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What up, everybody? Uncle Dad here, hanging out with the one and only,
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the Magnificent Mike. What's up? Magnificent Mike in the house.
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Don't you love that? Don't you love how I just hype you up every time I see you?
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It's good to have people that hype you up that are around. So,
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yes, thank you. All right. Your turn, your turn. Hype me up. I'm with the...
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Exuberant uncle dad oh hell yeah
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we don't really need a show that's all we got uh peacocking
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and all peacock at all yes hey so we're here at the california roots art and
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music festival in monterey california uh what's your feeling right now how you
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feeling are you feeling the vibe are you vibing out are you are you wang chung
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and tell me i'm wang chung into the vibe yeah i mean it's uh this,
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This is the third year I've been here.
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You know, we have a Bart Bridge booth selling hats, but mainly this time we're
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here doing support for Callie, Callie Dunlap, while she paints a mural.
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She's one of the few muralists here at the event, so it's exciting to support her. Of course.
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We love Callie. The audience loves Callie, and we'll talk to her later on today as well.
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But she's doing an awesome mural, which we'll have pictures of
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and we'll put it in the promo flyer i'm sure we should
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uh put process photos of you know
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how it looks throughout the days because it you know she
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starts on uh friday today it's
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a three-day festival without really uh an
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end result in mind it kind of comes to be throughout the days and influenced
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by the music and the people and all the things so we'll post process like the
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work work and process pictures i love that i absolutely love I love that and
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besides the amazing art, the amazing music,
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there's a lot of something here that we don't talk about too often or we haven't
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in a while and that is the California great cannabis company or companies, I should say.
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What do you think? We're gonna do some cannabis talking today.
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There's a lot of cannabis companies now, right? There's a lot.
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But yeah, I have a.
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A very small window of time where I deal with cannabis for myself.
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And that's usually to help me go to sleep. Which, if anyone's listened to our
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past episodes, they would know.
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And if you didn't, well, now you know. But yeah, let's talk to them.
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Yeah, we're going to do some cannabis chatting. It's going to be great.
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We're also going to have some other...
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We're going to have a musician on. That's exciting. I'm not going to reveal
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who that is, even though they know who it is already.
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But we're not going to reveal who it is, on Mike at least. and we may have more
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musicians too, we'll figure that out but definitely a lot of candidates to chat
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a lot of artists to chat because there's a bunch of great artists here you know
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them more than I do, a lot of great artists,
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there's several great local to the Monterey area artists here and California
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roots or also Cali roots as most people say now,
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used to be more art influenced and there's still just in our eyesight here Here
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there's three or four muralists right here on this strip.
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But I guess they used to do it on the stage while the musicians were playing.
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And so, you know, now they're on the side, which is kind of cool because now
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they can interact with, you know, with the attendees and stuff.
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Yeah, it makes it more interactive, right? That's how they build them is interactive artists.
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So I think it's really cool that you can come see the artists,
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hear an airplane go by, and then also be able to chat with the artists.
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Like, I mean, what more could you want? And you could smoke some weed.
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You can smoke some weed and you can listen to the plane. Hey,
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that's a night in heaven if you ask me.
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But before we wrap up this quick little intro here, I wanted to quickly ask you something.
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What is your favorite Aristotle quote?
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The last one. It's always the last one. All right, everybody,
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we'll be right back after this break.
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Hi there, this is Dave Mandel. I'd like to think you know me as a writer for
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Seinfeld and curb your enthusiasm or Veep or even Eurotrip or,
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I don't know, The Dictator or Clerks.
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But you probably know me from Cat in the Hat. Oh, well.
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Anyway, you're listening to Uncle Dad Talks.
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All right, everybody. We are back. Uncle Dad here with, of course,
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my man, Mike. Mike, say hello. Hello, hello.
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Mike, we have a very handsome guest right across from you. Two handsome people.
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I'm very lucky to be a part of the sandwich right now. know.
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So let's give it up for the man, the myth, the legend, Wes Finley of Revolution.
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How are you? I'm very good, my friend. Thank you. I cannot tell you how excited
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I am to have you on, Mike. You are more eager than I could ever imagine.
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So I'm going to hand the mic to you and you're going to take the keys and drive, my friend.
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Thankfully, it's a short drive. Yeah, Wes, thank you for talking to us.
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So Cali Roots, you guys always headline. Is there a feeling when you guys come
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to this event specifically that always keeps you guys coming back?
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Because I've seen you guys perform, and I've been in the crowd.
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And everyone loves you guys here.
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So what is it about this event that you guys always just lock it in and rock it?
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It yeah there's a couple things um the first would be
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our our relationship with the promoters uh dan and amy
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we've been doing shows with them before cali roots was conceived
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um so like we did shows in
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guam together and hawaii and stuff so um we just
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go way back with them and always work well together um so
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when they want to put on this festival we are obviously like obliged
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to do that and um yeah second reason for me
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would be that monterey is my hometown i actually live like two
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miles from where we're standing right now so this is like
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a big you know a big hometown show for me where i can have my family and
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friends be part of the festival situation not have to leave their
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houses too far and um get to see me in action
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so yeah so you so you still live here in in monterey area yeah i could bike
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over here if i wanted to so let me ask you this i monterey is beautiful and
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and when it's sunny it's like heaven here does does the 80 of the year where it's cloudy.
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And gray bother you at all or you you take it
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all yeah when you when you grow up you know in the in the fog
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and cold like that's just what you become accustomed to
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and you actually miss it like so like when the band you know started in
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santa barbara and when i lived there for 15 years and i
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actually started missing like being cold or missing fog
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or season so that was one of the things that drove me back to to moving back
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to monterey is like having experiencing those deeper seasons a little bit more
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and yeah I welcome it now like jacket weather whatever you know like I'll walk
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out in a shirt and people be wearing like tourists will be wearing like three
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layers and I'll be like what you know so it's something you get used to too so yeah.
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All right so you're you're the drummer you're the heartbeat of revolution what other drummers are
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there other drummers that you look up to that you're influenced by
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or that got you into even doing drumming yeah
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so when i you know coming up i didn't really listen to
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a lot of reggae it was more like i got exposed to when from the
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other guys when we started the band so a lot of the drummers i look
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up to are like heavy rock drummers and that's what i kind of listened to in
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my free time um in indie rock so and and like the the drummers i look up to
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are like in obscure bands too that like aren't as popular as us which is kind
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of funny so it's like these guys are so talented but like they only draw a few
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hundred people or play like these small dingy clubs so,
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it's always fun seeing my favorite bands in like really small places it's i
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don't my typical aisles aren't like the you know like rolling stones or like
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the doors or like whatever whoever else you know, most people might mention.
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So I, I enjoy having obscure influences.
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Have you heard of the band charred walls of the damned? I can't say I have. I might be too obscure.
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It sounds very obscure. What about system of a down? Have you heard of them?
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Yeah, we've played a couple of vessels with them.
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John, the drummer is a, is a friend of ours. He's also, he's the big in the comic book scene too.
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So, so yeah, the band is obviously a lot of, of kind of reggae influence.
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Influence so when you weren't really
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big into reggae how like how was it
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to you to to fit that because it's a very distinct style how
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was it for you to fit that into what you were already doing yeah
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i mean like most bands that start out you just are playing covers
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so you're just learning songs and then in that
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process you're learning like the traditional reggae beats of
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which there's like you know a handful of like really staple beats
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and rhythms so um
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that's that's an easy introduction in that sense but yeah just exposure over
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time and then like finding you know the artists that I specifically like reggae
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artists that I like and that type and certain songs and versions of reggae that
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I like that were different than the other guys so you know I started to find
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my own identity within reggae itself.
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It's beautiful like music it's just no matter what like if you're if you're
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if you're a musician and and you appreciate the culture you can find your way
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and you guys blend it together so well and it's always so beautiful to see to
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see the people just appreciate you guys so much,
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what's we i like to ask this a lot what's i
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always say the top three but what's one of your
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favorite venues to play in in the states in
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the states i mean the go-to answer is red rocks right it's
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just like this natural amphitheater that's people like we'll
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go just to not even see a show just to run the stairs or like you know see the
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natural history of it so i'd say that and then like the santa barbara bowl is
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it's our hometown where the band started so and that venue is beautiful in and
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of itself i call it like red rocks junior sometimes because it's also cut into the hillside and has
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a natural acoustics to it. So I would say those two.
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Right on. We got to go there. You have something to say, Uncle Dad?
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I do. I'm curious. Do you read Aristotle?
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No, sir. Okay. Well, is there any quotes that you like to live by when you perform?
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There's a scene in the movie Gattaca that sometimes I think about,
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and it's towards the end of the movie,
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but there's essentially two brothers that try to compete against each other
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they're swimming as far as they can out into the ocean and whoever gets chicken has to turn back,
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does and and at the end one brother
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knows he's going to die so he just keeps swimming and he always says i never
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saved anything for the swim back and it's just that just means like you know
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going as hard as you can and not you know just keep pushing yourself i love
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that have you seen that movie by the way i i've seen parts of it yeah matthew mcconaughey right,
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Jude Law and Ethan Hawke. I
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always get Ethan Hawke and Matthew McConaughey messed up for some reason.
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Am I weird in that? I get Jude Law more than Ethan Hawke mixed up with Matthew
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McConaughey. I'm with that one. Clearly.
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Well, Wes, thank you so much for talking to us.
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It's also cool that we get to do for Barbraids, we get to do hats for you guys.
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And so how does the story go?
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Go you you got some hats from us at a festival or.
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A market somewhere or like how did you find us yeah
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i always tell that story actually you guys were here uh doing the
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artichoke festival in the same fairgrounds where we are now and
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uh and you guys had heard a rebel or i think our friend maybe
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uh said hey that was a guy in revolution and so we came back and
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and met you guys and i was like oh we gotta start working together and
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then i think that's where it took off but it's it's always a pleasure going
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back and forth with you on the art and um trying to
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to do something different each time and i know the the fans love the hats
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so thank you yeah it's cool to be here and like just see
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them randomly out and about and like some of the older ones the
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newer ones yeah what's i i enjoy seeing it out and about in
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the world like i'll be at an airport i'll be in another state and i'll
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see when i'll be like oh that's crazy man like that's barb ridge hat do
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you know that you know like and it's just they're just wearing a hat to them but it's
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like i know like the deeper history and like you know
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how humble the beginnings are and stuff so it's cool
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to see that well humble beginnings always i
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think equates a humble continuation of
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success right and and you appreciate anytime someone
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listens to your music someone wears your hat someone listens to our
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podcast you appreciate it all because it it's
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hard to like be successful in in any of this stuff
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you know like none of us have to work silly day jobs and and just you know we
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get to do what we love right and so it's it's always appreciative and so it's
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a pleasure to work with you and we have some really cool new uh designs coming
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out with you guys yep happy to have them.
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Well, Wes, and where can the audience find you or Revolution or the whole doo-wop?
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And, you know, bands on Instagram, Facebook, all the usual socials.
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And the band's also touring everywhere. Yes. And I got one last question because
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I like to make things a little fun here.
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What's your favorite Bruce Willis movie? movie well die
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christmas movie or not so that's always a point
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of contention which is fun to talk about so i mean
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but pulp fiction though you know like that was you know
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just the movie itself is great and the fact that he has
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a role a big role in it is pretty clutch so probably that probably pulp fiction
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oh so does he know about your love for uh bruce willis i i doubt you know about
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my love for bruce willis but show show well maybe i'll show you uh i have a
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bruce willis tattoo i'll show you on on sunday,
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damn you more tattoo you had to get covered up i had an ashton kutcher uh.
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But have you seen the bruce willis roast comedy
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central was a few years ago have you seen it no i haven't seen that
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one there's a great so you know when you watch
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a roast at the end the person who's getting roasted gets to come
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ends the roast with for the record die hard
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is not a christmas movie it's not an action
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movie and then he gives the look it's a bruce willis movie so he he answered
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the question but didn't quite answer it yeah well he did you know he he does
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what he does right anyways wes thank you so much man you're awesome it's an
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honor to just chill with you and chat and talk about all the things and crew
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including Bruce Willis.
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And I can't wait to watch you guys perform and then see the hats that come out
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and see your continued success.
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Stoked to play here and to have you guys watch our set and happy for the hats
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that are about to come out too.
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And happy everything, right? Yeah. All right. Uncle Dad here hanging out with Mike.
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We just got done doing a wonderful interview and give it up to Mike,
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everybody, for killing it as he does.
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I'm usually just here to say dumb things on the side. And I appreciate that
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you noticed that I can be real.
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You are real. Some would say too real. Yeah, some would say.
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But that was great. great honestly uh west is such a nice kind
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dude and i one day we can have maybe more members
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of revolution on if that's possible well we'll see i like to put that out in
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the ether yeah put it out there that's you know that's how things come to be
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exactly and now we're going to start our journey into cannabis chatting we're
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going to talk to matt shotley who is the executive producer of a TV show, 2013,
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the very first ever marijuana-based reality show called Weed Country.
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When you say marijuana-based reality TV show, what does that mean exactly?
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I'm going to have Matt tell you. Okay. That's probably better. Yeah, exactly.
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So it's really exciting. And that show was actually on Discovery Channel for
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about two years, I believe.
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a long day of Cannabis Chats, and I'm so excited because I love weed. Yes, you do.
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We'll be right back, everybody. I guess I better let my dreads out. I love it.
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All right, Uncle Dad here hanging out with Just Mike. Just Mike,
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say hello as always. Hello, hello.
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Mike, we're talking about something pretty fun right now. We're talking about
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one of my favorite things in the world.
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Would you agree with that? It is one of your favorite things.
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It totally is, and we're talking about the beautiful world of cannabis,
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And we are with a man, the man, the myth, the legend, the icon himself.
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Give it up for Matthew or Matt Shotwell. That's right. Hi, I'm Matt from Midzotics.
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Thanks for having me. Thank you for coming on.
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Of course. No, I love participating in any media and getting our story out there
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and just connecting with people in different forms of media. So thanks for asking.
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Yeah, of course. You know, the first thing you said to me that really stood
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out was that was awesome.
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You were like, I'm camera ready and I'm mic ready. And you don't meet a lot of people like that.
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And I think that's such a great skill to have. So thank you for being 100 for
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that. Oh, yeah, for sure. I grew up on TV.
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I've been an actor since I was a child. I've done acting as
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an adult too and if you are
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a fan of cannabis content then you've probably seen my
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show on Discovery Channel called Weed Country it's the
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most watched worldwide marijuana documentary ever made so the OGs know me for
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that but the younger generation knows me as the king of mids for midsotics and
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I didn't really fit in here at Cali Roots in my race car outfit so I went and
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got my hair did and now I do fit in so I love that I love that so let's talk about that really
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quickly. You did a reality show, right? A reality show or documentary?
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Docu-reality, a brand new category of content, which was a documentary about
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me and some other characters in the show, farmers, the cops,
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a kid with cancer, a doctor.
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And then it's also a reality in that, a reality series in that there's a little bit of the drama.
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There's a little bit of storyboarding as well, but the genesis of everything
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happening was true and revolved around me getting raided by the feds and going
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to jail in 2012 for opening up the first suspensory in downtown Vallejo.
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And I filmed and documented the entire process, pitched it to them. They said, no.
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Then I got ready to went to jail. Then they said, yes, with jail he's at.
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And then we got a budget for a show. I got to co-create it, co-produce it and co-star in it.
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Wow. Mike, he does a lot just like you do. Well, I was going to ask,
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is this something that you pitched or is this something that people came to
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you, but you said you pitched it.
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So did you have to reenact getting arrested in the jail or no?
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No, I didn't have to reenact anything because we had all of it on camera because
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we were filming everything, actively filming and pitching and making DVDs,
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pitch reel, sizzle reel, storyboarding out the episodes. So we already had two
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years of content in the can.
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Then the feds showed up, and they didn't know that they were on camera.
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Yeah, so I have it all. I have it all. And then green light the show with a
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budget, bring in all the ensemble characters.
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I go meet a farmer to get some packs after my shop gets shut down.
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Then the police are following me. I'm fighting with my girlfriend,
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arguing with farmers over prices, and they think I'm a city boy that's hot who just got raided.
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So there's a little bit of a drama going on in there as well.
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So that's where they sow in that drama by bringing a big cast of characters
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in and having us interact with each other But we all had our own stories as
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well that we brought together to make a show.
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Wow, that's incredible So, you know, we we haven't really talked to me people
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who've done reality reality show work Let me ask this did you ever find it to be a challenge to be?
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Maybe like a character of yourself or did where you always come in and just always being yourself
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uh in that show i kept it 100 and that's
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why a lot of people didn't like it but you know
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i was like i'm breaking the law on tv so what you know
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what i mean and then um but they did you know um
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set me in situations that that um would naturally produce some uh antagonists
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protagonist situations and that's the beauty of tv and and that you can create
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something that you want and present it in the way that you want it to get people to be engaged.
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You know what I mean? Sometimes the real stories are actually better than the ones they conjure up.
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You can't tell every story, though. You have to tell only a couple stories.
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Yeah, I think it's always about storytelling, right? It's having the select
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moments to get it out there. Would you agree with that?
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Yeah, and I've always been curious about reality TV.
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Like, how much of it is real? Is there like a kernel of truth?
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And I guess there's writers, I would assume.
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Or they just say, oh, that seems interesting. Please embellish that more.
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And then they hit record. Is that kind of how it works?
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Generally, yes. Yes, they will say that you two are going to talk about this
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subject and then we're just going to see what happens.
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We want you to be a be a jerk to him and try to elicit a response and then let's
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just spitball and see what happens. Now, in my case, I had a mission.
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I did get raided. I did go to jail. My shop was shut down. The feds were on my ass.
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And what did I need to do? I needed to go get more weed.
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So I went to go meet a particular person who was already prearranged, but had his own story.
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So then you put two characters together who were both have their own story.
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the cops following me so them in are they really following
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me and then they're busting another farm switch to another story somewhere
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else let's go back to matt's story in vallejo let's go
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back to the guys getting raided over here and now you have multiple
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storylines going on and so it resonates
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with different people farmers watched for the farmer stuff city people
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hustlers and trappers and retailers watched because of my
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story and then people who were empathetic to cancer and
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like the sickness side of the healing properties of cannabis watched for
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the kid and in the doctor side of it so there
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was a law enforcement element in the show as well for people who
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don't like we don't see these weed idiots get busted you know what i mean so
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it was really one of the best weed tv shows ever made in world history and we
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got you know a nice budget for we had a helicopter following my porsche driving
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through fucking humble which pissed everybody off then i became persona non
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grata and they didn't want me up there and it caused problems for me in the
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industry but somebody had
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to make the first marijuana docu reality and it was me wow what
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a story i love that now what are you what
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do you got going on now these days well now we have our brand midzotics
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we are all about the middle class thousandaire flex
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and we are self-funded family business known as a hype brand affordable buyer
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for the cost-conscious custody we're here at roots in the equity trade network
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the lounge and we're selling our live resin disposable vapes here at this show
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but we We have a full menu of products that we sell in stores in California.
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We're also in the New Mexico market and Washington, D.C. market now. Wow.
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Mike, I know this is almost blowing your mind right now. Yes. Well, yeah.
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I mean, I didn't even know until he told me before we came over here that there
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was a reality show about weed. And so...
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But also, let me just say this. I also lived in Vallejo for a short amount of time.
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And Vallejo is almost like a third world country.
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Especially at like 5 o'clock on, what is it, Solano? On a Friday?
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Sonoma. Sorry, Sonoma. Yes. On the blade. On the blade.
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Apparently you know what I'm talking about. Yes. I live two blocks from the
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blade. All the ladies of the night know me as Freckles.
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Oh, okay. I like that. Go fuck with Freckles.
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Don't fucking freckles. You know what? I can't. That's like, that's amazing.
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So before we wrap up here, where can my audience learn more about your products,
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learn more about you and where can they buy your product?
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So we're heavy on Instagram at mid Zodiac, spell it all the way out. We're shadow band.
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There's a couple of copycat pages cause we're fucking killing it.
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So you can follow me personally.
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Shotwell, my last name, legal trapping on Instagram.
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And we also do riff raffs brand for him too.
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If you're friends with riff raff, the rap we do here, and you can find us in
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stores around the Bay area, midxotics.com if you want to see our merch,
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so yeah I love it go check them out great
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stuff and Mike do you have any last words your whole outfit the colors it's
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great you know you look like you're ready to change a tire on a car a NASCAR
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maybe for you know like in days of thunder but hi but hi yes I love that thank
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you guys thank you so much for taking the time and everybody we'll be right back after this break,
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All right, everybody. Uncle Dad here hanging out with Mike. Mike,
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say hello. Hello, hello. So, Mike, we're talking about another one of my favorite
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things in the world, as always, cannabis.
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We talked about it earlier. We're talking about it some more.
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And we're actually with somebody who represents one of my favorite brands in
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the entire world, Lowell Herb Company.
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Or is it Herb Co. now? It's Lowell Herb Co. Yeah.
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Absolutely amazing. We're with Chris. Chris, can you tell the audience your
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position and what you do for?
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So, I'm a VP of sales. I've been with the company since 2018.
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I run the entire sales team all throughout California.
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Wow. So when you came on to this brand, I feel like Lolo Herb has just been blowing up recently.
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When you came on, did you ever see the trajectory of where it would go,
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or you just knew it was a good product?
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We just focused on quality. We're one of the first that had actually a real
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nice, classy packaging.
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A lot of times when I meet customers, they say it was the first product they
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ever bought at a retail dispensary.
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So I think the focus on quality, customer service, I knew we were going to win long-term.
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Yeah, absolutely. And you know, You know, it's funny. I was telling him earlier
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off, Mike, that what I find your packaging and your overall product,
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to me, it's the gentleman's choice.
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You know what I mean? And I don't mean that like, you know, as picking one sex
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or the other, but it's the classiest choice to choose, right?
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Now that concept, was that always the initial idea or was that something that grew throughout time?
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Yeah, we wanted to kind of break the stigma where Canvas was about five years ago.
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And this is something that you could just pull out of your pocket.
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You could put it, throw it out at a party, and it's just going to have that
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more upper classier type feel than what But Prop 215 packaging originally was,
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whereas, you know, Mylar is baggies.
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Yeah, lots of plastic bags. Mike, you know, you're a graphic designer.
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What are your thoughts on their packaging? Yeah, well, so, yes.
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Hi, I'm Mike, Chris. And, yes, also a designer.
437
00:27:06,243 --> 00:27:11,643
And so with the packaging, is that something that you guys sought out a designer for?
438
00:27:12,643 --> 00:27:16,883
I'm always fascinated about, like, how design of a company comes to be.
439
00:27:16,963 --> 00:27:20,423
Like, how did it come to be with that? Was that something you set forward?
440
00:27:21,183 --> 00:27:23,283
Or was that something that the designer brought to you guys?
441
00:27:23,783 --> 00:27:27,043
That was actually the vision of the original CEO.
442
00:27:27,903 --> 00:27:31,763
The story was he kind of had it on his computer. He kind of brought it out to
443
00:27:31,763 --> 00:27:34,423
the marketing department. And it kind of just spitballed from there.
444
00:27:34,843 --> 00:27:38,863
So, yeah. Oh, wow. Okay. So, you have lots of products now.
445
00:27:38,923 --> 00:27:41,983
Now, I didn't realize, are you guys owned by different brands?
446
00:27:42,003 --> 00:27:43,563
Or is this partnerships with different brands?
447
00:27:43,863 --> 00:27:46,443
Yeah. So, we're also a distribution company.
448
00:27:47,323 --> 00:27:51,403
So, we distribute for about 20 other brands right now. These are some of our
449
00:27:51,403 --> 00:27:52,843
brand partners here at the show today.
450
00:27:53,903 --> 00:27:56,843
So we kind of have something for everyone. Like we have blunts now,
451
00:27:57,083 --> 00:28:00,123
even coffee, infused joints.
452
00:28:00,503 --> 00:28:04,283
So, yeah, just wanted to have something for our retail partners to hit every
453
00:28:04,283 --> 00:28:07,283
single demographic and every menu item.
454
00:28:07,523 --> 00:28:10,903
So can we talk about, or do you have something to say? I'm just going to say, you mentioned coffee.
455
00:28:11,043 --> 00:28:14,583
You guys are serving weed-infused coffee here at the booth. I've never,
456
00:28:14,803 --> 00:28:16,103
I've been to a lot of festivals.
457
00:28:16,443 --> 00:28:20,083
I've been to Burning Man, I've been to all the things. I've never been anywhere
458
00:28:20,083 --> 00:28:22,443
where I've seen anyone serving,
459
00:28:23,448 --> 00:28:26,888
marijuana infused coffee like that is so i
460
00:28:26,888 --> 00:28:29,548
think it's dope now that that concept what how
461
00:28:29,548 --> 00:28:32,668
does that process work do you know uh so this
462
00:28:32,668 --> 00:28:35,448
is one of our brand partners so we don't own it but we distribute and sell
463
00:28:35,448 --> 00:28:40,768
for them but yeah the concept's cool it's a k cup sell one single serve they
464
00:28:40,768 --> 00:28:44,348
also have 100 milligram bags that are ground coffee that they sell at the dispensary
465
00:28:44,348 --> 00:28:48,628
but for ease for the show you know to keep lines down we just have the self-serve
466
00:28:48,628 --> 00:28:53,028
station with the pod i say it's a a whole nother way to wake and bake, right?
467
00:28:54,028 --> 00:28:56,988
It's literally waking and baking. I love that. Mike, you know what that means?
468
00:28:57,388 --> 00:28:58,808
I think you should try it on there.
469
00:28:59,428 --> 00:29:02,628
Well, no, because if I try, I'm just going to stare at the wall for the rest
470
00:29:02,628 --> 00:29:05,408
of the time we're here. So I can't do that yet. Yeah. Oh, okay.
471
00:29:05,908 --> 00:29:09,808
So before we wrap up, can you tell our audience where they can find the products
472
00:29:09,808 --> 00:29:11,288
or where they can connect with the brand?
473
00:29:11,908 --> 00:29:15,948
Yeah. So, I mean, we're in about 400 retailers across the state.
474
00:29:16,008 --> 00:29:19,148
If you're looking for a local shop out in Salinas or Seaside.
475
00:29:19,268 --> 00:29:22,848
The Reef carries pretty much our full lineup of products, the coffee,
476
00:29:22,988 --> 00:29:25,108
the pre-rolls, the vapes, everything that we have.
477
00:29:25,308 --> 00:29:27,888
Awesome. Honestly, everybody listening, you guys have to listen.
478
00:29:28,288 --> 00:29:30,988
You have to get it because seriously, I believe Lowell Herb,
479
00:29:30,988 --> 00:29:34,888
in my opinion, is the best brand, period, in cannabis.
480
00:29:35,228 --> 00:29:37,348
And I really mean that. I'm not just saying that because you're on the mic.
481
00:29:37,628 --> 00:29:40,668
I absolutely mean that. This is the number one thing I only buy.
482
00:29:40,868 --> 00:29:43,648
And if a dispensary stops carrying that product, I will go to
483
00:29:43,648 --> 00:29:46,388
another other one just to get that so thank you so much for
484
00:29:46,388 --> 00:29:49,648
your time really appreciate it awesome thank you very much hello everybody
485
00:29:49,648 --> 00:29:52,688
this is day three of cali roots and you're hanging out with uncle
486
00:29:52,688 --> 00:29:57,428
dad and of course the man the man with the sweat the sweetest jackets the one
487
00:29:57,428 --> 00:30:02,348
and only mike hampton it's day three but it feels like it could be day 20 doesn't
488
00:30:02,348 --> 00:30:05,788
it always feel like the case when we do any of these events uh yeah yeah well
489
00:30:05,788 --> 00:30:12,228
you know one day at a festival like this is equivalent to of five days in real life.
490
00:30:13,268 --> 00:30:16,728
I think you're right, especially when you're walking back and forth trying to
491
00:30:16,728 --> 00:30:19,768
get somebody to do an interview, trying to figure out where we're doing the
492
00:30:19,768 --> 00:30:21,288
interview, and then you make it happen.
493
00:30:22,088 --> 00:30:23,668
And you're also working a booth.
494
00:30:24,668 --> 00:30:28,048
Yeah, exactly. It's usually how it is, too. Usually you are at a booth,
495
00:30:28,688 --> 00:30:32,328
you pull aside, and vice versa, then there you go, right? It's always a working
496
00:30:32,328 --> 00:30:33,828
thing for you. But you know what?
497
00:30:34,208 --> 00:30:36,408
I know you wouldn't have it any other way because it's such a fun time.
498
00:30:36,968 --> 00:30:39,928
It's a fun time. And, you know, working a booth here,
499
00:30:39,928 --> 00:30:45,428
you also have to kind of meet people on the level that they're out here and
500
00:30:45,428 --> 00:30:52,348
most people at a festival like this are in some type of way so you must be in
501
00:30:52,348 --> 00:30:57,728
some type of way to meet them on some level or you have to be a really good actor,
502
00:30:58,428 --> 00:31:00,788
you know I like to believe I'm really good actor.
503
00:31:02,527 --> 00:31:06,807
You are. Thank you. Somebody did call me earlier, Drama Queen.
504
00:31:07,587 --> 00:31:12,807
I'm figuring it all out today, actually. You son of a bitch.
505
00:31:13,767 --> 00:31:16,847
So we are going to interview some artists. Do you want to say who they are now,
506
00:31:16,927 --> 00:31:19,387
or do you want to wait until we introduce them? Yeah, we'll let them introduce themselves.
507
00:31:19,667 --> 00:31:24,227
So a big part of Cali Roots is the music, but also the artists.
508
00:31:24,567 --> 00:31:29,687
And so there's a lot of local artists to the Monterey Bay area.
509
00:31:29,687 --> 00:31:32,727
And uh it's it's
510
00:31:32,727 --> 00:31:35,967
always been a big part of this festival so i think
511
00:31:35,967 --> 00:31:38,847
it's it's almost more important for me because i'm
512
00:31:38,847 --> 00:31:42,007
an artist to promote visual artists
513
00:31:42,007 --> 00:31:46,727
i love it now can i ask you a question before we go people told me this and
514
00:31:46,727 --> 00:31:51,647
i'm curious what you think am i an artist too are you an artist do you what
515
00:31:51,647 --> 00:31:56,867
do you think i i want to say yes but not a visual artist you're not a visual
516
00:31:56,867 --> 00:31:58,987
Yeah, you don't do visual art.
517
00:31:59,527 --> 00:32:04,147
I do audio art. Audio art. Is that a thing? Is that a thing? I'm asking you.
518
00:32:05,347 --> 00:32:09,387
We're going to have to look this up. Well, don't ruin my... I was like,
519
00:32:09,407 --> 00:32:11,647
yeah, I'm an artist, sure. Now I'm like, oh, maybe I'm not.
520
00:32:12,247 --> 00:32:16,747
I mean, you know, art, what is art? What is art indeed? It's a...
521
00:32:16,747 --> 00:32:19,687
What did Aristotle say? It's a long, deep conversation.
522
00:32:21,387 --> 00:32:24,187
All right, Uncle Dad here, hanging out with one of the artists right next to
523
00:32:24,187 --> 00:32:25,107
our booth, which is Callie.
524
00:32:25,567 --> 00:32:29,427
I got to say I'm so excited because the energy right now is through the roof.
525
00:32:29,487 --> 00:32:31,127
Ain't that right, Mike? Well, it's Sunday.
526
00:32:32,267 --> 00:32:36,387
It's a day of worship. Day of worship indeed. What better way to worship than
527
00:32:36,387 --> 00:32:38,727
worshiping local artists? Am I right?
528
00:32:39,447 --> 00:32:41,567
That's very good, yes. I know it's good.
529
00:32:42,467 --> 00:32:45,467
Let's give it up for Sea Like the Ocean.
530
00:32:47,567 --> 00:32:50,747
How are you doing? I'm doing great. I love that introduction.
531
00:32:52,007 --> 00:32:55,287
I'm usually a pretty good introductory person, right? What do you think?
532
00:32:56,856 --> 00:33:00,876
Except when you have to say someone's last name, yes. And imagine how easy this
533
00:33:00,876 --> 00:33:02,896
is. Yes, it's just one word.
534
00:33:03,536 --> 00:33:07,216
Exactly, that's it. So Mike, you're an artist, you're an artist, see?
535
00:33:07,476 --> 00:33:15,736
Let's chat about that. Yeah, so see, who are you and what do you do?
536
00:33:17,156 --> 00:33:22,236
Okay, first of all, who am I? Who are you? Who is anyone?
537
00:33:22,796 --> 00:33:26,396
We make ourselves every day as we go. I am
538
00:33:26,396 --> 00:33:29,716
a creature in
539
00:33:29,716 --> 00:33:32,936
this planet making art as they go
540
00:33:32,936 --> 00:33:38,756
through life what do I do anything that
541
00:33:38,756 --> 00:33:42,416
seems fun mostly art but you know murals
542
00:33:42,416 --> 00:33:46,456
paintings sculptures that sort of thing yeah okay
543
00:33:46,456 --> 00:33:49,476
so so you're you're here in the
544
00:33:49,476 --> 00:33:52,396
Monterey area now but like where are.
545
00:33:52,396 --> 00:33:56,956
You from and what inspires the art that you do well I
546
00:33:56,956 --> 00:33:59,876
was originally born here but I was raised in
547
00:33:59,876 --> 00:34:02,916
Mexico and yeah the first 16
548
00:34:02,916 --> 00:34:05,976
years of my life were there but now I'm here and I'm
549
00:34:05,976 --> 00:34:08,836
way too old to care about that but
550
00:34:08,836 --> 00:34:12,376
what my art my
551
00:34:12,376 --> 00:34:15,716
feelings my feelers it's mostly really it's
552
00:34:15,716 --> 00:34:18,456
it's about the the the time in life that i'm
553
00:34:18,456 --> 00:34:21,596
living and what that feels like there's there's
554
00:34:21,596 --> 00:34:24,396
no real oh this sort of
555
00:34:24,396 --> 00:34:28,736
drives me from anywhere other than the moment so so
556
00:34:28,736 --> 00:34:32,036
the art that you are giving to the world comes
557
00:34:32,036 --> 00:34:35,056
from within your own feelings right and
558
00:34:35,056 --> 00:34:38,216
so that's a very vulnerable place
559
00:34:38,216 --> 00:34:41,236
to be as an artist to just be putting putting your
560
00:34:41,236 --> 00:34:45,016
feelings out there like that right like so how how
561
00:34:45,016 --> 00:34:47,856
does that feel for you being vulnerable in that way
562
00:34:47,856 --> 00:34:51,076
well for one i think that i have come
563
00:34:51,076 --> 00:34:54,176
to terms with considering myself a very dramatic
564
00:34:54,176 --> 00:34:57,676
person not just artists because being
565
00:34:57,676 --> 00:35:00,476
that vulnerable people are like yo come on and.
566
00:35:00,476 --> 00:35:04,616
You're like no it is what it is it's very dramatic but also
567
00:35:04,616 --> 00:35:07,476
it's to me feels very
568
00:35:07,476 --> 00:35:10,796
authentic and that's all i care about because authenticity within
569
00:35:10,796 --> 00:35:13,776
my work is the number one you know
570
00:35:13,776 --> 00:35:16,516
like uh if it's not genuine i don't
571
00:35:16,516 --> 00:35:19,596
care about it in a way so yeah it's very dramatic very
572
00:35:19,596 --> 00:35:23,076
like over the top sometimes like bro that's but
573
00:35:23,076 --> 00:35:26,196
i don't care because it's just feelings they're
574
00:35:26,196 --> 00:35:29,456
so deep at the moment and that's what it is like you
575
00:35:29,456 --> 00:35:32,336
know you know and i think to touch on what you're saying there i
576
00:35:32,336 --> 00:35:36,836
think shakespeare said it right drama is art and i think in many ways that it's
577
00:35:36,836 --> 00:35:40,436
the case right just because it's something dramatic in a negative way or even
578
00:35:40,436 --> 00:35:43,296
in a positive it doesn't matter right dramatic drama can be positive drama right
579
00:35:43,296 --> 00:35:47,396
how do you find yourself when you're displaying your artwork out there is it
580
00:35:47,396 --> 00:35:50,476
ever a challenge to get it out there or to see it through.
581
00:35:52,391 --> 00:35:56,951
I think so. I think so.
582
00:35:57,031 --> 00:36:02,011
Just putting yourself out there for people to be like, bruh, get over yourself.
583
00:36:02,391 --> 00:36:05,191
It's a thing. But it's also very cathartic.
584
00:36:05,811 --> 00:36:12,271
There's nothing like being able to pull a feeling out.
585
00:36:12,371 --> 00:36:16,551
I don't know how else to explain it. But once you can convey a feeling out very
586
00:36:16,551 --> 00:36:20,191
much like, and that's what that feels like, and you don't have to hold it anymore.
587
00:36:20,191 --> 00:36:22,971
More you don't have to like carry it it's there
588
00:36:22,971 --> 00:36:26,191
and people can relate to
589
00:36:26,191 --> 00:36:29,751
it understand see it and understand it that there's there's no better feeling
590
00:36:29,751 --> 00:36:34,471
than that it's like yeah it's very dramatic but you also feel it you also are
591
00:36:34,471 --> 00:36:40,631
experiencing exactly what that what I meant that to feel like I don't know maybe
592
00:36:40,631 --> 00:36:44,931
that's very egotistical in a way because you're like yes but But also, yes.
593
00:36:45,151 --> 00:36:48,311
You know, like I wouldn't be able to put it into words.
594
00:36:48,431 --> 00:36:53,431
You had to experience it as that was because I could never tell you what that
595
00:36:53,431 --> 00:36:55,531
feels like unless you experienced it for yourself.
596
00:36:55,731 --> 00:37:01,471
And I don't wish anyone to go through the certain things that you're trying to express through art.
597
00:37:01,551 --> 00:37:04,591
Go through because it's very painful. but if you can feel it
598
00:37:04,591 --> 00:37:08,071
through like a second lens rather you
599
00:37:08,071 --> 00:37:11,331
know like bro there's nothing like somebody understanding
600
00:37:11,331 --> 00:37:13,971
you on that level without having to go
601
00:37:13,971 --> 00:37:17,391
through that pain themselves to understand what you're going through well there's
602
00:37:17,391 --> 00:37:22,131
something about art where you as the artist create a piece and it means what
603
00:37:22,131 --> 00:37:28,131
it means to you but then people see the art and they interpret it for whatever
604
00:37:28,131 --> 00:37:32,831
it means for them when they see it you know it so So hopefully at some point
605
00:37:32,831 --> 00:37:35,251
there is a common ground,
606
00:37:35,451 --> 00:37:36,951
but if not, it's fine.
607
00:37:37,111 --> 00:37:40,151
People interpret art however they do.
608
00:37:41,531 --> 00:37:48,111
So you do a mixed bag of art. You've done murals, you've done paintings.
609
00:37:50,519 --> 00:37:54,599
If people wanted to see your art in the online world, where could they find
610
00:37:54,599 --> 00:37:56,379
you? In the online world?
611
00:37:57,339 --> 00:38:01,939
My artwork only exists on Instagram, sadly, these days.
612
00:38:03,479 --> 00:38:06,459
Which, this is where I insert my handle, I'm assuming. Yeah.
613
00:38:06,539 --> 00:38:10,639
Okay. So this is where you go at, at Art de Sevilla.
614
00:38:11,159 --> 00:38:18,279
That's A-R-T-D-E-S-E-V-I-L-L-A. And that's mostly where the artwork lives at.
615
00:38:18,279 --> 00:38:22,639
But if you want to see some work that I've done out in the world like there's
616
00:38:22,639 --> 00:38:26,879
several murals that I have done in the Monterey Peninsula including like Salinas
617
00:38:26,879 --> 00:38:34,119
and Seaside and there's a sculpture in the in San Francisco that you could see
618
00:38:34,119 --> 00:38:37,699
in the Chinese Strict you know on the St.
619
00:38:37,799 --> 00:38:44,979
Mary's Square I got to work on that monument that is also pretty cool and it's
620
00:38:44,979 --> 00:38:46,479
out in the world and you can go see
621
00:38:46,559 --> 00:38:50,219
it for free so there's that and uh yeah that's
622
00:38:50,219 --> 00:38:53,059
mostly most of the the things that you would find
623
00:38:53,059 --> 00:38:56,339
are that's that's where they're at yeah sorry well
624
00:38:56,339 --> 00:38:59,499
no that's very fair and and you know like you're you're
625
00:38:59,499 --> 00:39:02,519
seeing meeting
626
00:39:02,519 --> 00:39:06,119
you in person you're one of the most enjoyable artists at
627
00:39:06,119 --> 00:39:08,859
these events that i get to meet and so
628
00:39:08,859 --> 00:39:11,519
it's always a pleasure to talk to you and thanks for for coming on our
629
00:39:11,519 --> 00:39:14,439
show and I love your work
630
00:39:14,439 --> 00:39:17,199
and I and I feel like who you are as a
631
00:39:17,199 --> 00:39:21,279
person comes through in your artwork and it's
632
00:39:21,279 --> 00:39:24,779
just a gift to the world so thank you for for giving us for giving
633
00:39:24,779 --> 00:39:27,659
us that thank you so much for having me thank
634
00:39:27,659 --> 00:39:30,459
you so much for carrying words that's really nice and uh
635
00:39:30,459 --> 00:39:36,059
yeah no I thank you guys for having me and uh yeah then hopefully there'll be
636
00:39:36,059 --> 00:39:42,899
more one more question though i'm mexican as well very proud of it right i don't
637
00:39:42,899 --> 00:39:47,999
speak spanish but that's okay we don't judge okay so let me ask you this question
638
00:39:47,999 --> 00:39:49,339
here what is your favorite.
639
00:39:50,159 --> 00:39:53,759
Back home mexican dish you could ever have oh man there's nothing like street tacos,
640
00:39:54,299 --> 00:40:00,939
i'm sorry i am sorry i i just got back from freaking europe and through all
641
00:40:00,939 --> 00:40:04,959
those two weeks So I could think about is oh man if I could just have some tacos
642
00:40:04,959 --> 00:40:08,799
like it doesn't even matter of what just treat That goes anything,
643
00:40:09,559 --> 00:40:11,959
hands down I Love that.
644
00:40:11,999 --> 00:40:17,219
I love that and I Have to ask you one last thing. What part of Mexico are you from Jalisco?
645
00:40:17,419 --> 00:40:20,239
Okay, so my family's from each other God Oh, so we're neighbors.
646
00:40:20,519 --> 00:40:27,079
Yes You can come visit anytime. I love that over that he can't come though He's too cool.
647
00:40:27,559 --> 00:40:32,819
I mean, I'll visit Thank you so much for your time, and we'll be right back after this break.
648
00:40:36,034 --> 00:40:40,434
Yo, what up, everybody? Uncle Dad here again with Mike. Mike, say hello. Hello.
649
00:40:41,394 --> 00:40:45,094
Overtime. Say hello. Hello, hello. There we go.
650
00:40:45,174 --> 00:40:50,214
We are hanging out with probably the coolest OG on the block.
651
00:40:50,914 --> 00:40:56,074
Let's give it up for another artist, Avelino. Hi, nice to meet you guys.
652
00:40:56,354 --> 00:40:59,954
This is Avelino from Monterey. How gangster is that?
653
00:41:00,534 --> 00:41:03,354
Oh, he's gangster. Yeah, he's OG, yes. You can totally tell.
654
00:41:03,414 --> 00:41:05,834
This guy's rapping. He's down. Yes.
655
00:41:07,354 --> 00:41:09,334
Mike, since you're the artist, I'm going to hand this over to you,
656
00:41:09,354 --> 00:41:14,314
and we'll go ahead and learn about his story. So, Abelino, so you're here in Monterey.
657
00:41:14,874 --> 00:41:20,074
You're at Cali Roots. How many years have you been doing art here at Cali Roots?
658
00:41:20,814 --> 00:41:25,454
I've been working here in Monterey for about five years with my group,
659
00:41:25,694 --> 00:41:28,454
the muralists that we call Laneta Murals.
660
00:41:28,814 --> 00:41:33,914
And they hit me up about three years ago to do the first one here.
661
00:41:33,914 --> 00:41:36,894
And then from there I just be here every
662
00:41:36,894 --> 00:41:40,114
year so which is so cool so you
663
00:41:40,114 --> 00:41:43,234
do you're with a group that this mural so and we're
664
00:41:43,234 --> 00:41:46,894
here in Monterey just like do you do murals
665
00:41:46,894 --> 00:41:52,914
like specifically in this Monterey area or like all over California like where
666
00:41:52,914 --> 00:41:56,974
do people see the murals that you're associated with so we start here in Monterey
667
00:41:56,974 --> 00:42:05,314
and then we span to to seaside and then Sand City and And then we went to Salinas,
668
00:42:05,314 --> 00:42:06,814
so we have a big mural there.
669
00:42:07,594 --> 00:42:13,454
We got a contract with Caltrans and then with the city of Monterey.
670
00:42:13,474 --> 00:42:15,714
And then now we're going to...
671
00:42:16,940 --> 00:42:20,360
King city and then we're doing watsonville too
672
00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:23,300
so we we kind of like now we're growing
673
00:42:23,300 --> 00:42:27,600
and and also my my my
674
00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:30,940
partner is going to chicago to do like festivals and
675
00:42:30,940 --> 00:42:33,740
all that i just keep it down right
676
00:42:33,740 --> 00:42:36,840
here but we are lovers so we just
677
00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:40,400
got we try you have the whole bowl like
678
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:43,600
locked up but like so I've
679
00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:47,240
seen you at a few festivals here and you're the way
680
00:42:47,240 --> 00:42:49,960
that you do your work you're very
681
00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:52,680
quick like you you put it up and
682
00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:55,460
use like you see what it is
683
00:42:55,460 --> 00:42:58,220
that you're seeing in your mind that you're portraying like
684
00:42:58,220 --> 00:43:01,060
it it's very fast and then you do
685
00:43:01,060 --> 00:43:04,580
the details slowly later as
686
00:43:04,580 --> 00:43:07,400
like the days go on so like in your
687
00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:10,060
process like do you already have it
688
00:43:10,060 --> 00:43:13,100
in mind or does it come about like as
689
00:43:13,100 --> 00:43:15,780
you're as you're doing the piece yeah kind of
690
00:43:15,780 --> 00:43:22,040
I have something in mind but it's like I just want to place the piece there
691
00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:27,200
and then it's the rest of the day so the rest of the time I trying to figure
692
00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:34,240
it out like a spontaneous like colors and all that stuff like to make.
693
00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:37,520
A piece like you know vibe and and
694
00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:41,080
and nice you know what i mean yeah so
695
00:43:41,080 --> 00:43:43,980
like here you know cali roots there's a lot uh the
696
00:43:43,980 --> 00:43:47,180
marley brothers are some of the headliners here
697
00:43:47,180 --> 00:43:51,120
and your your piece that you did here your mural is very inspired by that but
698
00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:56,760
you also have this interesting uh logo design this year that's new that's uh
699
00:43:56,760 --> 00:44:04,500
it's on your hat you have shirts of it uh and it's it's almost It's almost like the NBA or the MLB logo,
700
00:44:04,720 --> 00:44:09,660
but it's of a silhouette of a man's spray painting with the.
701
00:44:11,495 --> 00:44:17,055
Certain colors. Do you want to elaborate on more of what that is?
702
00:44:17,495 --> 00:44:20,395
Yeah, I get inspired for that logo for NBA.
703
00:44:20,995 --> 00:44:24,015
You know, that is also for baseball and all that.
704
00:44:24,715 --> 00:44:28,275
So I was thinking to design my logo.
705
00:44:28,655 --> 00:44:32,675
It was so difficult to create that, but I just saw that logo.
706
00:44:32,735 --> 00:44:35,335
The NBA is like, wait a minute.
707
00:44:35,495 --> 00:44:39,495
It just popped up to me like, wait, I can do that?
708
00:44:39,495 --> 00:44:42,495
Myself get into there and
709
00:44:42,495 --> 00:44:46,715
make kind of the same and also
710
00:44:46,715 --> 00:44:49,775
for about this mural it's like I get inspired because the
711
00:44:49,775 --> 00:44:52,795
family Marley is gonna be here so I want
712
00:44:52,795 --> 00:44:55,755
to represent like all
713
00:44:55,755 --> 00:44:58,935
the people that reggae music and all that movement
714
00:44:58,935 --> 00:45:01,755
that he creates so I just
715
00:45:01,755 --> 00:45:04,575
I just do it I just did it like
716
00:45:04,575 --> 00:45:07,355
no it's dope and i think the logo like any
717
00:45:07,355 --> 00:45:10,495
any artist who does work with a can a spray
718
00:45:10,495 --> 00:45:13,855
can would would definitely resonate with that uh what
719
00:45:13,855 --> 00:45:17,975
do you think uh uncle dad oh absolutely there's also like a certain level of
720
00:45:17,975 --> 00:45:21,615
time going back to our last conversation a certain level of drama with like
721
00:45:21,615 --> 00:45:26,495
graffiti or or um mural murals right there's a certain level of emotion attached
722
00:45:26,495 --> 00:45:30,475
to it when you do any of that stuff so i'm curious are you a fan like who is
723
00:45:30,475 --> 00:45:33,315
the the the muralist or the like a
724
00:45:33,395 --> 00:45:37,775
graffiti artist or crew that you truly get inspired, inspire, get inspiration from?
725
00:45:38,615 --> 00:45:43,595
Honestly, I don't, I don't want to be like a troll about that.
726
00:45:43,675 --> 00:45:51,395
Like that, but I, I'm not, I don't have a, like a big name on that.
727
00:45:52,536 --> 00:45:57,436
I just aspire for everybody. If I saw one thing that I like,
728
00:45:57,556 --> 00:46:04,796
even if it's a local or someone that doesn't have a name, but if I like it, I take it in mind.
729
00:46:06,096 --> 00:46:13,636
I'm being inspired for all of them. But I don't have specific people to follow, you know what I mean?
730
00:46:13,916 --> 00:46:20,336
But I love all the art, all the techniques, everything about art.
731
00:46:20,396 --> 00:46:26,256
I love it. I love that all these two, you know, the people who start doing art,
732
00:46:26,356 --> 00:46:33,196
and I love to see the new people that is growing, and I take everything from everybody.
733
00:46:33,976 --> 00:46:36,276
I love that, man. Mike, do you have any last questions? Well,
734
00:46:36,276 --> 00:46:41,616
it's beautiful. And so, Alina, where can our listeners find your art online
735
00:46:41,616 --> 00:46:43,456
so that they can check out what you're doing?
736
00:46:43,576 --> 00:46:46,376
Because, you know, we're an audio show, but we want people to see what you do.
737
00:46:46,496 --> 00:46:47,456
Where can people find you?
738
00:46:47,856 --> 00:46:51,516
Instagram, website, whatever. Yeah, I'm on Instagram and Facebook,
739
00:46:51,656 --> 00:46:58,676
Abel Sanher, A-B-E-L Sanher, so they can find me there and see what I'm doing
740
00:46:58,676 --> 00:47:02,356
there, and also they can message me if they want something,
741
00:47:02,516 --> 00:47:07,596
commission or merchandise or whatever I have there.
742
00:47:07,876 --> 00:47:10,396
Look at that, on the hustle and on the grind, I love that, man.
743
00:47:10,576 --> 00:47:12,916
Before we leave, though, I've got to ask you one last question,
744
00:47:13,016 --> 00:47:14,796
because you are, you're Mexican, correct?
745
00:47:14,956 --> 00:47:17,336
Yeah, Mexico City. Mexico City? Okay.
746
00:47:17,536 --> 00:47:19,596
What is your favorite Mexican dish, period?
747
00:47:20,216 --> 00:47:25,496
Mole. Ooh, good answer. And good mole. And mole is different throughout Mexico.
748
00:47:25,776 --> 00:47:26,716
A lot of people don't know that.
749
00:47:27,176 --> 00:47:29,436
In all the states, it's different.
750
00:47:29,956 --> 00:47:33,936
But, you know, Mexico is full of cultures there.
751
00:47:34,056 --> 00:47:40,756
It's like here in California, it's a lot of migrants from all over the world.
752
00:47:40,756 --> 00:47:44,196
So it's like Mexico City, it's also the same thing.
753
00:47:44,316 --> 00:47:48,336
Like all over the country, they just get there in that point,
754
00:47:48,496 --> 00:47:53,456
so they create their own dishes and their own culture though, so yeah.
755
00:47:53,736 --> 00:47:56,516
I love that, I still haven't been, but I gotta make that happen, right Mike?
756
00:47:57,505 --> 00:48:01,525
I've been. You have to go. If I've been there, you've got to go there.
757
00:48:01,885 --> 00:48:05,645
Yeah, I think so. How do you like it? I loved it. I love Mexico City.
758
00:48:05,925 --> 00:48:09,245
The food, the people, it was clean.
759
00:48:11,225 --> 00:48:15,925
It's such a huge city. The art is amazing, too. There's murals and art everywhere.
760
00:48:16,985 --> 00:48:20,505
We've got to get Uncle Dad down there. I think we do. Maybe that's the next
761
00:48:20,505 --> 00:48:23,965
On Location. Let's do it. Let's do it. We'll be right back after this break.
762
00:48:25,925 --> 00:48:29,105
Hey everybody this is jacob bruner from empire strikes
763
00:48:29,105 --> 00:48:31,905
brass and you are listening to uncle dad
764
00:48:31,905 --> 00:48:35,205
talks good evening everybody welcome back to
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00:48:35,205 --> 00:48:38,125
uncle dad talks i'm with my man as always just like
766
00:48:38,125 --> 00:48:41,085
mike say hello hello hello mike we
767
00:48:41,085 --> 00:48:43,805
have a very great guest uh some would argue one of
768
00:48:43,805 --> 00:48:46,845
the best guests we ever have on the show she's funny
769
00:48:46,845 --> 00:48:50,545
she's witty she's she's exuberant she's
770
00:48:50,545 --> 00:48:54,025
talented artists artists full
771
00:48:54,025 --> 00:48:56,905
of energy the best way
772
00:48:56,905 --> 00:49:00,405
i could put it is that if there was a ball that represented
773
00:49:00,405 --> 00:49:03,045
the sun which there is she would be the
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00:49:03,045 --> 00:49:06,245
physical interpretation of that let's give it up my friends
775
00:49:06,245 --> 00:49:10,465
to callie dunlap art well her name
776
00:49:10,465 --> 00:49:13,485
is callie dunlap and callie
777
00:49:13,485 --> 00:49:17,545
dunlap does art just like
778
00:49:17,545 --> 00:49:22,645
the ball of sun is a ball ball yeah
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00:49:22,645 --> 00:49:25,785
i tried i tried to give you a grand uh entrance counting
780
00:49:25,785 --> 00:49:31,685
hopefully that did well i don't know it's grand yeah thank you do you approve
781
00:49:31,685 --> 00:49:36,785
or no i think i think it was the grandest intro you did this whole episode so
782
00:49:36,785 --> 00:49:41,785
very well done yeah well yeah you know what we're very excited to talk to you
783
00:49:41,785 --> 00:49:44,685
we didn't get a chance to talk to you while you were there doing your whole shebang.
784
00:49:45,205 --> 00:49:47,005
It was making sure everyone was warm.
785
00:49:47,605 --> 00:49:51,965
Yes. But you are absolutely incredibly talented.
786
00:49:52,025 --> 00:49:55,385
You've been on the show here and there, but this is your first time technically
787
00:49:55,385 --> 00:49:57,425
as a real guest. How does that feel?
788
00:49:57,925 --> 00:50:00,645
I feel warm and cozy like the sunshine.
789
00:50:02,085 --> 00:50:03,285
I was right. Awesome.
790
00:50:05,145 --> 00:50:08,725
Mike, I'll let you kick it off and then I will ping it afterwards.
791
00:50:09,005 --> 00:50:10,945
Please. Let's do big things.
792
00:50:11,445 --> 00:50:16,605
Yeah, Kelly. well uh thank you for being a guest on our on our show here as
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00:50:16,605 --> 00:50:19,445
you are also a guest of cali roots,
794
00:50:20,005 --> 00:50:23,345
you're a muralist a mural artist as as
795
00:50:23,345 --> 00:50:29,865
other people might put it one of several here and and this is this is the third
796
00:50:29,865 --> 00:50:34,725
year you've been you've been selected as an artist for cali roots how does that
797
00:50:34,725 --> 00:50:39,725
first of all how does that feel and how does it feel being on your third year
798
00:50:39,725 --> 00:50:43,225
compared to your first year yeah okay yeah thank you guys.
799
00:50:44,209 --> 00:50:49,769
I, yeah, this is my third year doing this. It's so great. I look forward to this event every year.
800
00:50:50,389 --> 00:50:53,989
It's, you know, technically my festival here, Cali Roots. Right.
801
00:50:54,329 --> 00:50:56,129
Your name's in the top, right? Right.
802
00:50:56,589 --> 00:51:00,729
Yeah. But, you know, from the first year to now, things have changed so much.
803
00:51:00,789 --> 00:51:02,949
The first year I did this, I was so nervous.
804
00:51:03,089 --> 00:51:05,949
I was so scared. I'd never done anything like this before.
805
00:51:06,589 --> 00:51:11,369
I really, I took a big chance doing that and kind of use it as a launching point
806
00:51:11,369 --> 00:51:14,849
for me to consider myself as a full-time artist, try and take myself more seriously.
807
00:51:15,469 --> 00:51:19,049
My third year, I felt, or my second year, I felt a lot easier, kind of smooth.
808
00:51:19,209 --> 00:51:22,469
I went with the flow more. And this year, year I really went in
809
00:51:22,469 --> 00:51:25,129
doing something totally new I you know
810
00:51:25,129 --> 00:51:28,789
imagery wise and then by the last day I started
811
00:51:28,789 --> 00:51:31,569
learning new techniques from my booth neighbor or from my you
812
00:51:31,569 --> 00:51:34,249
know mural neighbors and then started kind of let
813
00:51:34,249 --> 00:51:38,749
you know I let everyone else kind of paint on it too it just became a collaborative
814
00:51:38,749 --> 00:51:43,069
piece by the end which is something I've never done before live painting and
815
00:51:43,069 --> 00:51:48,389
so it really was kind of a great learning experience yeah you explained to me
816
00:51:48,389 --> 00:51:52,369
you know a bit as you you were talking about what you wanted to do,
817
00:51:52,389 --> 00:51:54,089
something different for this mural,
818
00:51:54,229 --> 00:51:56,249
because you've also done murals at another festival,
819
00:51:56,869 --> 00:52:02,829
put on by the same group called Rebels and Renegades. So you wanted to do something a little different.
820
00:52:03,209 --> 00:52:06,809
You weren't sure. You kicked around a few ideas. And this one kind of just organically
821
00:52:06,809 --> 00:52:09,689
came to be with involving other people.
822
00:52:09,729 --> 00:52:14,309
So it kind of ended up being a communal piece, which is really fun,
823
00:52:14,469 --> 00:52:17,789
I think, for a lot of people to feel involved in that way. Yeah.
824
00:52:18,709 --> 00:52:25,669
And your style in itself is so unique. Each artist here is unique in their own
825
00:52:25,669 --> 00:52:27,109
style, but yours really sticks out.
826
00:52:27,409 --> 00:52:31,249
I see yours, and I definitely know it's yours.
827
00:52:31,329 --> 00:52:36,069
Sometimes other artists I see, it might take a moment to know who it is,
828
00:52:36,149 --> 00:52:37,649
maybe if I see the signature.
829
00:52:37,789 --> 00:52:40,529
But how would you describe your art style?
830
00:52:41,815 --> 00:52:48,255
Well, I don't know the right words exactly, like one succinct name to say what
831
00:52:48,255 --> 00:52:51,075
my style is. But what I'm trying to do is explore colors and light.
832
00:52:51,395 --> 00:52:57,035
What I really want to do is describe the feeling of a place rather than just the view of a place.
833
00:52:57,695 --> 00:53:00,515
Outdoors have always been a teacher and a great part of my life.
834
00:53:00,635 --> 00:53:05,295
And I feel like I really want to express a feeling so that the viewer can have
835
00:53:05,295 --> 00:53:08,155
a connection to a place and they can make their own.
836
00:53:09,555 --> 00:53:12,495
They can they can really just you know do their own personal thing
837
00:53:12,495 --> 00:53:15,415
with it so that's kind of what i want to do i want it to be peaceful
838
00:53:15,415 --> 00:53:20,735
and colorful all at the same time and really just be more about a feeling yeah
839
00:53:20,735 --> 00:53:26,515
i wanted to oh god oh you go ahead yeah i wanted to actually touch on that i
840
00:53:26,515 --> 00:53:33,595
don't know if i've ever told you this before callie but your art uh is one of my top 10 that i love
841
00:53:33,635 --> 00:53:36,955
looking at the reason being is because it really like
842
00:53:36,955 --> 00:53:39,755
you're talking about nature being a teacher your art
843
00:53:39,755 --> 00:53:42,995
almost feels like that to me where when i look at it it kind
844
00:53:42,995 --> 00:53:46,855
of helps me almost see the things i need to work through if that makes sense
845
00:53:46,855 --> 00:53:51,035
in very different ways you know obviously you know you know me on a more personal
846
00:53:51,035 --> 00:53:54,015
level and that's you know that's nothing to do with that but because i know
847
00:53:54,015 --> 00:53:57,715
you on a personal level and because i know what your art means to you and what
848
00:53:57,715 --> 00:54:02,815
i see i want you to know that your art speaks to me and i'm sure many people in ways
849
00:54:02,935 --> 00:54:05,695
that that feels almost transcendent that allows
850
00:54:05,695 --> 00:54:08,795
me to work through the things that i've been through which
851
00:54:08,795 --> 00:54:13,215
i'm sure you're obviously aware of and it's been phenomenal to
852
00:54:13,215 --> 00:54:15,975
see your art continually grow from when i first met you
853
00:54:15,975 --> 00:54:20,975
to now and seeing you seeing you also in your element i've never really seen
854
00:54:20,975 --> 00:54:26,535
that before and so seeing you in your element was so captivating to see somebody
855
00:54:26,535 --> 00:54:31,395
you know so into their project and figuring it out and working things through
856
00:54:31,395 --> 00:54:35,355
right and what would make sense and what doesn't make sense. And.
857
00:54:36,405 --> 00:54:39,825
I think, you know, kind of going back to your comment about nature being the
858
00:54:39,825 --> 00:54:42,525
teacher, in many ways, your art is an upcoming teacher.
859
00:54:42,785 --> 00:54:46,725
And I think that is, I don't know, very, very beautiful in many ways.
860
00:54:46,745 --> 00:54:48,605
Thank you so much. Don't make me cry.
861
00:54:50,565 --> 00:54:54,685
Oh, sorry. One other thing I would just add really quick is I used to paint
862
00:54:54,685 --> 00:54:57,325
very realistic paintings and spend months on them.
863
00:54:57,365 --> 00:55:01,225
And now my style has totally changed mostly because my medium changed.
864
00:55:01,425 --> 00:55:04,045
So I used to do that in oils and now I'm using acrylics. And a
865
00:55:04,045 --> 00:55:06,805
lot of that that i have learned to you know
866
00:55:06,805 --> 00:55:09,385
step back and look at and do something else and things like that where it
867
00:55:09,385 --> 00:55:12,465
builds on itself but i have no plan i know
868
00:55:12,465 --> 00:55:15,365
that i have a thing that i want to like portray like this
869
00:55:15,365 --> 00:55:18,245
year at cali roots i wanted to do fog so i knew
870
00:55:18,245 --> 00:55:20,945
that it would build on itself and what i learned in the beginning was to really
871
00:55:20,945 --> 00:55:23,745
trust the process of it and i think a lot of that has to do with nature too
872
00:55:23,745 --> 00:55:26,745
and how you can learn about yourself and so i really appreciate
873
00:55:26,745 --> 00:55:29,645
that you feel that when you absolutely and i think actually kind
874
00:55:29,645 --> 00:55:32,505
of what you're saying too i think a lot of people sometimes die on the idea of
875
00:55:32,505 --> 00:55:35,265
this is my belief of what my art needs to be but i
876
00:55:35,265 --> 00:55:38,065
don't think it needs to be that it needs to be you know kevin smith says it
877
00:55:38,065 --> 00:55:40,965
the best it's about having the right idea right people go to war over beliefs
878
00:55:40,965 --> 00:55:43,705
no one goes over war of ideas right all right
879
00:55:43,705 --> 00:55:48,085
so yeah your art is so great on that because it is just an idea and then it
880
00:55:48,085 --> 00:55:52,645
grows from organically into something else right yeah it's whatever it is and
881
00:55:52,645 --> 00:55:57,005
so sorry am i gonna mean to i just i've always wanted to say that so thank you
882
00:55:57,005 --> 00:56:01,685
so much yeah of course thank you how dare you to say that to her on this show.
883
00:56:02,045 --> 00:56:06,185
It is great. And I feel the same way.
884
00:56:06,265 --> 00:56:10,285
You know, it's one of the things that's always attracted me to Callie's artwork
885
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and so many people, you know, helping support her at the booth this year.
886
00:56:16,225 --> 00:56:22,205
It's been great getting to see. Some people even cried when they were purchasing some of her art.
887
00:56:22,345 --> 00:56:27,485
So it definitely, you know, sparks more feelings and not just,
888
00:56:27,485 --> 00:56:29,985
Oh, hey, look at this mountain and this pretty river.
889
00:56:30,125 --> 00:56:34,505
And it looks like it's a painted version of a picture. It's much more.
890
00:56:34,665 --> 00:56:39,465
And so it's, yeah, it's always, it's great to see that up close and personal.
891
00:56:41,480 --> 00:56:44,820
That being said where can if
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00:56:44,820 --> 00:56:48,940
they haven't already listened to our past episodes where can our audience see
893
00:56:48,940 --> 00:56:54,840
your art up and close and personal you can find my artwork on social media at
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cali dunlap art or cali dunlap art uncle dad likes to say dot com that's my
895
00:57:02,240 --> 00:57:04,460
website all my My socials are Cali Dunlap Art.
896
00:57:04,940 --> 00:57:08,140
I think that's what's going on.
897
00:57:08,540 --> 00:57:14,940
Yeah. So I have one last thing to ask you. As we do, we love to ask favorite questions here.
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00:57:16,300 --> 00:57:23,440
So who is your favorite act at Cali Roots this year? It is your festival, so. Ice Cube, for sure.
899
00:57:25,120 --> 00:57:28,080
Absolutely, absolutely. It was a good day, you know?
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00:57:28,420 --> 00:57:32,280
Yeah. Yeah, yeah. we got to
901
00:57:32,280 --> 00:57:35,060
take a break and i got to take her to a date to see
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00:57:35,060 --> 00:57:37,940
ice cubes so oh i gotta insert all
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00:57:37,940 --> 00:57:41,060
the all the swooning sounds now callie thank you
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00:57:41,060 --> 00:57:43,800
so much for taking the time and every time you're part
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00:57:43,800 --> 00:57:46,600
of the show it's always something magical you always add a an
906
00:57:46,600 --> 00:57:49,780
element of fun to any show that we do and
907
00:57:49,780 --> 00:57:53,460
not only is it in part of our show but your art is also just a great representation
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00:57:53,460 --> 00:57:59,800
of you and thank you so much for being in being in mike's corner thank you uncle
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00:57:59,800 --> 00:58:07,600
dad thank you michael oh michael hey there wow that's the audience first right there.
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00:58:10,200 --> 00:58:15,040
All right everybody welcome to our final interview of the weekend uh let's give
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00:58:15,040 --> 00:58:19,300
it up mike actually say hello real quick hey hello hello that's right mike is
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00:58:19,300 --> 00:58:22,480
here and we're not Not alone, we're with another super stud,
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00:58:22,720 --> 00:58:26,220
a super, super duper stud, some would say,
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the highest of all studs.
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00:58:29,200 --> 00:58:34,080
Let's give it up for the co-founder of NBARC, Dustin Moore. How are you?
916
00:58:34,640 --> 00:58:37,420
I'm great, Uncle Dad. It's a pleasure to be here with you and Mike today.
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00:58:38,020 --> 00:58:41,400
It is a pleasure to have you here to talk about one of my favorite things in
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00:58:41,400 --> 00:58:43,060
the entire world, and that's cannabis.
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00:58:43,700 --> 00:58:46,420
But before we dive into that, can you give our audience just a quick little
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00:58:46,420 --> 00:58:49,520
overview of who you are, what you do, and all that good stuff?
921
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I've been a cannabis advocate since the ripe age of nine. My dad was a patient.
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Cannabis saved his life. And from that moment forward, normalizing cannabis
923
00:58:59,240 --> 00:59:01,920
responsibly has been my biggest charge.
924
00:59:02,080 --> 00:59:06,600
So I've worked on policy for the better part of a decade. I've been an operator for about a decade now.
925
00:59:06,700 --> 00:59:10,860
I spent a lot of time in the 2015 space, but I'm cannabis through and through.
926
00:59:11,320 --> 00:59:13,320
I love that. And what do you do for MBARC?
927
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So my wife, best friend, and I founded Embark in 2019.
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And honestly, everything from our first store, from building the shelves and
929
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cleaning the toilets, to running the registers, all the way up to all the expansion
930
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efforts, the festival work we do, and everything in between.
931
00:59:30,088 --> 00:59:33,848
That's amazing. And honestly, Embark hasn't slowed down, right?
932
00:59:33,928 --> 00:59:36,588
You guys are growing rapidly. Is that correct?
933
00:59:36,948 --> 00:59:40,808
Yeah, we opened our 14th and 15th stores in the same day just a couple weeks
934
00:59:40,808 --> 00:59:44,548
ago. We've got a half dozen festivals and fairs slated for the summer,
935
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and we're really trying to bring cannabis to the masses in a very responsible way.
936
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I love that. Mike, I know you're all about being responsible.
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So what are your thoughts on cannabis? Do you have any questions for Dustin?
938
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One that just came up, and it was because you mentioned you were an advocate
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for it, and it helped your father with, I guess, some kind of sickness.
940
01:00:07,188 --> 01:00:15,448
Greatness so my mom has ms and she developed really late in life and she loves me to bring her.
941
01:00:16,128 --> 01:00:19,508
Weed gummies because it helps but let's
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01:00:19,508 --> 01:00:22,548
just say her partner isn't always as supportive of because of
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01:00:22,548 --> 01:00:26,608
his own beliefs of what we does like how would you quickly break it down or
944
01:00:26,608 --> 01:00:31,148
explain to people like that they're there to actually help and it's not you
945
01:00:31,148 --> 01:00:35,168
know it's not a harmful thing at this point that's the 64 million dollar question
946
01:00:35,168 --> 01:00:39,528
that we face every day i think the The stigma of cannabis has persisted for hundreds of years.
947
01:00:39,768 --> 01:00:44,268
I think if you look back thousands of years, cannabis has been acceptable effectively
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up until the last century.
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And in the last century, cannabis really became criminalized as a way to ostracize the other.
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And it's racist policies to effectively separate society and to demonize some.
951
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I think you can look back to California. It was used to demonize the Mexican
952
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population. then you look at the jazz era and how it was used to really criminalize people of color.
953
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And unfortunately, you know, the media really took off in that direction.
954
01:01:10,188 --> 01:01:13,368
But I think what we've seen just even in the last decade or so,
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the progress of state by state legalization, now this federal push,
956
01:01:16,588 --> 01:01:19,968
you're starting to see, you know, studies coming out that cannabis has a larger
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01:01:19,968 --> 01:01:22,088
daily consumption rate than alcohol.
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01:01:22,408 --> 01:01:26,148
So unfortunately, there is no single answer. I think that, you know,
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01:01:26,148 --> 01:01:27,628
the proof is in the pudding as well.
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01:01:27,708 --> 01:01:31,268
I think if your mother is suffering and her partner says, says, Hey, I don't like this.
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I mean, the question is, is that stigma greater than your mother's enjoyment
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of life? And I think that's the question I would pose.
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01:01:36,730 --> 01:01:41,750
Thank you. All right. I'll send my $64 million over as soon as I get it in the account. Thank you.
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01:01:43,790 --> 01:01:46,290
You know, that's actually, I never really thought about it like that.
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01:01:46,290 --> 01:01:48,330
That's such a great way to look at that.
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01:01:48,490 --> 01:01:51,310
Now, I'm curious when you, in being in this industry, you know,
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what has for you been the biggest current challenge of being in this industry?
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01:01:55,730 --> 01:01:59,310
It's the stigma. I think we all fight it, whether it's a new bank that we're
969
01:01:59,310 --> 01:02:02,910
working with, it's a new landlord we're trying to lease leases space from,
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01:02:03,050 --> 01:02:06,410
you know, whether it's the scared, you know, the scared city council member
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who just says, Hey, this is going to, this is going to kill the kids.
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The hardest part for me is like, we have to promise somebody an outcome that's
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going to be favorable without proof of doing it.
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They, people have to just believe that what we're going to do is actually going
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to be beneficial and without, you know, understanding the history of how we
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01:02:23,150 --> 01:02:24,290
got here, it's just so hard to do.
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So I think it's just changing hearts and minds is my biggest challenge on a daily basis.
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Yeah. That does sound like that would be pretty difficult. Cause I imagine like,
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Like, especially for those kind of like, you know, what Mike was saying about
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his stepfather, you know, how do you get somebody to change their views when
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they've been raised or whatever way, right?
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01:02:39,230 --> 01:02:42,950
There really is no answer for that, right? Just you have to show them physical
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proof, I guess, right? Is that the only way to do so?
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That's what we found. I mean, physical proof, I'll give you an example.
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One of the first cities we opened in, we had a city council member that stood
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in front of us and, you know, voted against our permit.
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We ultimately prevailed, but she voted against our permit because the perceived
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proximity to a high school, even though we were over a thousand feet,
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she thought that this was going to corrupt the community.
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And now that same council member,
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after we got open, we partnered with the school in a very sensible way.
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You know, I've been funding, you know, drug afterschool, youth programs,
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drug education programs.
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She's now one of the people that calls into new cities that we go into and says, hey, I got it wrong.
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You've got to trust these folks. They know what they're doing and they'll deliver
996
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something that your community will be proud of.
997
01:03:23,920 --> 01:03:26,800
That's incredible. Mike, I know you said you had another question you wanted to ask him.
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01:03:27,360 --> 01:03:31,140
Well, I mean, that's awesome because I know sometimes in Sacramento,
999
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it can be on the line of conservative and also the other side.
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01:03:37,280 --> 01:03:42,860
But just real quick, you said you have 14 or 15 stores. Are they all in Sacramento
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or are they all over California?
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01:03:44,980 --> 01:03:48,920
We're all over California. People always ask, why aren't you national?
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01:03:49,080 --> 01:03:50,880
It's like, well, we're the fourth or fifth largest economy.
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01:03:51,140 --> 01:03:54,500
There's still 60% of the state that doesn't allow for cannabis.
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01:03:54,820 --> 01:03:58,300
So we're going to be here for a long time, having those tough conversations.
1006
01:03:59,580 --> 01:04:01,520
Slowly changing the conversation.
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01:04:02,040 --> 01:04:06,460
And what keeps you guys, I know it's a very competitive market.
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01:04:06,720 --> 01:04:10,780
There's tons of weed companies. What do you think separates y'all from everybody
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01:04:10,780 --> 01:04:13,180
else that makes you so successful?
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01:04:14,060 --> 01:04:17,500
We only carry the best that California has to offer. So for us,
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01:04:17,500 --> 01:04:19,820
We don't own any products. We're not vertically integrated.
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01:04:20,100 --> 01:04:23,340
You know, our customers and our guides, our guides are bud tenders.
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01:04:23,420 --> 01:04:26,380
You know, they spend their time researching the best products that California
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01:04:26,380 --> 01:04:27,800
has to offer. And that's what we put forward.
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01:04:27,940 --> 01:04:31,680
I think we have a differentiated experience because we don't charge slotting fees.
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01:04:32,460 --> 01:04:36,020
We simply just carry the best products. And we pair that with what we do in
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the live event space to create this ecosystem that creates a year-round experience
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for consumers, you know, that is different from what others in the market are offering.
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01:04:44,940 --> 01:04:48,400
You know, speaking of the live event space, we met you at Cali Roots,
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and that's what this is about, Cali Roots coverage.
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01:04:51,400 --> 01:04:55,280
And what was that like to get a part of Cali Roots? Was that something you've
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01:04:55,280 --> 01:04:56,980
done? That was the first time you guys have ever done that before.
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01:04:57,768 --> 01:04:59,928
That was the first time at Cali Roots. We've been working, you know,
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outside lands. This will be our fourth year of having, you know,
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done that live sales and consumption event in Golden Gate Park.
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We actually helped permit some of the very first licensed cannabis events in
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the world here in Sacramento.
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And it is a big, big part of our business. But like, you know,
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sitting in Monterey on Sunday night, you know, watching Revolution wrap up and
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01:05:18,908 --> 01:05:23,168
realizing that that was the same stage that Jimi Hendrix had burned his guitar.
1031
01:05:23,508 --> 01:05:26,848
And just like 100 yards away, we were legally selling cannabis.
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01:05:26,848 --> 01:05:29,328
It's like all of the folks that night that were watching Jimmy,
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01:05:29,448 --> 01:05:31,628
I know that they were consuming just as we were.
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01:05:31,928 --> 01:05:36,168
But I just had to think about, you know, could they imagine that,
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01:05:36,168 --> 01:05:37,628
you know, that that could legally happen?
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01:05:37,728 --> 01:05:41,148
So that was a pinch me moment where I felt like, you know, as we have these
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very small wins along the way that that like just set on me is like,
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01:05:45,488 --> 01:05:47,108
wow, this is a really big deal. This is a historic.
1039
01:05:47,308 --> 01:05:51,268
Wow. That's so I didn't. To be honest, I didn't know that that happened at that stage.
1040
01:05:51,928 --> 01:05:56,628
Did you know that, Mike? Monterey Pop Festival. Wow. No, I didn't know that. That's awesome.
1041
01:05:56,848 --> 01:05:59,488
No, I mean, there's been lots of great things on that stage,
1042
01:05:59,508 --> 01:06:01,188
I'm sure, right? I mean, Monterey.
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01:06:02,008 --> 01:06:06,048
Wow, that's amazing. So before we wrap up here, thank you for taking the time.
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I want to ask you some fun questions, if that's okay. We all like that.
1045
01:06:10,428 --> 01:06:16,408
You know, when we partake in cannabis, we all know about the great munchies, right?
1046
01:06:16,788 --> 01:06:22,068
What is your go-to weed snack after a nice, good burn?
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01:06:22,628 --> 01:06:25,428
As as a mayor as embarrassing as this
1048
01:06:25,428 --> 01:06:28,188
may sound and it's been true for a long time but like
1049
01:06:28,188 --> 01:06:31,088
uncrustables are like my kryptonite like if it was incredible
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01:06:31,088 --> 01:06:34,968
i'm gonna crush a box among i mean it's the most unhealthy route i mean i know
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01:06:34,968 --> 01:06:38,828
some people like oh i have an orange or an apple like no i'm all about the uncrustables
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01:06:38,828 --> 01:06:46,068
mike do you know what those are yes i know what they are i i do thank you he's
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01:06:46,068 --> 01:06:50,708
a healthy guy that's i gotta make sure you know but those are absolutely incredible oh Oh, my gosh.
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01:06:50,788 --> 01:06:56,008
And what is your top three stonier movies? Oh, my gosh.
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01:06:56,748 --> 01:07:00,308
Wow. That's that is a great question. I would say, you know,
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Friday is definitely up there. Anything in the Cheech and Chong genre.
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And I would say like more recent, probably cliche, but Pineapple Express is
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one that I get a good kick out of.
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01:07:14,450 --> 01:07:17,250
Okay okay what about super troopers you're
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01:07:17,250 --> 01:07:20,010
a fan of that movie oh my god yeah that that's so that would be
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01:07:20,010 --> 01:07:22,730
i i don't think i could limit it to three we could probably spend a half an hour
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01:07:22,730 --> 01:07:25,110
listening movies right now and those were just like kind of the ones that were
1063
01:07:25,110 --> 01:07:28,910
rattling around at the front and then what are your thoughts when being super
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01:07:28,910 --> 01:07:33,610
stoned and watching bruce willis movies it can be scary would you say it can
1065
01:07:33,610 --> 01:07:37,490
be scary depends you know like depends on no no it's it's it's definitely it
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01:07:37,490 --> 01:07:42,570
can be intense depending on what where you're watching if you've got a good home theater,
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you can definitely rock yourself.
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01:07:45,390 --> 01:07:47,670
Mike, what do you think would be your favorite Bruce Willis movie to watch?
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01:07:49,090 --> 01:07:51,950
Well, yeah, not one where he's crawling around in an air duct,
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01:07:52,130 --> 01:07:54,070
but maybe Cop Out, right?
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01:07:54,230 --> 01:07:57,670
Cop Out, you know, have some laugh. Maybe we'll...
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01:07:58,850 --> 01:08:01,230
Oh, take it easy.
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01:08:02,690 --> 01:08:05,950
Dustin, it's been such a fun time talking to you, really, and Mike,
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before we leave, do you have any last questions?
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Yeah, Dustin, what's your go-to I usually use weed for helping me sleep.
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01:08:13,190 --> 01:08:16,310
What's your go-to sleepy time weed product?
1077
01:08:16,930 --> 01:08:22,210
So I'm an edibles for sleep guy. And I think the three products that I use interchangeably,
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01:08:22,210 --> 01:08:24,990
you build up a tolerance to one, you can move to the other.
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But it's Space Gems, Wild, and then the Kiva Kaminos. Those three can be rotated
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01:08:30,510 --> 01:08:32,010
in and out and do a great job.
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01:08:32,190 --> 01:08:35,870
I'm an insomniac, and that definitely puts me to sleep every night.
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01:08:36,590 --> 01:08:41,870
All right, good. No, I do use the Kiva, so I'll try the other two. Thank you very much.
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01:08:42,250 --> 01:08:46,510
And a shout out to Space Gem. She's an ice water hash, small producer,
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01:08:46,730 --> 01:08:48,350
and some of the best edibles I've ever had.
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01:08:48,690 --> 01:08:53,070
Oh, okay. Awesome. And before we leave, where can our audience learn more about
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01:08:53,070 --> 01:08:55,510
your brand and connect with you and all that good stuff?
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01:08:56,090 --> 01:09:00,150
Go Embark and Embark Supply, our handles online, our website.
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01:09:00,430 --> 01:09:04,270
And we'd love folks to check us out. We're going to be everywhere in California.
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So, you know, we can't be more than a 30 minute drive from where you live if you live in California.
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01:09:08,490 --> 01:09:13,190
I love that. Go check them out. Go smoke some weed and do it responsibly and
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have a great time while doing it. We'll see you all later. Thank you.
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01:09:17,170 --> 01:09:20,850
Hey, everyone. Thanks for listening to this week's episode of Uncle Dad Talks.
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01:09:21,190 --> 01:09:24,870
I'm Uncle Dad and I'm usually joined by your favorite co-host,
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01:09:25,070 --> 01:09:27,510
Mike Hampton, or as we like to call him, Just Mike.
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01:09:27,930 --> 01:09:30,370
Just wanted to give a quick little shout out to our Instagram.
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01:09:30,370 --> 01:09:34,170
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That is one word, UncleDadTalks. And be sure to follow us for a lot of fun.
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We post reels, pics, a bunch of
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other great things there. We're doing more often, we're doing giveaways.
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So be a part of that. Be a part of our UncleDad family. We appreciate it.
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And as always, we appreciate you listening. And we appreciate you being a part of the show.
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And if you also want to kind of see what Mike is up to as well,
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be sure to follow him on Instagram at Mike Hampton Art alright everybody remember
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we're not uncles we're not dads we're just someone you can talk to and we'll see you all next week.
