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Approximately six weeks ago, one of our concerned citizens came across human
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remains while walking a dog.
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We discovered the remains of 11 women and one unborn child.
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We never faced anything like this. They're sending in an expert.
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Chief Carter, I presume. Hope you had a good flight, Agent Patrick.
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I read your file. You were looking for the boogeyman. Instead focused on the
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regular guy just hiding in plain sight.
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We put serial killers into four categories first you got your visionary they hear voices you know,
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next we got hedonistic these are lust killers after that the power control oriented
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but i don't think our guy has any of those he's a mission oriented killer,
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he thinks he's making the world a better place.
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Music.
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Hey hon, you looking for a good time?
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What do you say? You want to do this thing? Oh you know I do.
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You telling me the serial killer can be an undercover cop? So it could be anyone.
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When I looked into his eyes, his eyes were dead. He's playing God.
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Music.
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No one can get through life without pain. My pain is deep, but it gives me purpose.
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We have a predator amongst us.
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Music.
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And welcome everybody we are here with a very special episode
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presented to you by lionsgate about the upcoming film
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boneyard i am with my favorite
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dude in the whole world give it up for mike hampton mike what's up
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the bony mike hampton in the house hey
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bony mike hampton indeed mike you
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are you're not in this episode sorta but we i
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we have to it's not an uncle dad if you're not here so we
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gotta have you here to talk about it so boneyard mike
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i got you saw it it was great right it was
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absolutely incredible yes it was
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based on it's based on a true story it's it's something that i think needs to
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be told and the fact that the murders have never been solved still to this day
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are something that will leave shivers down your spine would you agree with that
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i'm I'm shivering. I'm shivering right now.
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And it's already almost 90 degrees here in Sacramento.
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Yes. Bone chilling. Bone chilling in the boneyard. That's right. A bony man.
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But yes, Lionsgate, probably one of our most consistent partners,
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reached out to us to have us cover this film.
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I wanted to go ahead and talk about it really fast, because we didn't talk about
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it in the interview. but this movie stars Mel Gibson icon right you would agree,
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he he's an icon of sorts yeah i don't
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know if he's canceled but or is he canceled i don't know do you
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think mike i thought he was it seems like he found his
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way back in doing movies like bruce
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willis did oh you know i'm saying like the the those uh those great
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movies from lionsgate you know what i mean yeah yeah we love we love him yes
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we love him he's absolutely and also stars brian van holt spice william crosby
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and of course he cannot mention this movie without this guy he's He's the lead
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in the movie 50 cents or Curtis Jackson. He plays chief Carter.
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And this movie is directed and written by a C-Fact bar, Hank bird and Vincent E. McDaniel.
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And in this episode, Mike, we actually sit down with the director,
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a C-Fact bar and the writer and star Vincent E. McDaniel.
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So this episode is full of some hunky men. Let me tell you.
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Yeah. Yes. Lots of hunky men, not the bony men, the hunky men.
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I think exactly. No, no, no, no bony man in this boneyard.
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Yes. So this movie will be released very, very soon. This movie comes out in July and.
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And to add to the excitement of this film, we had a very special guest host
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and that was Rick of Sigma duo.
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Cassie filled in for you because you were out there handling your business.
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And Mike, I'm sure you agree with this. We thank him for stepping in and just being a part of it.
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Always always thanks thanks to rick
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for coming off the bench and and subbing in
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for me when i'm you know in the locker room doing something
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i don't know that was a weird analogy but thank you yes of course
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rick i bombed mike was
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actually busy in the boneyard yeah that's exactly
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right but yeah please go check this movie out if you haven't heard in the very
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beginning of this we actually have the the audio of the trailer playing it is
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really based on a true story I really can't tell you enough it actually is quite
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a unique film and 50 Cent Mike just so you know is just and I know you know
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this because you've seen it he's absolutely impeccable with this movie,
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Yeah, it's always good to see 50, like, expand his acting chops,
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you know, and he seems like he's getting better and better at it.
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And, you know, I've been a fan of 50 for a long time.
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So it's cool to see him in there in the mix with some, you know,
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with some of the some of the big hitters. That's right.
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Mel Gibson, man, you can't, you can't beat that guy, right? I mean,
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that's Braveheart, right? That is, that was Braveheart. He was Braveheart.
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Is that Braveheart, right? I was like, was that Bruce Willis?
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Imagine if bruce willis wasn't braveheart though i imagine every movie but with
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bruce willis in it just so you know including boneyard.
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Bruce willis presents boneyard okay everybody without further ado here is our
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interview with asif akbar and vincent e mcdaniel the writer and director and
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star of Boneyard from Lionsgate. We'll see you all next time.
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Hey, this is David Brown from Rising Appalachia and Castanea.
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Just wanted to say you are listening to Uncle Dad Talks.
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All right. Gentlemen, how are you guys doing on this lovely,
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lovely day? First and foremost.
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Great. Very well. Thanks for having us. Thanks for being here.
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Because in all honesty, being in your guys' presence, I can already feel the
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magic. I can feel the energy flowing, and I love it. I'm so excited.
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So first and foremost, my name is Uncle Dan, and with me this time is not my normal co-host.
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Normally, I have a co-host named Mike, but today we'll have the lovely Rick
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as well. Rick, go ahead and kick off the show with your studious questions.
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Hi, Rick. Awesome. How's it going? Well, pleasure to be seeing you guys and
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talking to you guys. Just seeing the film, fantastic.
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Absolutely loved it. I wanted to kick off because I found this story to be very interesting.
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And being that it's based or actually inspired by true events being the west
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mess of murders and tailoring it to be your own story i was really curious on
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what was the process of putting a story like this together and then on a second
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half of was there any pressure to keep certain things close to the actual events.
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It was definitely a journey, you know, and originally the script was developed.
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The first draft was written by Vince and our co-writer, Hank Bird, a while back.
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And I was brought onto it about eight years ago when I met Vince through some
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mutual friends in New Mexico.
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And, you know, we collaborated on a lot of films over the years.
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And this was one of the top on the list of films we wanted to make together.
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And when he first told me the story, that's when I came to learn about the West Mesa murders case.
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And I was horrified and blown away about how crazy it was and that it's real.
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And then we actually developed the script more to be inspired from other crime
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stories as well, along with the West Mesa murders case was the central case in the story.
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But we've taken pieces from different cases to mold us together.
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And obviously, we had to take some creative liberties to make our own story.
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But the goal was to bring awareness and shed light to these cases.
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So, you know, hopefully someone could be saved or a case could be,
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you know, closed because there's so many open cases, like cold cases like this,
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as you see from the stats that are just unbelievable that,
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you know, they're not investigated more.
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You know, I'm curious for Vince, you know, since you wrote on this as well,
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and you star in the film, one of the things I've learned talking to so many
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actors is sometimes it's hard to convey the scene if it doesn't feel truthful.
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When you write, do you feel yourself writing to be truthful or do you want it
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to be how easy it is for you to convey that scene in the actual production?
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I'm a truth teller I try to stick to telling the truth and then rely on the
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acting ability to translate it in real time so.
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Our whole goal was to tell the truth the whole time I love that I find that when movies write,
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truthfully you can get the better product out of it without trying to make it
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so like a fantasy or whatever not that fantasy is wrong Even in a fantasy,
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there's rules that you need to have in writing, right?
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So I'm curious, when both of you guys were working on this script,
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did you guys find yourself ever
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getting the most peculiar case of writer's block when writing the story?
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Somewhat. I mean, you know, we had to stick with the realism with this story at the style we took.
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And, you know, with so many different characters and things happening in this
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and side stories and whatnot and subplots, we didn't have too much time.
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To obviously, you know, tell it all in 96 minutes.
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But, you know, we had to restructure it. It was a little bit non-traditional, you know, the way we...
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Normally tell serial killer thrillers you
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know it's more pure entertainment this one you know we obviously
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had to keep it entertaining you know from a cinematic perspective but
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with the cinematic style we also kind of implemented a little bit of a documentary
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style where you know there's narration with mel gibson that's teaching you about
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these cases and the serial killer stats and that are just so mind blowing to
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hear that we wanted to focus on the education,
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you know, that the audience would receive from this more.
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I love that. Rick, I know you brought us to think about Mel Gibson.
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And I'm curious, you want to bring that up?
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Oh, yeah. So it was a pleasure seeing Mel Gibson. He's one of my favorite all time actors.
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Lethal Weapon. He's fantastic. fantastic and being seeing that
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he's also a director what was like
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how did the i'm gonna say is how was it
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working with him like the was there collaboration in terms
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of like also direction every now and then like to putting his input
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and he was i mean he was very respectful and obviously you know i'd be stupid
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not to collaborate with them with his ideas as well but i mean he was also very
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respectful i mean you know and to see him work like that was very inspiring
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to know, you know, where he comes from and what he's done.
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And he's definitely in my eyes, one of the best directors and actors of our
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time, and probably in the history of film.
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But, you know, when he was working with us, it was just like him,
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you know, working on any other film, he took it very seriously,
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he contributed his ideas where he felt like, you know, he needed to share them.
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And we collaborated on debates, like it wasn't ever like, you know,
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oh, I want on it this way, so this is what we're going to do,
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or this is what I think we need to do.
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It's more like, what do you think about this? Or would this work?
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Or would that work? Or how about we try this?
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And it was a very nice collaborative teamwork between all of us.
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And there were times when, yeah, Mel would sit down with a piece of paper and
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pen and write out additional lines or change it up to his own.
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And the way I work with actors is I like to give them the freedom to collaborate
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And be artists and not just robots, you know, and a lot of directors will tell
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actors to say something a certain way, or they have to stick to the script, they have to do this.
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For me, it's what works, you know, for the film.
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And in this case, I mean, Mel was very supportive, and he barely ever even went to his trailer.
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He was right there on set with us by my side and doing his part as an actor.
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And then also, you know, being a great partner and collaborator and just making
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the best film we could possibly with what we had to work with.
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Well, Vince, I'm curious, you know, you being an actor as well,
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was there ever like an intimidation factor being next to Mel Gibson at all?
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No, I was ready. I was ready to, to, uh, mortalize myself with him on the scene,
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but the scene we had to cut the scene,
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but you know, the time I spent with Mel, I talked to him, you know,
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he's very professional and everything,
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but I'm, yeah, I was ready. I was ready. I was ready for that.
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I love that. And I think, you know, this movie has so much talent in it as well,
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you know, and, you know, a lot of people to me don't give 50 Cent or Curtis Jackson enough credit.
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He is truly one of the best actors, I think, out there in film.
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He's all in every time I see him. So I'm curious, did he have any collaboration on this as well?
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And did you guys like, was it a challenge to direct him at all?
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Or did he kind of go his own way? way no well
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the thing is 50 was very respectful and and he
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wanted that guidance and you know you know you
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know there was collaboration there obviously but
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it was different for all of us and him to play this
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kind of a character you know it's a whole new 50 cent that
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you're going to experience and you know it
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took him a couple days i think to even you know
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realize you know that he's playing the
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chief of police and like he was also blown like even i
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remember when we were in the makeup trailer and you know
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he's getting his makeup done then he goes in wardrobe puts on the the
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uniform and you know in the film he's mainly in
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the uniform almost the whole time and and it
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gives him that you know authority and and
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it's a whole different vision with 50 cent where
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i think he was also kind of taken
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back by how he was able to handle that
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character to the point i can give you one little short story is he
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got so much into the character in our day four or
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five into it when we were shooting the press conference scene
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you know normally you'd see the real life police chiefs
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you know reading off notes or they're at a podium and they
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can look down and read but 50 memorized that entire speech at the press conference
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delivered it every take and he was very committed to making it organic and he
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did and so he was very committed to making it right because Because he knew
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that it was also a huge thing.
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The audience seeing him as this authority figure.
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The chief of police. And he wanted to play that right.
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Vince, I had a curious question for you. So being that you co-wrote and they're
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also in the movie, is there any time where when you're writing a movie and you
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know you're going to be in it that you kind of want to put some cool scenes for yourself?
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Because I'm telling you, sometimes you were intense in some of those scenes
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when you're coming through them doors and raiding someone. I was like, okay.
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So is there any like, you know, yeah, I'm going to, you know,
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make myself look pretty, pretty awesome in this, in this scene.
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You know on this one
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no i didn't but you just gave
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me some ideas for my future stuff you know you
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know i just tried to make it happen but it was fun that's all i could say but
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yeah i this time i wrote certain things for me but as we were going through
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the script everybody else had their pin on it too so you know i just tried to
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translate the best i could i love that we do you got to wrap up soon here.
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So I want to ask both of you, what is the one thing you want the audience to
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take from the film after they watch it?
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Same thing. Oh, okay. I mean, you have to be aware of this global issue with,
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you know, serial killers, murders,
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kidnappers, traffickers, you know, and both of us being girl dads,
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we want to be able to protect our, not only our children, but you know,
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we want others to be able to protect their children and also victims that need
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closure could maybe seek, you know, more answers.
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You know, if someone's being abused or in a situation they need help,
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they can cry out for help.
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There's definitely organizations out there that will, and we're working with a few.
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And Vince, you want to mention? Yeah, we're working with YDI,
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Youth Development Corporation in Albuquerque.
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It's a place for youth to go for education, for housing, and also they help families.
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Amistad is a place for runaways. They take you in immediately.
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It's no waiting for the program, stuff like that.
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So these are very important programs that we need to raise awareness for because
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a lot of people aren't aware of these programs.
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Programs a lot of people think that you're just just stuck on the street until
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they have divine intervention no we have programs that help you off of these
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things yeah there's no shame in asking for help no no i that i that sentiment
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means a lot to me because i feel like.
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We all struggle, whether in some sort of way, and especially even as men,
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right? Men have a hard time reaching out specifically.
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And I think knowing that there's these programs out there for young men out
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there and young women as well, that just to get out there and get the help that we need to fix our lives.
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Maybe not fix our lives, but just do what we can to progress in life, right?
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So thank you guys for doing that. I'll also tag those organizations in this as well.
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So if they have tips on any crimes or even related to this case,
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they can always report it to the FBI or the Albuquerque Police Department or
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their local police departments and, you know, help with the case,
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solving the case. You know, fight to get by.
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Absolutely. Rick, do you have any last questions before we go?
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I just want to say I appreciated the film. I appreciated the story you guys
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told and everything that it's intended for.
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Like i said i honestly back in
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2009 didn't even know this was going on until i was made
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aware of this film and then i started researching and everything and i'm like
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wow like this was pretty intense like what's happening here so i definitely
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appreciate the awareness that you guys are bringing with this film thank you
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thank you thank you gentlemen thank you guys have a great day and i will see
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you guys next time take care all right you guys have a great day too thank you.
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