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Episode 150: Live at "FandomCon"(Talk w/ Ming Chen, Adassa, and more!)

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UncleDad Talks

Hey there, friends! Uncle Dad here, bringing you the wildest ride I've had in a while at the infamous Fandong Kong—or should I say Fandong Con? Yes, I did that on purpose, but more on that later. This episode is jam-packed with stories, laughter, and maybe a bit of frustration as we dive into the chaotic world of one of the most interesting cons ever.

First up, we're catching up with our good friend and OG guest, the legendary Ming Chen. We talk about how life is short, and there's no time to waste when you're at a con, even if it's as unpredictable as this one. Ming shares his philosophy of living life all in, inspired by his younger years when he had no money or car, dreaming of adventures beyond his computer screen.

We also explore San Jose's hidden gems, as Ming spills the beans on his favorite spots that don't get enough love. From dive bars to karaoke nights, we uncover the local haunts that make this city unique. And yes, we even brave the places the locals warn us about—because that's where the real fun begins!

But the real highlight? Ming's karaoke adventures with none other than Patrick Warburton, singing Pearl Jam into the night. Plus, we dive into the world of Malört, the infamous Chicago liquor that turns a night out into a shared challenge of taste buds.

Of course, it wouldn't be a true Uncle Dad adventure without a few hiccups. From press badge mishaps to the mysterious disappearance of con organizers, we faced it all. But thanks to Ming's connections and our determination, we turned chaos into an unforgettable experience.

So grab a drink, settle in, and join us for a candid chat about the highs, lows, and everything in between at Fandong Kong. Whether you're a con veteran or a curious newbie, you're in for a treat. Let's dive into the madness together!

Chapters

00:10 - Welcome to Fandong Kong

02:21 - Exploring San Jose’s Hidden Gems

05:41 - Night Out Adventures

05:58 - Dive Bar Experiences

10:50 - Discovering Local Cuisine

13:04 - San Jose’s Bar Scene

15:57 - Meet the Audio Engineer

17:44 - Behind the Scenes of Game Sound

22:54 - The Silent Heroes of Gaming

24:44 - Upcoming Projects and Games

28:17 - Connecting with the Audience

30:09 - Meet the Voice Actor

32:27 - Journey into Voice Acting

37:12 - Dinosaur Passion Unleashed

41:33 - Social Media and Interaction

41:56 - Highlights of the Convention

01:06:48 - Fandom Con Chaos

01:16:30 - Press Ban at Conventions

01:24:29 - Reflections on Con Experiences

01:29:06 - Upcoming Events and Announcements

Transcript
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Hey everybody, Uncle Dad here, officially live at one of the most interesting

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cons I've ever been in my life, that is Fandong Kong, that's right,

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I said that on purpose, I'll explain that later.

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I am with one of our dear friends, one of our OG guests, the one and only,

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the man, the myth, the legend, Ming Zhen.

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What's up everybody, welcome to Fandong Kong, welcome to Uncle Dad Talks everybody,

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anytime you're interviewing me, it means that things are going good.

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I agree with that, and I also feel like fun is awry, it's close to us.

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I mean, listen, life is short, right? So, and I don't, I see what once a year, if that.

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So, you know, if we get together for even one night, we got to go have fun. We have no time to waste.

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No time for rest. No time for rest for the wicked, right? Like you just got

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to be all in and that's it.

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And I love that you live life very all in. What is the key to that?

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I think I, you know, just aging experience, I guess.

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Actually, you know what? A lot of it comes from when I was younger,

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no money, no car, no game.

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So i i would sit at home behind

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my computer watching star wars but i

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you know these movies you watch like you know i felt like luke skywalker

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i felt there was other things out there and i hated being

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trapped at home and even if i did leave

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the house you know maybe we're on a family vacation you you

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know you're young you have no money so you can't go up by yourself and do what

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you really want to do like even if your parents take you to

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disneyland you can't ride the rides you want to ride because

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you know you got to stay with the family and or you know maybe your mom

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gets motion sickness you can't go on one ride so it's always

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that long it's like oh one day man i get to do whatever i want to do and

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and i guess that's how that's what i'm doing now is you

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know you know you get a job you get a salary you get some free time you go

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off and do whatever you want to do but my experiences compound

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even more that i get to i can get into cons around

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the world so they they fly me out man they put me in a hotel

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and you know you do the con but

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afterwards time is yours so and and there's no

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time to waste so if you're in a cool city

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like san jose or you're in the bay area you gotta

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find all the cool stuff in the span of like three

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days maybe sometimes four that's not a lot of time it's not a lot of time but

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you know we do a lot of cons too and so like when we're out there we always

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want to do all this stuff but you never can hit it you never can hit all this

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stuff but i'm curious because you hit some san jose spots that i don't think

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get enough love so let's let's Let's tell the audience where you've been in San Jose.

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Okay. Well, you insisted that we go to a really great dive bar called Trials Pub.

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That was your home when you lived by, I guess, still your home, right?

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And that, you know, I hear that. I need to go. I really, I mean,

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wherever I visit is based on, really based on where, I want to go where all the locals go.

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You know, I want to go where they live.

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Hang out where they tell their stories, where they make their stories,

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where, you know, maybe they've been there for five years or sometimes 50 years.

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I want to go meet those people, hang out with those people, find those people who work there.

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And they're also a good resource too, because you're sitting there,

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you're a couple of drinks in and you ask the bartenders, like,

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hey man, where should I go next?

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Where do you eat when you get off your shift here? Like, where's the late night

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food? Where do you like to drink when you're not, when you're off day?

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And they'll gladly tell you, and then you go and it's always awesome. Yeah, I love that.

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And what's funny about this particular situation, everybody told you not to

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go to this bar we went to, including the bar staff.

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And that was the legendary, it is a legendary spot, the legendary Alex's 49er

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here in San Jose. Yeah, great place.

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We heard they had karaoke there every night from 8 p.m. to 2 a.m.,

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which is very rare, even in my travels.

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Maybe I have one or two places like this karaoke on Wednesdays,

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sometimes maybe Wednesdays and Fridays, but very rarely every day.

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And that's a good thing, because usually when we do these inevitably

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maybe later on it's like oh hey man where's the karaoke

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around here and you know sometimes the celebrities they

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love singing in particular i was at a con i was

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hanging out with patrick warburton who you might know as the tick it's

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putty from seinfeld as the guy from ember's new

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groove i mean he's been in a million things but those are

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the bigger bigger ones and we're hanging out at

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a rooftop he turns me he's like hey ming where's karaoke around

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here i'm like i will find it and we we found

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it we found this place and he loves Pearl Jam so we.

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Went up there he sang Pearl Jam all night and yeah

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but you know any place that has karaoke seven days a week we need to visit

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we heard it was a dive bar and all these

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came true however all the locals was like

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oh man you don't want to go there man that places that place is either you're

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either they they I don't know sometimes they say it sucks sometimes they say it's

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dangerous or they'll just fly oh we don't go there whenever

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I hear that it's always raises a flag which means

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go there because almost 100 it's a great

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place so yeah almost 100 so i

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love that you and i sometimes i'm like are they

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screwing with me like are they telling me not to go so

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we don't crowd it or maybe it's their place like sometimes

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i think they're screwing with me but yeah alex is 49ers solid

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place and we gotta give a shout out to treskies too for our teskies teskies

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we went there had some was a jaeger tea or what your tea yeah so if you're ever

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on san is a go to Teske's you got to ask for the Jaeger tea now it's not made

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with Jaeger Meister it's a it's

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his own drink that's called Yaga tea and but we all call it Jaeger tea,

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Okay, because I posted it, and people are like, why are you drinking a Jaeger

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at a German place? Were they out of schnapps? And I was like,

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all right, listen, it was good. I don't know what was in it.

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It was good. And a big shout out to Danny and her Black Forest cake,

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handmade, really good. Yeah, we were literally tipsing eating cake.

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That's where you know you're having a good friend. Oh, for sure.

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You're drunk, and you're eating a big piece of chocolate cake.

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It was so good. It was so good. And you can get that cake anytime you're in

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town. Yeah, I hit the spot for sure.

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So, yeah, that was night one. that was night

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one so again you know usually when i'm out try to

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like if we had three bars in one night it's pretty good sometimes you

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get one bar and you're like i'm feeling it i feel at home i'm gonna

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stay here but yeah i like to explore just see all

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the other ones so if we get three is very good four is good.

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We've done up to five or six though sure now it's

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sunday today and when this comes obviously time won't matter but let

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me ask you this are we gonna hit maybe one more

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bar before you leave i like do one more yeah one i

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want to take it to you called the doghouse okay you sent me

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a link to it it probably lives up to its name i

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love it yeah it's definitely your vibe i

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was thinking about in my head all night last night and i was like what are some spots that

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he would dig i was like that's the one that is

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the one there's no i think there's like two tvs it's all

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old it's it's no barely no parking but

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you know it's right next to the holiday inn like

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i cannot and it's open at 10 a.m every day that's awesome

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i saw this thing i almost bought it it was one of those like facebook ads it

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was like dive bar bingo like you know how you can tell a

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dive bar so usually like if it has the word yacht in it or

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yacht club it's a diet as a good dive bar there there's less

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than one window is a good dive bar they lost smoking

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in there it's a good dive bar you know there are all these

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like kind of like dive bar flat like flags on it

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and i almost i should i almost bought it it was pretty funny so and

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yeah that i mean they're true to life yeah i'm gonna look that up because i'm

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gonna need that for when i would do new orleans because i think we should find the

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dive bars in new orleans yeah there's some good ones there are ones

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i haven't even been to there was at locals like how have you not been there

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and i'm like i you know i was too busy at cafe

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du monde i was over at the dungeon i was over at the dungeon the sazerak bar.

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I was over at you know lafitte's not i left lafitte's is the oldest bar in america

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supposedly good place or you know the old absinthe house uh you know so many

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great places in new orleans but um yes i i uh it was But I have family out here,

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so I mean, they're more in Milpitas, like a little bit northeast of here.

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So I never really hung out downtown, so it's fun finding all the good gems here.

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I found the St. Pedro Square Market. That was cool.

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But yeah, last night was cool. So we started there, ended up over at Cash Only,

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which is a Johnny Cash-themed dive bar.

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Which was amazing. I think that's my place. Anytime I visit,

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we're going to go there for a couple of reasons.

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One, they have almost every cheap beer in America there, which is one of my

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goals is to drink every cheap beer in America.

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They had Stroh's and Hams, Merlin High Life, Montaki, all that stuff.

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But it was fun. I went up to the bartender. I was like, hey man i there's

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probably no shot you have a bottle of malort here do you and he looked at me like

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go ask the other bartender the other end his name is jay address him by name

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and ask him and you know it's kind of a setup right and i go up i'm like hey

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uh is your name jay's like yeah i was like i heard you're the man to ask to

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see if there's a bottle of malort here and he smiles at me and he goes to the

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back he moves over a couple bags of chips so they had one stashed.

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Back there for anybody who asks and i was

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like all right i have a bunch of californians here have never had it you

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know malort the worst tasting thing ever invented the chicago

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liquor for two-fisted hearty drinkers and

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i yeah i got six shots for everybody and you

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know they hated me for a little bit and so you wait you've never

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had it so what was your well how was your first shot

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of malort i gotta be honest with you you guys were

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all saying oh you know i've always heard the tails right always heard the tails

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but i love i sound horrible but i

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love like that weird shitty bitter taste i guess you

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would call it because like i drink underbergs every day that's

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not a lie i drink that literally every day and so i

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was like you know whatever the underberg is not the best i know that and

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so when you gave me the shot and i tried it i gotta be honest with you man i

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liked it like i liked the way it tasted you're one of the rare you're a rare

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breed i mean i do have maybe a handful of friends that actually do like it i

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i met one girl who's she sips it like like it's a cocktail that's i don't know

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if i would do that because that seems like it might be a little

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i don't know that's a lot that's a lot but i have a

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couple of friends that either for whatever reason their palates are kind

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of geared toward yeah that's not my still i hate

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it and people why do you keep drinking it is because i like introducing other

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people to it and like i'm not gonna be a jerk and not do it with them so what's

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it's a great you know what's funny is like i've never really thought about that

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so hanging out with you it's like that's such a great like party starter like

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oh have you guys ever had this shitty alcohol we got to do it right it makes people just go, what.

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Why would we do it? And you make them do it and then you all laugh about it. Yeah.

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And like, I, I, I don't hide it. I don't trick people. I'm like,

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this is really bad is that in fact, it's the worst thing I've ever put in my mouth.

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So it just adds up. And they want to do it even more. It's like a challenge, right?

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But the first time I had it, I was at Dive Bar in Chicago. I was with a bunch

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of people from a con. So we're all from out of town.

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And the old bar fly was in there. It was like, oh, you're from out of town? Let me buy you all shots.

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It was all malort. He did it all just so you could see 10 people's reactions

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all at once, like cringing all at once, which for him was well worth it. And he's laughing at us.

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And at the time, I was like, I swear I would never drink it again.

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It was that bad. But famous last words. Never say never. Never say never.

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Was malort worse than jaeger tea oh by

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far yeah oh god jaeger tea was like southern sweet

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tea compared to that yeah i was like oh how is this compared

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to like jaeger for net for net's the big

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one they're like how's it compared to forget i'm like man i was

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drinking for net all day next to malort man like for net tastes like like the

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best champagne next to malort yeah absolutely so you know you've been here for

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a little bit you know i wish i could have showed you more and maybe next time

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one day we'll get you out here again and I would love to do there's so much

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that San Jose can offer man there's so many great bars,

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restaurants I mean you talk about the high life Henry's high life is like a

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San Jose staple like it's one of the best steak houses and it's like old timey

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and it's in Little Italy you know like a lot of people don't even know San Jose

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has a Little Italy and I just think I'm so happy that you got to explore my little piece of home.

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My new home because you know I'm originally from Stockton and so

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this is my current home and not that many people going to talk about how great

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this place the place is i feel yeah yeah

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it's really awesome i love northern california i have

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roots here my family's here my uncle came out hung out

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me at the con yesterday took me out to dinner which was cool so went to a place

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called china chen i was like i love china chen do you really yeah i love china

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chen he just picked it because of the name i'm like because i was like he's

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like i want to take you at dinner i'm like all right take me to your favorite

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spot and he just kind of picked one at random like this is your favorite he's like i I just look cool,

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but it's a old school, like old school, very hole in the wall, Asian,

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like egg noodle house. It's like, it's basically Chinese pho.

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Like you know they don't use they do have a rice noodle dishes but they

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focus on egg noodles uh their broth is different like they

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don't boil it shin bones for like a million hours it's just

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their own chinese probably like sliced chasar pork and

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then you get i i got my shrimp dumplings and like all

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you all in it was like like 10 bucks or whatever so

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cheap yeah now did you but did you like it i loved

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it yeah i would totally go back especially i wanted something quick and like

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you know something that fills my soul for a little bit and you know

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perfect for before a night of drinking for sure yeah yeah

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man i love that you went there it's amazing yeah that's actually one

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of my so when i first moved here i used to live by campus and

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it's right by san jose state so i would go there like every wednesday

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and man it was you can get a nice fucking bowl.

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Of soup for like less than like you said at

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the time like less than 10 bucks for yeah it was amazing i'm so glad

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you went there dude it's awesome i love that now you didn't

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go everywhere here but is there anywhere specifically you wish

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you could have went to like i made a map um here let

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me see what i have on here you can tell me if they're good or not because i

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usually before i go on i just go on google maps i start saving i

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just start bookmarking places so let's see

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caravan lounge looked awesome that's a great place i went

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to cashew paper plane i've been to before very good like.

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Probably one of the best cocktail bars in san jose

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uh like haberdasher's like the one legit speakeasy.

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Drinks are pretty good like maybe not like not as.

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Good as paper plane perhaps what else do

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i have here i don't know why i have the san

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jose flea market mapped but yeah i don't

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know why i have a place called falafel's drive-in bookmark i have no place is

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amazing it's like that was on diners drivers and dives like

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it's a huge it's known for one thing though it's banana

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shake oh dude all right i'm into that dude

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yeah but that was amongst yeah but you know i had you

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know cash rolling we hit bears dive bar we

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hit uh i had you know i had the high life bookmark but yeah

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i wish we i wish i could take you to still og man i

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think you would like that place and uh the vinyl bar and then i

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heard this way fuck him long is awesome i heard oh yeah

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that's what uh and then i i saw man in ale milpitas

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there's a 24 hour indian food restaurant there's full

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places that are open till three in the morning there's yeah there's type places

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like i love late night asian it's the best

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man yeah and people sleep on that out here because they always want to go tacos or

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whatever and that's fine right but like sometimes pho

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at 2 a.m after a long night of drinking it hits the spot

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better than you can imagine yeah it's it yeah i only

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wish we could find one last night yeah yeah last night

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i got kind of crazy so i i got back it was two i was kind of hungry and i was

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like do i be a fat ass and doordash taco bell and i heard their their old school

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menus out now like the mexime and so i'm like screw it and i did and uh and

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it says gonna take about 25 minutes to arrive so i was like oh i'll just chill

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for a bit i end up i I fell asleep,

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but I woke up an hour after it got delivered and it was sitting for me down at the lobby.

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So, and, uh, but it would have hit the spot better if I got it hot.

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But you know, at that time, at that point, you don't care. But I'm here to tell

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you the Mexi melt is back and I hope it never leaves.

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You know what? I can't think of a better way to close up on this.

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The mixing house is back, and Ming Shen Hosen never leaves.

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Ming, it's always a great time hanging out with you, really.

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You're the best, man. Thank you so much for taking me to your spots, for hanging out with me.

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And, you know, I think we did pretty good for two and a half days.

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And I think I'll be back for sure.

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So we'll go ahead. The rest of San Jose, roll up Milpitas. We'll hit Redwood City, Daly City.

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You know, go up to San Francisco. And then I'll be at Stockton sometime soon.

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Yeah, Mike Millerick and Stockton Con. always has a special place in my heart

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you know mr d's pub and pizza without the pizza.

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I know that's what i'm saying anyway we'll talk about that a different day we'll save

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that for when you're in stockton because that's my actual hometown and that

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i want to i need to take you to the winchester bar but

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it's called winnie's now and i have a fun story about that bar real fast we

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went to that that's a fucking dive son and when we went there

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there was one time we were there and i'll just give you a little taste

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of the story we're all sitting there and all of a sudden

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you hear this loud crash because a car literally slammed

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into the front entrance of the door of the bar and the

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guy got out of the car and said hey can i get a whatever beer

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he wanted that is a dive oh it's

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awesome that's awesome i don't want to be that guy but i

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but i understand yes but i understand i would take you there ming

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thank you so much can you just tell our audience where they can follow you on instagram

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oh yeah uh instagram twitter facebook mingchen 37

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m-i-n-g-c-h-e-n 37 if

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you want to pick the diet bars food and comic cons

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follow along everybody yes please do all right

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everybody we'll be right back after this break boom what's up everybody this

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is aj kirsch uh live event host mc presenter announcer i don't know i do a bunch

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of stuff wedding officiant personal trainer who knows ajkirsch.com if you want

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to learn more about me but you are in for a treat because you're listening to uncle dad talk.

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All right, everybody. Uncle Dad is back here hanging out with a very cool, very cool person.

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So cool that he has to say his name because I don't want to ruin it.

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So let's give it up for... Hey, guys. I'm Eddie Correa.

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I am an audio engineer and I work on a bunch of anime and video games,

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stuff like that. And that's it. Goodbye. No, I'm kidding. I'm kidding. I'm kidding.

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Yeah, Eddie, I had to have you do that because in the history of my show,

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I have the worst time pronouncing last names.

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Specifically if there's any accent or anything like it doesn't even matter the

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accent i am terrible at it so thank you for saving my life there i appreciate

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that eddie so what is it what would you how would you like describe what you

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do i know like on the base level it's like audio.

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Engineering but i feel like it's much deeper than that and we don't ever get

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the opportunity to talk to somebody in your field so what would you

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describe like what you do exactly really you

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know we always joke about how it's like i'm the guy who handles all

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the tech work and hits all the buttons and stuff like

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that but really it's kind of

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just babysitting um and the

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most insane thing about it is that it's like it's

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kind of you know like anyone can come in and hit buttons it's

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like you know people will always like djs are always like

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the first example where it's like well anyone can go up and you know

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hit play it's kind of the same thing with engineering anyone can

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go up and hit play anyone can go up and hit hit the record

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button but the people that can excel

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the engineers that can excel is the ones

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that know how to handle every individual person in

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the room it's the ones who can get the director and the

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actor to mesh well make sure the clients are taken care

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of all of that stuff all while handling all

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of the tech stuff on top of that so that's

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really it really just becomes like a babysitting job at its core just with a

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lot of buttons involved do you i mean but it's got to feel pretty great still

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knowing you were a part of like that bigger project right like you know you

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uh you worked on one of my favorite games and that's uh well i always i always

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want to say riverside girls i know that's right it's rivers.

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But it's river city girls and it's one of the one of the

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best one of the best like side scrollers i've ever played and i when you told

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me you did the sound on that my mind literally was blown because it's so perfect

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man yeah it's it's it's kind of nuts it's like because i i didn't do the My

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friend Jeff actually did the first game, which was really kind of funny.

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So when I got handed the second, it was like this weird little thing where we're like, oh, okay, cool.

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We both, but it's, it was really weird working on River City because the director,

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Christina and V and I have worked together for years and years at this point.

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And she was the director on it. And working on the project was super weird because

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like, you know, I'm like, we're working on it and partway through,

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The client, we're like introducing a new character or something or we're recording

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something and the client's like, yeah, so this is actually one of the Double Dragon characters.

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And it kind of clicked in my head that it's it is Double Dragon.

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It's just it is literally just the Double Dragon universe, but from like a different angle.

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So it was always it just kind of blew my mind to be like, oh,

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I worked on Double Dragon. Oh, it's so much cooler now.

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So we're working on this stuff is always like really

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weird because we never really you know in the moment we

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don't understand how impactful it can

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be stuff like that you know every once

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in a while we get something and it's like oh my gosh this is going to be

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like amazing this is going to be so great when i

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worked on the devil may cry series i was already a

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huge fan by the time i had gotten in that seat so when

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i worked on that it was it was

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like you know mind-blowing it was dream come true really you

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tell the audience which ones you worked on oh so i worked on the special

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edition for dmc4 and then i

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worked on dmc5 yeah and working on

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those was just like you know dream come true because i was i've been

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a fan of the game the series since the first game came

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out in like early 2000s that game was

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the game changer i mean it changed the way you could play action horror right

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yeah yeah absolutely and and just working with like

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the capcom clients were always really cool and through

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that i worked with on a bunch of other things for

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those guys but yeah so it's like you

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know you never really sometimes you go in and you're like oh this is going to

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be so amazing i can't wait for when it comes out but every once in a while you

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get something like you know like like fire emblem three houses was like one

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of those were i i knew about fire emblem You know, I played Fire Emblem. I knew about it.

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But, you know, in Nintendo's eyes, they were like, hey, this is if this doesn't

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like do good, it's just we're going to be done. We're not going to do any Fire Emblem anymore.

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And it was such a huge project. It was like a nine-month project or something, that one.

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And going through the whole thing, we're like, man, this is so massive on our

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end. We really, really hope it does good.

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And when it came out, it exceeded every single.

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We were all completely dumbstruck with how well it was received and how well it did financially.

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And you know so much so that like fire emblem

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was like cool we're gonna keep we're gonna keep doing more

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every year now and so now there's been like another three or four fire emblems

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that have come out since then but that three houses games is perfection absolutely

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perfection so good it's so good and i know i know i'm biased as all hell but

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but it was so good and i got to work with a lot of very close friends of mine

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on the project so it was like it was such a fun project to work on but.

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Would have never known how successful it

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would have been until it came out and we were all just like

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um okay in many ways

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too you're kind of like the the silent heroes of this

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world right because a lot of people always think voice actor whatever director

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whatever they don't think about the other group of people that are all

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part of making the game so you should i i want

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you to know we always try to do our best to be cognizant of

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that world and i'm so thankful that you were a part of those games man because i love

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those games man those those games mean everything to me like

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three houses when i played that game my mind i couldn't

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tell you like i couldn't stop thinking about that game for a long time like

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my choices everything but the sound is

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so important because it it envelops you in that world.

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Yeah and you just did the work you did on that your

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team everybody you guys should be so proud and thank you and

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honestly i'm so thankful that i've gotten to meet you and be a part of all

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this so my question to you though

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now is what's coming out what you got going on

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can you talk about anything no that's always

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a tough one i can tell you there's a couple things because right

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now I mean of course we're in a video game strike right now there was

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a thing though that's pretty that's that'll

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be that'll be pretty noticeable when

00:24:05.071 --> 00:24:07.951
it when it comes out that I'm really happy to have worked

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on it's from a series that's been going on for a long time so

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I'm like very happy to have worked on it it's on

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hiatus right now we were working on it

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and then the strike started and then it kind of just like stopped

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so I don't know if we had just happened to

00:24:22.831 --> 00:24:25.611
finish right before the strike or if the company had been

00:24:25.611 --> 00:24:30.091
like oh we're gonna like put that on pause and wait out the strike which is

00:24:30.091 --> 00:24:34.411
like a dick move but like you know whatever so yeah if that when that comes

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out i'll be all like hey i worked on this but right now because the industry

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is very just all over the place at the moment i'm mostly doing a lot of like adr.

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You know, like random things, nothing that's like anyone's going to recognize necessarily.

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But I did work on this like little indie game called Corrupt. Really?

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Yeah. Oh, wow. Yeah. It's like this fighting game, this up and coming fighting

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game. I think they premiered at like GDC or something like that this year.

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And that was just like one of those random little things. There's a friend of

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a friend was like, hey, I need a guy.

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And I was like, cool, I can do it. And so we, you know, brought in a bunch of

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people and did the thing and just made this little fighting game.

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Which is so weird. And I think the funny enough, the only reason as they announce things in the corner,

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the funny enough, the only reason I got that is because I had worked on blaze

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blue and soul caliber years and years ago.

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And someone, and they just happened to like, see some, like someone had said

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something offhanded and they were like, Oh, he worked on that.

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Oh, I want that guy. And I was like, yeah, okay. You got it.

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Sure. Let's do it. I love it, man. So, you know, and I always like to end these

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interviews with like great, not great. I shouldn't say that about myself.

00:25:48.755 --> 00:25:52.935
Fun questions, I should say. So let me ask you this. What are your top three,

00:25:52.935 --> 00:25:56.215
your top three fighting games of all time?

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Ooh, my top three. Well, I Super Smash Brothers is always like probably my favorite.

00:26:02.795 --> 00:26:06.535
It's the one I played melee religiously when that was around.

00:26:06.595 --> 00:26:10.555
I actually played it professionally or not professionally, but I used to go

00:26:10.555 --> 00:26:15.535
do tournaments and stuff like that. in all the opens back when that was a thing.

00:26:15.875 --> 00:26:20.655
And of course, Ultimate is now just like, it's so fun. I have such a good time

00:26:20.655 --> 00:26:23.575
playing that with people. I love Smash.

00:26:24.435 --> 00:26:29.315
I'm not like a big fighting game person necessarily, but I love Smash.

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And somehow, I don't know how or why, but my brother got me stuck playing DOA years ago.

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It's a great game though. It's great. but it's

00:26:41.035 --> 00:26:43.955
like hard to be a doa fan without people being like

00:26:43.955 --> 00:26:46.755
yeah uh-huh you know you know because it's

00:26:46.755 --> 00:26:49.735
like yeah it's doa but it's like that's it's actually

00:26:49.735 --> 00:26:52.815
a really good fighting game it's got like really solid mechanics

00:26:52.815 --> 00:26:55.815
and i played i played four and five

00:26:55.815 --> 00:26:58.475
a lot for a long time and so

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doa was like my other like go-to fighting game i

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did some like tournaments and stuff for that but i

00:27:04.655 --> 00:27:07.695
think those are the only two that i like really you would

00:27:07.695 --> 00:27:10.555
say you love that i'd like love to play i mean

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marvel vs capcom 2 was also like fantastic but i'm

00:27:13.395 --> 00:27:16.795
also like not good at that game at all skull

00:27:16.795 --> 00:27:22.755
girls also like fantastic also totally ass at that game i'm like i'm like cool

00:27:22.755 --> 00:27:26.435
i'm like good at smash brothers and good at doa any other fighting game you

00:27:26.435 --> 00:27:30.955
would not catch me dead what about brawlhalla you play that i don't know if

00:27:30.955 --> 00:27:34.195
i've played that one you should check that out If you like Smash and the art

00:27:34.195 --> 00:27:36.055
style of Schoolgirls, it's very similar.

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Oh, okay, okay. Yeah, I play, yeah, I haven't.

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Yeah, I did. There was another Smash-alike that was really cool.

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Was it Rivals of Ether or something like that?

00:27:48.401 --> 00:27:54.381
I can't remember. But that was like the Smash-alike that came out on Steam or

00:27:54.381 --> 00:27:57.321
something a while back. And that one was pretty cool, but I was also not good at it.

00:27:57.741 --> 00:28:00.601
That's so funny. Yeah, there are certain things where I'm like,

00:28:00.661 --> 00:28:05.401
my fingers don't move as quickly as they used to, I guess. I don't know.

00:28:05.741 --> 00:28:10.901
But yeah, Smash was my jam. DOA is my jam. All the other fighting games, I'm just not good at.

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I'll take it. That's still two great answers. I love that. So I don't know if

00:28:14.721 --> 00:28:17.061
you want to, but do you want to tell the audience where they can connect with you?

00:28:17.261 --> 00:28:22.821
No worries if not. Yeah, you can find me. I'll have to like slightly look at these things.

00:28:23.021 --> 00:28:28.001
But my normal thing is the artist formerly known on Twitter.

00:28:30.081 --> 00:28:37.181
Artist formerly known as Twitter. You can find me at T-H-E underscore L-I-L-L-Z at The Lills.

00:28:37.181 --> 00:28:43.041
And i believe it is the same for like blue sky and i think instagram might just

00:28:43.041 --> 00:28:49.561
be like eddie correa or something like that i can't specifically remember yeah blue sky stole the lils,

00:28:50.261 --> 00:28:54.701
instagram i think is either the same thing or it's just my name those are those

00:28:54.701 --> 00:28:58.321
are kind of the places but yeah awesome please go follow this this person is

00:28:58.321 --> 00:29:03.141
so you know what it really struck me a chord when i got to meet you is that

00:29:03.141 --> 00:29:06.881
it was very you just felt very inviting welcoming and just human.

00:29:07.581 --> 00:29:11.121
And right now we need that more than anything else. So just so thankful for

00:29:11.121 --> 00:29:12.761
you taking the time and chatting with me, man.

00:29:12.901 --> 00:29:16.581
And your work is incredible. I mean, be proud of it, man. I love it. It's great.

00:29:16.741 --> 00:29:20.961
And next time I see you, I'll bring a copy of DOA just for you to sign it.

00:29:21.381 --> 00:29:23.781
Even though you weren't a part of it, but just sign it.

00:29:24.501 --> 00:29:28.021
I don't know. I'm pretty sure I worked on DOA. The Dreamcast one?

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Not the Dreamcast. I'm going to bring that one.

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I think I worked on six. Okay. I think whatever the most recent DOA is, I worked on.

00:29:36.601 --> 00:29:40.361
Because the studio I was working with at the time, they did...

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It was like BlazBlue, Soulcalibur, DOA, and I think there was one other fighting game.

00:29:48.306 --> 00:29:53.626
And I can't remember. But I've worked on so many random fighting games, and it's super weird.

00:29:53.766 --> 00:29:58.546
It's like Kira Buckland and I are neck and neck on how many fighting games we've worked on.

00:29:59.506 --> 00:30:03.326
I think Kira's now got me beat because they just got Guilty Gear or something.

00:30:03.686 --> 00:30:07.966
I think it's Guilty Gear they just got. But yeah, all the random stuff.

00:30:09.486 --> 00:30:12.906
All right, everybody. Uncle Dad is back hanging out with another superstar at the con.

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Let's give it up to the one, the only, Karina Betker.

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Did I say that right? Yeah, you did. It's me.

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How are you? Just really fast if you can. Can you tell our audience kind of

00:30:24.166 --> 00:30:26.226
what you've been in and what you do? Yeah.

00:30:27.026 --> 00:30:32.726
My name is, as they said, Karina Betker. I am an autistic non-binary voice actor.

00:30:32.986 --> 00:30:37.046
I voice Paimon and Genshin Impact, Tatsumaki and One Punch Man,

00:30:37.506 --> 00:30:42.066
Mizuki and I, The Somnium Files, Sailor Tinienko and Sailor Moon,

00:30:42.546 --> 00:30:44.466
and lots, lots, and lots more.

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I love it. Now, I have to give you a basic question because we always have to

00:30:49.306 --> 00:30:54.786
start with a basic question, and that is, how does one like you get into voice acting?

00:30:55.666 --> 00:30:59.006
Have a weird obsession with Jim Carrey when you're five years old.

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Tell your parents that you want to be Jim Carrey when you grow up.

00:31:02.006 --> 00:31:04.926
Get mad at them because you decided they lied when you say you can't magically

00:31:04.926 --> 00:31:09.106
turn into another person. and be like, you told me I could be whatever I wanted

00:31:09.106 --> 00:31:10.426
to be when I grow up, you lied!

00:31:10.706 --> 00:31:15.386
Have a whole meltdown over it. Then come to the conclusion with my parents that

00:31:15.386 --> 00:31:18.606
you can't turn into a different person, but you can be an actor like him.

00:31:18.706 --> 00:31:21.426
And I was like, okay, fine, I guess that's close enough.

00:31:23.146 --> 00:31:28.326
Honestly though, because I started so young, my parents were the biggest help

00:31:28.326 --> 00:31:30.226
in my life when it comes to that.

00:31:31.064 --> 00:31:34.004
One of the biggest support systems I've ever had. They're not perfect parents,

00:31:34.164 --> 00:31:39.944
but they really did were implemented like, you know, like this is what I wanted to do.

00:31:40.104 --> 00:31:44.064
And my mom was like, okay, let's do it. Found me classes up in Seattle.

00:31:44.524 --> 00:31:50.024
I did my first like community theater thing when I was five years old after

00:31:50.024 --> 00:31:52.104
I had that whole thing with them.

00:31:52.164 --> 00:31:55.124
And I was like, yep, this is actually what I want to do for the rest of my life.

00:31:55.264 --> 00:31:57.704
She found me classes. She found me auditions.

00:31:58.064 --> 00:32:01.924
So I started professionally working as an actor since I was eight years old.

00:32:02.464 --> 00:32:06.484
Yeah, in theater. And my first voice acting job was also when I was eight years old.

00:32:06.784 --> 00:32:12.344
Wow. What was that first role? Who am I asking? It was a promo for Resident Evil 2. Really?

00:32:12.884 --> 00:32:18.104
Wow. So the OG Resident Evil. Yeah, the OG Resident Evil when I was a kid.

00:32:18.284 --> 00:32:20.484
And I actually didn't know that.

00:32:20.684 --> 00:32:23.864
I had no idea that that was what it was because I was eight years old at the

00:32:23.864 --> 00:32:27.404
time. My mom was just like, Like, yeah, it's a scary movie or scary video game.

00:32:27.584 --> 00:32:31.264
And they're going to promo it at like some convention. So it's not going to

00:32:31.264 --> 00:32:33.484
be like it wasn't a commercial nationally or anything.

00:32:33.704 --> 00:32:38.124
It was literally just shown at a convention that was basically PAX before PAX.

00:32:38.304 --> 00:32:42.344
And it was shown in Seattle. And I think the convention was for trying to bring

00:32:42.344 --> 00:32:46.744
more Japanese game devs into the American scene when it came to making video

00:32:46.744 --> 00:32:51.284
games, especially because Nintendo of America's headquarters is up in Seattle as well.

00:32:51.484 --> 00:32:53.964
We call it Treehouse because it's surrounded by trees.

00:32:54.844 --> 00:32:58.224
But yeah so yeah i i did that

00:32:58.224 --> 00:33:01.584
wow that's that's amazing so you

00:33:01.584 --> 00:33:04.284
know obviously time has passed and now you're doing all these great things which

00:33:04.284 --> 00:33:08.264
is great for you and i'm i'm so happy that we got to cross paths today but i

00:33:08.264 --> 00:33:13.544
got a very serious question to ask you because i see your shoes i love dinosaurs

00:33:13.544 --> 00:33:18.424
i can tell you i love that you do too so we're gonna play this game not really a game,

00:33:18.444 --> 00:33:24.124
but you're going to tell me your top three dinosaurs of all time. Denonicus?

00:33:25.681 --> 00:33:28.381
Compi okay i can't pronounce the full

00:33:28.381 --> 00:33:31.061
name but those that are in the dinosaur world know what i'm talking about

00:33:31.061 --> 00:33:34.901
when i say a compi and a dilophosaurus okay why

00:33:34.901 --> 00:33:37.741
is dilophosaurus number one i like how they were

00:33:37.741 --> 00:33:40.981
completely utterly lied about in jurassic

00:33:40.981 --> 00:33:45.221
park i mean jurassic park i love that movie by the way when i was because it

00:33:45.221 --> 00:33:49.181
came out in 1993 i was three years old my parents were like you like dinosaurs

00:33:49.181 --> 00:33:55.381
let's bring you to this terrifying movie i remember this because we almost got

00:33:55.381 --> 00:33:58.841
kicked out of the theater because I was screaming at the theater.

00:33:59.281 --> 00:34:01.221
Now you might be thinking, oh yeah, because you were scared.

00:34:01.361 --> 00:34:05.981
No, I was screaming dinosaur facts because they were getting them all wrong.

00:34:06.481 --> 00:34:10.081
So the T-Rex is not a hunter, it's a scavenger. And we know that because the

00:34:10.081 --> 00:34:14.061
bones in the T-Rex skull, it resembles vultures.

00:34:14.441 --> 00:34:15.801
And vultures are scavengers.

00:34:16.521 --> 00:34:20.741
And basically, with the nose of a vulture, it has all of these cavities because

00:34:20.741 --> 00:34:22.741
it has different cavities for picking up different smells.

00:34:23.481 --> 00:34:27.821
Scavenger's sense of smell is so great, which is interesting for a vulture because

00:34:27.821 --> 00:34:30.541
most birds actually have really bad sense of smells.

00:34:31.001 --> 00:34:35.241
I have two parrots at home, terrible sense of smell, but vultures have a really

00:34:35.241 --> 00:34:37.921
good sense of smell and so do chickens.

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And chickens are the nearest relative to a T-Rex that we have because those

00:34:44.141 --> 00:34:47.341
that think that dinosaurs went extinct, they didn't. They live now. They're all birds.

00:34:47.861 --> 00:34:51.221
Birds are actually dinosaurs. Crocodiles are not. You know, some people think

00:34:51.221 --> 00:34:53.281
birds aren't real. Also fair.

00:34:54.661 --> 00:34:58.841
Because I got two government spies in my house. Oh, there you go.

00:34:59.961 --> 00:35:06.461
But so the cavities of a T-Rex nose sinus area is the same as a vulture.

00:35:06.941 --> 00:35:11.541
And also consider this. You even see it in the movie.

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You can see like the waters start moving because every time the Tyrannosaurus

00:35:15.901 --> 00:35:21.521
Rex makes a single step, it shakes everything and it makes a big booming sound. How is that a hunter?

00:35:22.881 --> 00:35:27.141
Any dinosaur in the area would feel the vibrations and go bolting.

00:35:27.341 --> 00:35:35.461
It doesn't make any sense. But a good hunter will, like, hunt an animal.

00:35:35.541 --> 00:35:39.241
And then the T-Rex, being a big boy, can just be like, yeah,

00:35:39.321 --> 00:35:42.061
you're going to fucking move or I'm going to eat you because I'm going to eat this instead.

00:35:43.201 --> 00:35:47.701
So that's the Dilophosaurus. Oh, did I even say that right? I'm probably confusing

00:35:47.701 --> 00:35:52.801
it with a different name right now. The one, I confuse a lot of names sometimes

00:35:52.801 --> 00:35:54.121
because my brain is mushy.

00:35:54.361 --> 00:35:57.541
I apologize for any dinosaur enthusiasts out there, but you know what I'm talking

00:35:57.541 --> 00:35:59.861
about. The guy with, yeah, he goes.

00:36:00.201 --> 00:36:05.741
The one that kills Newman. Yes. And squirts venom. They didn't squirt venom. Really? No.

00:36:06.361 --> 00:36:12.281
No. They didn't do that. Also, half of the dinosaur, no, like 90% of the dinosaurs

00:36:12.281 --> 00:36:15.401
in Jurassic Park, the first movie, were in the Cretaceous period,

00:36:15.401 --> 00:36:17.441
not Jurassic Park. Not Jurassic.

00:36:17.921 --> 00:36:21.921
Really? I don't think I ever knew that. Oh, yeah. Most T-Rex is Cretaceous.

00:36:22.141 --> 00:36:23.201
Velociraptors are Cretaceous.

00:36:23.461 --> 00:36:27.981
Also, Velociraptors in the movie are actually based off of the Dononicus,

00:36:28.101 --> 00:36:32.541
not the Velociraptor, because a Velociraptor is actually more of a size of a chicken.

00:36:33.041 --> 00:36:34.901
Really? Yeah. The...

00:36:36.574 --> 00:36:40.594
Dononychus is about five feet tall, shaped like a velociraptor,

00:36:40.694 --> 00:36:45.754
but the five feet tall version, full of feathers, and found in North America.

00:36:46.134 --> 00:36:52.234
And that, so basically, they, there's two theories to what happened with that.

00:36:52.514 --> 00:36:57.634
There was this paleo artist who actually confused the Dononychus in his book

00:36:57.634 --> 00:37:00.034
with the velociraptor, called it the velociraptor.

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So that was one way people thought, oh, maybe that was why they confused the

00:37:03.674 --> 00:37:08.394
velociraptor, the Dononychus. The other theory was Velociraptor is easier to

00:37:08.394 --> 00:37:11.574
say than Denonicus, so we'll just call it a Velociraptor since they're cousins.

00:37:11.834 --> 00:37:12.594
Sure, close enough, right?

00:37:12.914 --> 00:37:15.634
I love how passionate you are about dinosaurs. I don't think I've met somebody

00:37:15.634 --> 00:37:18.854
as passionate about dinosaurs as you. I love dinosaurs.

00:37:19.134 --> 00:37:22.214
And again, I might be wrong about a lot of the things that I said right now,

00:37:22.254 --> 00:37:27.034
and I encourage any paleontologist to please come to me and talk to me about it. Please.

00:37:27.614 --> 00:37:30.774
Open invitation. They want that. They want to be able to dive into that with

00:37:30.774 --> 00:37:34.274
them, right? Because I mean, could you imagine you're at a con and that person

00:37:34.274 --> 00:37:36.714
comes up to you and all you do is talk about that?

00:37:36.894 --> 00:37:41.514
Yeah. No, I one of the things that I have learned about me being interested

00:37:41.514 --> 00:37:43.514
in the things that I study is I love being wrong.

00:37:43.694 --> 00:37:47.434
I love when somebody comes to me and says, actually, you got this factly slightly wrong.

00:37:47.614 --> 00:37:50.054
This is what actually happened. I'm like, that is so interesting.

00:37:50.234 --> 00:37:53.394
Thank you for telling me that. And it creates conversation.

00:37:53.554 --> 00:37:58.134
And we both learn in those moments, you know, because there's a lot of misconceptions

00:37:58.134 --> 00:38:00.654
about dinosaurs for several reasons, mostly Jurassic Park.

00:38:02.154 --> 00:38:08.094
But like even back in the day when paleontologists were first putting these

00:38:08.094 --> 00:38:12.514
dinosaur bones together, they would put pieces together and be like,

00:38:12.634 --> 00:38:16.354
I think this is what it should look like.

00:38:16.574 --> 00:38:21.534
And so, for example, a lot of the dinosaurs we see, we see them almost very skinny.

00:38:21.714 --> 00:38:25.914
And a lot of paleontologists are like, that's called shrink wrapping.

00:38:25.914 --> 00:38:31.114
What they did was basically they looked at these dinosaur fossils.

00:38:31.114 --> 00:38:32.614
They're not bones. They are fossils.

00:38:32.754 --> 00:38:34.954
The bones are gone. That's why they're fossils.

00:38:35.854 --> 00:38:40.794
There is a difference. And to imagine what these creatures would look like back

00:38:40.794 --> 00:38:44.994
then, they didn't include any muscle, any fat, anything like that.

00:38:45.234 --> 00:38:51.834
So we also now think that these creatures were much pudgier than before,

00:38:51.834 --> 00:38:53.794
especially based off of the climate.

00:38:54.074 --> 00:38:58.694
Because there were three periods of the time of the dinosaurs.

00:38:58.994 --> 00:39:04.574
Did you know that we are closer in the timeline to a T-Rex than a Triceratops?

00:39:05.054 --> 00:39:10.614
Whoa. Yeah. I didn't know that. Because that's how long the dinosaurs were on this earth.

00:39:10.834 --> 00:39:15.054
Also, there wasn't just one extinction period. There were several.

00:39:15.314 --> 00:39:18.294
So people think, oh, a meteor hit and then all the dinosaurs died,

00:39:18.454 --> 00:39:21.654
which they didn't. Again, they're birds because birds exist. Birds are dinosaurs.

00:39:22.074 --> 00:39:26.934
But there were several different extinction periods, which is what created several

00:39:26.934 --> 00:39:32.994
different types of evolutionary possibilities that happen, which,

00:39:33.154 --> 00:39:34.774
of course, develop theropods.

00:39:35.454 --> 00:39:38.934
Theropods being the one that evolved into

00:39:38.934 --> 00:39:42.414
birds because birds are theropods yeah wow i

00:39:42.414 --> 00:39:47.894
i feel like i'm talking to what the study of that is is it okay i feel like

00:39:47.894 --> 00:39:51.794
i'm talking to a paleontologist then because you seem so educated on this does

00:39:51.794 --> 00:39:55.614
that just come from just fascination or from schooling where does that come

00:39:55.614 --> 00:40:00.134
from strictly fascination i and and again i encourage everybody need to fact

00:40:00.134 --> 00:40:02.174
check on me. I am okay with being wrong.

00:40:02.354 --> 00:40:05.054
Please, again, if I'm wrong, please tell me.

00:40:05.574 --> 00:40:10.354
And because I love learning. I love learning about different things,

00:40:10.454 --> 00:40:12.654
especially those things that definitely interest me.

00:40:13.234 --> 00:40:17.874
And the idea that these massive creatures

00:40:17.874 --> 00:40:24.234
once roamed these lands and the discoveries that we make about them.

00:40:24.434 --> 00:40:29.054
For example, a lot of dinosaurs back in the day, we've discovered cancers in

00:40:29.054 --> 00:40:33.874
them and discovering cancers in them could help us potentially cure cancer now.

00:40:34.394 --> 00:40:39.294
We can create vaccines based off of things that we knew existed back then because

00:40:39.294 --> 00:40:40.474
we can see them in the fossils.

00:40:40.854 --> 00:40:45.274
So bird flu existed back then because it affected the dinosaurs.

00:40:45.594 --> 00:40:49.154
And now we have different strains of bird flu, of course, and I have to be careful

00:40:49.154 --> 00:40:50.954
of that because I have two of them in my house.

00:40:51.374 --> 00:40:56.574
And based off those fossils and how it evolved, because the But one thing that

00:40:56.574 --> 00:40:58.834
is really cool about vaccines is that like.

00:40:59.548 --> 00:41:05.028
We basically have to make a vaccine that's not just good enough for the illness right now.

00:41:05.128 --> 00:41:07.568
We have to have it be good enough for when it evolves too.

00:41:08.308 --> 00:41:13.048
And seeing how it evolves over time helps us create those vaccines. Wow.

00:41:14.368 --> 00:41:19.668
You have probably arguably taught me so much in this small time that I've ever

00:41:19.668 --> 00:41:21.128
done in any interview I've ever done.

00:41:21.348 --> 00:41:25.108
Again, please fact check me. I could be, I'm not a paleontologist myself.

00:41:25.368 --> 00:41:29.648
I am also not a person that studies vaccine. This is strictly based off of my

00:41:29.648 --> 00:41:32.168
own personal interest in it. So please fact check me.

00:41:33.488 --> 00:41:37.848
Well, before they do that, though, where can our audience learn more about you

00:41:37.848 --> 00:41:40.248
and all the work you do and all the projects you have coming out?

00:41:41.028 --> 00:41:46.028
I obviously have a Twitter. It's called at the bird Zulu, which is one of my birds.

00:41:46.348 --> 00:41:51.108
I have a Blue Sky account, which is Karina Betger. I also Twitch stream.

00:41:51.528 --> 00:41:56.288
You can find me there, Karina Betger. I have a TikTok that I post a lot of stupid stuff to.

00:41:56.988 --> 00:42:00.768
And and you can see my birds on there and my dog and

00:42:00.768 --> 00:42:04.088
my dog who we're training to be my service dog eventually what kind

00:42:04.088 --> 00:42:07.128
of dog is it it's a standard poodle oh yeah she's

00:42:07.128 --> 00:42:11.088
really cute and really smart so you

00:42:11.088 --> 00:42:13.988
know this whole weekend obviously we're here at a con where you know

00:42:13.988 --> 00:42:16.808
just like myself you're a con expert we do all cons all

00:42:16.808 --> 00:42:20.128
the time what has been the highlight of this

00:42:20.128 --> 00:42:22.848
con for you getting drunk and high at

00:42:22.848 --> 00:42:25.628
a bar do you want me to keep that in oh yeah i don't

00:42:25.628 --> 00:42:28.708
care i spoke i am a disabled person

00:42:28.708 --> 00:42:31.688
we live in california we are currently in california it

00:42:31.688 --> 00:42:34.608
is legal yeah yeah oh keep

00:42:34.608 --> 00:42:39.108
it real i love it i absolutely love it corinna i can't tell you one of my highlights

00:42:39.108 --> 00:42:43.348
i mean obviously sitting with my friend ming chen is great but getting to meet

00:42:43.348 --> 00:42:47.628
new people and meeting degree meeting getting to meet great new people is what

00:42:47.628 --> 00:42:51.428
i why i love doing this job so much and i'm so thankful we got to hang out this

00:42:51.428 --> 00:42:54.268
weekend so just thank you so much for your time your participation

00:42:54.668 --> 00:42:58.528
and all the work that you do I mean you're in so many great things and I'm sure

00:42:58.528 --> 00:43:02.488
somebody listening is a big fan of yours so just thank you I hope so thank you

00:43:02.488 --> 00:43:06.708
so much for having me this has been really fun awesome I'm so glad you think so but before we go,

00:43:07.248 --> 00:43:08.528
before we go you got to play a

00:43:08.528 --> 00:43:13.688
game real fast and that game is what do you think is my favorite dinosaur.

00:43:16.338 --> 00:43:20.858
Oh, no. Can I think of the name? Okay, I can describe it. It's the armored one

00:43:20.858 --> 00:43:23.518
with the tail that looks like it has a spiky ball at the end.

00:43:23.798 --> 00:43:29.418
It's like almost, it's on all fours. Oh, gosh. Is that a stegosaurus?

00:43:29.718 --> 00:43:32.778
No, it's not. Okay, stegosaurus is the right one. Oh, okay.

00:43:33.658 --> 00:43:38.858
I believe that was in the Triassic period. I could be wrong. Okay.

00:43:39.318 --> 00:43:43.438
Yeah. Okay, well, you can fact check her and send those messages to her platform.

00:43:43.558 --> 00:43:47.058
God, please send me messages to talk to me about dinosaurs. I will gladly be

00:43:47.058 --> 00:43:48.498
fact-checked any day about them.

00:43:48.678 --> 00:43:51.138
I love that. Check them out. Absolutely.

00:43:51.378 --> 00:43:53.758
Just so thankful for your time. And we'll be right back after this break.

00:43:55.658 --> 00:44:00.058
Hey, what's up? This is Suli McCullough. Crazy legs from Don't Be a Menace to

00:44:00.058 --> 00:44:02.978
South Central while drinking your juice in the hood.

00:44:04.678 --> 00:44:08.998
And you're listening to Uncle Dad Talks Podcast. That's right.

00:44:10.538 --> 00:44:14.178
All right, everybody. Uncle Dad is back, and I'm hanging out with a superstar.

00:44:14.178 --> 00:44:16.078
Believe me, this is a superstar.

00:44:16.338 --> 00:44:19.398
And I'll tell you why I believe that, because I feel the energy radiating from

00:44:19.398 --> 00:44:22.878
her, and I feel it entering my soul, and I'm so excited.

00:44:22.998 --> 00:44:25.118
But I just remember one thing, you can't talk about somebody specific,

00:44:25.318 --> 00:44:26.378
but we'll get to that end of the point.

00:44:26.558 --> 00:44:29.518
Let's give it up for Adasa. How are you? I'm so happy to be here.

00:44:29.938 --> 00:44:32.838
Sorry that was too long of an intro. No, not at all.

00:44:32.958 --> 00:44:35.938
I just try to make them a little fun, but sometimes it can be a little,

00:44:36.158 --> 00:44:38.198
I get in my own little head, and I'm like, oh, what do I do?

00:44:38.298 --> 00:44:39.578
But I think I went somewhere.

00:44:39.958 --> 00:44:44.378
Adasa, let me ask you this. you're part of the movie, a global phenomenon called Encanto.

00:44:44.638 --> 00:44:48.078
What was that experience getting to that role like?

00:44:48.719 --> 00:44:53.039
It was wonderful. They actually sought me out through my YouTube channel and

00:44:53.039 --> 00:44:54.179
asked me if I would audition.

00:44:54.359 --> 00:44:56.539
Now, I never thought I would get the part. But then when I did,

00:44:56.599 --> 00:44:58.159
I was like, oh, my goodness, dream come true.

00:44:58.299 --> 00:45:00.359
I've been wanting to do something with Disney since I was nine years old.

00:45:00.479 --> 00:45:04.319
And so this was like full circle after doing music for so many years and working

00:45:04.319 --> 00:45:08.419
with Pitbull and Daddy Yankee and Flo Rider and so many greats to be able to

00:45:08.419 --> 00:45:11.919
do this again and then work again with Luis Fonsi doing the Oscars.

00:45:12.139 --> 00:45:13.239
And that was just wonderful.

00:45:13.699 --> 00:45:16.359
Yeah, it's like those experiences. is we never think they're going to take us

00:45:16.359 --> 00:45:18.939
to where they do, but they do and they feel so surreal, right?

00:45:19.299 --> 00:45:22.879
What has been the most challenging moment getting to that point,

00:45:22.959 --> 00:45:26.799
you think? I think the most challenging moment would have to be just waiting.

00:45:26.979 --> 00:45:31.699
Sometimes the waiting process of being able to get that last little dream that

00:45:31.699 --> 00:45:35.079
you want, but at the same time, it's really rewarding because you grow and so

00:45:35.079 --> 00:45:36.359
you're ready for it when it comes.

00:45:36.459 --> 00:45:39.959
So for those of you out there listening, if you have a dream and you've been

00:45:39.959 --> 00:45:41.959
pursuing it, don't give up, just get better.

00:45:42.139 --> 00:45:45.839
Get better at your craft, get better at what you're doing because when the opportunity

00:45:45.839 --> 00:45:50.819
comes, which it will if you don't stop before that moment comes, you will be ready for it.

00:45:50.979 --> 00:45:53.479
Yeah, I love that you said that because we talk a lot about on the show about

00:45:53.479 --> 00:45:56.299
passion and how when you're passionate about something, if you just keep pushing

00:45:56.299 --> 00:46:00.119
and you keep pushing, it may take you 20 years, but at some point you will get there.

00:46:00.279 --> 00:46:03.099
And that makes all that work worth it.

00:46:03.299 --> 00:46:06.059
And so I can only imagine like when you finally got and you got through all

00:46:06.059 --> 00:46:10.079
that, I mean, it must feel surreal to this day that you're a part of something so big, right?

00:46:10.359 --> 00:46:13.759
Absolutely. I think that all of us, a part of this cast, feel

00:46:13.759 --> 00:46:16.519
like this was such a wonderful moment in all of our lives because

00:46:16.519 --> 00:46:19.499
it was a culmination of not just who we

00:46:19.499 --> 00:46:22.259
are authentically that you're seeing on screen but also

00:46:22.259 --> 00:46:25.639
of our culture so to be able to celebrate being latinos and

00:46:25.639 --> 00:46:28.499
seeing so many of us that are such different colors and

00:46:28.499 --> 00:46:31.559
from different places within even colombia to be

00:46:31.559 --> 00:46:34.559
able to have that and and cherish that moment we really

00:46:34.559 --> 00:46:37.799
feel like a familia now you know absolutely and what's so great about that movie

00:46:37.799 --> 00:46:41.839
is that you know all latinx you know people we i think we all kind of got behind

00:46:41.839 --> 00:46:45.059
it like i'm Mexican myself and you know even watching that movie being so connected

00:46:45.059 --> 00:46:49.599
to just you feel the love the culture and I don't think we get enough of sometimes

00:46:49.599 --> 00:46:52.019
I feel like we don't get enough Latinx you know.

00:46:52.599 --> 00:46:55.459
Representation in that world, especially in the world of like animated film.

00:46:55.739 --> 00:46:59.599
So just seeing that represented so well, it means the world to me and my family.

00:46:59.759 --> 00:47:02.219
So, you know, for that, thank you for being a part of that, you know?

00:47:02.519 --> 00:47:07.199
And so with you doing all that, what has been the most wildest part of all this?

00:47:07.259 --> 00:47:10.519
Like, have you done anything crazy since then? You have to do one crazy thing, right?

00:47:10.799 --> 00:47:14.839
You know, what is that crazy thing? I think I've taken my family too many times to Disney.

00:47:16.019 --> 00:47:18.879
That sounds like a dream come true, if you ask me. Me, there's never too many

00:47:18.879 --> 00:47:19.739
times, but you know what?

00:47:19.879 --> 00:47:23.119
I think that it's a story that doesn't just resonate within the Latinx community.

00:47:23.119 --> 00:47:28.499
I feel we are seen and heard a lot more, but I think it's just family story.

00:47:28.719 --> 00:47:32.399
And so it doesn't matter if you have a Latinx background or not,

00:47:32.559 --> 00:47:36.879
you understand the story of a family and that everybody has a little.

00:47:37.319 --> 00:47:40.919
We don't talk about Bruno in our own family.

00:47:41.059 --> 00:47:44.239
So, you know, those Brunos in the closet, that really makes you really think.

00:47:44.459 --> 00:47:48.179
And even to your own ancestors, why did they have to go through some things

00:47:48.179 --> 00:47:50.499
or why is your grandma so like grouchy?

00:47:50.659 --> 00:47:53.859
Well, she went through things that you'll never have to go through.

00:47:54.119 --> 00:47:57.859
And so we have to have a little bit more grace for those who came before us

00:47:57.859 --> 00:48:02.079
and understand they do it out of love, even though sometimes love feels a little tough.

00:48:02.499 --> 00:48:04.959
Oh, yeah. I can relate to that for sure. So I know what you mean.

00:48:05.359 --> 00:48:09.359
So, you know, since Encanto, like what if you can talk about it,

00:48:09.439 --> 00:48:11.719
what's kind of coming out next for you? What are you working on? All that good stuff.

00:48:12.119 --> 00:48:15.839
Absolutely. I've been actually working on new music so I'm really excited about

00:48:15.839 --> 00:48:20.359
that releasing my music it has a little bit of a country pop feel and you can

00:48:20.359 --> 00:48:24.279
get an all platform so on Spotify or anything please follow me and that's official

00:48:24.279 --> 00:48:29.099
and you'll be able to find me there on Instagram Spotify, YouTube,

00:48:29.519 --> 00:48:33.339
Facebook and now we have the new upcoming tour so we'll be doing that next year

00:48:33.339 --> 00:48:37.399
as well as more appearances and comic cons so I will be able to do meet and

00:48:37.399 --> 00:48:41.399
greets with you guys in a city near you I love that. How many cons have you

00:48:41.399 --> 00:48:42.699
been to? Have you been to tons of cons?

00:48:42.899 --> 00:48:46.399
I have I actually never had done one until Encanto came out.

00:48:46.559 --> 00:48:51.199
And since then, I just love it because we can really come and be with our fans

00:48:51.199 --> 00:48:54.799
and be able to enjoy that moment and sing a little. We don't talk about Bruno together.

00:48:55.079 --> 00:48:57.819
And then I get to talk about my experience and answer questions for the fans.

00:48:57.919 --> 00:49:01.319
So I just love it. We really can just connect in that way. It's beautiful.

00:49:01.499 --> 00:49:04.999
I love that, too. So what's for this particular con? Sorry, not this con.

00:49:05.139 --> 00:49:06.759
What's the next con coming on your train?

00:49:07.299 --> 00:49:11.079
Oh, so my next con is going to be in February, and that's going to be here in

00:49:11.079 --> 00:49:12.759
California. So I'm really excited about it.

00:49:12.879 --> 00:49:15.359
Can we say where? No, not yet. Not yet. Okay. Okay.

00:49:15.579 --> 00:49:19.099
Okay. Okay. I just want to make sure. Cause I got to make sure the uncle dad

00:49:19.099 --> 00:49:21.619
family comes out and supports it. You know, that's what I'm saying.

00:49:21.899 --> 00:49:25.079
So my last question, cause we've got to keep it a little fun, silly.

00:49:25.479 --> 00:49:29.539
What are your top three country songs of all time? Oh my goodness.

00:49:30.339 --> 00:49:33.899
Well, I got friends in low places.

00:49:34.219 --> 00:49:36.699
Come on. You got to do that. Yeah, of course. Yeah. That's an amazing one.

00:49:36.759 --> 00:49:38.659
Yeah. I don't want to sing cause I don't want to scare our audience away,

00:49:38.739 --> 00:49:40.639
but I love that. That's amazing. Okay. So.

00:49:41.059 --> 00:49:43.839
One we got two more oh my goodness well i have to

00:49:43.839 --> 00:49:46.679
have reba mcintyre in there i gotta put in one of those songs because

00:49:46.679 --> 00:49:49.379
i love it and then i would say

00:49:49.379 --> 00:49:52.559
walker hayes oh wow walker hayes that's

00:49:52.559 --> 00:49:55.819
fun that's actually i actually think walker hayes is great that's amazing so

00:49:55.819 --> 00:49:58.399
talking about country really fast and you probably your music you're working

00:49:58.399 --> 00:50:01.699
on do you find that country is kind of going through a huge resurgence right

00:50:01.699 --> 00:50:05.639
now and if you do who is a current country artist that you're kind of really

00:50:05.639 --> 00:50:08.999
feeling right now i definitely walker hayes is one of my favorites i think what

00:50:08.999 --> 00:50:10.759
he's doing with country music is really unique.

00:50:11.139 --> 00:50:15.319
Shambuzy as well. I think Shambuzy is doing a great job being able to blur the

00:50:15.319 --> 00:50:17.999
lines between hip hop and country music.

00:50:18.299 --> 00:50:21.959
There's some great and talented people, even Beyonce herself just stepping out

00:50:21.959 --> 00:50:25.159
of her realm and not, I mean, if you hear her say it, she's like,

00:50:25.239 --> 00:50:26.379
I'm not country, I'm Beyonce.

00:50:26.619 --> 00:50:29.279
And you know what I mean? She's doing her twist on country music,

00:50:29.379 --> 00:50:33.439
but then honoring those like that are part of the movement that you just,

00:50:33.719 --> 00:50:35.659
you know, the Dolly Parton, you know what I mean?

00:50:35.699 --> 00:50:38.379
Being able to give a nod to her and be able to to do that but i

00:50:38.379 --> 00:50:41.039
think that if we just bring our authentic selves to what

00:50:41.039 --> 00:50:44.219
we're doing like i love country music i live in nashville but

00:50:44.219 --> 00:50:48.959
i you know i am a southern girl because i was born in florida so i grew up with

00:50:48.959 --> 00:50:51.959
a little bit of different styles of music but to me it's just like in honor

00:50:51.959 --> 00:50:55.259
of how wonderful the style of music is but i do bring my authenticity to what

00:50:55.259 --> 00:50:59.499
i do i absolutely love that you answered that well you passed the test so thank

00:50:59.499 --> 00:51:02.319
you for that i appreciate it one last time can you tell them where they can

00:51:02.319 --> 00:51:04.159
follow you all the good stuff Absolutely.

00:51:04.419 --> 00:51:08.939
Please follow me on social media at AdasaOfficial, and you can find me on Instagram,

00:51:09.219 --> 00:51:12.979
Twitter, TikTok, all of the good stuff, and Spotify as well.

00:51:13.699 --> 00:51:18.059
All right. Uncle Dad is back hanging out with a superstar, an icon,

00:51:18.679 --> 00:51:21.819
a legend, the one and only Saffron Henderson.

00:51:22.279 --> 00:51:26.319
Saffron, how are you? I'm fine. How are you, legendary Uncle Dad?

00:51:26.519 --> 00:51:29.759
Oh, thank you. I love that. I never get called legendary, so it's kind of nice

00:51:29.759 --> 00:51:33.039
to hear that sometimes. For those who don't know who you are,

00:51:33.359 --> 00:51:36.379
can you tell our audience kind of some of the roles you've been in and what you do?

00:51:36.919 --> 00:51:41.839
Well, I'm a voice actor primarily. I'm also a singer, and I also did some film

00:51:41.839 --> 00:51:43.119
and TV when I was younger.

00:51:43.459 --> 00:51:49.199
The film and TV part is Jason Takes Manhattan, Friday the 13th, Part 8.

00:51:49.379 --> 00:51:53.059
And I was J.J. Jarrett, and I got kilt third.

00:51:53.319 --> 00:51:58.199
I was the third one to get tapped by Jason with my guitar. Yeah.

00:51:58.991 --> 00:52:03.651
Right? So that, the weird thing is people remember that and I barely remember it.

00:52:03.711 --> 00:52:07.731
So I'm like, I was over pretty quickly, but the character is hilarious.

00:52:07.771 --> 00:52:10.531
And the movie itself is kind of goofy.

00:52:11.091 --> 00:52:17.571
So, but voice acting, I don't tend to get maimed or, you know, killed or assaulted.

00:52:17.871 --> 00:52:19.831
Less fun. Less fun. Yeah. Yeah.

00:52:20.571 --> 00:52:24.971
There's like, in cartoons, people don't necessarily die. They just fall over a cliff and go.

00:52:25.211 --> 00:52:30.511
Right, right, right. So, the roles that people identify me with the most are

00:52:30.511 --> 00:52:33.391
the original English dubs of

00:52:33.391 --> 00:52:38.011
Dragon Ball and Dragon Ball Z, and the roles were Kid Goku and Kid Gohan.

00:52:38.571 --> 00:52:42.951
And they're two sweethearts that I can't believe we're still celebrating now.

00:52:43.151 --> 00:52:47.371
We did those way back in the early to mid-90s is when we were recording those,

00:52:47.391 --> 00:52:49.471
and up through, you know, like early 2000s.

00:52:49.751 --> 00:52:51.371
And that's the ocean dub.

00:52:52.171 --> 00:52:55.391
Ocean dubs, you know. Wow. Yeah.

00:52:55.951 --> 00:52:58.651
Wow so when you have these i mean i would

00:52:58.651 --> 00:53:01.871
argue these are legacy characters 100 you know and specifically

00:53:01.871 --> 00:53:04.811
as we're talking about the you know being jj what i

00:53:04.811 --> 00:53:07.471
find about horror the horror audience and people who

00:53:07.471 --> 00:53:12.151
love horror they will never forget their first death you know i'm saying when

00:53:12.151 --> 00:53:15.591
when they've seen like i guarantee you that's i'm sure you know this that's

00:53:15.591 --> 00:53:18.731
so much it's somebody's first horror movie they've ever seen and when they connect

00:53:18.731 --> 00:53:23.511
to it they will never let go and so i think having that legacy of horror it's

00:53:23.511 --> 00:53:26.131
in my opinion it's a little bit more important sometimes because horror is,

00:53:26.371 --> 00:53:28.871
to me, the crowd is so strong.

00:53:29.091 --> 00:53:31.491
I don't know how many horror cons you've done, but they're so strong.

00:53:31.731 --> 00:53:37.511
I'll be honest with you. I went to my first horror con like two weeks ago. Monster?

00:53:38.251 --> 00:53:44.211
Chiller Theater. Chiller, okay. In New Jersey. And I was in Parsippany, New Jersey.

00:53:44.731 --> 00:53:48.491
I was too scared to go to horror con. So for years, people have been messaging

00:53:48.491 --> 00:53:49.451
me and I'm like, nah, nah.

00:53:50.133 --> 00:53:53.073
And like, it's too scary. People are going to be scary. I don't like killer

00:53:53.073 --> 00:53:55.793
clowns. Everybody's going to be really gross. People are going to chase me around

00:53:55.793 --> 00:53:56.953
with an ax. I'm not into it.

00:53:57.413 --> 00:54:03.613
But the funniest thing is they were the nicest people and the kindest people.

00:54:03.953 --> 00:54:09.193
And I had no idea that that many posters for Friday the 13th party were ever printed.

00:54:09.593 --> 00:54:13.453
No, it's crazy. Because, you know, honestly, like I like anime.

00:54:13.613 --> 00:54:15.373
I do. I like video games a lot.

00:54:15.553 --> 00:54:20.253
But horror is my first love. I love horror. And when I meet horror people in

00:54:20.253 --> 00:54:23.573
this industry, they are always the strongest, most kindest people,

00:54:23.613 --> 00:54:25.313
and they will have your back in everything.

00:54:25.713 --> 00:54:28.993
And once you're a fan, like they're a fan of all, you do 10 horror movies and

00:54:28.993 --> 00:54:31.353
nobody watches them, I guarantee you at least one of them did.

00:54:31.633 --> 00:54:35.993
So funny, because that's my only horror movie, but it's a strong link to the

00:54:35.993 --> 00:54:36.973
community, apparently.

00:54:37.333 --> 00:54:41.093
I mean, that movie will always, I mean, that movie's genius to me.

00:54:41.193 --> 00:54:44.013
Like, I love it. And if I remember correctly, that's Kane Hodder too, right?

00:54:44.293 --> 00:54:47.493
Yes, it is. Kane was amazing. He was really nice.

00:54:47.673 --> 00:54:52.733
A wonderful, gentle soul running around with my guitar, chasing me down the

00:54:52.733 --> 00:54:55.153
stairs, and then suddenly appearing at the bottom of the stairs,

00:54:55.313 --> 00:54:56.593
which is impossible. For sure.

00:54:58.373 --> 00:55:03.253
And the grad cruise boat is like on the lake. Now it's in Manhattan.

00:55:03.753 --> 00:55:10.473
There must be some sort of underground waterway. I don't know. It's pretty crazy.

00:55:10.813 --> 00:55:14.693
But would you consider The Fly 2 a horror film, or no?

00:55:15.353 --> 00:55:17.653
I'm going to be honest with you. I've never seen The Fly 2.

00:55:19.113 --> 00:55:22.253
So I have another very important scene.

00:55:22.553 --> 00:55:27.773
I last even a shorter time in that movie than I did in Friday the 13th.

00:55:28.033 --> 00:55:33.153
So gave birth to a larva and died. I know about that scene. That's you? Whoa!

00:55:34.073 --> 00:55:37.733
I've never seen it, but I know that scene. Just because it's always talked about.

00:55:37.913 --> 00:55:39.773
Because it's like the craziest thing ever.

00:55:40.273 --> 00:55:43.173
So what was that experience like?

00:55:43.373 --> 00:55:46.193
It was very funny because I think

00:55:46.193 --> 00:55:49.493
we shot it for a day probably and they

00:55:49.493 --> 00:55:52.573
spent hours and hours on it because I wanted to get it just right

00:55:52.573 --> 00:55:55.373
and okay so I'm sitting in

00:55:55.373 --> 00:55:59.173
a table imagine this I'm sitting in a table they

00:55:59.173 --> 00:56:02.273
have a fake belly going over the table so

00:56:02.273 --> 00:56:05.573
like you can't see me from like the the shoulders

00:56:05.573 --> 00:56:09.073
down or chest down or something it's all yeah probably

00:56:09.073 --> 00:56:12.073
they made like fake fake boobs and fake

00:56:12.073 --> 00:56:15.693
belly and then and fake legs and

00:56:15.693 --> 00:56:18.653
then a guy is under the table under my hollow

00:56:18.653 --> 00:56:21.793
belly with two sticks and he's

00:56:21.793 --> 00:56:24.633
making the belly undulate by making the sticks go up

00:56:24.633 --> 00:56:29.733
and down and like we didn't have cgi we didn't have big special effects this

00:56:29.733 --> 00:56:38.793
was 1988 or 87 even i can't remember and and so she screams and and a little

00:56:38.793 --> 00:56:42.593
larva comes out and the guy the actor said do you know that's the same stuff

00:56:42.593 --> 00:56:44.053
they use in sweet and sour pork.

00:56:46.875 --> 00:56:52.575
I would have been like, don't tell me that, please. I've never had sweet and sour sauce again.

00:56:52.815 --> 00:56:57.135
I believe it. Because that would like make me like just change my thought.

00:56:57.235 --> 00:56:58.755
Like, yeah, I know where that comes from.

00:56:59.515 --> 00:57:04.515
It was so gross. The whole thing was really gross. And then I get up after this.

00:57:05.695 --> 00:57:10.395
I get up after this exhausting scene and I've been screaming and yelling and sweating all day.

00:57:10.395 --> 00:57:15.875
I get up and like with the gross hospital gown, just all sweaty, stuck to me.

00:57:15.875 --> 00:57:18.995
I start i walked toward the door and there's mel brooks

00:57:18.995 --> 00:57:21.815
sitting at the back of the room just he was

00:57:21.815 --> 00:57:24.615
staring it was like staring at the whole thing and i

00:57:24.615 --> 00:57:27.515
was so exhausted i didn't even try to meet him i just walked right

00:57:27.515 --> 00:57:30.775
by him he didn't say anything i didn't say anything i was out of there and i

00:57:30.775 --> 00:57:37.375
was like wow this is my life i love that so you know obviously time is fast

00:57:37.375 --> 00:57:41.635
and you know isn't it always surreal how you know whether it's the anime stuff

00:57:41.635 --> 00:57:45.495
whether it's the horror stuff how your fan base just, they just love it.

00:57:45.715 --> 00:57:48.935
They love it. Meeting you is probably one of their dreams come true.

00:57:49.235 --> 00:57:53.155
What is that experience like still to this day? Well, you know what it's taught

00:57:53.155 --> 00:57:58.415
me is that because I'm still blown away that anyone knows about those roles

00:57:58.415 --> 00:58:02.275
or cares about them or was reached by them.

00:58:02.375 --> 00:58:06.095
Because at the time you just don't know you're doing the work and you're And all that.

00:58:06.515 --> 00:58:13.655
But what it has taught me is you just don't know how far your ripples will go

00:58:13.655 --> 00:58:19.375
when you do something that seems at the time like it might not be that important to anyone else.

00:58:20.015 --> 00:58:24.315
You just don't know who is going to reach, how far the ripples go, how big they are.

00:58:24.315 --> 00:58:28.995
And when I travel around to a convention and I meet someone from like a different

00:58:28.995 --> 00:58:35.475
corner of the continent and they've had an experience with my work, I'm blown away.

00:58:35.595 --> 00:58:40.555
And it makes me never want to minimize an interaction with a person or a piece

00:58:40.555 --> 00:58:42.875
of work that I'm doing or proud of.

00:58:43.095 --> 00:58:45.915
And always remember someone might be reached by what you're doing.

00:58:46.475 --> 00:58:49.175
Right? I love that you said that. That's kind of what we live by too.

00:58:49.175 --> 00:58:52.475
It's like, you just don't know where this is going to go, whether it's your

00:58:52.475 --> 00:58:56.395
acting, voice acting, or even just art. You just don't know,

00:58:56.555 --> 00:58:57.755
right? Like, I love that.

00:58:58.175 --> 00:59:02.115
So do you have anything right now you're working on that you want to talk about or promote at all?

00:59:02.595 --> 00:59:07.935
There's really nothing that I'm allowed to even that happens all the time to us.

00:59:08.735 --> 00:59:13.995
And half the stuff that we work on might not even see the light of day, but we're under NDA.

00:59:14.635 --> 00:59:18.835
I'm just basically working as a voice actor, which I love.

00:59:19.175 --> 00:59:23.155
And I teach voice students as well, like who are into voiceover,

00:59:23.375 --> 00:59:24.815
which takes a lot of time.

00:59:24.975 --> 00:59:29.215
And I get to work on video games, you know, helping in voice production for

00:59:29.215 --> 00:59:31.335
video games. So that's been fun.

00:59:31.495 --> 00:59:34.415
Yeah. I love that. Are you a gamer yourself, actually?

00:59:36.475 --> 00:59:39.415
That's okay wait i fall off rainbow road in

00:59:39.415 --> 00:59:43.795
mario kart okay so no so

00:59:43.795 --> 00:59:46.575
no skills no skills hey but you have a good time that's

00:59:46.575 --> 00:59:49.555
all that matters you know i i used to walk downstairs and

00:59:49.555 --> 00:59:53.135
yell at my children for playing cod you know get off

00:59:53.135 --> 00:59:56.055
your you're wasting our internet

00:59:56.055 --> 00:59:59.075
turn off the swears i love

00:59:59.075 --> 01:00:01.915
that i love that before i wrap up i did want to ask

01:00:01.915 --> 01:00:04.655
you a question but i'm a little worried about the answer because i have a feeling i know where

01:00:04.655 --> 01:00:07.635
it's going to go so i'm just going to ask because you're you're

01:00:07.635 --> 01:00:10.755
you know in such a a legacy horror movie

01:00:10.755 --> 01:00:14.235
and i'm a horror fan i have to know what

01:00:14.235 --> 01:00:19.595
are your top three horror movies of all time again i think i knew where this

01:00:19.595 --> 01:00:23.415
was going to go okay i will share with you which i've shared with many people

01:00:23.415 --> 01:00:28.475
that i did crawl out of the premiere of friday the 13th part eight after my

01:00:28.475 --> 01:00:31.415
character was killed off because i didn't know how the rest of it was going

01:00:31.415 --> 01:00:33.955
to go and I was terrified. So I left.

01:00:34.455 --> 01:00:37.715
Like I just left. I don't know. Did I ever have the whole script for the whole

01:00:37.715 --> 01:00:39.215
show? Probably not. I didn't even care.

01:00:39.715 --> 01:00:45.175
But I was like, oh, and I as soon as JJ was killed, I realized this could be scary. So I crawled out.

01:00:46.015 --> 01:00:51.955
But I will tell you, my cousin, rest in peace, used to drag us to her birthday

01:00:51.955 --> 01:00:55.735
sleepovers to watch horror movies at her house.

01:00:56.875 --> 01:00:59.495
And the one that broke me and made me never want to

01:00:59.495 --> 01:01:03.095
watch a horror movie ever again was children of the corn children

01:01:03.095 --> 01:01:05.995
of the corn whoa that's not

01:01:05.995 --> 01:01:08.755
even that i mean that's it's not that i feel

01:01:08.755 --> 01:01:12.115
like during that time there was definitely more aggressive horror movies no but it

01:01:12.115 --> 01:01:15.215
was deeply disturbing oh it's just super disturbing and i

01:01:15.215 --> 01:01:19.035
might have had a little chucky moment like i that again

01:01:19.035 --> 01:01:22.275
just really disturbing and like yeah maybe there

01:01:22.275 --> 01:01:25.635
was a little bit of oh what's the one with what's

01:01:25.635 --> 01:01:28.555
the one where she comes up off the bed or is she not the exorcist

01:01:28.555 --> 01:01:31.235
yeah the exorcist okay i read the exorcist see

01:01:31.235 --> 01:01:33.895
that i read the books i read flowers in the

01:01:33.895 --> 01:01:39.635
attic i read the exorcist i read like carrie i read that stuff and it scared

01:01:39.635 --> 01:01:44.235
the key rap out of me i couldn't watch it like when i watch something scary

01:01:44.235 --> 01:01:48.635
i go home and i feel scared for like a month well then that means horror horror

01:01:48.635 --> 01:01:53.595
works and i love it so i'm just really fast i want to touch something you brought flowers in the attic.

01:01:53.875 --> 01:01:59.755
I have not heard somebody reference that book in ages. And the fact that you just did, awesome.

01:02:00.115 --> 01:02:03.995
It was probably written in the 18th century or something, but I do remember

01:02:03.995 --> 01:02:05.935
reading it. I totally remember that.

01:02:06.155 --> 01:02:12.095
In today's standard too, it's a very controversial book. So I think it's amazing

01:02:12.095 --> 01:02:13.075
that you read that. That's awesome.

01:02:13.355 --> 01:02:15.495
Yeah. Yeah. But-

01:02:16.088 --> 01:02:18.608
Where can our audience learn more about you and connect with you?

01:02:18.708 --> 01:02:23.148
All that good stuff. Oh, on Instagram, on Instagram.

01:02:23.888 --> 01:02:29.708
I'm on Tik TOK as well, but I mean, I do try to stay engaged with people. I have a small account.

01:02:30.048 --> 01:02:34.548
So, you know, if you follow me and hopefully we'll get to interact and stuff like that.

01:02:34.688 --> 01:02:40.568
And I just like, I love coming to obviously to conventions and signings and stuff like that.

01:02:40.748 --> 01:02:44.048
And getting to actually meet people that has been really fun.

01:02:44.568 --> 01:02:48.008
Yeah. So I'll see you around, right? Yeah, yeah, for sure.

01:02:48.668 --> 01:02:53.648
Can you just tell them what the name of the account is? Oh, yeah. I am Saffron.voice.

01:02:54.648 --> 01:02:57.448
Easy, easy. Especially with that voice, so easy. I love it.

01:02:57.948 --> 01:03:00.888
Saffron, thank you. You were such a delight to talk to. I don't think I ever

01:03:00.888 --> 01:03:04.808
could have imagined speaking to one of my favorite deaths of all time. I'm not lying.

01:03:05.788 --> 01:03:09.128
The whole time, I was like, I know I know that. Where is that?

01:03:09.388 --> 01:03:11.208
And then it hit me, and I was like, and he goes, oh, yeah.

01:03:11.928 --> 01:03:15.148
Ming Chen's a friend of mine as well. And he goes, yeah, that's the one that

01:03:15.148 --> 01:03:18.668
got killed. He goes, I think I'm Manhattan. And I was like, I knew it.

01:03:19.328 --> 01:03:22.368
Yeah. That really meant the world. Let me give you a present.

01:03:22.488 --> 01:03:28.068
Oh, thank you. What she gave me, everybody, was an awesome, a very just as beautiful

01:03:28.068 --> 01:03:32.128
saffron from, what era would this be? 1980, right?

01:03:32.328 --> 01:03:36.768
We shot in 1988, and it was released in 89.

01:03:37.108 --> 01:03:41.308
That's right. And that's J.J. Jarrett. Yes. With her fully crimped hair.

01:03:41.488 --> 01:03:43.268
Yes. And her little leather jacket.

01:03:43.728 --> 01:03:46.588
Look at that do you still have the jacket i'm so

01:03:46.588 --> 01:03:49.348
embarrassed to say i had it for a long time and i

01:03:49.348 --> 01:03:52.208
don't know what happened oh bummer that's like

01:03:52.208 --> 01:03:56.068
history man at the time i was just like what am i gonna do with this yeah whatever

01:03:56.068 --> 01:03:59.688
right thank you so samran thank you so much it was an absolute pleasure and

01:03:59.688 --> 01:04:04.688
everybody please go support your your favorite your favorites doesn't matter

01:04:04.688 --> 01:04:08.888
who it is just go support because without each other who are we as humans we

01:04:08.888 --> 01:04:10.588
need to help each other so So thank you.

01:04:10.848 --> 01:04:12.968
Thank you so much. Thank you. It was a pleasure.

01:04:15.017 --> 01:04:18.857
Yo, what up? This is Jesse Hernandez, the Urban Aztec, and you're listening

01:04:18.857 --> 01:04:21.737
to Uncle Dad Talks, not your mama.

01:04:23.977 --> 01:04:27.737
What's up, everybody? Uncle Dad here, hanging out with confirmed,

01:04:28.137 --> 01:04:32.417
tarot card confirmed, the sexiest one out of us two.

01:04:33.037 --> 01:04:38.197
That's right. We are with Just Mike, or should I say Just Sexy Mike? What's up, man?

01:04:39.617 --> 01:04:42.717
Is that going to be my new moniker, Just Sexy Mike?

01:04:43.797 --> 01:04:49.577
I don't know i don't know if i want that what was that like getting confirmed.

01:04:51.137 --> 01:04:53.977
I mean you know i guess it's just it probably

01:04:53.977 --> 01:04:56.877
is what it's like when you get verified on social media it just

01:04:56.877 --> 01:05:00.357
means it's you're locked in you know

01:05:00.357 --> 01:05:03.157
i mean just that's what it's probably feels just like

01:05:03.157 --> 01:05:07.297
that whatever that feels like for those

01:05:07.297 --> 01:05:10.557
who don't know what i'm talking about go to our instagram please go

01:05:10.557 --> 01:05:13.337
to our instagram please give us a follow at uncle dad

01:05:13.337 --> 01:05:16.217
talks and if you do you will see one of

01:05:16.217 --> 01:05:19.637
our guests karina betker she is

01:05:19.637 --> 01:05:22.977
a voice actor also a a i

01:05:22.977 --> 01:05:25.897
shouldn't say she i'm sorry her pronouns are they them my correction

01:05:25.897 --> 01:05:29.577
they are a tarot reader

01:05:29.577 --> 01:05:32.517
i guess you would say and they did a read for me

01:05:32.517 --> 01:05:36.957
and i wanted to ask a very specific question because the audience wanted to

01:05:36.957 --> 01:05:44.197
know so they found out the audience was everyone was just hanging on the edge

01:05:44.197 --> 01:05:49.937
of their seat for for some time to know this exactly exactly exactly you know you know what's up,

01:05:50.557 --> 01:05:57.877
the the requests were just flooding in for this answer couldn't handle the amount of uh intake.

01:05:59.097 --> 01:06:02.957
Exactly exactly and that's why the universe said my

01:06:02.957 --> 01:06:06.537
captain is sexier than uncle dad maybe physically

01:06:06.537 --> 01:06:10.697
but internally boy i know

01:06:10.697 --> 01:06:14.217
well that's a different question for another topic for another time as they

01:06:14.217 --> 01:06:18.957
say exactly so mike what we're talking about is this wrap-up for this episode

01:06:18.957 --> 01:06:22.317
everybody just heard all the great interviews we did we were hanging out at

01:06:22.317 --> 01:06:26.737
a comic-con that i kept messing the name up and i kept doing it on purpose and

01:06:26.737 --> 01:06:29.957
that con i'm gonna to reveal is FandomCon.

01:06:30.437 --> 01:06:37.857
And Mike, I just, help me explain this because I never want to disparage a company

01:06:37.857 --> 01:06:39.497
or a brand or anything like that.

01:06:39.697 --> 01:06:47.337
But honestly, man, this thing was so horribly organized and the amount of.

01:06:48.563 --> 01:06:51.643
I don't how do you just i don't want to say failure but like

01:06:51.643 --> 01:06:54.583
i'm trying to find a way to not say that so aggressively

01:06:54.583 --> 01:06:57.563
i mean just let it fly man

01:06:57.563 --> 01:07:00.303
just let it go chances are if it was that bad it

01:07:00.303 --> 01:07:03.163
won't be back so it's probably

01:07:03.163 --> 01:07:06.003
safe all right well i'll just tell you this man this

01:07:06.003 --> 01:07:08.703
is the most unprofessional con i've ever been to in my

01:07:08.703 --> 01:07:12.143
entire career doing doing press and being

01:07:12.143 --> 01:07:15.023
a con attender and maybe maybe it would have been a little different but just

01:07:15.023 --> 01:07:17.923
being somebody who's worked in press and doing this for a while now and

01:07:17.923 --> 01:07:21.343
you know i know you're a veteran in this we're doing it for 20 plus years so

01:07:21.343 --> 01:07:24.683
let me explain to you my experience and you tell me your thoughts what do you

01:07:24.683 --> 01:07:29.763
think well let's go so mike was not there because mike was taking care of some

01:07:29.763 --> 01:07:35.263
puerto rican babies in the rainforest am i correct yeah i mean we weren't supposed

01:07:35.263 --> 01:07:39.723
to talk about that but now the world knows so yes i was taking that's exactly what i was doing.

01:07:43.823 --> 01:07:46.823
So phantom con starts off on a friday this

01:07:46.823 --> 01:07:50.343
past friday and it's in san jose california and

01:07:50.343 --> 01:07:54.183
you know we have a good friend attending you know we became much closer this

01:07:54.183 --> 01:07:57.463
weekend but we have a good friend named ming chen who's also on the show we

01:07:57.463 --> 01:08:02.123
just heard big fan of kevin smith convict man you know he's he's technically

01:08:02.123 --> 01:08:05.783
kind of been in and out of our entire podcast career for the past five years

01:08:05.783 --> 01:08:09.923
so you know it's very fortunate we know because if i didn't know this guy,

01:08:10.623 --> 01:08:14.463
we would have got nothing and we would have been just completely left in the

01:08:14.463 --> 01:08:19.263
cold so let me explain we walk up the first thing you ask anytime getting your

01:08:19.263 --> 01:08:24.223
ticket is what hey where's the press sign up right where's press registration

01:08:24.223 --> 01:08:28.083
i'm trying to get my press badge multiple people looked at me like,

01:08:28.743 --> 01:08:34.203
what is a press badge what are you talking about i've never even heard of a badge which is insane,

01:08:35.243 --> 01:08:39.023
So then I, there's this woman who looks professional.

01:08:39.243 --> 01:08:43.863
She tells me, Hey, you're also looking for a press badge. Who did you speak to?

01:08:44.323 --> 01:08:51.303
So I got, I got approved by a guy and I'm going to name him because boy, his name is booster.

01:08:52.983 --> 01:08:56.943
Like rooster. Yes, but he boosted me, if you will.

01:08:58.683 --> 01:09:02.343
And he allegedly gave me.

01:09:02.756 --> 01:09:08.296
Me and another person waiting for press badge approval, but never followed up on the secondary.

01:09:08.796 --> 01:09:11.316
Now, usually in this world of press, to give people a backstage look,

01:09:11.796 --> 01:09:14.916
usually there's always the initial, hey, we can give you this. Do you want it?

01:09:15.276 --> 01:09:17.536
And then they give you, you say yes or no. And then they say,

01:09:17.676 --> 01:09:19.236
okay. And they give you the confirmation.

01:09:19.656 --> 01:09:22.336
Now, they didn't give us the confirmation. But in my experience,

01:09:22.616 --> 01:09:27.256
when you're told, yeah, we have passes waiting for you, that usually is kind of all you need.

01:09:27.616 --> 01:09:31.136
So when I went there and we're waiting, they couldn't find us.

01:09:31.376 --> 01:09:34.416
They couldn't find anybody. that couldn't nobody knew who booster was

01:09:34.416 --> 01:09:37.796
like booster right and

01:09:37.796 --> 01:09:43.036
well and mind you the guy who owns it his name is galaxy that's

01:09:43.036 --> 01:09:45.816
not even a joke are these burning man names or like

01:09:45.816 --> 01:09:48.796
actual names no because burning man people would actually care

01:09:48.796 --> 01:09:52.996
yeah yeah okay so

01:09:52.996 --> 01:09:56.436
she leaves and i'm not kidding you mike she's

01:09:56.436 --> 01:10:00.136
gone literally for almost two hours and we're

01:10:00.136 --> 01:10:03.236
just sitting out in the cold waiting because they're not letting people in their

01:10:03.236 --> 01:10:05.956
computer systems broke down there's a line from the

01:10:05.956 --> 01:10:09.056
opening of you've been the san jose convention center so the front

01:10:09.056 --> 01:10:11.956
of the san jose convention center all the way to the sidewalk there's a

01:10:11.956 --> 01:10:16.456
never-ending line because they can't check anybody in not even attendees anybody

01:10:16.456 --> 01:10:20.296
not even attendees yeah they just can't because they had no system i guess which

01:10:20.296 --> 01:10:24.296
makes no sense to me but that's a different story so i'm waiting i'm talking

01:10:24.296 --> 01:10:25.376
to this other person they were

01:10:25.376 --> 01:10:30.356
great they were really really awesome and finally this guy comes down.

01:10:31.236 --> 01:10:36.016
Slender, tall, white guy, seems to think he knows everything because immediately

01:10:36.016 --> 01:10:39.616
when he tells me, first thing he says to me is, what are you doing here?

01:10:39.736 --> 01:10:41.256
What's your thing? What do you want?

01:10:41.556 --> 01:10:46.256
And I go, okay, we're just waiting for press. Me and this gentleman here,

01:10:46.316 --> 01:10:48.516
we're waiting here for a while. What's going on?

01:10:49.056 --> 01:10:52.136
Can you please, well, we don't have press here. And I was like,

01:10:52.236 --> 01:10:55.716
well, that doesn't make any sense because I have an email verifying that I was.

01:10:56.617 --> 01:10:59.337
Accepted for this and also it even says on

01:10:59.337 --> 01:11:02.577
your website that you have press registration so why would you not have press

01:11:02.577 --> 01:11:05.257
well who gave it to you and there i said the name and they

01:11:05.257 --> 01:11:08.157
go we don't know a booster i don't know who that is and i

01:11:08.157 --> 01:11:11.657
go okay well i have verification of

01:11:11.657 --> 01:11:15.197
these emails and then the other guy had emails shows them and

01:11:15.197 --> 01:11:17.977
he goes well i don't know what you're i don't know what you guys want for me so

01:11:17.977 --> 01:11:20.677
let me go see and he disappears so that's already a bad

01:11:20.677 --> 01:11:23.377
start so just that part alone what do

01:11:23.377 --> 01:11:26.277
you think about that mike well yeah i mean first of

01:11:26.277 --> 01:11:29.317
all the way he approached you like what do you what who

01:11:29.317 --> 01:11:32.237
are you what do you need like what are you what are

01:11:32.237 --> 01:11:36.557
you doing here what i mean i don't know very welcoming

01:11:36.557 --> 01:11:42.537
yeah that's that's exactly how if you are a new con how you would approach how

01:11:42.537 --> 01:11:47.657
you would approach people sounds totally great as a new convention yes yes good

01:11:47.657 --> 01:11:54.517
job that guy so slender man it's all slender man right so but before he laughs,

01:11:54.597 --> 01:11:56.097
one of the comments that stood out to me, he goes,

01:11:56.497 --> 01:11:58.777
you know, I told him, I go, you know, I'm not trying to make a big deal about it.

01:11:58.857 --> 01:12:02.017
Just, you know, I live here so it's, you know, I can leave. It's not that big a deal.

01:12:02.477 --> 01:12:07.477
But I go, this person came all the way from Sacramento and bought a hotel for the weekend, you know?

01:12:08.117 --> 01:12:11.917
And he goes, I get it. I get it. I work in press too. I work for food and wine.

01:12:13.437 --> 01:12:18.297
Okay. What is that? Right. Like if you, okay, so you get it,

01:12:18.457 --> 01:12:20.057
but we're still out here. Okay. Whatever.

01:12:20.317 --> 01:12:23.657
Yeah. And you're, and you're, and you're approaching us in this tone when you

01:12:23.657 --> 01:12:24.957
know we're out here waiting for press.

01:12:25.877 --> 01:12:29.937
Exactly. Like, get out of here. So he leaves. And then, mind you,

01:12:29.977 --> 01:12:31.737
this whole time I'm texting with Ming Chen.

01:12:32.097 --> 01:12:35.577
And he's asking me, he goes, what's the problem? What's taking so long? And I go, dude.

01:12:35.677 --> 01:12:38.097
And I explained everything to him. And he was like, all right,

01:12:38.177 --> 01:12:40.577
man, if he's not there in a few minutes, I'm just going to come get you.

01:12:40.757 --> 01:12:43.677
Now, again, if I didn't know Ming Chen, I wouldn't be in, right?

01:12:43.777 --> 01:12:47.277
And I'm thankful that I do. And that was very kind of Ming to help us out.

01:12:48.057 --> 01:12:51.037
But the guy comes back and Ming just walks in.

01:12:51.717 --> 01:12:56.277
Now, I'm not kidding you, dude. He looks at me and he looks at Ming and he tells

01:12:56.277 --> 01:13:01.017
Ming and me specifically looking at Ming first saying, you know, you guys can't come in.

01:13:01.177 --> 01:13:04.917
So what we're going to do is we completely banned press. So I'm only going to

01:13:04.917 --> 01:13:07.417
offer you just a free Friday badge. That's all I can do.

01:13:07.577 --> 01:13:12.137
And Ming goes, I'm the guest here. He didn't even know that that was the guest.

01:13:14.437 --> 01:13:17.877
Wow. Okay. So then what happens?

01:13:19.077 --> 01:13:23.317
So he goes, and now he's telling me and the other guy that was also waiting.

01:13:23.477 --> 01:13:26.417
Now that guy's upset because he's like, well, that's not fair.

01:13:26.497 --> 01:13:27.397
It's very misleading because...

01:13:28.296 --> 01:13:31.256
I came from Sacramento. He has a crew of two more people with him.

01:13:31.696 --> 01:13:36.036
So they'll give him one badge for Friday. Now, mind you, Friday is from 5 to

01:13:36.036 --> 01:13:38.476
11 p.m. At this point, it's already 7 o'clock.

01:13:38.916 --> 01:13:42.196
So how much time is that guy really going to get, right? And secondly,

01:13:42.816 --> 01:13:45.816
his other team, he wouldn't give him a discount or nothing.

01:13:46.056 --> 01:13:49.196
So he had to buy tickets. And he goes, well, I'm not going to pay for that if

01:13:49.196 --> 01:13:51.796
I can't even get interviews. Because then he says, you guys can come in.

01:13:52.876 --> 01:13:59.056
The Slenderman says, you guys can come in, but you cannot, absolutely not interview

01:13:59.056 --> 01:14:03.616
anyone because press is banned from this event. Hmm.

01:14:04.276 --> 01:14:08.576
Banned? Yeah. And then Ming goes, what do you mean banned? He goes,

01:14:08.896 --> 01:14:10.936
I don't know. I can't talk about it. So nope, no interviews.

01:14:11.136 --> 01:14:12.196
That's it. Nope, no interviews.

01:14:12.736 --> 01:14:16.056
He goes, so this is all I got for you. And then the other, and again,

01:14:16.256 --> 01:14:19.456
you know, Ming came, he gave me a whole, a whole like, you know, guest pass.

01:14:20.816 --> 01:14:23.856
So I just left and I could hear the other guy talking to him and the other guy

01:14:23.856 --> 01:14:27.516
goes, well, can I change it for a Friday to Saturday? Can I at least do that?

01:14:27.936 --> 01:14:31.636
And he says, nope, this is all I got for you. That's it.

01:14:32.596 --> 01:14:37.076
And so, you know, Ming takes me in and Ming is telling me too,

01:14:37.236 --> 01:14:40.156
like, and he knows I'm talking about this because I told him I was going to talk about it.

01:14:40.476 --> 01:14:46.716
And Ming goes, it's crazy. I've never heard of a con. Your first con, why would you ban press?

01:14:47.416 --> 01:14:50.676
Yeah. Like, why don't you want people to know about this con? Like,

01:14:50.756 --> 01:14:56.076
I've never even heard this con existed until you said you were there and

01:14:56.076 --> 01:14:59.196
so the thing is too right it's like and he actually had

01:14:59.196 --> 01:15:02.856
a great point he goes they didn't you didn't have a story right well guess what

01:15:02.856 --> 01:15:07.316
now you have a story to tell and it's not the story they want out you know what

01:15:07.316 --> 01:15:11.136
i mean and i'm like you totally like why would you treat people one why would

01:15:11.136 --> 01:15:14.636
you treat people like that in general and two you know these people have some

01:15:14.636 --> 01:15:16.896
sort of press representation so why would you,

01:15:17.816 --> 01:15:20.736
know no matter if it's a big circle or a little circle right word

01:15:20.736 --> 01:15:23.656
always gets around why would you do that so anyways that was

01:15:23.656 --> 01:15:26.456
my initial walk-in i'm very curious

01:15:26.456 --> 01:15:33.136
about your overall thoughts on this well you know i my my my initial thought

01:15:33.136 --> 01:15:38.956
is that you know whoever you were speaking to dropped the ball at some point

01:15:38.956 --> 01:15:44.336
and so this guy like they probably don't have any credentials to offer you.

01:15:44.936 --> 01:15:47.796
It's a new convention. Like I said, I've never even heard of it,

01:15:47.856 --> 01:15:50.556
so there probably isn't a lot of people applying for press.

01:15:50.656 --> 01:15:53.336
You said there was one other dude? Yeah. So...

01:15:54.466 --> 01:15:56.906
They probably don't have anything to offer you. So this guy is just trying to

01:15:56.906 --> 01:15:59.986
come up with a way to give you something to get rid of you.

01:16:00.366 --> 01:16:03.386
Sure. You know, and he's putting up the hard, the hard wall.

01:16:03.606 --> 01:16:07.206
Nope. That's all I got for you. That's all I got, you know, and like leaves

01:16:07.206 --> 01:16:10.726
a zero opening for a conversation to go from there, you know? Yeah.

01:16:11.606 --> 01:16:14.746
And I mean, obviously that's, that's horrible customer service.

01:16:14.886 --> 01:16:18.346
That's a horrible way to represent your brand, you know, but I,

01:16:18.346 --> 01:16:20.566
I do, I just think it's, it's, it's a mess.

01:16:20.766 --> 01:16:23.686
If it's a first time convention, I don't know if these people put on a convention

01:16:23.686 --> 01:16:29.726
somewhere else under a different name but it's yeah but it sounds like it just sounds like completely.

01:16:30.866 --> 01:16:33.686
Disorganization oh totally and my thing was like could you imagine

01:16:33.686 --> 01:16:36.426
you know mike like like you you know you you're currently based in

01:16:36.426 --> 01:16:39.766
northern california right we're talking about sack all time you came

01:16:39.766 --> 01:16:42.426
down here and you got a hotel room just to you know to help me out and be part

01:16:42.426 --> 01:16:46.326
of this or help each other out right you'd be fucking livid wouldn't you well

01:16:46.326 --> 01:16:51.266
you know yeah and hotels in san jose aren't cheap and you know you drive down

01:16:51.266 --> 01:16:55.466
from from you know it's it's it's over a couple hours to drive from sacramento

01:16:55.466 --> 01:16:59.646
to san jose yeah i don't i wouldn't just take that and,

01:17:00.226 --> 01:17:03.126
and then leave like i would i don't

01:17:03.126 --> 01:17:05.966
know i don't know you know you never know what you're gonna do till you're in

01:17:05.966 --> 01:17:08.906
the situation yourself but i don't

01:17:08.906 --> 01:17:11.486
think i would just take tall slender man's that's all

01:17:11.486 --> 01:17:14.206
i got for you is one friday pass you know

01:17:14.206 --> 01:17:17.026
you're not gonna get what are you gonna get from 7 to 11 on

01:17:17.026 --> 01:17:20.066
a friday anyway probably not especially if

01:17:20.066 --> 01:17:23.066
they say you can't interview anybody like why why is

01:17:23.066 --> 01:17:25.846
press banned you know who is this person on my

01:17:25.846 --> 01:17:28.626
email like yeah that's just that

01:17:28.626 --> 01:17:32.646
sounds disgusting dude and it's also weird too how are you guys not aware of

01:17:32.646 --> 01:17:38.186
who this person is like he has an official it's an official fandom fandom con

01:17:38.186 --> 01:17:43.506
email so why would he not how do you not know right how do you not know yeah

01:17:43.506 --> 01:17:46.766
you know and so they're owned by a company called Spoiler Media,

01:17:46.986 --> 01:17:49.546
and for those who go to Comic-Con all the time like we do.

01:17:50.206 --> 01:17:53.646
San Diego Comic-Con I'm speaking of, they always have a group of people walking

01:17:53.646 --> 01:17:55.206
the streets handing out free magazines.

01:17:55.486 --> 01:17:58.726
I don't know if you've ever seen that before, but it's always a free magazine,

01:17:58.926 --> 01:18:00.166
like some comic book magazine.

01:18:00.706 --> 01:18:04.346
That's their magazine that they always hand out. Okay. I don't know.

01:18:05.126 --> 01:18:08.666
I'm looking at them right now while you're talking about them,

01:18:08.686 --> 01:18:11.986
because honestly, I have never heard of these guys ever. Yeah.

01:18:13.181 --> 01:18:15.601
And there's something wrong with being a new con, right? We all have to start

01:18:15.601 --> 01:18:18.881
somewhere. Yeah, but the whole thing was ridiculous.

01:18:19.121 --> 01:18:22.981
And so what we ended up finding out, the word around the street was the reasoning

01:18:22.981 --> 01:18:28.381
why we were getting denied or Prescott denied, allegedly, is because it's a

01:18:28.381 --> 01:18:30.461
union thing. What does it mean?

01:18:31.341 --> 01:18:34.841
That's literally the only answer I've been told. A union thing?

01:18:35.481 --> 01:18:39.101
But it doesn't even make sense because, let's say, because there is technically

01:18:39.101 --> 01:18:40.781
a video game strike happening right now, right?

01:18:40.781 --> 01:18:44.021
But even still even if that's the case you could

01:18:44.021 --> 01:18:46.981
still do press there because you would cover the event do you

01:18:46.981 --> 01:18:50.441
know what i'm saying you wouldn't cover you wouldn't do interviews but you could cover the actual

01:18:50.441 --> 01:18:53.101
con you could talk about the experience of the con and then you could

01:18:53.101 --> 01:18:55.881
also even interview like small press right like you know like the

01:18:55.881 --> 01:18:58.841
small time artist sure yeah i mean

01:18:58.841 --> 01:19:02.501
there's still opportunity okay yeah i

01:19:02.501 --> 01:19:09.181
i don't know how that would if there's a video game strike well on video game

01:19:09.181 --> 01:19:16.281
developers well the voice actors they're on strike yes okay so remember how

01:19:16.281 --> 01:19:19.081
there was they were like that strike when we went to the san diego comic-con,

01:19:19.621 --> 01:19:28.001
yeah yeah same thing okay so you just don't talk to the video game people exactly that's it right.

01:19:29.081 --> 01:19:32.641
That has nothing to do with press being banned it means this is

01:19:32.641 --> 01:19:37.681
happening we're not talking to these people okay exactly that's it cool that's

01:19:37.681 --> 01:19:43.621
it yeah right like okay fine we can make something work right so insane but

01:19:43.621 --> 01:19:47.061
i just got to say this and i there's another story i want to share with you

01:19:47.061 --> 01:19:51.021
before we wrap up but the next but the next thing i want to say just huge thank you to ming,

01:19:51.501 --> 01:19:54.261
because really if it wasn't for his kindness and for him being a part

01:19:54.261 --> 01:19:56.981
of our our show and our alumni and him being

01:19:56.981 --> 01:19:59.761
so into what we do honestly i would

01:19:59.761 --> 01:20:02.581
have gotten nothing and because of the connections that we made through him

01:20:02.581 --> 01:20:06.061
we were able to get four phenomenal interviews uh one

01:20:06.061 --> 01:20:09.461
is from a a massive colombian pop star and

01:20:09.461 --> 01:20:13.121
in one of the biggest movies of current time and canto you know what i mean

01:20:13.121 --> 01:20:17.041
i never would have thought we would get her on so that's amazing right you know

01:20:17.041 --> 01:20:22.021
right and who i'm talking about is adasa who plays dolores in a canto and for

01:20:22.021 --> 01:20:26.641
those who don't know i mean she averages about 2.4 million plays monthly on

01:20:26.641 --> 01:20:28.781
uh spotify it's pretty crazy right, Mike?

01:20:29.601 --> 01:20:34.521
Yeah. That's a lot. That's a lot. Well, good. I mean, yeah. Shout out to me. I, you.

01:20:35.624 --> 01:20:39.144
I actually wasn't dealing with Puerto Rican babies in the forest.

01:20:39.264 --> 01:20:40.244
Is that what you said I was doing?

01:20:40.884 --> 01:20:45.584
The Amazon. Something. I was working an event. You know, I do have to work.

01:20:45.944 --> 01:20:49.364
I wish I was there to experience this calamity with you. But yeah,

01:20:49.664 --> 01:20:50.984
thanks. Thanks, Ming, for sure.

01:20:51.564 --> 01:20:56.044
Yeah, he really helped out for that. But there's one last story about all this weekend.

01:20:56.244 --> 01:21:00.244
Two stories, actually. The first one is, again, going back how shitty the con is.

01:21:01.064 --> 01:21:03.824
So there's nobody there. This whole weekend was empty, right?

01:21:03.924 --> 01:21:05.704
Like, there's barely anybody. But you've been to those cons,

01:21:05.744 --> 01:21:08.344
and there's like nobody there, right? I was going to ask what the attendance

01:21:08.344 --> 01:21:09.904
was like. Oh, it was horrible.

01:21:11.024 --> 01:21:16.924
It was horrible. And they had Ming in the very farthest corner imaginable in

01:21:16.924 --> 01:21:17.944
this convention center.

01:21:18.824 --> 01:21:22.564
I wonder why. Why would you do that to your guests? Exactly.

01:21:23.044 --> 01:21:26.944
Because they pay for the guests to come. So why would you do that to them?

01:21:27.084 --> 01:21:29.444
Well, you would think so. Oh.

01:21:30.704 --> 01:21:34.224
So something happened during the event that kind of gave us some light.

01:21:34.584 --> 01:21:38.684
So, you know, Ming's not really making any money, right? And he knows that they're

01:21:38.684 --> 01:21:41.604
supposed to pay him or something, but he didn't really know what was going to happen.

01:21:42.284 --> 01:21:45.044
And so he's kind of doing his thing. He's like, well, fuck it.

01:21:45.104 --> 01:21:46.784
I'm not really making any money, so let's have some good times,

01:21:46.824 --> 01:21:49.884
right? So he left. He would leave, talk to people, and schmooze.

01:21:50.204 --> 01:21:54.664
Be Ming Chen, right? We all know Ming Chen's the smoozer, which is awesome.

01:21:56.844 --> 01:22:00.604
So he comes back, and I see him later, and I'm hanging out with him,

01:22:00.604 --> 01:22:05.964
And he goes, the owner, Galaxy, reached out to somebody that's representing

01:22:05.964 --> 01:22:11.544
him saying, hey, can you please tell Ming to go back to his table because people are asking for him?

01:22:11.764 --> 01:22:16.384
And Ming goes, who the fuck is asking for me? There's nobody here.

01:22:18.824 --> 01:22:22.864
Yeah, right. There's nobody asking. He goes, you know why they're doing that

01:22:22.864 --> 01:22:25.464
is because he's going to use that against me to not pay me.

01:22:26.364 --> 01:22:30.384
Ah, right. You weren't at your table. People were there asking for you.

01:22:30.604 --> 01:22:34.744
Exactly well yeah because i'm sure there's a guarantee right like you get a

01:22:34.744 --> 01:22:39.964
guest either you pay them to show up or you give them a guarantee yeah.

01:22:40.891 --> 01:22:45.591
Or you at least just pay for their, their way, you know, which I know that part

01:22:45.591 --> 01:22:47.391
was, that was paid for. That's why he came.

01:22:48.071 --> 01:22:53.011
But, uh, you know, I think, I think it kind of sounded like the money was going

01:22:53.011 --> 01:22:54.231
to come from the attendance, right?

01:22:54.491 --> 01:22:57.331
But there was no real attendance. So where would that money come from? Right.

01:22:57.931 --> 01:23:02.211
Well, yeah. Right. I mean, the, the vendors, you know, the exhibitors that pay

01:23:02.211 --> 01:23:04.291
to be there, there's, I'm sure there's an artist alley,

01:23:04.471 --> 01:23:07.111
they pay to be there, you know, and so that a lot

01:23:07.111 --> 01:23:09.811
of that just goes straight to paying for the venue which i know that

01:23:09.811 --> 01:23:12.571
the convention center in san jose isn't a cheap

01:23:12.571 --> 01:23:15.531
venue you know i know you do like

01:23:15.531 --> 01:23:18.231
even if you are an exhibitor there you have to

01:23:18.231 --> 01:23:21.431
use i think we talked about this in the past you

01:23:21.431 --> 01:23:24.071
have to use the union to load in your

01:23:24.071 --> 01:23:26.851
stuff yeah and you have to pay them and you don't find

01:23:26.851 --> 01:23:29.771
that out till you get there yeah yeah and

01:23:29.771 --> 01:23:32.791
so if there's no tickets though yeah there's there's

01:23:32.791 --> 01:23:35.471
no money yeah and and that was

01:23:35.471 --> 01:23:38.831
the thing like you could see it on the exhibitors

01:23:38.831 --> 01:23:41.671
you can see it in this dude i felt so bad there was one woman

01:23:41.671 --> 01:23:45.031
there who was in the what'd you call it artist alley she came

01:23:45.031 --> 01:23:51.471
all the way from vancouver dude on her own dime and i can imagine she didn't

01:23:51.471 --> 01:23:55.831
do that well i mean the whole thing was just a mess man and you know i've been

01:23:55.831 --> 01:23:58.391
asked multiple times about other talent like if i was going to talk about it

01:23:58.391 --> 01:24:03.191
on air and i was like you know i really think i have to because we promote a lot of cons.

01:24:03.271 --> 01:24:06.431
We go to a lot of cons. That's kind of our niche, I feel, nowadays.

01:24:09.429 --> 01:24:11.769
You know, we also come from a world of going to cons, right?

01:24:11.849 --> 01:24:14.789
Like you went as a fan and then now you do it as professional and I,

01:24:14.809 --> 01:24:16.349
you know, I kind of do it semi-professionally.

01:24:16.629 --> 01:24:20.869
So it's like, I would hate to do, go to a con and just feel like I got,

01:24:21.109 --> 01:24:22.029
didn't get my money's worth.

01:24:22.229 --> 01:24:25.469
You know what I mean? I'm like, I didn't get to enjoy, enjoy really anything.

01:24:25.509 --> 01:24:29.749
I mean, the panels were cool, I guess, but you know, they were all in the same room.

01:24:29.949 --> 01:24:34.509
The panels were hosted in the, in the convention center, the small convention center part too,

01:24:34.889 --> 01:24:38.109
you know, you know, it's like, and some

01:24:38.109 --> 01:24:41.349
people didn't even make a single dollar like i had heard multiple vendors

01:24:41.349 --> 01:24:45.929
say they didn't make a single dollar so was

01:24:45.929 --> 01:24:51.489
were you saying like say on like peak midday saturday was there just like no

01:24:51.489 --> 01:24:54.769
one in the aisles was it just like could you like lay down on the floor in the

01:24:54.769 --> 01:24:58.809
aisles it was that empty i mean you could definitely yeah i wouldn't say it

01:24:58.809 --> 01:25:02.489
was like like no one like literally zero but i would say you could definitely

01:25:02.489 --> 01:25:04.109
snuggle on the ground and no one's any care,

01:25:04.789 --> 01:25:09.909
yeah yeah well you know that's again like again i i've never even heard this

01:25:09.909 --> 01:25:13.389
convention was existing i mean you probably wouldn't have unless you lived right

01:25:13.389 --> 01:25:18.469
near there like you do you know and i think a lot a lot of things now people

01:25:18.469 --> 01:25:21.389
just assume they put on an event they put it on instagram.

01:25:22.129 --> 01:25:24.909
And i don't know maybe they paid for some advertising in the city

01:25:24.909 --> 01:25:27.829
of san jose and that people are just going to come and people

01:25:27.829 --> 01:25:30.549
are just going to show up but that's not the case you know

01:25:30.549 --> 01:25:33.389
it's just not anymore and it

01:25:33.389 --> 01:25:36.069
sucks because it's like there's so much great great cons out

01:25:36.069 --> 01:25:38.869
here i mean and you know your man steve white puts out some

01:25:38.869 --> 01:25:41.629
puts in my opinion puts out put out a 10 times better

01:25:41.629 --> 01:25:44.629
con than fandom con did and they had endless money

01:25:44.629 --> 01:25:50.609
technically right yeah well it just goes to show like you know money just because

01:25:50.609 --> 01:25:55.449
you have money doesn't mean you know how to put something together and you know

01:25:55.449 --> 01:26:00.209
obviously steve white he's he did big wow he was a super con he's But then multiple

01:26:00.209 --> 01:26:01.649
cons, Bakersfield Comic Con,

01:26:01.769 --> 01:26:04.249
which will be at soon, you know, he knows the industry.

01:26:05.350 --> 01:26:07.670
Inside and out, you know, and some of these people, they, they just,

01:26:08.410 --> 01:26:10.910
like, like you said, they have some money they want to put on a show,

01:26:10.910 --> 01:26:14.350
but they don't really know like how to do a show.

01:26:14.690 --> 01:26:17.830
And they probably won't be back. I'm imagining.

01:26:18.510 --> 01:26:22.450
I don't think so, man. I definitely don't think so. But the good thing is this,

01:26:22.690 --> 01:26:28.090
what you guys just heard is the only interviews ever taken at this convention.

01:26:30.370 --> 01:26:38.250
Yeah, well, you ban press, and one of two of the press get in, this is what you got.

01:26:39.990 --> 01:26:44.510
You're doing them a favor, right? I'm doing the talent with them.

01:26:45.090 --> 01:26:48.450
Right, that's what I mean. Yes, them. Yeah.

01:26:49.270 --> 01:26:54.290
And we're doing the fans a favor by telling them if this con ever does come

01:26:54.290 --> 01:26:55.850
back to not waste your time.

01:26:56.290 --> 01:27:01.650
Yeah yeah or at least think about it but yeah so i did have another story but

01:27:01.650 --> 01:27:05.550
you know what i'll save that one for a different time i'll save it for a one true three.

01:27:06.670 --> 01:27:09.370
There you go cool because it involves a night out let me tell

01:27:09.370 --> 01:27:12.110
you but you know in the end i just gotta tell you thank you to all the guests that

01:27:12.110 --> 01:27:15.430
we've interviewed and who came who were so welcoming and so

01:27:15.430 --> 01:27:18.290
just they were just awesome man big thanks for the tarot

01:27:18.290 --> 01:27:20.970
reading to realizing that mike is sexier but let's be honest we

01:27:20.970 --> 01:27:24.070
didn't even need a tarot reading for that no it's

01:27:24.070 --> 01:27:27.630
just good this is good for entertainment right because we

01:27:27.630 --> 01:27:30.710
all know we don't i mean i don't do

01:27:30.710 --> 01:27:34.750
we know i don't know do we know but i

01:27:34.750 --> 01:27:37.890
guess let's go through before we wrap up let's go through some announcements because this

01:27:37.890 --> 01:27:40.910
comes out not monday uh we will be at

01:27:40.910 --> 01:27:44.530
designer con november 14th through

01:27:44.530 --> 01:27:49.630
the 17th right 16th 16th

01:27:49.630 --> 01:27:52.510
no right no it's the

01:27:52.510 --> 01:27:56.570
it's the because there's the preview night oh the preview night right okay you're

01:27:56.570 --> 01:28:02.110
right so the 14th through the 17th we will be there please come say hi we don't

01:28:02.110 --> 01:28:05.930
have a booth we're just there as press we got some fun stickers mike you want

01:28:05.930 --> 01:28:11.210
to tell about the fun stickers you made yeah so you know it's in vegas and we like to do a little,

01:28:11.850 --> 01:28:14.850
twist on wherever we're traveling to with our logo.

01:28:15.130 --> 01:28:19.930
And so I did a little twist on the welcome to fabulous Las Vegas,

01:28:20.090 --> 01:28:23.410
except it says, listen to the fabulous Uncle Dad Talks podcast.

01:28:25.609 --> 01:28:28.709
Which we're rebranding. We're going to rebrand with a different name soon,

01:28:28.829 --> 01:28:31.769
correct? Yeah, we're going to be the Uncle Dad Talks show.

01:28:32.409 --> 01:28:37.169
The show, wow. Yeah, what do you guys think of that? I love it, dude.

01:28:37.889 --> 01:28:40.589
What that means is you guys are going to see some new content from us.

01:28:41.069 --> 01:28:43.789
I've been playing with some new changes. You can't see it right now,

01:28:43.889 --> 01:28:47.569
but we've got a whole new lighting system on mine. Mike will get that soon at some point.

01:28:47.929 --> 01:28:51.569
We are going to be doing more video-focused things, and we're going to have

01:28:51.569 --> 01:28:53.209
unique looks. That's right.

01:28:53.589 --> 01:28:56.209
We're going to have specific looks. Mike's going to be very shiny,

01:28:56.209 --> 01:28:58.989
and I'm going to be very cowboy. And we'll see how that goes.

01:28:59.589 --> 01:29:00.669
Yeah, we'll see how that goes.

01:29:02.289 --> 01:29:05.829
We'll see how it goes. I'll give it a shot. I'm doing it for you.

01:29:06.249 --> 01:29:09.409
I trust your vision. I hope so. I hope so.

01:29:12.689 --> 01:29:15.649
We got to the Design Con. And is there any other announcements you want to give?

01:29:16.149 --> 01:29:19.129
Yeah. And then, like I mentioned earlier, we'll be at Bakersfield Comic Con

01:29:19.129 --> 01:29:23.509
the following weekend, Sunday 23rd and 24th of November in beautiful,

01:29:23.809 --> 01:29:26.129
sunny Bakersfield, California.

01:29:27.209 --> 01:29:28.149
Yeah, so beautiful.

01:29:29.909 --> 01:29:35.849
Yes, yes, yes. And Uncle Dad will be at Fan Expo SF at the Thanksgiving weekend.

01:29:35.909 --> 01:29:37.289
That's right. I will be there.

01:29:37.549 --> 01:29:41.729
And I might even be doing a live show. So once I get that confirmed,

01:29:41.829 --> 01:29:43.729
I'll let you know in the live episode, the next episode.

01:29:44.289 --> 01:29:49.449
Tasty. A little prize wheel show. We'll see. but and i want to do a shout out

01:29:49.449 --> 01:29:52.569
really quickly mike if we can i would like you to do it can you please do us

01:29:52.569 --> 01:29:57.289
a big solid and shout out our good friend the bracket monster released a new book,

01:29:57.829 --> 01:30:03.949
yeah that's right today is finally out brandon bracamonte aka the bracket monster

01:30:03.949 --> 01:30:10.949
on instagram he was on our our episode 149 of with our fun game yeah he just

01:30:10.949 --> 01:30:12.989
released his comic uh fear city,

01:30:13.549 --> 01:30:18.349
hit them up on Instagram if you're interested in purchasing one and we'll also

01:30:18.349 --> 01:30:21.029
have those for sale at Bakersfield Comic Con,

01:30:21.509 --> 01:30:24.729
that's amazing, yes please go support them because everybody here is part of

01:30:24.729 --> 01:30:28.209
our family they're part of your family so please support them and last thing

01:30:28.209 --> 01:30:32.909
about support, thank you to everybody who donated for the Asheville support

01:30:32.909 --> 01:30:36.289
during our Halloween special, huge thank you to everybody who donated,

01:30:36.689 --> 01:30:40.809
seriously I can't tell you that enough, you're going to see later on today or

01:30:40.809 --> 01:30:44.649
when this comes out There'll be a post already out of thanking everybody who

01:30:44.649 --> 01:30:46.789
was involved. So thank you for listening.

01:30:47.049 --> 01:30:49.569
Thank you for being a part of it. And thanks to all of our guests.

01:30:49.649 --> 01:30:51.629
And of course, thank you to Mike for being so cool.

01:30:52.489 --> 01:30:54.789
Yeah, so cool and so sexy.

01:30:57.249 --> 01:30:59.849
And I honestly can't think of a better way to cut you out to get out.

01:31:00.069 --> 01:31:04.349
So Mike, any last words? I think that was it, right?

01:31:06.029 --> 01:31:09.189
I mean, that's the way out. You just said it. You're right, you're right.

01:31:09.249 --> 01:31:10.929
I know, but I'm just having it. All right.

01:31:12.289 --> 01:31:15.829
We're not uncles we're not dads but we're just someone you can talk to we'll

01:31:15.829 --> 01:31:18.309
see you all next week Cincinnati baby.