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Episode 143: San Diego Comic-Con 2024 coverage Presented by EMBARC

Episode 143: San Diego Comic-Con 2024 coverage Presented by EMBARC
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UncleDad Talks

Welcome to the special episode everyone has been eagerly waiting for! Join Uncle Dad and Mike as they bring you the most exclusive and hottest coverage from San Diego Comic-Con 2024. This year, we have a special sponsor, California's favorite dispensary, Embark. Dive into exclusive interviews with comic book legends like Jeff Lemire, explore the Nacelleverse with Brian Volk-Weiss, and get scientific with Star Trek's science advisor, Dr. Erin McDonald. Plus, don't miss out on our fun segments and behind-the-scenes stories. This is your ultimate guide to all things Comic-Con and beyond!

Stay tuned for more exciting content and join us on this epic journey!

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Chapters

00:00 - Comic-Con Preview Night Sponsorship

03:52 - Podcast Promotion Break

06:24 - TV vs. Comic Creation Process

12:53 - Dream Project - Minor Arcana

16:39 - Neopets, The Darkest Fairy Development

21:07 - Involvement in Fallout Game Series

23:35 - Lovecraft-inspired Book - The Rats Beneath the Walls

24:21 - The Genesis of a Novel

39:55 - Behind the Scenes with Indiekin Pictures

50:07 - Two of a Kind: Strain of Weed

57:07 - College Parties and Star Trek Fans

01:08:57 - Nacelleverse: A Shared Universe Vision

01:14:52 - Toys That Made Us: Exciting Revival

Transcript
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All right, everybody, welcome to the special episode that everybody looks forward

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to. Isn't that right, Mike?

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Everyone's been waiting for this at least one year. At least one year every year.

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Every year. Every year. We are at San Diego Comic-Con Preview Night.

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We're going to be giving you the best and hottest coverage and most exclusive

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coverage you can find on the Podcast Nation, probably. Isn't that right?

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Or at least the most exclusive content that we can get access to.

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Exactly. Very good. But Mike, you know what makes this episode the most special?

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Why don't you tell me? I will tell you. We have, for the first time ever,

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an exclusive sponsor who is sponsoring this entire episode.

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Wow. That's the first time ever. Ever. Now, who is the sponsor?

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Do you know, Mike? I know, but I feel like you should tell the people because

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you have a very special interest in this type of company.

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I do. Am I wrong? You're not wrong.

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We are sponsored by California's favorite dispensary, Embark.

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If you haven't heard, we actually had the co-founder of Embark on the show.

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Things went off well, and now they're sponsoring this entire episode. So get this, everybody.

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Right now, if you go to Embark, if you go to Embark.com, my apologies,

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click where it says, Wins Devil's Lettuce Season 2, you have a chance to win $500 in cannabis.

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And for those that don't know, like someone like me, Embark is spelled E-M-B-A-R-C.

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And you know, it's funny when I was driving down here from up north yesterday,

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I saw an Embark billboard.

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I guess like Fairfield area. So I was excited. As you should be.

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Yes. And now you're going to be hearing a lot about Embark this episode.

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But that's because they are.

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I think, Mike, and let's be real right now. Let's get real. You're even wearing

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an Embark Devil's Lettuce shirt. I know.

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Wow. I've never seen anything like this. I know.

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So what I want to say is me and Mike don't take on every sponsor because they

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throw dough at us. Although we would.

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But that's not the case. We also like to get things that we believe and we dig

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and we really believe in Embark's product.

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Embark seriously offers some of the best cannabis around. You got some product.

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What was your thoughts on it?

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Sleepy joints? It helped put me to sleep. You know, I have no complaints.

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Yeah, yeah. All premium weed, all premium products.

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You can only get the best premium cannabis, period, at Embark.

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So get used to that name, kids, because we're about to embark on a wild ride.

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Wow i can't believe you just came up with that right off the cuff didn't you

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i sure did i see it in your i sure did you're very proud of yourself i am i

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am so without further ado mike let's have a great comic con you are in boot

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16 nights again that information doesn't matter to the listener but if they

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happen to be here and you happen to walk by we were there so.

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It's kind of weird isn't it but you know whatever what are we gonna do yeah

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we're not live so here we go,

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What is the one thing you're excited? Who's somebody you're excited for that

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we're going to interview this week?

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It's funny you should ask. It's Jeff Lemire. He's an artist and comic book writer.

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And I've loved his stuff. Multiple

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books that he's written and drawn and books that he's just written.

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I can't wait to talk to him. I'm stoked. Yeah. And for those who don't know,

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he created one of the most popular. It was a Netflix show too.

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Do you remember the show?

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Sweet Tooth. Yeah. He wrote. I guess he drew that too. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Very good.

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We're excited for that. We have the original OG Pink Pad Ranger coming on.

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I'm old enough to remember watching that. I am too.

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You may be a little younger, but we watched it. When I was watching it,

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it was okay. When you were watching it, it might have been questionable.

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Definitely questionable.

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Definitely questionable. We'll be right back after this break.

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Howdy, everybody. Uncle Dad here. Welcome back. We're very excited right now,

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aren't we, Mike? I'm so excited. I can tell. I can see it in your eyes how excited you are.

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Our guest is arguably one of the best in the business, I feel,

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truly, even though he says he might not be living, a living legend.

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Let's give it up for Jeff Lemire. Jeff, hello.

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Hey, guys. Nice to be here. Thanks. Yeah. So, Jeff, right away,

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I got to ask you, what is your favorite type of, what are your top three forest animals?

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Oh, boy, that's a, that one caught me off guard. Okay, top three forest animals. Wow.

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I do like birds. I like a crow. A good crow is always in my books,

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so we'll pick one of those. Fox, I like a fox. Okay.

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And I don't know, I'm stumped for a third. No deers? Oh, yeah,

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I guess that's a little under the nose, but I'll take it, sure.

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And for those who don't, Mike, do you know why I asked him that question?

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I think I know, yes, yeah.

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Can you tell the audience? Yeah, well, it probably has something to do with

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something called Sweet Tooth or something or other, right?

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It's a little book if you ever heard about it. I don't know if people have heard

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about it, but it's obviously one of the best books. It's also a Netflix show.

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So, Mike, I'm going to hand the mic to you because I know you've got some questions

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you can't wait to ask him.

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Yes, thank you. Yeah, so you're releasing a new book, which we're very excited

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for. I love your writing.

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I love it when you're writing and drawing in the same book.

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So when you do a show, like a TV show, and I know you worked,

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you did also an Essex County show.

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Is it more fun to do or do you enjoy the process of working on a show more or

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like sitting and drawing more?

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No, I mean, to be honest, the TV stuff hasn't been nearly as fulfilling as comics.

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Yeah, it's interesting, you know, I mean, it's interesting, especially the two

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books that have been turned into TV shows so far are two of my first books.

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So it's almost like going back 10 or 20 years and from

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when i when i was doing the comics and kind of getting back into the stories but

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yeah nothing really compares to making comics

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you know i even even having done two shows drawing a

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page of comics is so much more satisfying than the satisfaction

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i get out of the shows because there's so many more people

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involved with the tv stuff whereas when you're doing your comics it's

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usually either just me or me and make one to other people working

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very closely and very directly with the reader and it's

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just it's just a much more direct form of communication and

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storytelling do you feel when

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you do a television it's like being part of like a big machine rather than

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being like the the solo like unicycle if you will yeah i

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mean it's so it's so expensive to do tv and films that there's just

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so many more people who need to have their say and need to and

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everyone's you know worried about the budget and

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all this stuff so it's just you're not as free to

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make creative decisions as you are when you're doing comics and and

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like i said other than sometimes with an editor

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it's just you kind of get to do whatever you want and it goes

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directly right to the reader like a few months later whereas tv takes

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years and years to to do right one of my favorite books of yours that you did

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was trillium and you know just the parallel people people existing on different

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ends of time and space right where does that land for you in far as like your.

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Favorite projects or Or do you even, do you rank them?

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Like, what are your, like, what are your favorite stuff that you've done? Where does that land?

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Yeah. I mean, it's interesting. It's hard to rank them because each one of them

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was so important to me when I was doing them, obviously, you know,

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and then I move on to the next thing and that becomes all consuming, you know?

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So, but looking back, you know, it's kind of, there are obviously some,

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some highlights, some things I hold up a little higher than others.

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And, you know, Essex County and Sweet Tooth are big ones for me,

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obviously the first two books that kind of, and I found my voice as a creator

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and stuff. And then Trillium was an odd one because it came,

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it was the first thing I drew right after Sweet Tooth. So it was sort of.

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Me trying to do something totally different you know and and i think

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very fondly of that one for sure i was

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really proud of like some of the storytelling kind of

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gymnastics i did with like turning the book upside down

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and doing flip books and i had a lot of fun like you could you could

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see me just sort of experimenting and having fun and it was

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also one of the first books i tried to color myself which was

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really really interesting so it's yeah that

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one i i hold that one up pretty high actually you know i think it's

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it's it's great because it's such a standalone story too you

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know it's not like something you need to read like 12 volumes of it's like

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a one graphic novel and it's pretty satisfying i think

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so as a reader because i'm sure you read

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comics do you prefer the continuous series or like

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the one shots or like a series that's just

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completed in 12 issues i depends on what

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it is you know i think they all have value i love i do

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miss like a good ongoing series that you can follow every month

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and you know i feel like those are a dying breed which is kind of what

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i'm trying to do with the new book minor arcana get back to enjoying a

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single issue again where it's not just one part of a bigger chapter but

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they feel kind of satisfying as you know like when i was a kid reading you

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know like sandman or hellblazer and things like they they

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were telling a bigger story with those characters but each issue felt like a

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satisfying adventure you know almost and and so i'm trying to do that a bit

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with the new book minor arcana because i do feel like it's a dying breed in

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our industry now where everything's either mini series or even like the ongoing

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books don't last for usually much more than a year year and a half and they

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relaunch everything anyway.

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So I do miss that going to the comic store every month and like getting the

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new issue of, you know, whatever book, you know, but then there are other things

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that stand standalone great as graphic novels too.

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So it really just depends on what's best suits each story. But yeah,

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as a reader, I kind of missed the, the, the going to the comic shop every Wednesday

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and buying stuff, you know, a pull list. Yeah.

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Yeah. I think that that might have something to do with just people's attention

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spans these days. Right. Yeah.

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It's not what it used to be. Well, okay, so I was looking at a little bit of

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the notes that are online about your new book, Minor Arcana,

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and it says that you say this is your dream project.

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What about this makes that your dream project?

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I think it's for a lot of reasons. I think if you look at, I mean,

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if you just take the stuff that I've drawn myself, separate from stuff I've

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written for other artists, you kind of see a different, two or three different

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kinds of books I usually do.

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There's usually like the Essex County, Royal City stuff where it's more slice

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of life, like grounded human stories.

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Then there's more sci-fi stuff like Trillium or, you know, Sweet Tooth, I guess, you know.

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And then there's sort of the dreamier stuff like Underwater Welder and Maze Book and stuff.

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So this book really kind of combines all three of those avenues of storytelling

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into one big thing where I can kind of balance them all and get to play with them all each month.

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And yeah so i get to i have a lot of freedom to kind of go

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in between these different types of storytelling within the story you know

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and and to just sort of i don't

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know in a way it's sort of like if you boil down all my

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books into one new story it feels like this is kind of it

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you know yeah so what are your top three dreams

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okay okay yeah we also

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saw you know i like i love your covers i mean when you

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get to draw and and write it it's to me it's the best but

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you've got some variant covers like do you get to pick who

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you want to do the variants or does the is boom who's publishing

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this book do they pick them for you it's

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yeah it's a bit of both you know you work with the editor and

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also they'll ask me like do you have who would

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you like to do covers and i'll give them a list of people and and they'll

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also come to me with people i i don't i'm not aware of you know

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there's some new ones that there was a woman named ryoko murakami

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who did one who i wasn't familiar with their work but it's one of my favorite ones

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you know so it's a great way to of for me to kind of see some new artists

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as well that i wasn't familiar with but so it's a bit of both you know

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i gave them a list of people familiar collaborators and stuff

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that i would love to see draw these my characters and

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but it's always a it's always sort of a conversation between two yeah i i'm

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curious uh when it comes to like current artists what are your like some of

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your favorite current artists right now that are kind of up and coming oh boy

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yeah let me think i always get put on the spot with these things because i've

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been doing that a lot today uh it's your top three artists.

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I can think about those. I think about this stuff all the time.

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And then when I'm on the spot, I can't think of anyone. Yeah.

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Let me think. Jesus. Jesus is one.

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I don't know. I'm drawing a blank just because I haven't had my coffee yet.

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It's okay. No worries. No worries.

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There's so many talented people coming up in the industry. It's crazy.

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it feels like every month there's like incredible stuff being published.

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I think Zoe Thorogood is really talented.

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Gosh, I don't know. She's the first one that came to mind. I thought her book

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was pretty special last year.

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It's only at the center of the earth. I thought that was pretty amazing. yeah

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she's the first one that came to mind so we'll stick with that we'll take that okay i'd

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like it we'll take it got about two more minutes okay well is

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there ever a person that you want to collaborate with that

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you haven't or like i would love to see you

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collaborate with bruce tim on a book somehow in some

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way i don't even know is there someone that we

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could just put out to the universe that that jeff lemire

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wants to work with yeah there's always i mean i have

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i have my my own heroes that i would love to work with you know

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i think frank whaley is a legend and i he would be just it's incredible to work

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with him teddy christiansen was a guy that i loved sandman and i loved his house

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of secrets vertigo series back in the day so and i'm working with him now on

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some stuff so that's that was kind of a dream come true on that one so yeah there's always,

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people like that yeah frank whaley he's sort of the the white whale i'd love

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to do something with him, yeah. Okay, well, we're on it. We'll see what we can do.

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Suck that up for me. We'll see if we can make that happen. So do you have any more questions, Mike?

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One question. When you're drawing.

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What do you listen to music? Do you listen to podcasts? Do you have a TV on the background?

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Are you listening? All of the above. All right.

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but I listen to music while I write.

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And when I'm penciling, I mostly listen to music because there's a lot of,

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there's still a lot of decision-making and like storytelling going on.

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Else but then when you're inking you can then i when you

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get to inking then you can turn around like the tv like a tv show or

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a podcast or something because it's a little more of a mechanical thing at.

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That point you're not you're not making storytelling decisions that's

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already been done you're just kind of executing a technical thing you

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know yeah so before we wrap up i have

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one last kind of fun question here look at all our questions

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are fun are you a fan of bruce willis

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have a super fan but okay well would you ever if you

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any of your books could you would you ever cast bruce

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willis in any of your books as like a live action role that's a

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really weird question and very specific but i'm trying

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to think of any of my characters that would fit him i don't

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know i can't think of any off the top of my head sorry mike why

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are you guys like giant this guy is you want to show him real

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quick come on there it is nice uh

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jeff thank you so much really it was an an absolute pleasure just hanging

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out with you talking to you you know i know we're a little silly but that's our charm

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thank you so much mike you got any last words yeah so

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the new book it's coming out when is

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it coming and where do we find it and all that stuff because i'm

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really excited about it too so it's it's it debuts

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in september boom studios is is publishing it you know so you'll be able to

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find it everywhere and i'm doing every issue has two covers that i'm doing one

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is like the regular cover and then i'm doing a tarot card cover for each issue

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so at the end of the run Hopefully I've created a whole tarot deck with all

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the different care the cast from book as all the the tarot sort of you know.

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Concepts and characters.

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Yeah, it's amazing Jeff. Thank you so much for it's an absolute pleasure I'll

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go get that book when it comes out and Mike will be right back up this brick.

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Hi, my name is Duncan Wickle.

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I'm a musician from the band rising Appalachian. You're listening to uncle dad talk.

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All right, everybody, Uncle Dad here, and we're talking with Robert S.

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Campbell, whose writing and credits include Fallout, Starblood Arena,

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my personal favorite, Neopets, The Darkest Fairy, Myth 3, and much more.

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Put a few more, yeah, a few more.

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Robert, right away, I just have to ask you, what was your involvement in Neopets,

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The Darkest Fairy? The entirety of the design.

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Like, from, oh my gosh. So, long story, but I'll try to truncate it.

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So working with Neopets, Adam and Donna, the original creators,

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working with them for a storyline.

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but they were little kind of like bite-sized pieces, and they had kind of not a lot of in-between.

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So I needed to fill out all the in-between. And working at Sony,

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I wanted to do something that Sony really hadn't done before,

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which was make a game more reminiscent of like a Nintendo game,

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like The Legend of Zelda, which is my favorite frigging game of all time.

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So, you know, I'm like, all right, you know what?

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Why don't we try to mix all these together, make it more of a kid-friendly RPG,

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but still have some serious elements and such.

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And yeah, the way the story goes is that the developers were a company called

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Idle Minds out of Colorado.

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And, you know, great bunch of guys, you know, seriously talented,

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especially like, you know, the artists there.

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I mean, oh my gosh, these guys absolutely rocked. they were able to,

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like, deal with Neopets'.

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Fairly excruciating level of detail, like, the polish of all their characters,

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the color palettes had to be just perfect and all that stuff,

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but they just, they rocked it. So anyway...

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So, unfortunately, they were really good at designing sports games,

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games for, like, you know, kids and such like that.

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So they didn't quite understand what designers did.

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So, you know, they're like, oh, well, you know, artists make the levels,

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the engineers code it. What more do you need? And I'm like, oh, my God.

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So at Sony, I and another guy by the name of George Weising,

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who's still at Sony, by the way, he's now a, my gosh, I want to say he's an

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executive producer, but he's a producer over at Sony Santa Monica still.

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Yeah, shout out, George. So the two of us were like, oh my gosh,

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okay, we have to basically be the designers of this game.

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And it turned out it was a pretty big game. I mean, it went on for a while.

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So George was dealing with a lot of initial combat mechanics and things like

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that. And, you know, had some of the creative ideas of how some of the bosses work.

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And I was the guy that wrote all the dialogues, all the quests.

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Made, you know, placed, oh my gosh, placed so many

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different things and really just like made the complete

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design document of the whole thing like how it all flowed through did

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all of the my god for all of the the dialogue and

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such like that for the cut scenes i did a

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little bit of that but i i'm trying to remember we had help doing some of that

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but anyway so anyway a lot of the design i mean like the the design of like

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you know you know like how your armors up you know gets upgraded your your sword

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the motes the pet pets even though So the pet pets, man, we ran out of time at the end.

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They weren't exactly what we wanted, you know?

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I always thought that because they felt a little, I don't want to say unfinished,

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but I guess that would be the word, right? That's exactly right.

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I mean, like what was supposed to happen is whatever it was that they were helping

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you with, you were supposed to see a little particle system travel to you.

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So like when I think it was like the little lion guy, and I can't remember the

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name of it, but the little lion guy, when he's following you around,

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he's increasing your health all the time.

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So you'd see this like little stream of hearts coming towards you.

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So you see, oh, they're doing something.

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I get it. But as it is now, it's like, all right, they're just a little guy

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hanging out with me. That's cool. But what do they do?

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And so, yeah, they actually do the stuff. You just couldn't see it.

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Yeah. So that game, I mean, I feel like we could talk about the game in one episode.

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But that game in general, in my opinion, truly was, I bought it at GameStop

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and I was like, I was a younger guy and I was like, oh, wow,

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this is, it looks unique.

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I bought anything that was unique and I bought it and I couldn't tell you how

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much fun I had. I just couldn't stop playing it.

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I could not stop playing it because it reminded me of a child version of Diablo

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meets sorry, you said it, Legend of Zelda.

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Yeah, and I felt that experience the entire time and I really couldn't stop.

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That's actually one of the games I wish I still had on my PS2.

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I don't have it anymore. I know I probably could find it, but it's a little

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expensive. Yeah, exactly.

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But I really did just love everything about that game.

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So just thank you for being a part of that and being a part of my childhood

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too. So thank you. Yeah, because you were, right? Maybe not indirectly, but you were.

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One last thing I want to touch on before we go into your new book is Fallout.

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Obviously, Fallout, one of the most iconic game series of all time.

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You were involved in the first Fallout, correct? I was actually the lead designer

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of the original Fallout.

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So, yeah, I'm part of the original team that made Fallout and,

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you know, part of the first, well, group of guys and stuff.

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Yeah. I mean, a lot of this stuff, and this is so surreal to me.

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I mean, to be honest, that 30 years and we're still talking about this.

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You know, it's like, you know, different, like, concepts, like,

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different locations and stuff like that. I mean, like, Shady Sands,

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Junk Town, all that stuff, that was pretty much me.

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But, like, all the different, like, you know, raider names and types and characters.

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And, I mean, the idea of using bottle caps as currency.

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You know, the Deathclaw, the Brotherhood of Steel. I mean, yeah,

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they were all in this massive design doc I put together that, you know, yeah.

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But, you know, a lot of inspiration from a lot of other things,

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right? And, again, you know, even though I say, oh, I was the lead designer,

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it's a collaborative effort.

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And that team, I mean, they're so good.

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Had so many very creative people that really, you know, knocked the park.

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I mean, my gosh, especially like Leonard and Jason are two like lead artists.

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Oh, my gosh. They I mean, creating the Pip-Boy stuff and all of just the visuals

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and, you know, the whole inspiration of that, like kind of like 50s kind of atomic punk style.

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Oh, my God. Yeah. They destroyed it. Yeah. I think that game,

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I mean, obviously we don't talk about the legacy like we know the legacy of

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the game, but I am just curious. So because you were involved in the original

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setup of everything with the TV show, what was your thoughts on it just briefly?

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No, I mean, you know, I've been asked not just about the TV show,

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but like, you know, Bethesda's Fallout 3 and 4.

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It's like, well, what did you think of it? And I'm like, dude,

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I freaking loved it. It's freaking amazing.

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Right. I mean, I love first person shooters. I thought they did an incredible

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job. And I'm like, hell, yeah, this is great. The TV show.

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I mean, I had high hopes for it, but it was so much better than I was expecting.

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Right. It was. You know, it's just like they did.

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They had a such a good handle on what made Fallout Fallout.

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Right. That kind of like it was so strange that it's kind of funny,

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but it's like a dark humor.

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Right. And it's not slapstick or anything else like that. It's like a specific niche.

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And, you know, it's it's really like, you know, this kind of like worldview

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of like, what would the future look like?

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And then like, what would it actually be if you like try to pursue that vision?

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And anyway, Masterful Jumps. I'm glad you say that.

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So now, speaking of Masterful Jumps, let's talk about your book.

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Oh, oh my gosh. Well, okay. So on top of all these other things, I'm a Lovecraft fan.

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And so I wrote this book called The Rats Beneath the Walls. If you're familiar

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with Lovecraft at all, he wrote this book, short story.

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In 1924, he had it published in Weird Tales, and it was called The Rats in the Walls.

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And it's one of my favorite stories of all time. I mean, it's not directly related

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to his Cthulhu mythos. It's actually like a gothic horror story kind of on its own.

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I loved it so much, I had an idea for like a spiritual successor, like a sequel to it.

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And then, you know, I looked and I'm like, oh my God, 2024 is the 100th year

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anniversary of the short story.

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And I'm like, I have to finish it by then. So I did. And, you know,

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it's only like a month old.

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But yeah, the book is a modern telling. You know, it takes place in 2024.

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You know, it's not using Lovecraft's archaic prose or anything like that.

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It's very modern. and actually has a fair bit of action in it too,

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but it's still straight up a horror story and it definitely like takes Lovecraft's

423
00:24:39,584 --> 00:24:42,784
original story and concepts and things like that and just, you know,

424
00:24:42,804 --> 00:24:44,844
and treats it with like honor and respect.

425
00:24:44,924 --> 00:24:46,564
So yeah, not going off the deep

426
00:24:46,564 --> 00:24:51,264
end with it. I just, yeah, just kind of a nod of the hat to the old man.

427
00:24:51,664 --> 00:24:55,644
But yeah, honestly, one little secret thing.

428
00:24:55,804 --> 00:25:01,564
So as a game designer, I have a ton of different game designs and things like that, just a ton of them.

429
00:25:01,944 --> 00:25:06,024
And I know that we don't have enough time, at least in my life,

430
00:25:06,084 --> 00:25:07,724
to do them all. I mean, there's so many.

431
00:25:07,884 --> 00:25:11,964
And this was an idea that I initially was thinking would be a game.

432
00:25:12,284 --> 00:25:16,264
And then when that kind of wasn't possible, I was like, well,

433
00:25:16,324 --> 00:25:18,744
I'll just mothball it for a bit. And I'm like, you know what?

434
00:25:18,964 --> 00:25:21,784
Why don't I just take this idea and turn it into a novel?

435
00:25:22,064 --> 00:25:27,664
And now I'm going to try to do that for a great number of game designs and things that I have.

436
00:25:27,844 --> 00:25:31,384
One of my things that I love doing is building worlds. and so I'm gonna try

437
00:25:31,384 --> 00:25:34,124
to build those worlds into a novel form and then hopefully.

438
00:25:35,195 --> 00:25:39,615
Every so often I'll just drop a new book out there and it'll just be more crazy

439
00:25:39,615 --> 00:25:42,335
stuff from my head over time. So yeah.

440
00:25:43,075 --> 00:25:45,835
Robert, I love it. I love your, your, your passion behind everything.

441
00:25:46,095 --> 00:25:48,835
I mean, talking about world building, I mean, and I really mean this from the

442
00:25:48,835 --> 00:25:51,475
bottom of my heart, you created one of the most impactful worlds in my life,

443
00:25:51,535 --> 00:25:54,495
which is not just Fallout, but honestly, Darkest Ferry.

444
00:25:54,575 --> 00:25:57,235
I talk about that game all the time with collectors and play,

445
00:25:57,315 --> 00:26:00,575
you know, people who don't even like Neopets, like, have you ever played this game?

446
00:26:00,695 --> 00:26:03,775
Cause it's such a well done game. It really is.

447
00:26:04,015 --> 00:26:06,895
And it was one of those games, I don't remember, you know, and I say this with

448
00:26:06,895 --> 00:26:09,035
respect, I don't think it did that well financially.

449
00:26:09,355 --> 00:26:13,615
Sadly, it did not. And honestly, I mean, like Sony, they really actually did

450
00:26:13,615 --> 00:26:15,215
a great job of marketing it.

451
00:26:15,275 --> 00:26:17,935
I mean, they had like TV commercials and stuff like that. I mean,

452
00:26:17,955 --> 00:26:23,115
they swung for the fences, but like for whatever reason, it just did not get out there.

453
00:26:23,115 --> 00:26:25,955
You know and we've had you know we've had people tell us

454
00:26:25,955 --> 00:26:29,015
that like oh well it's because there wasn't as many neopets fans as

455
00:26:29,015 --> 00:26:32,035
they thought and some people didn't know what it was because it wasn't

456
00:26:32,035 --> 00:26:36,295
very established as neopets on the cover and stuff whatever man but you know

457
00:26:36,295 --> 00:26:39,975
that the crazy thing is is the legacy of that game you know it's like people

458
00:26:39,975 --> 00:26:42,555
they didn't even know what it was but when they played it they're like oh my

459
00:26:42,555 --> 00:26:45,855
gosh this is great and that that to me is like the thing that just makes me

460
00:26:45,855 --> 00:26:49,415
grin from ear to ear it's like yeah let the game speak for itself Absolutely.

461
00:26:49,955 --> 00:26:53,215
And you know, in the world of like retro being popular now, right?

462
00:26:53,415 --> 00:26:56,455
And Limited Run makes a bunch of obscure games come back.

463
00:26:56,935 --> 00:27:00,215
Maybe one day they'll talk to Neopets and bring Marcus Ferry back.

464
00:27:00,475 --> 00:27:02,655
Who knows, man? Stranger things have happened.

465
00:27:03,095 --> 00:27:06,595
That's very true. Robert, where can our audience buy the book and learn more

466
00:27:06,595 --> 00:27:08,235
about you and connect with you and all that good stuff? Doug?

467
00:27:08,295 --> 00:27:16,335
So I would say the easiest way to do that is literally just go to www.robertscottcampbell.com.

468
00:27:16,735 --> 00:27:20,035
That's my website. So yeah, I mean, you can get to my email through there.

469
00:27:20,135 --> 00:27:23,315
You can get to our publishing arm. You can see what the book looks like. You can buy it online.

470
00:27:23,455 --> 00:27:26,095
You can do all that other good stuff. So it's all there. And anything new I

471
00:27:26,095 --> 00:27:27,815
come out with, it'll all be up there.

472
00:27:28,275 --> 00:27:31,475
All right, everybody, go check that out. Uncle Dad, we'll be back after this

473
00:27:31,475 --> 00:27:33,555
break. Thank you again, Robert. Absolute pleasure. Absolutely.

474
00:27:33,655 --> 00:27:36,195
Uncle Dad, you are the best. Thank you. You're the best.

475
00:27:39,247 --> 00:27:44,347
Hi there. This is Dave Mandel. I'd like to think you know me as a writer for

476
00:27:44,347 --> 00:27:48,507
Seinfeld and Curb Your Enthusiasm or Veep or even Eurotrip or,

477
00:27:48,527 --> 00:27:50,687
I don't know, The Dictator or Clerks.

478
00:27:51,007 --> 00:27:54,167
But you probably know me from Cat in the Hat. Oh, well.

479
00:27:54,647 --> 00:27:57,267
Anyway, you're listening to Uncle Dad Talks.

480
00:27:58,687 --> 00:28:02,347
All right. Uncle Dad here hanging out with Mike. Mike, it's day two.

481
00:28:02,867 --> 00:28:08,207
And remember, this is day two coverage of the exclusive Embark sponsored episode.

482
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So remember, GoEmbark.com.

483
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That's right. I've seen multiple people come by and take pictures and scan while

484
00:28:14,887 --> 00:28:16,647
we're here working at the booth.

485
00:28:16,927 --> 00:28:19,907
I love that. And why would you not? Because you have a chance to win 500 bucks.

486
00:28:19,947 --> 00:28:22,307
Am I right? That's right. 500 bucks in what?

487
00:28:23,487 --> 00:28:29,687
Embark materials. Weed. But Mike, we just got done a couple of great interviews so far.

488
00:28:29,787 --> 00:28:32,687
We did a man himself, Jeff Lemire. How was that for you?

489
00:28:33,167 --> 00:28:36,187
It was kind of surreal. you know because like i've read his

490
00:28:36,187 --> 00:28:39,607
stuff bought his comics for so long you know

491
00:28:39,607 --> 00:28:42,327
and then you talk to him it just goes by like super quick but it was

492
00:28:42,327 --> 00:28:46,807
great it was super nice guy yes super nice guy and the fact that he had three

493
00:28:46,807 --> 00:28:50,627
animals ready to go that was awesome and he was willing to humor us with bruce

494
00:28:50,627 --> 00:28:55,247
willis for a bit and that makes you a good guy am i right in my book yeah exactly

495
00:28:55,247 --> 00:29:00,127
and then i just got to interview one of the original creators of fallout i mean

496
00:29:00,127 --> 00:29:01,747
i think if you guys If you guys don't know what Fallout is,

497
00:29:01,867 --> 00:29:05,907
go turn on television because it has one of the hottest television shows right now.

498
00:29:06,187 --> 00:29:10,227
I mean, Mike, come on. I've never seen it, but the previews look great.

499
00:29:11,034 --> 00:29:13,694
But the video game is even better. And he was one of the original designers

500
00:29:13,694 --> 00:29:15,154
behind it. So that's amazing, man.

501
00:29:15,274 --> 00:29:17,994
We got to talk to him. He gave us a special copy of his book.

502
00:29:18,014 --> 00:29:21,394
And his book is called, for those who don't remember, The Rats Beneath the Walls,

503
00:29:21,394 --> 00:29:25,914
the official unofficial sequel to a classic H.P. Lovecraft story.

504
00:29:26,674 --> 00:29:32,214
Very cool. Very cool indeed. Mike, before we go, I got to ask our guest here,

505
00:29:32,614 --> 00:29:33,974
Callie Dunlap. Callie Dunlap Art.

506
00:29:35,094 --> 00:29:38,454
Callie. What? Callie Dunlap Art. Exactly.

507
00:29:38,634 --> 00:29:41,534
Callie, quick question for you. what is your favorite word

508
00:29:41,534 --> 00:29:45,014
to describe cannabis devil's lettuce

509
00:29:45,014 --> 00:29:48,494
hashish uh the ganj

510
00:29:48,494 --> 00:29:52,294
who would you what do you call it devil's lettuce all right devil's lettuce

511
00:29:52,294 --> 00:29:56,494
hey that's a good choice and remember devil's lettuce you can go to go embark

512
00:29:56,494 --> 00:30:00,314
and get the best devil's lettuce isn't that right callie the best devil's lettuce

513
00:30:00,314 --> 00:30:02,934
that's devil's lettuce indeed all right buddy we'll be right back with this

514
00:30:02,934 --> 00:30:07,854
exclusive episode brought to you by goembark.com all right everybody uncle Uncle Dad here,

515
00:30:07,914 --> 00:30:12,514
hanging out with one of my favorite companies in the collectible toy world.

516
00:30:12,954 --> 00:30:14,534
We are with Jada Toys. Give it

517
00:30:14,534 --> 00:30:17,734
up for Thomas, the coordinator behind this wonderful product. How are you?

518
00:30:18,134 --> 00:30:21,214
Good. Yourself, man? You know, I'm much better because we're talking about toys.

519
00:30:21,294 --> 00:30:24,054
And who doesn't like talking about toys and collectibles and action figures, right?

520
00:30:24,314 --> 00:30:27,334
Right. No, you could talk about them all day, especially all the articulation,

521
00:30:27,494 --> 00:30:28,714
all the stuff they have. Yep.

522
00:30:28,854 --> 00:30:33,294
I love that you talked about articulation because your toys have a lot of articulated

523
00:30:33,294 --> 00:30:38,034
points, right? I would argue to say that kind of separates you guys a lot from the competition.

524
00:30:38,434 --> 00:30:42,474
I think because they're fully articulated and they come with extra heads,

525
00:30:42,754 --> 00:30:46,074
hands, and also the accessory effect.

526
00:30:46,334 --> 00:30:50,734
It's just also a lower price point. Most people like that the most about our figures.

527
00:30:51,134 --> 00:30:54,394
Yeah, your guys' price point is so great. But before we get into all that,

528
00:30:54,514 --> 00:30:55,974
let's talk about what you guys are offering.

529
00:30:56,134 --> 00:30:59,454
Not necessarily here, but just all together at Comic-Con. Right away,

530
00:30:59,534 --> 00:31:00,734
I see the Cyberpunk Edgerunners.

531
00:31:00,894 --> 00:31:06,874
When was that introduced and how has that been doing? It was introduced last year as just a reveal,

532
00:31:07,034 --> 00:31:11,234
and right now we're still not selling it, but the amount of engagement people

533
00:31:11,234 --> 00:31:14,914
are having about them, talking about them all the time, the main thing here

534
00:31:14,914 --> 00:31:20,094
is that they also have soft goods on them, so they'll have a soft jacket as well.

535
00:31:21,474 --> 00:31:24,214
When you say soft, will they be like fabric or a type of fabric?

536
00:31:24,694 --> 00:31:26,854
Yeah, it's like fabric. It's more expensive, but we're trying to make sure it's

537
00:31:26,854 --> 00:31:30,074
still at a good price point. Are you familiar with a toy brand from back in

538
00:31:30,074 --> 00:31:31,174
the day called Migos? Yes.

539
00:31:32,117 --> 00:31:35,077
Okay, so let me tell you something. So the old school toy collector,

540
00:31:35,217 --> 00:31:38,777
what we used to love about the old school toys, Migos, they were toys like this,

541
00:31:38,797 --> 00:31:43,757
like little dolls, but they came with no articulation, but they had real fabric clothing.

542
00:31:44,177 --> 00:31:48,777
So the fact that you have full articulated figures with clothing,

543
00:31:48,897 --> 00:31:50,657
that is huge, man. That's awesome.

544
00:31:50,837 --> 00:31:56,097
Yeah, no, I've barely learned about it this year as myself from fans of Jada

545
00:31:56,097 --> 00:32:00,097
teaching me about it as well, from all these action figure fanatics.

546
00:32:00,357 --> 00:32:03,057
It's amazing, really. So what else do we got kind of going on?

547
00:32:03,117 --> 00:32:06,737
What else would you want to talk about for the audience to learn about your guys' product?

548
00:32:07,097 --> 00:32:11,037
Yeah, here at San Diego Comic-Con, we just showed our extensive Street Fighter

549
00:32:11,037 --> 00:32:12,577
line from the Street Fighter 2 game.

550
00:32:12,797 --> 00:32:18,437
And right now, we're revealing our new few figures, which are T-Hawk, Balrog, and E-Honda.

551
00:32:18,777 --> 00:32:22,897
And it's just showing our exclusive Violent Cannon Pink Chun-Li as well.

552
00:32:22,977 --> 00:32:25,797
That's amazing. So now these are not out yet or these are out already?

553
00:32:26,297 --> 00:32:30,037
They are not out yet. Yeah, the Violent King and Chun-Li are out during San

554
00:32:30,037 --> 00:32:34,717
Diego Comic-Con for sale, but the T-Hawk, Balrog, and Nihon are just for display only.

555
00:32:34,897 --> 00:32:37,717
Display only, okay. So you also have other figures around here.

556
00:32:37,937 --> 00:32:40,517
Let's talk about these. The Hollywood Riots caught my interest.

557
00:32:41,797 --> 00:32:45,337
That line is so awesome because you do some interesting things.

558
00:32:45,417 --> 00:32:48,977
And one of the things I see right away is I love the collaboration with the Ghostbusters.

559
00:32:49,477 --> 00:32:53,317
Optimus Prime, tell us a little bit about that. Yeah, no, this mashup was amazing

560
00:32:53,317 --> 00:32:57,317
because we just put the Ghostbusters graphics onto the Transformers,

561
00:32:57,317 --> 00:32:59,617
Optimus Prime G1 and then we just,

562
00:33:00,077 --> 00:33:03,077
decided to throw in the Transformers graphics onto the Ecto-1 as well.

563
00:33:03,297 --> 00:33:05,577
Yeah. That's incredible. The flip-flop on that is so awesome.

564
00:33:05,657 --> 00:33:08,317
Now, do they transform? They do not. Not yet.

565
00:33:09,997 --> 00:33:15,117
The Transformers G1 Optimus under it has a little statue of him.

566
00:33:15,257 --> 00:33:19,117
You can't remove him but he's under the chastity. Oh, that's pretty cool.

567
00:33:19,217 --> 00:33:21,317
Okay. What is your favorite Hollywood ride?

568
00:33:21,537 --> 00:33:26,277
Maybe not even here but just as a fan of Hollywood rides, what's your favorite car and movies?

569
00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:31,660
It will actually be probably just the Back to the Future.

570
00:33:32,180 --> 00:33:34,720
The DeLorean? Yeah, we'll call it the time machine, but yeah.

571
00:33:34,900 --> 00:33:36,120
Yeah, sure. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

572
00:33:36,460 --> 00:33:40,420
That's amazing. Okay, cool. So before we wrap up here, I want to talk about the Cheetos.

573
00:33:40,900 --> 00:33:44,840
So I feel like, you tell me if I'm wrong, I feel like the world of like mascots

574
00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:48,380
are really hot right now. Like the world of like snack mascots.

575
00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:53,500
So what's up with this? Are you going to have more characters from the world from snacks?

576
00:33:54,140 --> 00:33:58,280
From snacks? Oh, we plan to hopefully we could do a lot more with that like

577
00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:03,360
this action figure line of the snacks and Cereal is kind of like my boss says

578
00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:07,740
it like this He said these are the action figures that people didn't know that they won't need it.

579
00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:10,700
Yeah, right I absolutely agree with that because I see that I'm like,

580
00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:13,940
oh man I never thought I needed a Chester Cheeto on my desk next to my office,

581
00:34:14,100 --> 00:34:17,860
but I think I need that Yeah, no, if you need both now, we try to give a collection

582
00:34:17,860 --> 00:34:21,580
of the Cheetos and the Flamin' Hot Yeah, well see what's funny is actually don't

583
00:34:21,580 --> 00:34:22,980
like Flamin' Hot Cheetos too spicy for me.

584
00:34:23,060 --> 00:34:27,660
I know not good So before we wrap up here, can you tell our audience where they

585
00:34:27,660 --> 00:34:30,080
can get your product, learn more about your product, all that good stuff?

586
00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:33,380
Yeah, you can learn more about our product through our socials.

587
00:34:33,380 --> 00:34:37,120
You can find us on Instagram, Facebook, TikTok, even on YouTube as well.

588
00:34:37,300 --> 00:34:40,740
And you can find our products to purchase at Walmart, Target,

589
00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:43,980
Amazon, Big Bad Toy Store, even Entertainment Earth online.

590
00:34:44,660 --> 00:34:48,300
Everywhere. Almost everywhere. Yeah, yeah. Jada Toys is going to take over the

591
00:34:48,300 --> 00:34:50,240
world. One day. One day. One day.

592
00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:53,640
Thomas, thank you so much. It's an absolute pleasure. I will definitely take

593
00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:55,920
some photos for our audience so they can see your guys' great product.

594
00:34:56,020 --> 00:34:58,600
Because you said yourself some of this will only be shown here.

595
00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:02,880
Yes, some of it will be only shown here. But now that they've been revealed

596
00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:05,760
and now they are public, we'll sooner or later post them online.

597
00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:08,640
That's amazing. Thank you so much, Thomas. Appreciate it. Appreciate it. Thank you.

598
00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:13,620
All right. Uncle Dad here hanging out with probably the most unique names in film.

599
00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:17,960
Am I saying it right? Indiken? Indiken. Okay. Indiken. Okay.

600
00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:21,660
And I'm assuming I know why it's called that. Am I right? I assume it gets called

601
00:35:21,660 --> 00:35:22,620
because of the cannabis?

602
00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:27,780
Actually, no. Really? Really? Okay, okay. Okay.

603
00:35:30,344 --> 00:35:33,684
I cannot be the first person that said that. We thought the same thing when

604
00:35:33,684 --> 00:35:36,724
we got into the company and our boss was like, no, that's not it.

605
00:35:37,264 --> 00:35:41,584
Okay, okay. Well, anyways, if you guys could introduce yourself,

606
00:35:41,764 --> 00:35:44,384
I'd really appreciate that. We are speaking with? I'm B.

607
00:35:44,964 --> 00:35:48,164
Okay, and I'm speaking with? Kyoko. Kyoko, very nice, lovely.

608
00:35:48,544 --> 00:35:53,164
Okay, so you guys are representing Indiekin Pictures, which is not to be associated with weed, I guess.

609
00:35:53,364 --> 00:35:57,464
So let's talk about, what caught my attention was, I love independent film.

610
00:35:57,604 --> 00:35:59,164
My sister works in independent film.

611
00:35:59,764 --> 00:36:02,844
Independent film is a very big part of who I am. And seeing people out there

612
00:36:02,844 --> 00:36:06,084
pushing the art of film on the lesser side of things, right?

613
00:36:06,224 --> 00:36:07,804
It needs to be around forever.

614
00:36:08,184 --> 00:36:12,784
So my question to you is, what would our audience get from watching your guys'

615
00:36:12,904 --> 00:36:15,224
pictures? What kind of films do you guys put out there?

616
00:36:15,504 --> 00:36:20,344
So we used to do a lot of horror films because that's really what sell,

617
00:36:20,544 --> 00:36:22,064
kind of. People like to watch it.

618
00:36:22,244 --> 00:36:27,984
But recently, we started doing a lot of artistic film, kind of, from international.

619
00:36:27,984 --> 00:36:30,784
National we just got a film called hounds and it's

620
00:36:30,784 --> 00:36:33,864
in the canes festival and it's actually a really cool film

621
00:36:33,864 --> 00:36:36,724
but a lot of the big platform don't want to take it just because it got

622
00:36:36,724 --> 00:36:39,584
like dogfight in there so we we're trying to include

623
00:36:39,584 --> 00:36:42,264
like i guess like different cultures and kind of like

624
00:36:42,264 --> 00:36:47,684
subcultures that's not really like what wildly accepted things that are controversial

625
00:36:47,684 --> 00:36:53,104
as well but yeah these are a lot of independent you know directors and creators

626
00:36:53,104 --> 00:36:56,604
and so we're We're giving them a chance to be part of these bigger platforms

627
00:36:56,604 --> 00:37:00,384
so that they could put themselves out there as creators and not,

628
00:37:00,404 --> 00:37:03,164
you know, have to go through the struggle of like building,

629
00:37:03,244 --> 00:37:06,184
like already being at the top to be seen, you know?

630
00:37:06,444 --> 00:37:08,224
Absolutely. I think, you know, when you're talking about controversy,

631
00:37:08,504 --> 00:37:11,464
some people always say, oh, we can't be controversial, especially in today's world.

632
00:37:11,564 --> 00:37:14,724
But I think realistically, controversy is art and art is freedom,

633
00:37:14,804 --> 00:37:17,004
right? Because if you can't, you're not allowed to express yourself.

634
00:37:17,124 --> 00:37:19,944
What can you do, especially in the world that we live in America right now?

635
00:37:20,004 --> 00:37:23,044
It's very divisive, right? Right. And so being able to be controversial,

636
00:37:23,164 --> 00:37:25,724
I think, is what makes kind of America kind of great. Right.

637
00:37:25,744 --> 00:37:27,404
That you're able to do that without some censorship.

638
00:37:27,664 --> 00:37:32,904
So what are some of your personal favorite movies that you guys have here that we see here?

639
00:37:34,264 --> 00:37:39,004
Well, here, I'm not so sure because this are all the films that are kind of

640
00:37:39,004 --> 00:37:41,304
older. And that's why we are doing a DVD.

641
00:37:41,584 --> 00:37:46,404
Yeah. Some of the newer films are like a streaming more on streaming services.

642
00:37:46,404 --> 00:37:50,364
And my favorite one is the one that I was mentioning the hounds That's like

643
00:37:50,364 --> 00:37:53,384
a recently favorite one and one of like the older one.

644
00:37:53,564 --> 00:37:56,864
I think it's a comedy, but I can't remember up the name It's okay.

645
00:37:56,924 --> 00:38:00,384
No, I'm sorry, but that's okay That just means our audience has to go find out

646
00:38:00,384 --> 00:38:03,184
what your favorite is So they're gonna watch all the movies and be like,

647
00:38:03,224 --> 00:38:03,984
I think this is his favorite.

648
00:38:04,044 --> 00:38:07,244
What about you? What's your favorite one? What was the one that we're working on? It says with a P.

649
00:38:07,744 --> 00:38:10,304
Oh Petrol petrol.

650
00:38:12,151 --> 00:38:18,291
Troll or petrol, I guess. I'm not sure. Petrol. I guess. Okay. Yeah.

651
00:38:18,691 --> 00:38:22,071
So you're working on that right now? Yes. So we're doing the design work for

652
00:38:22,071 --> 00:38:24,511
that right now. And it's a very interesting film.

653
00:38:24,611 --> 00:38:26,971
I'm very artsy, you know, very artistic.

654
00:38:27,131 --> 00:38:31,311
And that one is a film where it's really for art students, I feel.

655
00:38:31,331 --> 00:38:32,531
I feel like that's their main audience.

656
00:38:32,871 --> 00:38:36,151
It's very, like a very psychological film, I'd say.

657
00:38:36,511 --> 00:38:41,091
Yeah. Awesome. So I guess my last question is where can our audience like really watch your movies,

658
00:38:41,091 --> 00:38:43,871
buy your movies all that good stuff all of

659
00:38:43,871 --> 00:38:47,191
the streaming services uh we have amazon prime and

660
00:38:47,191 --> 00:38:50,051
also i if you check out our website that will

661
00:38:50,051 --> 00:38:52,811
just take you to all the different options out there

662
00:38:52,811 --> 00:38:58,951
like hbo max uh pretty much like any and what's the website uh indikinpictures.com

663
00:38:58,951 --> 00:39:03,171
okay so this particular episode that i'm doing right now is actually sponsored

664
00:39:03,171 --> 00:39:07,471
by a cannabis company so i have a question for you i don't know if you partake

665
00:39:07,471 --> 00:39:10,171
in cannabis but i think all of us kind of do at some point.

666
00:39:10,271 --> 00:39:14,151
But let me ask you this. What's your favorite way to call cannabis cannabis?

667
00:39:14,511 --> 00:39:17,911
You know, people say devil's lettuce. They say dank. They say whatever.

668
00:39:18,171 --> 00:39:21,411
What would be your favorite one? I'm very traditional. I just say weed.

669
00:39:22,611 --> 00:39:26,431
Okay. Okay. I love that. What is your favorite way to cannabis?

670
00:39:27,211 --> 00:39:30,511
Probably weed too. Okay. I love it. I love it. Awesome.

671
00:39:30,671 --> 00:39:32,871
Well, remember everybody, this episode is sponsored by Embark.

672
00:39:32,931 --> 00:39:36,231
Remember, go to goembark.com. But thank you guys so much really for your time.

673
00:39:36,611 --> 00:39:39,311
Go check them out. And can you say that website one more time where they can

674
00:39:39,311 --> 00:39:40,231
look at your guys' pictures?

675
00:39:41,551 --> 00:39:44,291
IndikenPictures.com. Very easy. Go check them out. And you guys have any social

676
00:39:44,291 --> 00:39:48,551
media or anything? Yeah. We have an Instagram. Is it just IndikenPictures?

677
00:39:49,171 --> 00:39:52,191
IndikenPictures. Easy peasy. Alright, everybody. Be sure to check them out,

678
00:39:52,251 --> 00:39:53,351
and we'll be right back after this break.

679
00:39:55,471 --> 00:39:58,871
Hey, everybody. This is Jacob Bruner from Empire Strikes Brass,

680
00:39:59,331 --> 00:40:01,871
and you are listening to Uncle Dad Talks.

681
00:40:02,691 --> 00:40:05,491
Alright, everybody. Uncle Dad here. Mike, say hello. Hello, hello.

682
00:40:05,711 --> 00:40:09,551
Mike, I'm very nervous right now. It's your turn. I know it's my turn to be nervous.

683
00:40:09,651 --> 00:40:13,711
This guy that I'm sitting next to means the absolute world to me.

684
00:40:13,811 --> 00:40:15,531
His films changed my life.

685
00:40:15,691 --> 00:40:18,811
It's one of the reasons why I do what I do.

686
00:40:19,803 --> 00:40:24,483
There's three people that influenced me to do talking to people and conversating and all that stuff.

687
00:40:24,683 --> 00:40:28,303
And that's Kevin Smith, James, the Nintendo nerd or video game nerd.

688
00:40:28,623 --> 00:40:33,863
And of course, Lloyd Kaufman, who just fell asleep because he is so used to

689
00:40:33,863 --> 00:40:35,663
everybody saying how great he is.

690
00:40:36,163 --> 00:40:40,003
As long as introduction, nobody knows me anyway. Well, I do.

691
00:40:40,123 --> 00:40:45,303
And I, and I am so grateful for your time. Well, thank you. And I'm here with, uh, Christy Rose.

692
00:40:45,683 --> 00:40:51,143
Hello. One of the stars of Hashtag Shakespeare Shitstorm, who's nice enough

693
00:40:51,143 --> 00:40:59,363
to be in charge of the wardrobe department here at the Chomart here at San Diego Comic-Con.

694
00:40:59,683 --> 00:41:04,123
How was it, Christy Rose, on Hashtag Shakespeare Shitstorm?

695
00:41:04,503 --> 00:41:09,043
Well, it's always fun to be a glorified actor person is what we call extras.

696
00:41:09,223 --> 00:41:10,763
They're not extras. They're actor people.

697
00:41:11,163 --> 00:41:17,643
And it turns out that it was going to be, I don't know, life-changing for me.

698
00:41:17,743 --> 00:41:21,663
I didn't realize that at the time. And then, yeah, I'm Troma for Life now.

699
00:41:21,903 --> 00:41:27,383
And Lloyd is actually shooting a new film coming out of retirement, huh?

700
00:41:27,843 --> 00:41:31,443
Well, I wasn't retired, but I've definitely seen it.

701
00:41:31,643 --> 00:41:36,343
Yes, a new movie based on Dostoevsky's Crime and Punishment,

702
00:41:36,483 --> 00:41:43,043
a hilarious slapstick. The Three Stooges used that as their source for most of their oeuvre.

703
00:41:43,743 --> 00:41:48,063
At any rate, what else can we talk about? Well, you're casting for it.

704
00:41:48,143 --> 00:41:52,243
And so if I was an actor person and it changed my life and you're casting right

705
00:41:52,243 --> 00:41:57,423
now, I was trying to just segue into slime and cumishment or what is it called?

706
00:41:57,663 --> 00:42:00,863
Well, it's when you speak of casting, you're not talking about fishing,

707
00:42:01,063 --> 00:42:04,283
I take it. You're talking about not fly casting.

708
00:42:05,083 --> 00:42:09,863
No, I am from Idaho. So if you want to fly fish, let's go. Hey, Idaho's a nice place.

709
00:42:10,163 --> 00:42:13,103
My son-in-law's to Idaho. Everybody's going to Idaho.

710
00:42:13,643 --> 00:42:16,603
They thought you were there, but you've moved to San Diego.

711
00:42:18,043 --> 00:42:19,503
Idaho, you'd have pimped.

712
00:42:21,786 --> 00:42:26,706
We don't even have to work do you want to do a podcast like,

713
00:42:28,166 --> 00:42:34,906
just taking trauma has taken over Lloyd first off thank you that's a great intro,

714
00:42:35,806 --> 00:42:41,326
hashtag I think Christy Rose has brought Mike out of his shell did she Mike

715
00:42:41,326 --> 00:42:42,486
something happened I don't know,

716
00:42:43,286 --> 00:42:47,426
that's usually what happens with Mike Mike usually gets he gets everybody likes

717
00:42:47,426 --> 00:42:51,406
Mike of course nobody likes me either Oh, no.

718
00:42:52,526 --> 00:42:59,806
That's why I'm here. I'm very hard to get. Uncle Lloydy doesn't just turn down the New York Times.

719
00:43:00,186 --> 00:43:03,806
Okay. See, so Uncle Dad and Uncle Lloydy. Wow, that's a combo in heaven right

720
00:43:03,806 --> 00:43:08,146
there. So when we talk about your whole entire career, I have to ask one major question.

721
00:43:08,806 --> 00:43:10,806
What has been your least favorite film you worked on?

722
00:43:11,486 --> 00:43:13,626
Well, that I've worked on?

723
00:43:14,866 --> 00:43:18,206
Well, Saturday Night Fever. That was horrible to work on.

724
00:43:18,526 --> 00:43:21,746
Did you really work on that? It's a great movie. It's a wonderful movie,

725
00:43:21,926 --> 00:43:24,166
but the job I had was awful. What was the job?

726
00:43:24,426 --> 00:43:29,606
It was executive in charge of locations, and they shot it for what was considered

727
00:43:29,606 --> 00:43:34,166
a small budget, so I had to go out and get all these people to give us their houses,

728
00:43:34,906 --> 00:43:39,686
and it was all on location, so it was horrible. What's your favorite line from that movie?

729
00:43:40,126 --> 00:43:42,906
For that one? Your mother's sauce don't drip.

730
00:43:44,506 --> 00:43:47,086
Mike, I know you had a question about something. Well, what's your favorite

731
00:43:47,086 --> 00:43:49,026
line from that movie? Oh, that's my pussy finger.

732
00:43:49,386 --> 00:43:53,966
Oh, pretty good. You know, Lloyd, like you, like it's what, 40 years?

733
00:43:54,786 --> 00:43:59,486
This year is 40 years of, since you did the first Toxic Avenger.

734
00:44:00,701 --> 00:44:08,741
So what is it about him that you think that has transcended decades, like four decades now?

735
00:44:08,861 --> 00:44:13,361
People still love it. People still see it. You have a booth here at Comic-Con.

736
00:44:13,461 --> 00:44:14,941
What is it about this character?

737
00:44:15,581 --> 00:44:19,881
Well, a few people read books, but I can tell you're very uneducated.

738
00:44:20,381 --> 00:44:24,141
I've written some books in which I discuss the Toxic Avenger.

739
00:44:24,461 --> 00:44:28,581
If that's what you were asking about, I don't remember. and well,

740
00:44:28,721 --> 00:44:33,801
Stan Lee wrote the, he and I were buddies for a long time, over 50 years.

741
00:44:34,061 --> 00:44:39,561
So he wrote an intro to one of my books in which he said that like Spidey,

742
00:44:39,601 --> 00:44:46,181
Toxie put a new face on the cinematic super human hero because he's got,

743
00:44:46,241 --> 00:44:50,921
what makes him a hero is that he solves his earthly issues.

744
00:44:51,121 --> 00:44:56,341
He's true to his significant other. He takes care of his mom. He's got skin problems.

745
00:44:57,041 --> 00:45:03,441
And the only mop is he's a janitor after all. So, you know, he's got pathos.

746
00:45:04,241 --> 00:45:09,501
My stepmother cried through the first investor screening of the original Toxic

747
00:45:09,501 --> 00:45:16,481
Avenger to which she brought Lenny Riefenstahl, famous German female, non-cis identified,

748
00:45:16,781 --> 00:45:19,341
non-male cis filmmaker.

749
00:45:19,861 --> 00:45:24,981
You know, the movie that changed my life when I saw it was Tromeo and Juliet because that,

750
00:45:25,001 --> 00:45:27,741
Romeo and Juliet is one of my favorite about stories of all time period but you made it in such

751
00:45:27,741 --> 00:45:30,941
a way where it was you know honestly to

752
00:45:30,941 --> 00:45:34,061
me it's way ahead of its time it's still ahead of its time in my opinion you touch

753
00:45:34,061 --> 00:45:37,621
on so many things when you made that film i'm just

754
00:45:37,621 --> 00:45:41,741
curious where does shakespeare like land for you in writing well the tempest

755
00:45:41,741 --> 00:45:46,921
is my favorite of shakespeare plays and most recent film that i've directed

756
00:45:46,921 --> 00:45:53,861
until the dostoevsky which is not dostoevsky nor is the nor is hashtag shakespeare

757
00:45:53,861 --> 00:45:55,701
shitstorm or The Tempest.

758
00:45:55,761 --> 00:45:59,241
You can enjoy it either way, if you've seen it or not seen it.

759
00:45:59,421 --> 00:46:03,181
But that was always my favorite play from the time I was in eighth grade.

760
00:46:03,301 --> 00:46:08,281
I was intrigued by it and saw it on stage with Morris Karanowski.

761
00:46:08,621 --> 00:46:13,301
And, you know, it's about, I waited till I was old to do it because Prospero

762
00:46:13,301 --> 00:46:14,821
is old. He's losing power.

763
00:46:15,481 --> 00:46:21,781
That's my issue. There's magic in the movie. We make magic as a The movies are magic.

764
00:46:22,101 --> 00:46:26,481
There's a monster. There's a romantic couple who make hot monkey love.

765
00:46:27,721 --> 00:46:34,781
There's mythical creatures running around and fairies, rather. No, not like you. No.

766
00:46:35,361 --> 00:46:39,221
Definitely not like me. I know. Those are like the storybook fairies.

767
00:46:39,241 --> 00:46:41,421
And it's a wonderful play. It's beautiful.

768
00:46:41,761 --> 00:46:45,841
And arguably, it's Shakespeare's very last. Yes. Yeah, that's true.

769
00:46:46,001 --> 00:46:48,441
Yeah. So before we wrap up here, because I don't want to take too much of your time.

770
00:46:49,376 --> 00:46:54,016
I'm just, what can we expect from the future of Troma for another 50 years?

771
00:46:54,316 --> 00:46:58,556
Well, Troma Now, our streaming service, Mike has already subscribed.

772
00:46:59,036 --> 00:47:06,616
It's 50 years of Troma movies. And Christy Rose is in hashtag Shakespeare shitstorm. You can't miss her.

773
00:47:07,276 --> 00:47:13,796
And you'll see 50 years of failed cinema. I mean, 50 years of legendary underground movie making.

774
00:47:13,976 --> 00:47:16,916
About a thousand movies. movies and mike as you

775
00:47:16,916 --> 00:47:20,216
know first month absolutely free do you

776
00:47:20,216 --> 00:47:23,096
know that mike that's right that's right yes so what and

777
00:47:23,096 --> 00:47:26,316
then it's only 4.99 but what mike did he signed

778
00:47:26,316 --> 00:47:29,776
up for a second month under under uh uncle

779
00:47:29,776 --> 00:47:33,116
dad's email so uh clearly you

780
00:47:33,116 --> 00:47:36,096
just keep switching different email clearly lloyd

781
00:47:36,096 --> 00:47:38,856
you you're overseeing all actions that are

782
00:47:38,856 --> 00:47:42,076
taking place because you totally figured me out i'm totally caught red-handed

783
00:47:42,076 --> 00:47:44,996
yeah he knows how he figured you out mike he's like i just don't

784
00:47:44,996 --> 00:47:47,856
trust this guy huh well that's why uh you know like i

785
00:47:47,856 --> 00:47:51,256
could feel that mike and i have probably

786
00:47:51,256 --> 00:47:54,276
wear spirit animals you can't actually

787
00:47:54,276 --> 00:47:57,816
can't say spirit animals that's uh appropriating from

788
00:47:57,816 --> 00:48:00,736
the people for whom i'm wearing this tie to whom

789
00:48:00,736 --> 00:48:04,396
i donate money instead of yale university but

790
00:48:04,396 --> 00:48:08,076
if you watch the morning show that's an issue the weatherman

791
00:48:08,076 --> 00:48:11,376
says mentioned spirit animal and

792
00:48:11,376 --> 00:48:18,816
he's not a basic Native American so he takes a lot of shit from the cancel people

793
00:48:18,816 --> 00:48:26,476
but that's what hashtag Shakespeare is all about right cancel age cancel culture

794
00:48:26,476 --> 00:48:29,316
hashtag cancel Kaufman I'm just kidding.

795
00:48:30,656 --> 00:48:38,436
KKK and what better way to end the show there we go we'll be right back after

796
00:48:38,436 --> 00:48:44,016
this break all right as all good things must come to an end well we're not really

797
00:48:44,016 --> 00:48:49,496
ending but day two is over day two of the exclusive brought the brought to you exclusively by,

798
00:48:50,776 --> 00:48:55,676
goembark.com and of course that's embark supply right mike you're absolutely

799
00:48:55,676 --> 00:49:00,816
correct i'm very proud of you thank you i remembered that uh and of course that's

800
00:49:00,816 --> 00:49:04,496
where you got to go to get the best weed in california yeah so mike let's talk

801
00:49:04,496 --> 00:49:09,816
about our day today what a day so many tribulations, no trials.

802
00:49:10,936 --> 00:49:14,176
Well, and it's only Thursday, so there's more to...

803
00:49:15,861 --> 00:49:20,301
Trial room, right? Yes, we both got to talk to some of the people that we really

804
00:49:20,301 --> 00:49:22,521
admire in the industry, so that was really cool.

805
00:49:23,101 --> 00:49:27,781
I also want to point out, you and I took kind of the back seat on the Lloyd Kaufman one, huh?

806
00:49:28,641 --> 00:49:33,621
Hey, easy work, huh? Yeah, work smarter, not harder.

807
00:49:33,841 --> 00:49:35,961
Indeed, and you know what? That's what Lloyd Kaufman would do,

808
00:49:35,981 --> 00:49:39,201
right? He would work smarter, so we took his advice. Would you agree?

809
00:49:39,421 --> 00:49:43,681
He seemed like he knows how to work, depending on how he was just lounging in

810
00:49:43,681 --> 00:49:47,641
that chair back there, so yeah. And dude, 50 years, of course you know how to

811
00:49:47,641 --> 00:49:49,261
do it, right? You probably figured something out.

812
00:49:49,581 --> 00:49:53,321
Exactly. One day when we're doing this show, 50 years in the future,

813
00:49:53,521 --> 00:49:56,841
we'll be the same way. What do you think? Oh, God.

814
00:49:58,501 --> 00:50:04,781
50 years of Uncle Dad Talks. We probably will be Uncle Dads. Dead dads.

815
00:50:07,741 --> 00:50:10,641
So, Mike, before we wrap up, we should play a game.

816
00:50:10,641 --> 00:50:16,521
And I want to include our very lovely guest Callie Dunlapart the game is going

817
00:50:16,521 --> 00:50:20,641
to be our new favorite called Two of a Kind Two of a Kind the way it works is

818
00:50:20,641 --> 00:50:22,941
we say a category and you have to say the same,

819
00:50:23,841 --> 00:50:26,401
word that comes to your or you have to say the word first word that comes to

820
00:50:26,401 --> 00:50:30,461
your mind so an example would be for our audience would be Marvel Super Hero

821
00:50:30,461 --> 00:50:36,161
1, 3, 2, 1 we both would say Batman wait I wouldn't say Batman,

822
00:50:37,641 --> 00:50:40,341
I mean you could because you would screw it

823
00:50:40,341 --> 00:50:43,401
up but yeah you're right so for today's

824
00:50:43,401 --> 00:50:46,841
version because we have embark sponsoring we're gonna

825
00:50:46,841 --> 00:50:49,641
do what is your favorite or sorry

826
00:50:49,641 --> 00:50:57,561
a strain of weed a strain of weed would be indica sativa right so a strain of

827
00:50:57,561 --> 00:51:07,501
weed ready are you guys in sync we'll find out at the end at the end of one three two one.

828
00:51:11,761 --> 00:51:14,661
Why indica scares me because it's nicknamed in

829
00:51:14,661 --> 00:51:17,881
the couch exactly and that scares me and

830
00:51:17,881 --> 00:51:21,761
that's why they call it scary it's too much that's another nickname for weed

831
00:51:21,761 --> 00:51:27,361
is scary so mike again not in sync but that's okay but you can be in sync by

832
00:51:27,361 --> 00:51:31,721
going to goembark.com to getting the best weed in town period in california

833
00:51:31,721 --> 00:51:35,261
so go check them out i will be right back after this break unless mike Mike, you got some last words.

834
00:51:35,601 --> 00:51:38,041
I like it because I want to go to sleep.

835
00:51:38,701 --> 00:51:41,321
That's a good point. All right, everybody. We'll be right back after this break.

836
00:51:43,141 --> 00:51:45,821
All right. It's day... What day is it, Mike?

837
00:51:47,432 --> 00:51:51,732
Day of the week, is it? I don't know what day anything is. Well, today's Friday.

838
00:51:52,152 --> 00:51:57,132
Today is the second official day of Comic-Con, but third day that we've been

839
00:51:57,132 --> 00:52:01,232
here because we were also here for preview night. Oh, you actually separate those then?

840
00:52:01,792 --> 00:52:06,872
Yeah, because if you look at here on the badge, there's... Our audience can't

841
00:52:06,872 --> 00:52:08,772
see? Yeah, I'm going to explain it to them. Okay.

842
00:52:09,932 --> 00:52:15,572
Everyone's badge on the side has a list of numbers, is one, two,

843
00:52:15,672 --> 00:52:17,572
three, four, and a P for preview night.

844
00:52:17,772 --> 00:52:21,652
And so whenever it's highlighted on your badge is the times that you're allowed

845
00:52:21,652 --> 00:52:23,632
to be here. Thank you for that information.

846
00:52:24,132 --> 00:52:28,592
And it's separated. Oh, okay. For those who didn't know, now they wanted to know.

847
00:52:30,112 --> 00:52:33,392
Mikey, yes, we're here. Today we got some exciting stuff. We're doing something

848
00:52:33,392 --> 00:52:37,512
with Texas Chainsaw Massacre, who will actually be guest hosted with a very

849
00:52:37,512 --> 00:52:38,992
good friend of yours. Who's that?

850
00:52:39,412 --> 00:52:43,632
The Rocket Monster. That's right. He loves horror. You don't love horror so much?

851
00:52:44,132 --> 00:52:47,192
It's going to be a good time, I think. We also are going to talk to a science

852
00:52:47,192 --> 00:52:50,972
advisor. I think that's really exciting. I don't think we've ever had somebody

853
00:52:50,972 --> 00:52:51,832
like that on the show yet.

854
00:52:52,412 --> 00:52:55,872
Yeah, I don't think we've really dived deep into science exploration.

855
00:52:56,492 --> 00:52:57,572
What do you mean, deep into space?

856
00:52:58,392 --> 00:53:02,012
Or that. Or the next generation? You get what I'm doing here?

857
00:53:02,152 --> 00:53:07,532
Yeah, you're tickling the listener's bosom with a feather. Their bosom, yes, indeed.

858
00:53:08,852 --> 00:53:12,772
But another thing that tickles bosoms is my favorite thing to do,

859
00:53:12,792 --> 00:53:17,892
and that's smoke cannabis. And the only way to get cannabis is really the best place in California.

860
00:53:18,232 --> 00:53:23,152
And they are exclusively sponsoring this show. What is the name of that cannabis brand?

861
00:53:24,032 --> 00:53:28,452
Embark. Embark, indeed. And you need to embark on that journey and go to GoEmbark.com.

862
00:53:28,772 --> 00:53:32,552
Go check it out. They have the best cannabis product, period.

863
00:53:32,652 --> 00:53:34,872
Isn't that right, Mike? That's what I've heard.

864
00:53:35,312 --> 00:53:39,572
Yes. Throughout this whole weekend. I know. I want to keep hearing it as we continue our days.

865
00:53:39,792 --> 00:53:43,972
And you love it, though. I love it. Yeah, who doesn't? We'll be right back after this break.

866
00:53:45,875 --> 00:53:49,475
All right, everybody. Uncle Dad here, hanging out with the one and only Just Mike. That's right.

867
00:53:49,855 --> 00:53:53,815
Just Mike. But we had a very special guest, and I'm going to allow her to introduce

868
00:53:53,815 --> 00:53:57,915
herself because I don't think I could do it justice because she's brilliant in all sorts of ways.

869
00:53:58,355 --> 00:54:01,115
If you may, introduce yourself to our audience, please. Sure.

870
00:54:01,235 --> 00:54:04,215
I am Erin McDonald, otherwise known as Dr. Erin.

871
00:54:04,415 --> 00:54:09,375
I am an astrophysicist, PhD, and I am the science advisor for the Star Trek franchise.

872
00:54:10,155 --> 00:54:13,595
Wow, Mike. This is probably the most impressive person to ever be on the show.

873
00:54:14,035 --> 00:54:17,535
Franchise advisor. Yes, I would say so. Absolutely. We've never had anybody

874
00:54:17,535 --> 00:54:20,855
as intelligent as you. So I feel scared.

875
00:54:21,535 --> 00:54:26,115
I feel like my intelligence goes up just a little just because we're with you here. Yes.

876
00:54:26,575 --> 00:54:30,535
There we go. So I think one way I want to talk about is the Star Trek franchise, right?

877
00:54:30,755 --> 00:54:34,415
And I want to know, were you always a fan of Star Trek or is it just something

878
00:54:34,415 --> 00:54:35,775
you kind of got into later in life?

879
00:54:36,135 --> 00:54:39,895
Later in life, but before I started working for it, it was basically when I was in college.

880
00:54:39,895 --> 00:54:43,035
There's a big i joke that like the venn diagram of physics

881
00:54:43,035 --> 00:54:46,175
majors and star trek fans has a big overlap and

882
00:54:46,175 --> 00:54:48,955
so going through my undergraduate degree i

883
00:54:48,955 --> 00:54:51,955
was hanging out with a lot of star trek fans and we'd be having parties and

884
00:54:51,955 --> 00:54:55,155
they would have star trek on in the background and playing drinking games and

885
00:54:55,155 --> 00:54:59,115
they were like i made the mistake of saying i'd never seen a whole episode and

886
00:54:59,115 --> 00:55:02,915
so that's where it started but i fell in love very fast so it was absolutely

887
00:55:02,915 --> 00:55:07,415
my jam So I got to step back a second. There's drinking games for Star Trek?

888
00:55:08,535 --> 00:55:13,015
Yes, there are. You could do the Picard maneuver every time he tugs down on his uniform.

889
00:55:13,275 --> 00:55:17,975
Every time Riker swings his leg over the chair, you can get quite a few in there.

890
00:55:18,195 --> 00:55:19,835
Okay, so what are your top three drinking games?

891
00:55:20,895 --> 00:55:25,315
I'm kidding. You don't have to answer that. Mike, I know you must be curious of something.

892
00:55:25,475 --> 00:55:30,495
I'm curious of what was the thing that caused the most drinks?

893
00:55:30,895 --> 00:55:33,835
Oh, definitely the Picard maneuver. the tugging down

894
00:55:33,835 --> 00:55:36,775
on the uniform that'll do it that'll mess you up pretty fast yeah

895
00:55:36,775 --> 00:55:39,595
you gotta play that tonight i never knew that never really even

896
00:55:39,595 --> 00:55:43,035
noticed that but i guess now i gotta go back and watch yeah so

897
00:55:43,035 --> 00:55:46,455
you know what's it's interesting how those moments like shape your life right

898
00:55:46,455 --> 00:55:49,495
like you're just having a good time and then one day you end up working for

899
00:55:49,495 --> 00:55:54,055
them what was that progress like to get to that point i mean it always was sort

900
00:55:54,055 --> 00:55:57,775
of fan first like i actually got my start once i left academia and i missed

901
00:55:57,775 --> 00:56:01,415
teaching i would come to conventions and give talks on the science behind science fiction.

902
00:56:01,515 --> 00:56:05,275
I would talk about Star Trek or Mass Effect or all these other franchises that I was super into.

903
00:56:05,655 --> 00:56:09,315
And yeah, then CBS heard about my Star Trek talks and invited me to come to

904
00:56:09,315 --> 00:56:12,475
their official events. And that's kind of how I got on their radar.

905
00:56:12,575 --> 00:56:13,495
And it just went from there.

906
00:56:14,395 --> 00:56:18,195
Just with intention, right, Mike? Yeah, intention, manifestation, maybe a little bit.

907
00:56:18,495 --> 00:56:24,095
But it's also interesting to know that they actually do use real science in

908
00:56:24,095 --> 00:56:25,135
the story writing, right?

909
00:56:25,835 --> 00:56:30,835
So is there a lot of stuff that you know that's coming in the future that the

910
00:56:30,835 --> 00:56:33,395
general public and people like us don't know?

911
00:56:34,135 --> 00:56:40,115
I mean, it's a good question because a lot of my work is very futurism almost

912
00:56:40,115 --> 00:56:43,695
of predicting what we're going to... I don't have any foresight into it.

913
00:56:43,695 --> 00:56:45,855
But I mean, that is what we do, right?

914
00:56:45,935 --> 00:56:49,915
We look at a technology we have now and we kind of extend that into what we

915
00:56:49,915 --> 00:56:50,435
would have in the future.

916
00:56:50,535 --> 00:56:53,955
And if you go all the way back to like 1966 when Star Trek first aired,

917
00:56:54,075 --> 00:56:56,295
they were using stuff that's commonplace now, right?

918
00:56:56,375 --> 00:57:00,815
Flip phones are like out of date. And that was the cool future technology they had on that show.

919
00:57:00,995 --> 00:57:03,595
So, you know, we'll, we'll see. We keep progressing.

920
00:57:03,815 --> 00:57:06,035
No predictions for me and Mike. Sorry.

921
00:57:07,095 --> 00:57:09,815
I was hoping for that. Yeah. Well, you know, my, my,

922
00:57:09,915 --> 00:57:12,655
my stepfather loved the old Star star trek from

923
00:57:12,655 --> 00:57:15,515
the 60s show and uh he would talk about

924
00:57:15,515 --> 00:57:18,675
that like there's stuff that they were doing you know on that show that was

925
00:57:18,675 --> 00:57:24,075
like unconceivable you know now is like you're saying almost out of date right

926
00:57:24,075 --> 00:57:30,355
so it's just really cool that science fiction actually has real science and

927
00:57:30,355 --> 00:57:33,715
it's not just fiction and so i kind of touched on something really fast about

928
00:57:33,715 --> 00:57:34,495
you brought up mass effect.

929
00:57:35,015 --> 00:57:38,115
So i know that sounds like i know you don't work in that right or okay

930
00:57:38,115 --> 00:57:41,235
i'm just a nerd so i bring bringing that up because like

931
00:57:41,235 --> 00:57:44,135
you can't bring a mass effect and not talk about it for a second because it's truly

932
00:57:44,135 --> 00:57:47,455
in my opinion one of the greatest video games ever created especially

933
00:57:47,455 --> 00:57:50,155
with the science aspect of things so we never got i've

934
00:57:50,155 --> 00:57:52,675
never got an opportunity to talk to somebody about this so i'm just curious

935
00:57:52,675 --> 00:57:56,875
how accurate is it truly oh heck yeah i'm so excited first of all i have a normandy

936
00:57:56,875 --> 00:58:02,135
tattooed on my arm like i am a hardcore mass effect fan but one of the things

937
00:58:02,135 --> 00:58:05,715
i love about it is like you said the science is really good if you go through

938
00:58:05,715 --> 00:58:09,155
the codex and you like actually read the science behind Mass Effect.

939
00:58:09,335 --> 00:58:11,715
I mean, even the title, right, is called Mass Effect.

940
00:58:12,015 --> 00:58:16,715
And it's this whole idea that humans discover a particle called element zero,

941
00:58:17,175 --> 00:58:20,895
which when you run a current through it allows you to manipulate space time

942
00:58:20,895 --> 00:58:23,155
so you can like artificially create a gravity well.

943
00:58:23,415 --> 00:58:27,515
And you can do a lot of stuff when you're able to do that, both inverting a

944
00:58:27,515 --> 00:58:30,595
gravity well, so it basically pushes you faster than the speed of light,

945
00:58:30,675 --> 00:58:33,195
or creating artificial gravity. It's all element zero.

946
00:58:33,295 --> 00:58:37,255
It's all the literal Mass Effect. and there's some really good science in that

947
00:58:37,255 --> 00:58:40,155
series yeah you just blew my he doesn't know what we're talking about he's not

948
00:58:40,155 --> 00:58:46,235
a big gamer but his mind is blown right now i'm so i'm just i'm i'm blown now

949
00:58:46,235 --> 00:58:49,595
also you not only are you involved but you also play a fictitious,

950
00:58:50,315 --> 00:58:55,035
character of yourself i know mike you had a question about that like so how

951
00:58:55,035 --> 00:58:58,935
much of your real self is in your fictitional character of yourself or do you

952
00:58:58,935 --> 00:59:00,935
get to act like a completely different version of yourself.

953
00:59:01,792 --> 00:59:04,092
It is very much me. I mean, they

954
00:59:04,092 --> 00:59:08,032
named it Dr. Aaron McDonald and I am a professor at Starfleet Academy.

955
00:59:08,492 --> 00:59:14,012
And I mean, originally I appeared in season one at the very end to meet the

956
00:59:14,012 --> 00:59:17,492
character Rock Talk because she's the young girl who really wants to get into science.

957
00:59:17,672 --> 00:59:21,652
And so the showrunners were like, you know, they used me a lot of like my growing

958
00:59:21,652 --> 00:59:23,532
up to kind of help shape that character.

959
00:59:23,612 --> 00:59:26,132
So they were like, well, she has to meet Dr. Aaron at Starfleet Academy.

960
00:59:26,412 --> 00:59:28,832
And then so they have me as a character already.

961
00:59:29,172 --> 00:59:32,832
And as we were going into season two, there's tons of time travel.

962
00:59:32,912 --> 00:59:36,072
And I kept explaining to everyone, like the rules of time travel and how we

963
00:59:36,072 --> 00:59:37,852
would have to do it. And they were like, you know what?

964
00:59:37,972 --> 00:59:40,932
Like, we just need like a Mr. DNA explainer video.

965
00:59:42,732 --> 00:59:46,972
They were like, I think Dr. Aaron should just give us a lesson in temporal mechanics.

966
00:59:47,212 --> 00:59:52,032
And that's how I kind of got that more big role in season two. So yes, it is me.

967
00:59:52,172 --> 00:59:56,072
I don't know if I'm a time I don't know if I get plucked out of our universe

968
00:59:56,072 --> 00:59:58,672
and get put in the Star Trek universe, but I'm not unhappy about it.

969
00:59:58,952 --> 01:00:02,872
So I'm very curious too, like when you saw that version of you in the movie,

970
01:00:03,673 --> 01:00:08,773
Does that blow your mind? Yes. Yeah, it's only myself and Stephen Hawking have

971
01:00:08,773 --> 01:00:12,493
played themselves in Star Trek. And so like no pressure, right?

972
01:00:12,913 --> 01:00:15,733
And, but yeah, I mean, it's great.

973
01:00:15,833 --> 01:00:19,653
I get to cosplay as myself and it's the dream.

974
01:00:19,713 --> 01:00:22,493
Even when I was in grad school, if you'd asked me like what my dream job was,

975
01:00:22,553 --> 01:00:26,453
it was to work at Starfleet Academy, but it was like, well, I can't because it doesn't exist.

976
01:00:26,673 --> 01:00:29,173
And now I do. And that's pretty cool.

977
01:00:29,993 --> 01:00:33,353
So I'm gonna throw this out there. If you ever need any space podcasters on

978
01:00:33,353 --> 01:00:36,153
the show, I think me and Matt can, you know, to see casting,

979
01:00:36,253 --> 01:00:38,593
we can do it, huh, Mike? Yeah, yeah. I'm good at giving space.

980
01:00:39,313 --> 01:00:42,373
Exactly. That's what I meant. I didn't mean going to space. Yes, exactly.

981
01:00:43,213 --> 01:00:46,413
Before we wrap up, though, you're also working on other projects,

982
01:00:46,493 --> 01:00:48,853
too, right? You work on, I'm sorry, correct me if I'm wrong,

983
01:00:48,873 --> 01:00:50,493
there's a film you just did, correct?

984
01:00:50,613 --> 01:00:54,473
Space Cadet. Space Cadet. So Space Cadet just came out on Amazon Prime.

985
01:00:54,693 --> 01:00:56,553
It's basically Legally Blonde Goes to Space.

986
01:00:57,293 --> 01:01:00,633
And it's really fun. It's just a fun family movie. Like, it's hilarious.

987
01:01:00,633 --> 01:01:03,313
Hilarious stoner chick from Florida gets into the NASA program.

988
01:01:03,513 --> 01:01:06,033
And yeah, it's awesome. So highly recommended.

989
01:01:06,333 --> 01:01:08,633
Are NASA people stoners?

990
01:01:09,693 --> 01:01:14,133
I think there's more than you would expect. And I mean, genuinely,

991
01:01:14,193 --> 01:01:17,313
that's something that I try to get across too. It's like, yes,

992
01:01:17,313 --> 01:01:19,073
I'm a scientist, but I'm also covered in tattoos.

993
01:01:19,253 --> 01:01:21,693
I play a lot of video games. I love heavy metal music.

994
01:01:21,893 --> 01:01:25,833
I drink whiskey. We are multifaceted human beings. Are you a stoner?

995
01:01:26,873 --> 01:01:31,573
No, that's in the past for me. Unfortunately, I did some work for the federal

996
01:01:31,573 --> 01:01:34,693
government and you're not a stoner when you do that. But yeah.

997
01:01:34,853 --> 01:01:37,433
So I have a question for you because I've been asking people this question.

998
01:01:37,533 --> 01:01:40,533
It's funny that you bring this up. What is your favorite word to call weed?

999
01:01:40,853 --> 01:01:42,993
You know, people say devil's lettuce or whatever. If you can notice,

1000
01:01:43,033 --> 01:01:44,053
I'm wearing a devil's lettuce shirt.

1001
01:01:44,533 --> 01:01:46,953
Oh, that's a great. Whoa. You're

1002
01:01:46,953 --> 01:01:51,433
like taking me back. I went to college in Boulder, so there was a lot.

1003
01:01:52,973 --> 01:01:57,493
I mean, I feel like, well, my mom went to college at Berkeley.

1004
01:01:57,493 --> 01:02:01,853
So I'm like a generation of this stuff and she still calls it dope.

1005
01:02:03,440 --> 01:02:10,540
OG like yeah the OG like boomer she's like oh yeah that dope that dope I smell that dope don't be a dope,

1006
01:02:11,120 --> 01:02:14,780
it's got a little place in my heart okay okay I like that I like that before

1007
01:02:14,780 --> 01:02:18,000
we wrap up Mike any last questions well since you're talking about weed and

1008
01:02:18,000 --> 01:02:19,320
dope and devil's lettuce,

1009
01:02:20,020 --> 01:02:25,380
and science and space and would you if you smoked weed in space would you get

1010
01:02:25,380 --> 01:02:29,480
higher without since there's no gravity right would you would you would it make

1011
01:02:29,480 --> 01:02:33,020
you higher than it does on earth that's That's a great question.

1012
01:02:33,760 --> 01:02:37,740
I'm going to get weirdly sciencey about this, but this is a beautiful intersection.

1013
01:02:38,020 --> 01:02:41,420
So there is a thing called the observer's effect that they see when astronauts

1014
01:02:41,420 --> 01:02:44,120
go up into space and they look down on Earth for the first time.

1015
01:02:44,140 --> 01:02:47,320
And everyone who's done it is like, you can't describe it.

1016
01:02:47,400 --> 01:02:51,220
There's no way you can achieve that feeling of looking down on this planet with

1017
01:02:51,220 --> 01:02:53,300
a tiny atmosphere that we all live on.

1018
01:02:53,460 --> 01:02:56,500
And so I imagine you already have that going on.

1019
01:02:56,500 --> 01:03:00,840
You want to add some extra enlightening moments

1020
01:03:00,840 --> 01:03:03,760
it would definitely help plus the ratio

1021
01:03:03,760 --> 01:03:06,620
of oxygen to like compared to the oxygen on earth

1022
01:03:06,620 --> 01:03:09,760
is different in space and so it's also going to affect you differently that

1023
01:03:09,760 --> 01:03:15,380
way but i would not i i'd probably go for the gummy route in space not not lighting

1024
01:03:15,380 --> 01:03:20,400
up because fire in space is usually pretty bad i feel like though you take an

1025
01:03:20,400 --> 01:03:23,540
edible in space when it hits you it's not gonna be fun like it's it's not fun

1026
01:03:23,540 --> 01:03:26,340
normally so like Like, you know what I mean? A little more than that. I don't know.

1027
01:03:26,440 --> 01:03:30,760
I don't know. I mean, you would be high and then you'd also be really physically high.

1028
01:03:32,080 --> 01:03:36,220
So well said, Mike. Before we wrap up, I said that three times now, sorry.

1029
01:03:37,120 --> 01:03:39,420
Where can our audience connect with you and learn more about you?

1030
01:03:39,480 --> 01:03:42,380
Absolutely. You can watch Star Trek Prodigy, which is great.

1031
01:03:42,460 --> 01:03:43,640
It's on Netflix right now.

1032
01:03:43,760 --> 01:03:48,980
You can also find me on Instagram and Blue Sky at Dr. Aaron Mack, D-R-E-R-I-N-M-A-C.

1033
01:03:49,160 --> 01:03:52,140
And I've got some videos on YouTube. If you search Dr. Aaron Explains the Universe,

1034
01:03:52,300 --> 01:03:54,400
you can find some videos out there. So thank you.

1035
01:03:54,460 --> 01:03:57,200
I absolutely love that. Go check it out. Maybe you can make your own drinking

1036
01:03:57,200 --> 01:04:00,640
game about it and have a good time. We'll see everybody in a few seconds.

1037
01:04:02,602 --> 01:04:06,142
All right, Uncle Dad hanging out with one of the greatest people in our family of friends.

1038
01:04:06,822 --> 01:04:09,622
We're hanging out with the Brocken Monster. What's up, man? How are you?

1039
01:04:09,862 --> 01:04:13,602
I'm a bit chilling, but you have an important task right now. Oh, what is that?

1040
01:04:14,202 --> 01:04:17,562
As you see, if you haven't heard since you've been around us,

1041
01:04:17,702 --> 01:04:22,202
this episode is sponsored by Go Embark or Embark dispensaries.

1042
01:04:22,422 --> 01:04:24,722
Yeah, the Devil's Lettuce. The Devil's Lettuce, right, yes.

1043
01:04:25,142 --> 01:04:28,162
That's a fun name, right? I love that name. I actually want to make a shirt

1044
01:04:28,162 --> 01:04:31,462
that says the Devil's Lettuce on it. Don't tell Embark because I got that.

1045
01:04:31,622 --> 01:04:34,062
I won't. No, it's going to be in a different font. Okay, good, good.

1046
01:04:34,682 --> 01:04:39,522
But that leads me to a question. What is your favorite way to describe weed?

1047
01:04:39,662 --> 01:04:43,182
What's your favorite word, weed, your weed word? My weed word.

1048
01:04:45,142 --> 01:04:50,362
How about this? Top three weed words. Top three weed words, meaning like how

1049
01:04:50,362 --> 01:04:54,162
I would describe what I'm doing. Hey, I'm smoking dank.

1050
01:04:54,522 --> 01:04:58,042
Hey, I'm smoking perp. I don't talk like that.

1051
01:04:59,422 --> 01:05:04,162
I'm old. I'm old. I get stoned. Okay. That's a good reference at least.

1052
01:05:04,742 --> 01:05:07,062
High as a kite. Okay. Okay. Give me one more.

1053
01:05:09,242 --> 01:05:12,302
Blitzed. Okay. Old school right there. Okay. Well, I'm old.

1054
01:05:14,102 --> 01:05:18,782
Another favorite of mine, we'll put an asterisk on it, is higher than a giraffe's ass.

1055
01:05:19,802 --> 01:05:22,762
That's a new one. That's a good one. That's a good one. All right.

1056
01:05:22,862 --> 01:05:25,862
So remember this, everybody. buddy you can get higher than

1057
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a giraffe's ass when you go to mbark dispensaries all over california the best

1058
01:05:30,562 --> 01:05:34,762
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1059
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who doesn't like premium weed i don't know but whoever does it i don't want

1060
01:05:38,762 --> 01:05:42,962
to know them exactly so the people who do they shop at mbark so go check them

1061
01:05:42,962 --> 01:05:45,142
out go mbark.com and we'll be right back,

1062
01:05:46,982 --> 01:05:51,722
all right everybody uncle dad here hanging out with just mike mike i'm just

1063
01:05:51,722 --> 01:05:54,542
hanging oh that's It's a new one, Just Hangin' Mike. All right.

1064
01:05:55,102 --> 01:05:59,162
We are with one of our first high-caliber guests we ever had.

1065
01:05:59,482 --> 01:06:01,482
And now we've had a slew of them, but that's okay.

1066
01:06:02,622 --> 01:06:05,822
Yeah, he's still our favorite. Let's give it up for the man,

1067
01:06:05,982 --> 01:06:09,702
the myth, the toy-making icon, the one and only, Brian Vogweiss.

1068
01:06:09,922 --> 01:06:11,842
How are you? Thank you for having me back.

1069
01:06:12,242 --> 01:06:15,502
How does it feel to be back? It feels great. It literally feels great.

1070
01:06:15,722 --> 01:06:19,042
I don't know how you guys felt about last year or the year before.

1071
01:06:19,562 --> 01:06:22,802
Last year was weird. The year before was depressing.

1072
01:06:23,482 --> 01:06:26,622
This feels like 2019 like it's

1073
01:06:26,622 --> 01:06:31,622
fucking back like it's like it's crowded it's cool shit i got a bet last year

1074
01:06:31,622 --> 01:06:35,622
i bought one thing the year before i bought nothing like this year i bought

1075
01:06:35,622 --> 01:06:40,762
probably 10 to 12 things like yeah it's it's back so last time you said you

1076
01:06:40,762 --> 01:06:44,222
had to watch your you had to watch your collective so now you don't have to worry about that,

1077
01:06:45,066 --> 01:06:49,366
So, we did move. I do have a bigger collection room.

1078
01:06:49,866 --> 01:06:52,986
That's the good news. The bad news, yeah, it's getting full again.

1079
01:06:53,446 --> 01:06:58,086
So, I'm all ready. Like, did you see the Rattler that Hasbro for a class of...

1080
01:06:58,086 --> 01:07:00,926
Yes, I did. I mean, I need that.

1081
01:07:01,026 --> 01:07:05,166
Like, I need it. Like, I need it. Where am I going to put that?

1082
01:07:06,066 --> 01:07:09,586
Like, that's... I might have to glue it to the fucking ceiling.

1083
01:07:10,066 --> 01:07:12,426
But it's... I need that. But in your kid's room?

1084
01:07:13,446 --> 01:07:16,746
That tells me you don't have kids uh yeah no

1085
01:07:16,746 --> 01:07:19,806
that is the last place on earth it would if you

1086
01:07:19,806 --> 01:07:22,686
want to see what biker mice from mars look like when they've

1087
01:07:22,686 --> 01:07:26,766
been thrown against the wall 89 000 times and i think one of my other kids like

1088
01:07:26,766 --> 01:07:31,686
literally took a shit on throttle then yes you you should you should come put

1089
01:07:31,686 --> 01:07:35,946
put it put the rattler in my kid's room well what do you think about that mike

1090
01:07:35,946 --> 01:07:40,346
sounds like you're having a great time brian with that yeah time it's just not

1091
01:07:40,346 --> 01:07:41,866
the best for It's stuff you care about.

1092
01:07:42,086 --> 01:07:46,026
Yeah, of course, of course. Well, I mean, clearly you should bring them here

1093
01:07:46,026 --> 01:07:48,926
and then let them see what they do here in the convention, no?

1094
01:07:49,406 --> 01:07:56,106
It's funny you say that. This is my first San Diego Comic-Con in five years.

1095
01:07:57,126 --> 01:08:02,466
Technically six because of 2020 that my family's not here. Yeah,

1096
01:08:02,526 --> 01:08:04,466
we just had so, like normally I'm here for one day.

1097
01:08:04,746 --> 01:08:07,826
So I bring them down, we goof around, we have fun, and we go.

1098
01:08:07,826 --> 01:08:13,626
So this year, we're here for three days, and it just couldn't bring the kids. Yeah, bummed me out.

1099
01:08:14,346 --> 01:08:18,966
But that's okay because you're doing hard work because we're going to talk about the Nacelleverse.

1100
01:08:19,586 --> 01:08:22,886
So let's talk about the Nacelleverse. What can you tell our audience about the

1101
01:08:22,886 --> 01:08:27,166
Nacelleverse? Yes. It's not on video. No. I have to put my Pepsi down. No.

1102
01:08:27,846 --> 01:08:31,866
So let's talk about the Nacelleverse. Tell our audience what that is and all the great stuff in it.

1103
01:08:31,926 --> 01:08:35,866
So, I mean, the Nacelleverse is, I mean, sort of to a certain degree what it

1104
01:08:35,866 --> 01:08:38,526
sounds like. The name of our company is Nacelle.

1105
01:08:38,646 --> 01:08:43,446
We have been buying properties like RoboForce, Biker Mice, Sectars,

1106
01:08:43,506 --> 01:08:45,506
whatever, and combining them.

1107
01:08:46,561 --> 01:08:50,261
Into a shared universe. As you could probably guess, I'm not the first person

1108
01:08:50,261 --> 01:08:51,461
to think of this or do this.

1109
01:08:51,761 --> 01:08:55,181
There's a certain company I think has about a 90-year head start on us,

1110
01:08:55,601 --> 01:08:57,541
but we're trying to make up for lost time.

1111
01:08:57,921 --> 01:09:01,041
And what we're doing is, I mean, it really is, literally is,

1112
01:09:01,121 --> 01:09:06,161
and not to sound all highfalutin, but it's a mixed media program.

1113
01:09:07,121 --> 01:09:11,241
So RoboForce, which we're doing with Dwayne, with The Rock, that's six episodes,

1114
01:09:11,361 --> 01:09:14,061
and we're going to be fully done before September. December.

1115
01:09:14,341 --> 01:09:19,501
Biker Mice from Mars, we're doing with Ryan Reynolds, and that's in the script stage now.

1116
01:09:19,781 --> 01:09:23,761
So we should be done with the scripts hopefully by October, and then we start

1117
01:09:23,761 --> 01:09:26,621
the animating somewhere between November and December.

1118
01:09:27,181 --> 01:09:32,481
And then all of these, so in RoboForce, which is the first series,

1119
01:09:32,781 --> 01:09:34,981
all of these have cameos.

1120
01:09:34,981 --> 01:09:39,121
So we're actually later today showcasing

1121
01:09:39,121 --> 01:09:42,101
the first new biker mice from

1122
01:09:42,101 --> 01:09:45,081
mars footage in 17 years and that's

1123
01:09:45,081 --> 01:09:48,121
their cameo from robo force

1124
01:09:48,121 --> 01:09:50,881
and then when biker mice from mars comes

1125
01:09:50,881 --> 01:09:53,941
out the mirror of that scene

1126
01:09:53,941 --> 01:09:56,661
so like in robo force you're like wait

1127
01:09:56,661 --> 01:10:00,781
why are they on earth when you watch biker mice for mars you'll know why they're

1128
01:10:00,781 --> 01:10:05,261
on earth and then you'll see the robo force go by so the inspiration was you

1129
01:10:05,261 --> 01:10:10,241
You remember that scene in Back to the Future 2 where he goes back to the enchantment

1130
01:10:10,241 --> 01:10:15,401
under the sea dance and he's like climbing around himself from Back to the Future 1.

1131
01:10:15,641 --> 01:10:19,521
So we're doing a scene like that with RoboForce and Biker Mice. Yeah.

1132
01:10:19,641 --> 01:10:26,281
And they're all in it. So like the fourth lead of the show is not Stellara, but is a Sectarian.

1133
01:10:26,741 --> 01:10:32,101
So everybody's in it. You see Moo Mesa's walking around, a little bovine action.

1134
01:10:32,101 --> 01:10:37,641
Action so yeah it's it's it's a shared universe and we're we're we're showing

1135
01:10:37,641 --> 01:10:41,821
a lot of footage tonight that's never been seen what one thing i want to point

1136
01:10:41,821 --> 01:10:46,741
out is he said bovine action and i do love me some bovine action so i'm very excited for that.

1137
01:10:48,352 --> 01:10:51,292
What is your memory with these platforms or these platforms, these series?

1138
01:10:51,512 --> 01:10:55,612
Well, I mostly remember biker mice from Mars and great Garlu.

1139
01:10:55,732 --> 01:10:59,272
I think we talked about it last time, mainly because Howard Stern talks about

1140
01:10:59,272 --> 01:11:02,852
that character all the time, but I just think it's really cool that now we're

1141
01:11:02,852 --> 01:11:05,852
at the point where all these different worlds that were all separate,

1142
01:11:06,012 --> 01:11:09,652
you know, you see it with, with all the, like the Marvel movies and stuff.

1143
01:11:10,192 --> 01:11:14,532
They're not like crossing over. And it's so cool that you guys get to do that

1144
01:11:14,532 --> 01:11:17,772
and just have fun with, with, with, with it in every way you can.

1145
01:11:18,352 --> 01:11:21,572
Gar blue check this out oh we

1146
01:11:21,572 --> 01:11:24,532
did this uh exclusive with wall so he's gonna

1147
01:11:24,532 --> 01:11:27,952
have us walk over to there's a shelf here that has a bunch of characters on

1148
01:11:27,952 --> 01:11:30,992
this character we have the figures of the line and

1149
01:11:30,992 --> 01:11:33,852
he's gonna tell us all about it so that yeah that's our nickname for him

1150
01:11:33,852 --> 01:11:36,672
but i'm pretty sure we're gonna make it canon that is gar

1151
01:11:36,672 --> 01:11:39,352
blue so that's those are literally we got the

1152
01:11:39,352 --> 01:11:42,212
walmart pantone numbers for their blue

1153
01:11:42,212 --> 01:11:45,872
and their yellow and that is exclusively sold at

1154
01:11:45,872 --> 01:11:49,252
walmart starting in about six weeks same

1155
01:11:49,252 --> 01:11:52,092
thing that's night fighting dargon i don't know

1156
01:11:52,092 --> 01:11:54,972
which is based on the original repaint i'm not

1157
01:11:54,972 --> 01:11:58,132
sure why if you're fighting at night you want to be bright silver but so

1158
01:11:58,132 --> 01:12:02,092
be it and that's fireproof max 89 which

1159
01:12:02,092 --> 01:12:07,232
is taken from a scene in one of the comic books we did with oni press so yeah

1160
01:12:07,232 --> 01:12:11,092
but yeah if you're a garlu fan hopefully you're going to be a gar blue fan too

1161
01:12:11,092 --> 01:12:15,672
i like it great gar blue yeah gar blue uh you know that brings up the next great

1162
01:12:15,672 --> 01:12:19,072
point is you also have a whole connected universe in the comics as well, correct?

1163
01:12:19,452 --> 01:12:24,512
So this is the exclusive variant of Biker Mice 1 that we're doing for Diamond.

1164
01:12:24,652 --> 01:12:28,492
So these are all Diamond exclusives. We call them the Sports Bros.

1165
01:12:29,032 --> 01:12:33,052
So that comic book, the story is this regular one.

1166
01:12:33,985 --> 01:12:39,845
Every single IP we're doing has at least a three-issue comic book that acts

1167
01:12:39,845 --> 01:12:42,165
as a prequel to the series.

1168
01:12:43,305 --> 01:12:46,105
And that, oh, I thought that was you.

1169
01:12:46,765 --> 01:12:54,005
And so basically between March and the middle of 2025, we're going to have a

1170
01:12:54,005 --> 01:12:55,505
comic book come out every month.

1171
01:12:55,945 --> 01:13:00,305
And Biker Mice, it was just announced, they're doing a full year run.

1172
01:13:00,305 --> 01:13:03,965
So starting basically late

1173
01:13:03,965 --> 01:13:06,945
2024 there's going to be one biker

1174
01:13:06,945 --> 01:13:10,585
mice issue every day every month through early 2026

1175
01:13:10,585 --> 01:13:13,365
yeah we just talked to somebody earlier this this week jeff

1176
01:13:13,365 --> 01:13:16,305
lemire is a famous writer and artist he talked

1177
01:13:16,305 --> 01:13:19,065
about like the dying breed of like the monthly comic so it's

1178
01:13:19,065 --> 01:13:21,825
kind of nice that you guys are doing that because then like we said earlier

1179
01:13:21,825 --> 01:13:24,805
mike it's something you just don't really hear as much it's always a mini series

1180
01:13:24,805 --> 01:13:27,565
or i got three of three so the fact that you guys are doing

1181
01:13:27,565 --> 01:13:30,505
like an actual monthly series that's awesome man it's

1182
01:13:30,505 --> 01:13:33,565
you're keeping you're keeping comics alive right yeah but we're we're

1183
01:13:33,565 --> 01:13:36,745
we're partnered with oni press and they have been absolutely

1184
01:13:36,745 --> 01:13:39,785
we've had no better partner that's amazing that's amazing

1185
01:13:39,785 --> 01:13:42,905
so something else i want to talk about was uh apparently there's

1186
01:13:42,905 --> 01:13:45,845
a chance that a lucky person a lucky listener or

1187
01:13:45,845 --> 01:13:48,765
attendee i guess you would call them at your guys's panel yeah will

1188
01:13:48,765 --> 01:13:52,005
be animated into the series yes that's right so we

1189
01:13:52,005 --> 01:13:55,265
did this at la comic-con last year to great effect and

1190
01:13:55,265 --> 01:13:58,945
we just we want to involve the audience like it sounds cheesy

1191
01:13:58,945 --> 01:14:04,305
or gimmicky maybe and that's fair but it's just cool to engage the audience

1192
01:14:04,305 --> 01:14:09,365
yeah i grew up with that so that's what we try to do make it fun well if you

1193
01:14:09,365 --> 01:14:16,245
ever need podcasters inside your show we're here just just noted uh mike before i wrap up any other.

1194
01:14:16,405 --> 01:14:19,305
Questions you know what i was walking around just not that

1195
01:14:19,305 --> 01:14:22,945
long ago and i saw someone dressed up as one of the biker mice from ours is

1196
01:14:22,945 --> 01:14:28,125
that was that your you guys fabricated that whole contracted with a company

1197
01:14:28,125 --> 01:14:33,505
that makes costumes and that is everybody loves it and i'm really grateful but

1198
01:14:33,505 --> 01:14:38,085
that to call that a prototype would be a staggering understatement.

1199
01:14:38,702 --> 01:14:45,302
Yeah, we got that last week, and we even had notes, and we got new stuff the

1200
01:14:45,302 --> 01:14:47,302
day we drove everything down here.

1201
01:14:47,642 --> 01:14:52,442
So, yes, so we'll be selling those later this year, but they'll look a little different.

1202
01:14:52,742 --> 01:14:58,122
A little different. And last thing, we got to talk about one of my favorite TV shows.

1203
01:14:58,482 --> 01:15:01,522
It's coming back. Toys That Made Us. Toys That Made Us. Let's talk about that

1204
01:15:01,522 --> 01:15:04,262
real fast. So when can we expect that, if you can say, and all that good stuff?

1205
01:15:04,402 --> 01:15:08,722
We've started research this month. We do about five months of research,

1206
01:15:08,822 --> 01:15:11,002
and then we start casting, and then we shoot.

1207
01:15:11,222 --> 01:15:13,782
So we're hoping to have season four out next year.

1208
01:15:14,042 --> 01:15:19,022
Can you tell us any of the toys? When is this going to air? Next week. Oh, yeah. That's fine.

1209
01:15:19,602 --> 01:15:23,002
Hot Wheels. Just a little tickle. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Hot Wheels,

1210
01:15:23,182 --> 01:15:31,422
Ghostbusters, Polly Pocket, Super Heroes, which is primarily Batman and all that stuff.

1211
01:15:31,882 --> 01:15:36,142
I'm so bad at lists. But yeah, that's a good chunk. Wow. Oh,

1212
01:15:36,402 --> 01:15:38,422
you just got Mike excited. Pokemon.

1213
01:15:39,342 --> 01:15:42,342
Whoa. You're excited. There you go. Wow.

1214
01:15:43,542 --> 01:15:46,162
Brian, always a pleasure getting a chance to sit with you, talk with you.

1215
01:15:46,282 --> 01:15:48,902
Such a great time. As always, work on our audience, learn more,

1216
01:15:48,962 --> 01:15:49,762
and connect with your brand.

1217
01:15:50,502 --> 01:15:53,802
I'm on Instagram. So it's my name, Brian Volkweis.

1218
01:15:54,382 --> 01:15:58,202
And it should come up. And then the company is the Nacelle Company.

1219
01:15:58,442 --> 01:16:04,402
And then, of course, Toys That Made Us is our main page for the toy stuff.

1220
01:16:05,122 --> 01:16:09,582
I love it. Any last words? Well, I just, I feel like I was, I was telepathically

1221
01:16:09,582 --> 01:16:14,582
saying Ghostbusters because I love the Ghostbusters toys and all things real

1222
01:16:14,582 --> 01:16:18,122
Ghostbusters. And you said it. And so I feel a tingling inside.

1223
01:16:18,362 --> 01:16:20,802
The number one episode we've been asked for.

1224
01:16:21,904 --> 01:16:24,884
Wow, Mike, you made that happen. Mike made that happen. I made it happen.

1225
01:16:25,004 --> 01:16:28,024
Thanks. Thank you. All right, buddy. We'll be right back after this break.

1226
01:16:28,804 --> 01:16:33,664
What's up, everybody? Like all good things must come to an end. This is now over.

1227
01:16:33,764 --> 01:16:37,764
That's right. San Diego Comic-Con 2024 is now in the books.

1228
01:16:37,864 --> 01:16:40,624
Now, that doesn't mean that we don't have more content coming for you.

1229
01:16:40,724 --> 01:16:45,344
There were some interviews that we had to reschedule due to scheduling conflicts, and that's okay.

1230
01:16:45,464 --> 01:16:50,844
So you may, if we're very lucky, we may get a part two of San Diego Comic-Con

1231
01:16:50,844 --> 01:16:54,724
coverage. In the meantime, though, as we always like to say here,

1232
01:16:54,824 --> 01:16:56,384
we like to end on a positive note.

1233
01:16:56,484 --> 01:17:01,344
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1243
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1244
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Most recently, they did something for California.

1245
01:17:40,503 --> 01:17:42,503
Not outside lands, but they're going to do outside lands too.

1246
01:17:42,603 --> 01:17:45,203
Outside lands, they'll have a whole entire experience there as well.

1247
01:17:45,363 --> 01:17:50,463
And grasslands, they had an experience at Callier Roots. I'm sure they'll do

1248
01:17:50,463 --> 01:17:51,803
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1249
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1254
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1255
01:18:23,283 --> 01:18:26,483
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1256
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1261
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So go over there. Go check them out.

1262
01:18:48,983 --> 01:18:56,003
As I said in this episode, go embark on your own quest and go check out GoEmbark.com.

1263
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And of course, be sure to follow them at Embark Supply on Instagram.

1264
01:19:01,343 --> 01:19:05,003
Instagram guys ladies and everything

1265
01:19:05,003 --> 01:19:07,763
in between for listening thank you guys so much for always listening to

1266
01:19:07,763 --> 01:19:10,443
our show we really appreciate it we had some we had

1267
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so much fun this year we cannot wait for next

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year and before we wrap up the last thing I gotta tell you is we got some things

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coming up Uncle Dad will be at Galaxy Con that's right Galaxy Con San Jose he'll

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be there from August 16th through 18th hanging out doing press if you happen

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to see him definitely say what's up so you can get a sticker pack.

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On top of that, we're also going to be at Burning Man. Me and Mike will be,

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as you guys know, me and Mike is a hardcore Burner.

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And we have been waiting for the opportunity for me to join.

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I'm officially able to join and I will be joining him this year.

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So we will definitely talk about that when we return.

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So there may be a lack of content, but that's okay because we got some other

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great things in the works that you'll be sure to check out.

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Also, be sure to check out another show that I host right here on the stream.

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That is the Game Papas hosted by myself and Retro Gaming Nomad,

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where we talk about just all things gaming, give you a little bit of history.

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Right now, we're doing the Game Informer Trilogy. if you

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haven't heard Game Informer is no more that magazine was a big part of my life

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and it's no more but we're celebrating in some ways by talking about their top

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100 200 and 300 gaming lists so definitely be a part of that as well so everybody

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thank you from the bottom of my heart thank you guys so much I really can't

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wait to give you for you to just enjoy this episode hear you guys'

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feedback and hopefully we'll have more San Diego Comic Con coverage to give

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you if we don't as always next year and of course remember,

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to follow us on Instagram at Uncle Dad Talks and at Mike Hampton Art.

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And last but not least, we're not uncles, we're not dads, we're just someone

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you can talk to. We'll see you all next week.