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Hello, everybody. Welcome to a very special episode of Uncle Dad Talks.
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As always, I'm Uncle Dad, and with me is the ever so handsome,
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the erasing Cajun himself, Mike Hampton. Mike, say hello.
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Hello. Hello. Thank you for the Cajun shout out. It's fitting for today's show.
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Oh, absolutely. That's why I had to do it.
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Words cannot describe how excited I am.
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Mike, we always talk about our bucket list guests we want on this show. Well, this is one for me.
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This is probably one of my top five guests I've always wanted to get.
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And the fact that I finally have him shows that, as you always say,
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Mike, if you manifest it enough, it'll happen, right?
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Yeah. Yeah. Well, look, here we are. It's hot. We had a whole therapy session
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with you before we even got him on this, on this screen with us.
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So we got it. He's not lying about that.
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We can be very real here. Before I introduce him, I just want to tell a quick
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story about this man and what his stuff means to me. So when I was,
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I can't remember how old I was, but I was definitely a teenager.
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And I remember going to Blockbuster and renting the original Hatchet movie.
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And when I rented that movie, I was, what is this? This is so,
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you know, it looks, I'm not gonna lie, it looked a little generic at the time.
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But I was like, that's fine. I love stuff like that. Let me watch it.
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So I got it. I rented it. I put it in my dad's, I don't know if you guys remember
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those TVs that had the combo of the VHS and DVD player. So I put it in there.
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And I watched it. And at the end of the film, I am not kidding,
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my jaw just dropped because I had never seen somebody of that time,
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the modern era of that time, make such a great modern take on old school horror. I've never seen that.
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And then what really made me fall in love with this movie is immediately afterwards,
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I watched the making of documentary about it without the DVD.
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Because back in the day, DVDs had special features.
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And i watched the making of and when
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i truly just fell in love with this this man's
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his disability to to create what
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he wanted to create because to me first and foremost he was a fan and i've always
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been a fan of horror that's how i connected with my mother a lot was through
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horror movies funny enough and you know being able to see another person achieve
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their dream with their heroes of their own made me feel that one day i could
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do that and i now i make a podcast with a hero of mine.
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So with that being said, I cannot tell you how much this man means to me and
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how excited I am to have him on.
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Everybody, give it up for the modern horror legend himself, Adam Green.
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I don't know how or what I'm supposed to say now, like, with up to any of that.
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So thank you guys for having me. And that was a hell of an intro.
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I introduced the guy.
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Mike knows I like to live honestly on my sleeve as much as I can.
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And I'm really working on being even just more just truly to genuine who I am. And I'm the same way.
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And sometimes it gets me in trouble. Yeah.
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Honest it's just the best way to live just say what you think absolutely
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man and i'm learning that more and more the older i get
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you know i'm 35 now and i think just having
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you know to me even though i don't i didn't know you right like you
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were always like a a hero to mine to me
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because every movie you came out with i felt like
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you were telling something that you wanted to be wanting to tell and
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i don't think enough filmmakers do that especially in today's world how many
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ghostbuster movies do we need i love the ghostbusters don't get me wrong on but do
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we need more and more of those i don't know yes but you
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know i i just to talk about you and your uh hatchet
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is a i guess uh as everyone likes to say old school american horror movie it's
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a slasher movie it's now a franchise i guess because there's four of them but
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they're like Like imagine if you could go back to the 80s and see one of those movies,
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but have it be entertaining.
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Other than just the few seconds of Michael Myers or Jason or Freddie killing somebody.
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I tried really hard to emulate my heroes, two of which were John Landis and
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Tom Holland, because American Werewolf in London is a perfect film, in my opinion.
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Fright Night was a movie that took, I mean, both of them,
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they took these tired sub-genres of werewolves and vampires,
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and then it's like well what if we did it where
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it wasn't just that what if we actually got
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really good actors had like you know
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it's it's all objective of course but what i try to do is make the films as
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entertaining as possible i tend to do that through comedy which is what both
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of those guys did as well and then keep the comedy out of the horror so when
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When Victor Crowley's there, it's not funny.
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And he's going to do awful things to you.
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But that combination of both is really hard to find financing for because comedic
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horror movies, I mean, I don't know. People call it horror comedy.
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To me, they're just horror movies. They're also entertaining.
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But it's really hard to market. You'll notice the original trailer for Hatchet.
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There's not an ounce of humor anywhere in that because the fear is well if we show funny stuff,
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then it dilutes it and people don't understand is it a spoof like well i don't
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get it and so it was really hard to get made in fact every studio passed on
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it every single place and that's one of my own problems in life is like all
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you have to do is tell me no,
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especially several times and then I have to fucking do it just to show you you're
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wrong so I wish I wasn't like that because I don't know I'd probably just be
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a wealthier person if I was just like fuck it I'll do it whatever it is I'll
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just go do it but like I want to do my stuff and so I don't know I don't know
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I don't know I don't know I don't know I don't know I don't
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I don't only do my stuff. My second film, Spiral, I didn't write that.
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I co-directed that with Joel David Moore.
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One of the best experiences I ever had. So I don't know. I just sort of go with what feels right.
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And yeah, I guess that's it. But it's been incredible the way this movie connected
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with so many people around the world.
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I had three in mind when I made the first one. And the only people who I told
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what was going to happen in parts two and three were Cain and John Buechler
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because he designed the makeup for the first hatchet.
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And I was explaining to him, we're not going to reveal this till the second
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one, but Victor Crowley's mother is black and his father is white.
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And so I want the hair to look a certain way. I want this, I want that.
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And he was like, no, I got it, I got it. it and so if
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we had never gotten to make two and three it would have
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been disappointing but like whenever
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like i was afraid to tell too many other people i
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was working with no but i have a sequel in mind because you just sound like
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an asshole like this one isn't even done yet what if it sucks or what if we
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don't even finish it what if it never comes out what if no like so many things
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can go wrong and the amazing thing with hatchet is that these films never had marketing.
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There was never this big marketing push behind them. Even though they've all
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had some sort of theatrical release.
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I think the first one was on 100 screens or something like that.
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But nobody knew it was there. So it didn't matter. But.
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Anyway, it's just, this was like really like a fan driven word of mouth thing.
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And now to be God next year will be 20 years since we shot the first one.
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And the fact that there's three action figures now, Halloween masks,
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comic books, going to conventions and seeing people cosplaying as Victor Crowley.
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The fact that like with the last one, I, the theatrical release for it was a tour.
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So i did like 50 50 nights
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or 50 cities or something like that and most of them
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were sold out some of them sold out so fast
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we had to add a second show like and that's again
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just like word of mouth you don't see tv commercials or
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billboards or any of the things that the studio movies get
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so i owe all of this
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to the fans yeah not that that's
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my favorite of all of my films that's my
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favorite it i mean holliston will always be my
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favorite thing because that was the best time ever frozen
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was really hard but really proud of
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that movie and i think that's technically my most successful one
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too so as much as hatchet has become a franchise i think frozen is probably
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the most i think because it's just more mainstream but every few years it like
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makes its way into like the top 10 on some streaming site and it's just amazing
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to see it keep going you shouldn't go on ski lifts. They're fucking bullshit.
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Nobody should ski. Why are people strapping their legs to wind boards and sliding
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down a mountain? What do you think is going to happen?
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Just stay home. Stay home and watch TV. It's so much better.
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I'll stay home. I'll stay home.
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You know, Adam, you mentioned Kane Hodder, who played Jason in some of the Friday
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the 13th, which was my favorite horror movies growing up.
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Was that one of your favorites that obviously you reached out to Cain to have him be on your movie.
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Was that something that you watched over and over and over and got inspired
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about how he just does what he does?
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I really, my favorite of all the slashers is Michael Myers. It's always going
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to be Michael Myers. I know Cain doesn't like when I say that.
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I love all of them. Just like the mythologies, the simple like campfire tales,
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because I think that's what makes a good slasher.
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I think it needs to be a backstory that even if you're not going to do every
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detail of it, you can at least just get the basics and people get it.
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Like, all right, I understand this.
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They need to look cool. and they also need a
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twinge twinge is that the right word tinge that's
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probably the better word of sympathy there has to
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be some way that like this wasn't their fault
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i i think or like there was just something wrong so
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i think they missed out of them
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so i'm going on a tangent here such a good opportunity with
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that nightmare on elm street remake i mean in in several ways but
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well you know what though i i it looks
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like we might be recording still so i'll just say i thought the same thing from
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that Freddy from that remake they were gonna make him
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not do it it looked like that anyways yeah
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because in the trailer they showed the Molotov cocktails coming into the boiler
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room and he was yelling I didn't do it and I was like that's what I had pitched
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I'm like that's such a cool way to go but yeah oh right I had to get back around the Kane Hodder sorry.
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So yeah i was obviously incredibly familiar with
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kane's work i always sort of assumed we would just find somebody new an actor
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who could do you know makeup performance and hopefully stunts so that we wouldn't
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have to double victor crowley and then it was john buechler who said what about out Kane Hodder.
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And I was just like, get the fuck out. I'm like, what, you really?
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And he's like, I'm going to the set of Devil's Rejects today.
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Kane's doing stunts on that. And, you know, I could just give him the script. And I'm like, sure.
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And then like a week later, I'm meeting with Kane.
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And I think, I think a lot in life, I don't like to really say luck because
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I don't think, I know some people have luck. It's never really been my thing.
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Unfortunately, I would love to have some. But I think that the timing just worked
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out really well, because at the time that I sat down with him.
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He had recently lost the role of Jason with Freddy vs.
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Jason, which to this day, nobody can give a straight answer on what happened there.
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And then he had just turned 50. He had just lost his mother.
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And to me, those were all reasons to not do this.
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Because what if this sucked? Like, what if it wasn't good?
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And now, like, that was his next move. but
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something about that script and then our
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meeting together he drank the
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kool-aid with the rest of us and he believed in it and he
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just he worked so hard like that guy is just amazing and he saw this as an opportunity
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excuse me to to create a character from the ground up because with jason six
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other dudes had played that part before him and so now this was like something
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he could kind of take ownership of.
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And in the beginning, some of the things I wanted, I know he had to have blind faith in me on.
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I wanted Victor Crowley to be twitchy and run and be unpredictable.
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And as angry and violent as he is, he's also kind of scared.
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And he was used to the Jason thing, the solely stalking and the breathing.
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And we got rid of all of that stuff.
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One thing I love that he's done with the character as more films have been made
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is in his mind, he's like, in the beginning, I'm killing because I'm trying
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to protect myself and I'm scared.
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He's like, but by the third one, I kind of like it. I kind of enjoy it.
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And when you know that, when you go back and watch all of them,
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you see him get kind of comfortable with maiming people and almost wanting to
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see what he could do next.
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So it's cool. But yeah, he's the best.
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And honestly, I don't know if without him getting involved, without Tony Todd,
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and Tony Todd, I was like, listen, you're going to be the lead in the sequel. This isn't a cameo.
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And he was like, sequel.
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Everyone thinks they're going to have a sequel, right? But I think it was just...
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I'm just dumb. I don't know. It was just naivety, I guess.
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I'm like, no, of course we're going to get to make another one.
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It's manifestation, my friend. You do have to manifest things to a certain point.
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Obviously, you can't just live your life thinking good things. You got to go work for it.
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What like i understand it sucks to be
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let down we all get let down by many things in life but
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if you're gonna do something do it and believe in it and love it
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and i think i really do believe there's
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people out there who will recognize that when they see it and that's what makes
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us connect to things there's certain movies i love i don't even know why but
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there's just something about it and so yeah just whatever it is even it's not
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filmmaking but just go for it and just you're You're never going to regret that you tried your best,
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but you are going to regret if you bitched out.
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Sorry for the tangents, but all I ever wanted to do was be in the play little shop of horrors.
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their, their stage productions were huge.
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i could sing and i'm like i'm gonna do this
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and i got the sides and i knew the song for the dentist like that's the role
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i always wanted and when i got there i could hear the guys auditioning for the
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voice of audrey too and i got so freaked out because they were so fucking good
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these were like soul singers and stuff. So I left.
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he's like, what'd you think? I'm like, it was great.
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I'm like, what was up with the dentist? He's like, only three people auditioned.
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is I wouldn't have gotten it. I would have survived.
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I've, I've not gotten many things in life and I'm still here.
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So yeah. So my point is whatever it is, just do it and do it the best you possibly can.
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And it's hard with independent filmmaking because you know what the best is
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that you could do, but you can't do that because you don't have that kind of time or resources.
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Resources so everything is a compromise so the fact that these movies are even watchable,
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is is a feat on its own and it's all
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due to the people around me because i work with the greatest people
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so it's not me it's them it's always a support group it's not just one person
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right yeah well especially filmmaking as the creator of it or as the director
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writer i'm the one who gets to be the face of it but it's everyone around like
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i don't make the effects i'm not the the one who made that stuff look super cool.
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That was Rob Pettigraft and his whole team. Will Barrett's the one who shoots it.
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That's why it looks so good. Or Jan Michael Asada did the fourth one.
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Sarah Albert, who produces everything.
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I mean, so many people, it just goes on and on. Without them, I'm nothing.
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I love that, man.
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And that goes just in life in general, right? Just your team,
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your support group, that's how you get through life.
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this before it's too late.
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So one of my other iconic things in my life that I idolize is tell them Steve Dave.
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or as I know, I'm from Tennessee day was going to be in your,
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the fourth Victor Crowley movie.
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My mind was literally blown because these are two people, you know,
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you yourself and then somebody else who another person who I just absolutely.
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Idolize is just going to be doing a film together.
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I have to, I don't really know the stories. How did you guys get together and have a month?
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That's kind of like another manifestation story. When I found Impractical Jokers,
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it was by accident, which I think for a lot of people,
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you're just flipping through the TV and then you're like, what could possibly
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be so funny that these guys are laughing like this?
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I had like a migraine. I think I was sick. I was on the couch, so I couldn't even look.
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And I'm just blindly flipping through the TV. and then I just hear these guys like cackling.
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I'm like, how, what could possibly be so funny?
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And within seconds, I'm like, these are like the people I went to high school
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with. Like these guys, these are my friends.
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And so I was asked by, I'm trying to remember the name of the site,
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but they were doing this series where they had artists write about other things that they're enjoying.
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And it was, everyone was doing films and that's why they asked me and I'm like, can I do a reality show?
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Can I do Impractical Jokers? And they were like, are you serious? The Talk House.
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That's what it was called. You could probably still find the article,
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but I just wrote about why the show was so great, how much I love it.
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And then like almost immediately on Twitter, Murr's now following me and Q's following me.
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like dude i saw frozen in the theater like four times q's the
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biggest hatchet fan like we're so blown away that you
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like the show and so then literally it
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was like that and now i've been really close with especially
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q for seven years eight years or something like that and they've had me do like
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a movie night on each of their cruises that they do and the best thing to know
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about those guys and brian johnson as well like from tom c dave they're exactly
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how they present themselves in my life.
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There's no persona or they're just that great. The friendship is real.
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They're the most generous, kindest, wonderful people you could ever meet.
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And so I like to hope to believe that those kinds of people can find each other if they're open to it.
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But I also think most people are great. We
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live in a time right now where everyone thinks we're so
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divided everyone hates each other i just did like eight convention
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appearances over the last few months where i was all
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over the country everybody's awesome like so
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just make some effort smile a little bit and don't be an asshole and you'll
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be so much happier i i i love all that what you're saying and what you're saying
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to you about bq like that's gonna be my my next bucket list item one day is
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to get him on the show i know that's a tough one though but i'm gonna But that's
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what's going to happen. I feel it in my heart.
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Mike, are you still with us? I'm still here, yes. I'm listening to it all.
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I just have one quick thing. You're from the Northeast, Massachusetts, Boston.
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What made you pick the swamps in New Orleans? That's where I'm from originally.
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Is it just the lore of that, the history of that place?
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Okay. This is another great story. Okay. So I came up with Victor Crowley when
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I was eight years old at summer camp.
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So they tried to scare us from going near there.
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And they're like, if you go near this cabin, hatchet face, we'll get you.
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And I was already into this shit. So I was like, who's hatchet face and how's
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he going to get me? And what's he going to do?
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And they didn't have anything else to their story.
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Nothing just, well, I don't know. He'll get you. I'm like, this sucks.
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And so when we were going to sleep, the other kids in my bunk,
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Yeah, it was definitely eight. And they're like, do you think hatchet face will get us?
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And I made up the story, which is largely still the
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same story that's in hatchet he was the deformed boy the
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dad was trying to save him and chop it down the door with a hatchet got him
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in the face and then the next morning the counselors had to call my parents
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they were gonna send me home from camp it was awful because everyone thought
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i was the weird kid from that point on but then cut to like 20 years later and two of my childhood the.
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Group that I grew up with are still my closest friends to this day.
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And Ben was marrying my other friend, Mary Beth.
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And Ben was into basketball and the final four, I guess, college games were
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happening there in New Orleans that year.
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me to watch a basketball game.
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I have no interest in a sport where the score is that high, like change the fucking sport.
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Like you should, if you're getting over a hundred points it something's
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wrong so that's a different tangent for
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a different guy while we were in
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new orleans i didn't want to go to the games so
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well everyone else was at the games i was just wandering around
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and i saw in one of the voodoo shops it was
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actually reverend zombies voodoo shop there was a
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sign for like haunted swamp tours and i was like
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maybe we could do it after the game maybe we could do this
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like at night and like we don't we don't do
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them at night I'm like there was an idea and
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then we end up going to see a jazz band the drummer
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for this band was a burn survivor and he
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didn't have hands he had his drumsticks duct
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taped to his wrists and this dude was fucking
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amazing like he could play so well but I'm looking at him and then I'm in New
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Orleans the Haunted Swamp Tour Ben and Mary Beth and I was just like I gotta
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go write and it was pretty quick
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The first version of it was called Victor Crowley and I wrote most of it.
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I was the DJ at the, the rainbow bar and grill on sunset, like the heavy metal hangout here in LA.
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And I wrote a lot of it in that DJ booth. And then, and.
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The rest was, I guess, history. But that's how it ended up in New Orleans.
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That's great. I got to look that guy up, the drummer with the tape.
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Yeah, I don't remember the name of the band.
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I don't even know if I ever knew the name of the band because we were just in
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the bar to go have drinks and the band was playing.
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And I was like, this drummer is incredible. And then I went and looked and I
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was just like, holy shit, is this guy good?
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So, yeah. Mike, we got to get him on the show, yeah?
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That could be another movie. movie the guy with uh drums drummer drumsticks
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taped to his hands and just drums people to death.
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In the french quarter maybe that's funny
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all right i know you gotta go so we'll let you go but adam absolutely
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just you made a you made my 17 year
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old self incredibly happy today and just thank you so much
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for being a part of the show and just being a part of
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what you do and allowing us to just be a little piece of your
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world one day so thank you so much that was absolutely I can't
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thank you enough Thank you and thank you both for your
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kind words And for watching what I do There's
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more coming eventually It's been a weird four years with the
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pandemic And the strikes and the bullshit But it
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seems like it's starting again So we'll see Anybody who's
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hearing this or seeing this The Hatchet Steelbook Collection Is available now
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at Dark Sky's website I think it's darkskyfilms.com And it's all four Unrated
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versions of the movie and a new fifth disc that's got two new hours of bonus
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features that I personally made. I really think you'll dig it.
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Awesome. Yes, please go out and get that. We'll link it in the bio of the episode as well.
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Thank you so much. And actually, before you go, can you tell our audience where
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they connect with you online?
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Yeah. My official website is aeriscope.com. A-R-I-E-S-C-O-P-E.com.
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I think there's like a hundred short films, every episode of Scary Sleepover,
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Horrified, all those shows that I do.
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And then I am on social media still. I don't know why or for how much longer.
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Instagram is probably better because Twitter, I don't really look at.
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It's just, I don't need my day ruined.
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With instagram my algorithm is so
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like tight like so tuned in that all
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i see are like red pandas kittens puppies like
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i don't have to see anybody's political shit i
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don't have to hear your opinions on i don't i'll just
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tell you right now if you want to tell me your opinion something i don't care what it is
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so tell somebody else but it's at adam underscore
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effin underscore green so you can find me on Instagram and then my weekly podcast
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is The Movie Crypt we've known it over 11 years now every single Monday we have
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one coming up really soon that's a roundtable with two of the actors from Blair
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Witch Project where we're going to get honest about where those,
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hundreds of millions of dollars went and it's going to be very very eye opening
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for people so you can look for that wherever you listen to podcasts,
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Awesome Are we going to see you at San Diego Comic Con?
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Hopefully not i haven't gone in like 10
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years okay and uh i'm sure someday
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i'll go back again like to do a panel or some
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sort of presentation on something but other than i used to love comic con i
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never missed a year i just it was i couldn't do it anymore like it's it got
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so crazy so many people and then what really did it for me is i was like you
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know sometimes you're on like
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the main floor and there's like gridlock and you're like, don't panic.
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As a woman was coming by me, she sneezed in my open mouth.
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And I haven't been that since. So maybe someday.
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But a horror convention, sure, you might see me at a horror convention. Those are cool as hell.
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I'm going to throw one out there. You should go to StocktonCon one day.
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StocktonCon. We're there all the time. That's the one you should go to next. StocktonCon. Alright.
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Thank you so so much, Adam. We really appreciate it. Take care.
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And Mike, any last words?
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Yeah. Well, that's the next movie is the woman who sneezes in your open mouth.
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While we're playing with no hands. Wow. Right.
438
00:29:18,948 --> 00:29:21,708
What was this? I just did the Trump dancing. Yeah.
439
00:29:23,508 --> 00:29:24,848
All right. Maybe it's Trump.
440
00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:44,866
Music.
