06:47.337
But honestly, man, this thing was so horribly organized and the amount of.

01:06:48.563 --> 01:06:51.643
I don't how do you just i don't want to say failure but like

01:06:51.643 --> 01:06:54.583
i'm trying to find a way to not say that so aggressively

01:06:54.583 --> 01:06:57.563
i mean just let it fly man

01:06:57.563 --> 01:07:00.303
just let it go chances are if it was that bad it

01:07:00.303 --> 01:07:03.163
won't be back so it's probably

01:07:03.163 --> 01:07:06.003
safe all right well i'll just tell you this man this

01:07:06.003 --> 01:07:08.703
is the most unprofessional con i've ever been to in my

01:07:08.703 --> 01:07:12.143
entire career doing doing press and being

01:07:12.143 --> 01:07:15.023
a con attender and maybe maybe it would have been a little different but just

01:07:15.023 --> 01:07:17.923
being somebody who's worked in press and doing this for a while now and

01:07:17.923 --> 01:07:21.343
you know i know you're a veteran in this we're doing it for 20 plus years so

01:07:21.343 --> 01:07:24.683
let me explain to you my experience and you tell me your thoughts what do you

01:07:24.683 --> 01:07:29.763
think well let's go so mike was not there because mike was taking care of some

01:07:29.763 --> 01:07:35.263
puerto rican babies in the rainforest am i correct yeah i mean we weren't supposed

01:07:35.263 --> 01:07:39.723
to talk about that but now the world knows so yes i was taking that's exactly what i was doing.

01:07:43.823 --> 01:07:46.823
So phantom con starts off on a friday this

01:07:46.823 --> 01:07:50.343
past friday and it's in san jose california and

01:07:50.343 --> 01:07:54.183
you know we have a good friend attending you know we became much closer this

01:07:54.183 --> 01:07:57.463
weekend but we have a good friend named ming chen who's also on the show we

01:07:57.463 --> 01:08:02.123
just heard big fan of kevin smith convict man you know he's he's technically

01:08:02.123 --> 01:08:05.783
kind of been in and out of our entire podcast career for the past five years

01:08:05.783 --> 01:08:09.923
so you know it's very fortunate we know because if i didn't know this guy,

01:08:10.623 --> 01:08:14.463
we would have got nothing and we would have been just completely left in the

01:08:14.463 --> 01:08:19.263
cold so let me explain we walk up the first thing you ask anytime getting your

01:08:19.263 --> 01:08:24.223
ticket is what hey where's the press sign up right where's press registration

01:08:24.223 --> 01:08:28.083
i'm trying to get my press badge multiple people looked at me like,

01:08:28.743 --> 01:08:34.203
what is a press badge what are you talking about i've never even heard of a badge which is insane,

01:08:35.243 --> 01:08:39.023
So then I, there's this woman who looks professional.

01:08:39.243 --> 01:08:43.863
She tells me, Hey, you're also looking for a press badge. Who did you speak to?

01:08:44.323 --> 01:08:51.303
So I got, I got approved by a guy and I'm going to name him because boy, his name is booster.

01:08:52.983 --> 01:08:56.943
Like rooster. Yes, but he boosted me, if you will.

01:08:58.683 --> 01:09:02.343
And he allegedly gave me.

01:09:02.756 --> 01:09:08.296
Me and another person waiting for press badge approval, but never followed up on the secondary.

01:09:08.796 --> 01:09:11.316
Now, usually in this world of press, to give people a backstage look,

01:09:11.796 --> 01:09:14.916
usually there's always the initial, hey, we can give you this. Do you want it?

01:09:15.276 --> 01:09:17.536
And then they give you, you say yes or no. And then they say,

01:09:17.676 --> 01:09:19.236
okay. And they give you the confirmation.

01:09:19.656 --> 01:09:22.336
Now, they didn't give us the confirmation. But in my experience,

01:09:22.616 --> 01:09:27.256
when you're told, yeah, we have passes waiting for you, that usually is kind of all you need.

01:09:27.616 --> 01:09:31.136
So when I went there and we're waiting, they couldn't find us.

01:09:31.376 --> 01:09:34.416
They couldn't find anybody. that couldn't nobody knew who booster was

01:09:34.416 --> 01:09:37.796
like booster right and

01:09:37.796 --> 01:09:43.036
well and mind you the guy who owns it his name is galaxy that's

01:09:43.036 --> 01:09:45.816
not even a joke are these burning man names or like

01:09:45.816 --> 01:09:48.796
actual names no because burning man people would actually care

01:09:48.796 --> 01:09:52.996
yeah yeah okay so

01:09:52.996 --> 01:09:56.436
she leaves and i'm not kidding you mike she's

01:09:56.436 --> 01:10:00.136
gone literally for almost two hours and we're

01:10:00.136 --> 01:10:03.236
just sitting out in the cold waiting because they're not letting people in their

01:10:03.236 --> 01:10:05.956
computer systems broke down there's a line from the

01:10:05.956 --> 01:10:09.056
opening of you've been the san jose convention center so the front

01:10:09.056 --> 01:10:11.956
of the san jose convention center all the way to the sidewalk there's a

01:10:11.956 --> 01:10:16.456
never-ending line because they can't check anybody in not even attendees anybody

01:10:16.456 --> 01:10:20.296
not even attendees yeah they just can't because they had no system i guess which

01:10:20.296 --> 01:10:24.296
makes no sense to me but that's a different story so i'm waiting i'm talking

01:10:24.296 --> 01:10:25.376
to this other person they were

01:10:25.376 --> 01:10:30.356
great they were really really awesome and finally this guy comes down.

01:10:31.236 --> 01:10:36.016
Slender, tall, white guy, seems to think he knows everything because immediately

01:10:36.016 --> 01:10:39.616
when he tells me, first thing he says to me is, what are you doing here?

01:10:39.736 --> 01:10:41.256
What's your thing? What do you want?

01:10:41.556 --> 01:10:46.256
And I go, okay, we're just waiting for press. Me and this gentleman here,

01:10:46.316 --> 01:10:48.516
we're waiting here for a while. What's going on?

01:10:49.056 --> 01:10:52.136
Can you please, well, we don't have press here. And I was like,

01:10:52.236 --> 01:10:55.716
well, that doesn't make any sense because I have an email verifying that I was.

01:10:56.617 --> 01:10:59.337
Accepted for this and also it even says on

01:10:59.337 --> 01:11:02.577
your website that you have press registration so why would you not have press

01:11:02.577 --> 01:11:05.257
well who gave it to you and there i said the name and they

01:11:05.257 --> 01:11:08.157
go we don't know a booster i don't know who that is and i

01:11:08.157 --> 01:11:11.657
go okay well i have verification of

01:11:11.657 --> 01:11:15.197
these emails and then the other guy had emails shows them and

01:11:15.197 --> 01:11:17.977
he goes well i don't know what you're i don't know what you guys want for me so

01:11:17.977 --> 01:11:20.677
let me go see and he disappears so that's already a bad

01:11:20.677 --> 01:11:23.377
start so just that part alone what do

01:11:23.377 --> 01:11:26.277
you think about that mike well yeah i mean first of

01:11:26.277 --> 01:11:29.317
all the way he approached you like what do you what who

01:11:29.317 --> 01:11:32.237
are you what do you need like what are you what are

01:11:32.237 --> 01:11:36.557
you doing here what i mean i don't know very welcoming

01:11:36.557 --> 01:11:42.537
yeah that's that's exactly how if you are a new con how you would approach how

01:11:42.537 --> 01:11:47.657
you would approach people sounds totally great as a new convention yes yes good

01:11:47.657 --> 01:11:54.517
job that guy so slender man it's all slender man right so but before he laughs,

01:11:54.597 --> 01:11:56.097
one of the comments that stood out to me, he goes,

01:11:56.497 --> 01:11:58.777
you know, I told him, I go, you know, I'm not trying to make a big deal about it.

01:11:58.857 --> 01:12:02.017
Just, you know, I live here so it's, you know, I can leave. It's not that big a deal.

01:12:02.477 --> 01:12:07.477
But I go, this person came all the way from Sacramento and bought a hotel for the weekend, you know?

01:12:08.117 --> 01:12:11.917
And he goes, I get it. I get it. I work in press too. I work for food and wine.

01:12:13.437 --> 01:12:18.297
Okay. What is that? Right. Like if you, okay, so you get it,

01:12:18.457 --> 01:12:20.057
but we're still out here. Okay. Whatever.

01:12:20.317 --> 01:12:23.657
Yeah. And you're, and you're, and you're approaching us in this tone when you

01:12:23.657 --> 01:12:24.957
know we're out here waiting for press.

01:12:25.877 --> 01:12:29.937
Exactly. Like, get out of here. So he leaves. And then, mind you,

01:12:29.977 --> 01:12:31.737
this whole time I'm texting with Ming Chen.

01:12:32.097 --> 01:12:35.577
And he's asking me, he goes, what's the problem? What's taking so long? And I go, dude.

01:12:35.677 --> 01:12:38.097
And I explained everything to him. And he was like, all right,

01:12:38.177 --> 01:12:40.577
man, if he's not there in a few minutes, I'm just going to come get you.

01:12:40.757 --> 01:12:43.677
Now, again, if I didn't know Ming Chen, I wouldn't be in, right?

01:12:43.777 --> 01:12:47.277
And I'm thankful that I do. And that was very kind of Ming to help us out.

01:12:48.057 --> 01:12:51.037
But the guy comes back and Ming just walks in.

01:12:51.717 --> 01:12:56.277
Now, I'm not kidding you, dude. He looks at me and he looks at Ming and he tells

01:12:56.277 --> 01:13:01.017
Ming and me specifically looking at Ming first saying, you know, you guys can't come in.

01:13:01.177 --> 01:13:04.917
So what we're going to do is we completely banned press. So I'm only going to

01:13:04.917 --> 01:13:07.417
offer you just a free Friday badge. That's all I can do.

01:13:07.577 --> 01:13:12.137
And Ming goes, I'm the guest here. He didn't even know that that was the guest.

01:13:14.437 --> 01:13:17.877
Wow. Okay. So then what happens?

01:13:19.077 --> 01:13:23.317
So he goes, and now he's telling me and the other guy that was also waiting.

01:13:23.477 --> 01:13:26.417
Now that guy's upset because he's like, well, that's not fair.

01:13:26.497 --> 01:13:27.397
It's very misleading because...

01:13:28.296 --> 01:13:31.256
I came from Sacramento. He has a crew of two more people with him.

01:13:31.696 --> 01:13:36.036
So they'll give him one badge for Friday. Now, mind you, Friday is from 5 to

01:13:36.036 --> 01:13:38.476
11 p.m. At this point, it's already 7 o'clock.

01:13:38.916 --> 01:13:42.196
So how much time is that guy really going to get, right? And secondly,

01:13:42.816 --> 01:13:45.816
his other team, he wouldn't give him a discount or nothing.

01:13:46.056 --> 01:13:49.196
So he had to buy tickets. And he goes, well, I'm not going to pay for that if

01:13:49.196 --> 01:13:51.796
I can't even get interviews. Because then he says, you guys can come in.

01:13:52.876 --> 01:13:59.056
The Slenderman says, you guys can come in, but you cannot, absolutely not interview

01:13:59.056 --> 01:14:03.616
anyone because press is banned from this event. Hmm.

01:14:04.276 --> 01:14:08.576
Banned? Yeah. And then Ming goes, what do you mean banned? He goes,

01:14:08.896 --> 01:14:10.936
I don't know. I can't talk about it. So nope, no interviews.

01:14:11.136 --> 01:14:12.196
That's it. Nope, no interviews.

01:14:12.736 --> 01:14:16.056
He goes, so this is all I got for you. And then the other, and again,

01:14:16.256 --> 01:14:19.456
you know, Ming came, he gave me a whole, a whole like, you know, guest pass.

01:14:20.816 --> 01:14:23.856
So I just left and I could hear the other guy talking to him and the other guy

01:14:23.856 --> 01:14:27.516
goes, well, can I change it for a Friday to Saturday? Can I at least do that?

01:14:27.936 --> 01:14:31.636
And he says, nope, this is all I got for you. That's it.

01:14:32.596 --> 01:14:37.076
And so, you know, Ming takes me in and Ming is telling me too,

01:14:37.236 --> 01:14:40.156
like, and he knows I'm talking about this because I told him I was going to talk about it.

01:14:40.476 --> 01:14:46.716
And Ming goes, it's crazy. I've never heard of a con. Your first con, why would you ban press?

01:14:47.416 --> 01:14:50.676
Yeah. Like, why don't you want people to know about this con? Like,

01:14:50.756 --> 01:14:56.076
I've never even heard this con existed until you said you were there and

01:14:56.076 --> 01:14:59.196
so the thing is too right it's like and he actually had

01:14:59.196 --> 01:15:02.856
a great point he goes they didn't you didn't have a story right well guess what

01:15:02.856 --> 01:15:07.316
now you have a story to tell and it's not the story they want out you know what

01:15:07.316 --> 01:15:11.136
i mean and i'm like you totally like why would you treat people one why would

01:15:11.136 --> 01:15:14.636
you treat people like that in general and two you know these people have some

01:15:14.636 --> 01:15:16.896
sort of press representation so why would you,

01:15:17.816 --> 01:15:20.736
know no matter if it's a big circle or a little circle right word

01:15:20.736 --> 01:15:23.656
always gets around why would you do that so anyways that was

01:15:23.656 --> 01:15:26.456
my initial walk-in i'm very curious

01:15:26.456 --> 01:15:33.136
about your overall thoughts on this well you know i my my my initial thought

01:15:33.136 --> 01:15:38.956
is that you know whoever you were speaking to dropped the ball at some point

01:15:38.956 --> 01:15:44.336
and so this guy like they probably don't have any credentials to offer you.

01:15:44.936 --> 01:15:47.796
It's a new convention. Like I said, I've never even heard of it,

01:15:47.856 --> 01:15:50.556
so there probably isn't a lot of people applying for press.

01:15:50.656 --> 01:15:53.336
You said there was one other dude? Yeah. So...

01:15:54.466 --> 01:15:56.906
They probably don't have anything to offer you. So this guy is just trying to

01:15:56.906 --> 01:15:59.986
come up with a way to give you something to get rid of you.

01:16:00.366 --> 01:16:03.386
Sure. You know, and he's putting up the hard, the hard wall.

01:16:03.606 --> 01:16:07.206
Nope. That's all I got for you. That's all I got, you know, and like leaves

01:16:07.206 --> 01:16:10.726
a zero opening for a conversation to go from there, you know? Yeah.

01:16:11.606 --> 01:16:14.746
And I mean, obviously that's, that's horrible customer service.

01:16:14.886 --> 01:16:18.346
That's a horrible way to represent your brand, you know, but I,

01:16:18.346 --> 01:16:20.566
I do, I just think it's, it's, it's a mess.

01:16:20.766 --> 01:16:23.686
If it's a first time convention, I don't know if these people put on a convention

01:16:23.686 --> 01:16:29.726
somewhere else under a different name but it's yeah but it sounds like it just sounds like completely.

01:16:30.866 --> 01:16:33.686
Disorganization oh totally and my thing was like could you imagine

01:16:33.686 --> 01:16:36.426
you know mike like like you you know you you're currently based in

01:16:36.426 --> 01:16:39.766
northern california right we're talking about sack all time you came

01:16:39.766 --> 01:16:42.426
down here and you got a hotel room just to you know to help me out and be part

01:16:42.426 --> 01:16:46.326
of this or help each other out right you'd be fucking livid wouldn't you well

01:16:46.326 --> 01:16:51.266
you know yeah and hotels in san jose aren't cheap and you know you drive down

01:16:51.266 --> 01:16:55.466
from from you know it's it's it's over a couple hours to drive from sacramento

01:16:55.466 --> 01:16:59.646
to san jose yeah i don't i wouldn't just take that and,

01:17:00.226 --> 01:17:03.126
and then leave like i would i don't

01:17:03.126 --> 01:17:05.966
know i don't know you know you never know what you're gonna do till you're in

01:17:05.966 --> 01:17:08.906
the situation yourself but i don't

01:17:08.906 --> 01:17:11.486
think i would just take tall slender man's that's all

01:17:11.486 --> 01:17:14.206
i got for you is one friday pass you know

01:17:14.206 --> 01:17:17.026
you're not gonna get what are you gonna get from 7 to 11 on

01:17:17.026 --> 01:17:20.066
a friday anyway probably not especially if

01:17:20.066 --> 01:17:23.066
they say you can't interview anybody like why why is

01:17:23.066 --> 01:17:25.846
press banned you know who is this person on my

01:17:25.846 --> 01:17:28.626
email like yeah that's just that

01:17:28.626 --> 01:17:32.646
sounds disgusting dude and it's also weird too how are you guys not aware of

01:17:32.646 --> 01:17:38.186
who this person is like he has an official it's an official fandom fandom con

01:17:38.186 --> 01:17:43.506
email so why would he not how do you not know right how do you not know yeah

01:17:43.506 --> 01:17:46.766
you know and so they're owned by a company called Spoiler Media,

01:17:46.986 --> 01:17:49.546
and for those who go to Comic-Con all the time like we do.

01:17:50.206 --> 01:17:53.646
San Diego Comic-Con I'm speaking of, they always have a group of people walking

01:17:53.646 --> 01:17:55.206
the streets handing out free magazines.

01:17:55.486 --> 01:17:58.726
I don't know if you've ever seen that before, but it's always a free magazine,

01:17:58.926 --> 01:18:00.166
like some comic book magazine.

01:18:00.706 --> 01:18:04.346
That's their magazine that they always hand out. Okay. I don't know.

01:18:05.126 --> 01:18:08.666
I'm looking at them right now while you're talking about them,

01:18:08.686 --> 01:18:11.986
because honestly, I have never heard of these guys ever. Yeah.

01:18:13.181 --> 01:18:15.601
And there's something wrong with being a new con, right? We all have to start

01:18:15.601 --> 01:18:18.881
somewhere. Yeah, but the whole thing was ridiculous.

01:18:19.121 --> 01:18:22.981
And so what we ended up finding out, the word around the street was the reasoning

01:18:22.981 --> 01:18:28.381
why we were getting denied or Prescott denied, allegedly, is because it's a

01:18:28.381 --> 01:18:30.461
union thing. What does it mean?

01:18:31.341 --> 01:18:34.841
That's literally the only answer I've been told. A union thing?

01:18:35.481 --> 01:18:39.101
But it doesn't even make sense because, let's say, because there is technically

01:18:39.101 --> 01:18:40.781
a video game strike happening right now, right?

01:18:40.781 --> 01:18:44.021
But even still even if that's the case you could

01:18:44.021 --> 01:18:46.981
still do press there because you would cover the event do you

01:18:46.981 --> 01:18:50.441
know what i'm saying you wouldn't cover you wouldn't do interviews but you could cover the actual

01:18:50.441 --> 01:18:53.101
con you could talk about the experience of the con and then you could

01:18:53.101 --> 01:18:55.881
also even interview like small press right like you know like the

01:18:55.881 --> 01:18:58.841
small time artist sure yeah i mean

01:18:58.841 --> 01:19:02.501
there's still opportunity okay yeah i

01:19:02.501 --> 01:19:09.181
i don't know how that would if there's a video game strike well on video game

01:19:09.181 --> 01:19:16.281
developers well the voice actors they're on strike yes okay so remember how

01:19:16.281 --> 01:19:19.081
there was they were like that strike when we went to the san diego comic-con,

01:19:19.621 --> 01:19:28.001
yeah yeah same thing okay so you just don't talk to the video game people exactly that's it right.

01:19:29.081 --> 01:19:32.641
That has nothing to do with press being banned it means this is

01:19:32.641 --> 01:19:37.681
happening we're not talking to these people okay exactly that's it cool that's

01:19:37.681 --> 01:19:43.621
it yeah right like okay fine we can make something work right so insane but

01:19:43.621 --> 01:19:47.061
i just got to say this and i there's another story i want to share with you

01:19:47.061 --> 01:19:51.021
before we wrap up but the next but the next thing i want to say just huge thank you to ming,

01:19:51.501 --> 01:19:54.261
because really if it wasn't for his kindness and for him being a part

01:19:54.261 --> 01:19:56.981
of our our show and our alumni and him being

01:19:56.981 --> 01:19:59.761
so into what we do honestly i would

01:19:59.761 --> 01:20:02.581
have gotten nothing and because of the connections that we made through him

01:20:02.581 --> 01:20:06.061
we were able to get four phenomenal interviews uh one

01:20:06.061 --> 01:20:09.461
is from a a massive colombian pop star and

01:20:09.461 --> 01:20:13.121
in one of the biggest movies of current time and canto you know what i mean

01:20:13.121 --> 01:20:17.041
i never would have thought we would get her on so that's amazing right you know

01:20:17.041 --> 01:20:22.021
right and who i'm talking about is adasa who plays dolores in a canto and for

01:20:22.021 --> 01:20:26.641
those who don't know i mean she averages about 2.4 million plays monthly on

01:20:26.641 --> 01:20:28.781
uh spotify it's pretty crazy right, Mike?

01:20:29.601 --> 01:20:34.521
Yeah. That's a lot. That's a lot. Well, good. I mean, yeah. Shout out to me. I, you.

01:20:35.624 --> 01:20:39.144
I actually wasn't dealing with Puerto Rican babies in the forest.

01:20:39.264 --> 01:20:40.244
Is that what you said I was doing?

01:20:40.884 --> 01:20:45.584
The Amazon. Something. I was working an event. You know, I do have to work.

01:20:45.944 --> 01:20:49.364
I wish I was there to experience this calamity with you. But yeah,

01:20:49.664 --> 01:20:50.984
thanks. Thanks, Ming, for sure.

01:20:51.564 --> 01:20:56.044
Yeah, he really helped out for that. But there's one last story about all this weekend.

01:20:56.244 --> 01:21:00.244
Two stories, actually. The first one is, again, going back how shitty the con is.

01:21:01.064 --> 01:21:03.824
So there's nobody there. This whole weekend was empty, right?

01:21:03.924 --> 01:21:05.704
Like, there's barely anybody. But you've been to those cons,

01:21:05.744 --> 01:21:08.344
and there's like nobody there, right? I was going to ask what the attendance

01:21:08.344 --> 01:21:09.904
was like. Oh, it was horrible.

01:21:11.024 --> 01:21:16.924
It was horrible. And they had Ming in the very farthest corner imaginable in

01:21:16.924 --> 01:21:17.944
this convention center.

01:21:18.824 --> 01:21:22.564
I wonder why. Why would you do that to your guests? Exactly.

01:21:23.044 --> 01:21:26.944
Because they pay for the guests to come. So why would you do that to them?

01:21:27.084 --> 01:21:29.444
Well, you would think so. Oh.

01:21:30.704 --> 01:21:34.224
So something happened during the event that kind of gave us some light.

01:21:34.584 --> 01:21:38.684
So, you know, Ming's not really making any money, right? And he knows that they're

01:21:38.684 --> 01:21:41.604
supposed to pay him or something, but he didn't really know what was going to happen.

01:21:42.284 --> 01:21:45.044
And so he's kind of doing his thing. He's like, well, fuck it.

01:21:45.104 --> 01:21:46.784
I'm not really making any money, so let's have some good times,

01:21:46.824 --> 01:21:49.884
right? So he left. He would leave, talk to people, and schmooze.

01:21:50.204 --> 01:21:54.664
Be Ming Chen, right? We all know Ming Chen's the smoozer, which is awesome.

01:21:56.844 --> 01:22:00.604
So he comes back, and I see him later, and I'm hanging out with him,

01:22:00.604 --> 01:22:05.964
And he goes, the owner, Galaxy, reached out to somebody that's representing

01:22:05.964 --> 01:22:11.544
him saying, hey, can you please tell Ming to go back to his table because people are asking for him?

01:22:11.764 --> 01:22:16.384
And Ming goes, who the fuck is asking for me? There's nobody here.

01:22:18.824 --> 01:22:22.864
Yeah, right. There's nobody asking. He goes, you know why they're doing that

01:22:22.864 --> 01:22:25.464
is because he's going to use that against me to not pay me.

01:22:26.364 --> 01:22:30.384
Ah, right. You weren't at your table. People were there asking for you.

01:22:30.604 --> 01:22:34.744
Exactly well yeah because i'm sure there's a guarantee right like you get a

01:22:34.744 --> 01:22:39.964
guest either you pay them to show up or you give them a guarantee yeah.

01:22:40.891 --> 01:22:45.591
Or you at least just pay for their, their way, you know, which I know that part

01:22:45.591 --> 01:22:47.391
was, that was paid for. That's why he came.

01:22:48.071 --> 01:22:53.011
But, uh, you know, I think, I think it kind of sounded like the money was going

01:22:53.011 --> 01:22:54.231
to come from the attendance, right?

01:22:54.491 --> 01:22:57.331
But there was no real attendance. So where would that money come from? Right.

01:22:57.931 --> 01:23:02.211
Well, yeah. Right. I mean, the, the vendors, you know, the exhibitors that pay

01:23:02.211 --> 01:23:04.291
to be there, there's, I'm sure there's an artist alley,

01:23:04.471 --> 01:23:07.111
they pay to be there, you know, and so that a lot

01:23:07.111 --> 01:23:09.811
of that just goes straight to paying for the venue which i know that

01:23:09.811 --> 01:23:12.571
the convention center in san jose isn't a cheap

01:23:12.571 --> 01:23:15.531
venue you know i know you do like

01:23:15.531 --> 01:23:18.231
even if you are an exhibitor there you have to

01:23:18.231 --> 01:23:21.431
use i think we talked about this in the past you

01:23:21.431 --> 01:23:24.071
have to use the union to load in your

01:23:24.071 --> 01:23:26.851
stuff yeah and you have to pay them and you don't find

01:23:26.851 --> 01:23:29.771
that out till you get there yeah yeah and

01:23:29.771 --> 01:23:32.791
so if there's no tickets though yeah there's there's

01:23:32.791 --> 01:23:35.471
no money yeah and and that was

01:23:35.471 --> 01:23:38.831
the thing like you could see it on the exhibitors

01:23:38.831 --> 01:23:41.671
you can see it in this dude i felt so bad there was one woman

01:23:41.671 --> 01:23:45.031
there who was in the what'd you call it artist alley she came

01:23:45.031 --> 01:23:51.471
all the way from vancouver dude on her own dime and i can imagine she didn't

01:23:51.471 --> 01:23:55.831
do that well i mean the whole thing was just a mess man and you know i've been

01:23:55.831 --> 01:23:58.391
asked multiple times about other talent like if i was going to talk about it

01:23:58.391 --> 01:24:03.191
on air and i was like you know i really think i have to because we promote a lot of cons.

01:24:03.271 --> 01:24:06.431
We go to a lot of cons. That's kind of our niche, I feel, nowadays.

01:24:09.429 --> 01:24:11.769
You know, we also come from a world of going to cons, right?

01:24:11.849 --> 01:24:14.789
Like you went as a fan and then now you do it as professional and I,

01:24:14.809 --> 01:24:16.349
you know, I kind of do it semi-professionally.

01:24:16.629 --> 01:24:20.869
So it's like, I would hate to do, go to a con and just feel like I got,

01:24:21.109 --> 01:24:22.029
didn't get my money's worth.

01:24:22.229 --> 01:24:25.469
You know what I mean? I'm like, I didn't get to enjoy, enjoy really anything.

01:24:25.509 --> 01:24:29.749
I mean, the panels were cool, I guess, but you know, they were all in the same room.

01:24:29.949 --> 01:24:34.509
The panels were hosted in the, in the convention center, the small convention center part too,

01:24:34.889 --> 01:24:38.109
you know, you know, it's like, and some

01:24:38.109 --> 01:24:41.349
people didn't even make a single dollar like i had heard multiple vendors

01:24:41.349 --> 01:24:45.929
say they didn't make a single dollar so was

01:24:45.929 --> 01:24:51.489
were you saying like say on like peak midday saturday was there just like no

01:24:51.489 --> 01:24:54.769
one in the aisles was it just like could you like lay down on the floor in the

01:24:54.769 --> 01:24:58.809
aisles it was that empty i mean you could definitely yeah i wouldn't say it

01:24:58.809 --> 01:25:02.489
was like like no one like literally zero but i would say you could definitely

01:25:02.489 --> 01:25:04.109
snuggle on the ground and no one's any care,

01:25:04.789 --> 01:25:09.909
yeah yeah well you know that's again like again i i've never even heard this

01:25:09.909 --> 01:25:13.389
convention was existing i mean you probably wouldn't have unless you lived right

01:25:13.389 --> 01:25:18.469
near there like you do you know and i think a lot a lot of things now people

01:25:18.469 --> 01:25:21.389
just assume they put on an event they put it on instagram.

01:25:22.129 --> 01:25:24.909
And i don't know maybe they paid for some advertising in the city

01:25:24.909 --> 01:25:27.829
of san jose and that people are just going to come and people

01:25:27.829 --> 01:25:30.549
are just going to show up but that's not the case you know

01:25:30.549 --> 01:25:33.389
it's just not anymore and it

01:25:33.389 --> 01:25:36.069
sucks because it's like there's so much great great cons out

01:25:36.069 --> 01:25:38.869
here i mean and you know your man steve white puts out some

01:25:38.869 --> 01:25:41.629
puts in my opinion puts out put out a 10 times better

01:25:41.629 --> 01:25:44.629
con than fandom con did and they had endless money

01:25:44.629 --> 01:25:50.609
technically right yeah well it just goes to show like you know money just because

01:25:50.609 --> 01:25:55.449
you have money doesn't mean you know how to put something together and you know

01:25:55.449 --> 01:26:00.209
obviously steve white he's he did big wow he was a super con he's But then multiple

01:26:00.209 --> 01:26:01.649
cons, Bakersfield Comic Con,

01:26:01.769 --> 01:26:04.249
which will be at soon, you know, he knows the industry.

01:26:05.350 --> 01:26:07.670
Inside and out, you know, and some of these people, they, they just,

01:26:08.410 --> 01:26:10.910
like, like you said, they have some money they want to put on a show,

01:26:10.910 --> 01:26:14.350
but they don't really know like how to do a show.

01:26:14.690 --> 01:26:17.830
And they probably won't be back. I'm imagining.

01:26:18.510 --> 01:26:22.450
I don't think so, man. I definitely don't think so. But the good thing is this,

01:26:22.690 --> 01:26:28.090
what you guys just heard is the only interviews ever taken at this convention.

01:26:30.370 --> 01:26:38.250
Yeah, well, you ban press, and one of two of the press get in, this is what you got.

01:26:39.990 --> 01:26:44.510
You're doing them a favor, right? I'm doing the talent with them.

01:26:45.090 --> 01:26:48.450
Right, that's what I mean. Yes, them. Yeah.

01:26:49.270 --> 01:26:54.290
And we're doing the fans a favor by telling them if this con ever does come

01:26:54.290 --> 01:26:55.850
back to not waste your time.

01:26:56.290 --> 01:27:01.650
Yeah yeah or at least think about it but yeah so i did have another story but

01:27:01.650 --> 01:27:05.550
you know what i'll save that one for a different time i'll save it for a one true three.

01:27:06.670 --> 01:27:09.370
There you go cool because it involves a night out let me tell

01:27:09.370 --> 01:27:12.110
you but you know in the end i just gotta tell you thank you to all the guests that

01:27:12.110 --> 01:27:15.430
we've interviewed and who came who were so welcoming and so

01:27:15.430 --> 01:27:18.290
just they were just awesome man big thanks for the tarot

01:27:18.290 --> 01:27:20.970
reading to realizing that mike is sexier but let's be honest we

01:27:20.970 --> 01:27:24.070
didn't even need a tarot reading for that no it's

01:27:24.070 --> 01:27:27.630
just good this is good for entertainment right because we

01:27:27.630 --> 01:27:30.710
all know we don't i mean i don't do

01:27:30.710 --> 01:27:34.750
we know i don't know do we know but i

01:27:34.750 --> 01:27:37.890
guess let's go through before we wrap up let's go through some announcements because this

01:27:37.890 --> 01:27:40.910
comes out not monday uh we will be at

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designer con november 14th through

01:27:44.530 --> 01:27:49.630
the 17th right 16th 16th

01:27:49.630 --> 01:27:52.510
no right no it's the

01:27:52.510 --> 01:27:56.570
it's the because there's the preview night oh the preview night right okay you're

01:27:56.570 --> 01:28:02.110
right so the 14th through the 17th we will be there please come say hi we don't

01:28:02.110 --> 01:28:05.930
have a booth we're just there as press we got some fun stickers mike you want

01:28:05.930 --> 01:28:11.210
to tell about the fun stickers you made yeah so you know it's in vegas and we like to do a little,

01:28:11.850 --> 01:28:14.850
twist on wherever we're traveling to with our logo.

01:28:15.130 --> 01:28:19.930
And so I did a little twist on the welcome to fabulous Las Vegas,

01:28:20.090 --> 01:28:23.410
except it says, listen to the fabulous Uncle Dad Talks podcast.

01:28:25.609 --> 01:28:28.709
Which we're rebranding. We're going to rebrand with a different name soon,

01:28:28.829 --> 01:28:31.769
correct? Yeah, we're going to be the Uncle Dad Talks show.

01:28:32.409 --> 01:28:37.169
The show, wow. Yeah, what do you guys think of that? I love it, dude.

01:28:37.889 --> 01:28:40.589
What that means is you guys are going to see some new content from us.

01:28:41.069 --> 01:28:43.789
I've been playing with some new changes. You can't see it right now,

01:28:43.889 --> 01:28:47.569
but we've got a whole new lighting system on mine. Mike will get that soon at some point.

01:28:47.929 --> 01:28:51.569
We are going to be doing more video-focused things, and we're going to have

01:28:51.569 --> 01:28:53.209
unique looks. That's right.

01:28:53.589 --> 01:28:56.209
We're going to have specific looks. Mike's going to be very shiny,

01:28:56.209 --> 01:28:58.989
and I'm going to be very cowboy. And we'll see how that goes.

01:28:59.589 --> 01:29:00.669
Yeah, we'll see how that goes.

01:29:02.289 --> 01:29:05.829
We'll see how it goes. I'll give it a shot. I'm doing it for you.

01:29:06.249 --> 01:29:09.409
I trust your vision. I hope so. I hope so.

01:29:12.689 --> 01:29:15.649
We got to the Design Con. And is there any other announcements you want to give?

01:29:16.149 --> 01:29:19.129
Yeah. And then, like I mentioned earlier, we'll be at Bakersfield Comic Con

01:29:19.129 --> 01:29:23.509
the following weekend, Sunday 23rd and 24th of November in beautiful,

01:29:23.809 --> 01:29:26.129
sunny Bakersfield, California.

01:29:27.209 --> 01:29:28.149
Yeah, so beautiful.

01:29:29.909 --> 01:29:35.849
Yes, yes, yes. And Uncle Dad will be at Fan Expo SF at the Thanksgiving weekend.

01:29:35.909 --> 01:29:37.289
That's right. I will be there.

01:29:37.549 --> 01:29:41.729
And I might even be doing a live show. So once I get that confirmed,

01:29:41.829 --> 01:29:43.729
I'll let you know in the live episode, the next episode.

01:29:44.289 --> 01:29:49.449
Tasty. A little prize wheel show. We'll see. but and i want to do a shout out

01:29:49.449 --> 01:29:52.569
really quickly mike if we can i would like you to do it can you please do us

01:29:52.569 --> 01:29:57.289
a big solid and shout out our good friend the bracket monster released a new book,

01:29:57.829 --> 01:30:03.949
yeah that's right today is finally out brandon bracamonte aka the bracket monster

01:30:03.949 --> 01:30:10.949
on instagram he was on our our episode 149 of with our fun game yeah he just

01:30:10.949 --> 01:30:12.989
released his comic uh fear city,

01:30:13.549 --> 01:30:18.349
hit them up on Instagram if you're interested in purchasing one and we'll also

01:30:18.349 --> 01:30:21.029
have those for sale at Bakersfield Comic Con,

01:30:21.509 --> 01:30:24.729
that's amazing, yes please go support them because everybody here is part of

01:30:24.729 --> 01:30:28.209
our family they're part of your family so please support them and last thing

01:30:28.209 --> 01:30:32.909
about support, thank you to everybody who donated for the Asheville support

01:30:32.909 --> 01:30:36.289
during our Halloween special, huge thank you to everybody who donated,

01:30:36.689 --> 01:30:40.809
seriously I can't tell you that enough, you're going to see later on today or

01:30:40.809 --> 01:30:44.649
when this comes out There'll be a post already out of thanking everybody who

01:30:44.649 --> 01:30:46.789
was involved. So thank you for listening.

01:30:47.049 --> 01:30:49.569
Thank you for being a part of it. And thanks to all of our guests.

01:30:49.649 --> 01:30:51.629
And of course, thank you to Mike for being so cool.

01:30:52.489 --> 01:30:54.789
Yeah, so cool and so sexy.

01:30:57.249 --> 01:30:59.849
And I honestly can't think of a better way to cut you out to get out.

01:31:00.069 --> 01:31:04.349
So Mike, any last words? I think that was it, right?

01:31:06.029 --> 01:31:09.189
I mean, that's the way out. You just said it. You're right, you're right.

01:31:09.249 --> 01:31:10.929
I know, but I'm just having it. All right.

01:31:12.289 --> 01:31:15.829
We're not uncles we're not dads but we're just someone you can talk to we'll

01:31:15.829 --> 01:31:18.309
see you all next week Cincinnati baby.