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Episode 128: Talk w/ Grammy winning musician, Keith Frazier(Rebirth Brass Brand)

Episode 128: Talk w/ Grammy winning musician, Keith Frazier(Rebirth Brass Brand)

In this thrilling episode of UncleDad Talks, journey into the energetic world of music with the co-founding member of Grammy-winning Rebirth Brass Band, Keith Frazier. Get exclusive insights into the world of brass music and the band's extraordinary ...

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In this thrilling episode of UncleDad Talks, journey into the energetic world of music with the co-founding member of Grammy-winning Rebirth Brass Band, Keith Frazier. Get exclusive insights into the world of brass music and the band's extraordinary path to fame. This episode, sponsored by Skyline Smart Energy, is punctuated with rhythm, history, and exciting anecdotes about life on the road.

Step into the wonderful world of music with Keith Frazier, the legendary bass drummer, as he recounts memorable band interactions and significant band member changes. The conversation segues into the importance of artist independence and how the band navigated a changing industry amidst the COVID-19 pandemic.

Uncover fascinating stories about performing at the White House and endorsements from former President Obama. Delve into the creation of famous tracks and learn about the band's founder's heartfelt exit. Celebrate the magic of their spontaneous performances and their pride in featuring in the popular series 'Treme'. Finally, explore the vibrant culture of New Orleans and the constant party atmosphere around Mardi Gras and Jazz Fest.

This enlightening episode is guaranteed to captivate you, as it encapsulates the journey, challenges and indomitable spirit of Keith Frazier and the melodious Rebirth Brass Band.

Be sure to follow us on Instagram: @UncleDadTalks // @MikeHamptonArt

Chapters

00:00 - Saving on Energy Bills

01:08 - The Keys to Rebirth

01:56 - Celebrating NOLA with Keith Frazier

08:10 - The Start of Rebirth Brass Band

14:05 - Moving to Rabbit Hole

20:53 - The Legendary Tuesdays

23:23 - The Birth of ”Do What You Wanna”

25:29 - Overcoming Adversity: Phil’s Stroke

27:47 - Jazz Fest Energy

29:01 - The Art of Improvisation

30:35 - From Cradle to Grave

31:03 - Life After Katrina

32:37 - Fondness for Sacramento

34:11 - Embracing Imperfection

36:15 - The Unexpected Actor

38:30 - Unexpected Acting Debut

49:35 - The Excitement of Touring

50:51 - Praise from Flea

53:41 - Favorite Venue: Tipitina’s

54:40 - Seattle’s Bumbershoot Amphitheater

56:06 - Sports Allegiances and Super Bowl Hopes

Transcript
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All right, everybody. Welcome to this week's episode of Uncle Dad Talks.

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I'm Uncle Dad, and with me as always is the ever so handsome,

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the raging Cajun himself, Mike Hampton.

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The raging Cajun in the house, yes. Yes. Indeed.

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Mike, it's exciting because this is now your second week in a row where I'm

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giving you the keys and you're taking us for a ride. How do you feel about that?

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Do you feel like you graduated?

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I feel like my driving skills are getting better.

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I'm learning. I'm learning. I'm learning how to make turns and drive the speed limit.

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What do you think? Would you agree or would you not agree? I think you got to

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go a little faster. You know what I mean?

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Okay. You got to give the need for speed, you know, but today's guest is a very

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special one and I'll let you introduce them.

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But Mike, I know that we were kind of celebrating all things NOLA this month,

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so very excited to also have this guest on as well.

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Mike, without further ado, catch them keys because I'm giving them to you now.

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Go ahead and introduce our very lovely guest.

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Yeah, well, very excited for this guest.

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Yes, in celebration of Carnival and Mardi Gras this month in New Orleans and Louisiana,

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we have the bass drummer and one of the founding members of the Grammy Award

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winning and award show performing, as well as another Grammy nomination in 2019.

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Rebirth Brass Band co-founding member, Keith Frazier.

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Keith, welcome. Hey, thanks for having me. Appreciate it. Yeah.

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So who holds on to the Grammy award? Like, is that, you know,

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cause I hear a lot of times people win a Grammy, they, they,

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they downplay it and they say, oh, it's in the bathroom on top of the,

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on top of the toilet shelf.

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Who has the Grammy and where is this? Well, actually, so the way it goes,

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if you have less than nine members, I'm not sure if the rules are still the same.

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Everyone in the band will get a Grammy. And since we had eight band members,

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we all receive a trophy so everyone has their individual

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trophies i'm not certain where they put them at my trophy

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is actually sitting right here in my living room a lot

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of times when people come in the house they ask me is that real like yeah

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like what they don't want to take a picture with it and you know

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so i say hey pick it up take a picture you know and they

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want to find out well what do you do you know because i live

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in texas now so people here don't know who the hell i am who are you like just

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a regular guy man playing the band uh-huh yeah and then they see that and they're

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like wait a minute what kind of band exactly so you have to explain to them

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what new orleans is all about brass bands and that kind of stuff they're pretty receptive to it,

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okay interesting yeah i didn't realize you didn't live in

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uh in new orleans anymore so i'm gonna get to i'm

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gonna get to more of that later but you guys

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also um rebirth just celebrated celebrated 35 years

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recently right like a 35 year

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anniversary of a band so are you

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one is that one of the long that has to be one of the longest running

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brass bands in new orleans right actually the band has been around 40 years

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i started in the band when i was 14 or 55 now so and it went about it went really

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fast doesn't seem like 40 years at all and uh we try to celebrate as much as

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we possibly can every year

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when we reached that milestone.

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Like, hey, we've been around for... Because the average lifespan of a band is five years.

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So after five years, bands normally break up. So we've been here 40 years,

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so we're kind of blessed.

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Yeah. And the other bands are the ones that have been around just as long as

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longer, not necessarily with Brad's fans. Got the Nevels.

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Irma Thomas band, a lot of different bands that have been together for a very

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long time. Yeah. Preservation Hall. You know, different. Preservation Hall. Yeah. Yeah.

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So you started, what was it? If I'm, correct me if I'm wrong,

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in 1983 with your brother, Phil, right?

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Right. So in 1983, my brother, Phil Afraez, myself, Kermit Ruffins,

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and some other guys, we went high school just messing around and went out of

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the quarters to play for some tips. And here we are 40 years later.

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Were you guys like, yeah, Kermit Ruffin's legendary trumpet player,

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which is amazing that, you know, you guys were the nucleus of starting the band.

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Were you guys like in band class together? Like, how does it come to be?

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We were all in high school marching band together. And my brother Phillip was

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asked to put a group of guys together to go play at the Sheraton Hotel in downtown New Orleans.

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And at the time, I was still in junior high school. And they went down to play

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at the Sheraton. They said, hey, we can't let you guys play because they're serving alcohol.

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So my brother said, hey, man, I have a great idea.

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Let's go on Bourbon Street and play for tips this week. We're headed back home

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anyway. Let's make a couple of dollars. And everyone in the band kind of liked

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the idea of playing for tips.

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Kermit wasn't in the band at the time. And they said, hey, man,

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we could do this over the course of the summer. Instead of working some summer

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job, we could come out here and play for tips.

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And that's pretty much how that started. That was the start,

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huh? Just playing on Bourbon. Playing on Bourbon for tips, that's it.

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Yeah, with all the tourists. and I mean I'm sure bourbon was a whole was a whole

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different scene whole different whole different scene because at the time we

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started there were a lot of jazz clubs on bourbon like the Famous Door a couple other clubs,

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on bourbon I can't remember the exact names but they were they were probably

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five or six different jazz clubs with actual actual live bands playing in those

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clubs now bourbon is mostly daiquiri shops,

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beer you know beer holes there's no real it almost feels like.

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When I go to new Orleans and I, you know, I'll walk down bourbon,

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I don't go to bourbon, but I'll walk down there.

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And it almost feels like I'm in Tijuana now when I'm there, it just,

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you know, like to get the people blowing the whistles with the,

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with the drink and the little syringe and they're trying to shove it in your

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mouth and you know, yeah, just different scene.

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But so, so are you and your brother, are you, you and Phil, are you guys like best friends?

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Like you guys always hanging out back then at this point or was the

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band kind of what brought you guys close well because

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my brother philip was a couple years older than myself he was

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in high school i was in junior high school and when he actually put everything

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together i was just on the sideline kind of watching i thought those guys are

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crazy like you're gonna do what and i was actually like he said we're gonna

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play in the french quarter would you like to be the grand marshal there's a

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video actually i have a video of myself dancing in front of the band i'm all all dancing,

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having a good time. I'm collecting the tips, passing the hat.

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And it just so happened, the guy who was playing the bass drum that summer,

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he had to work one of those summer jobs.

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So they had to go play in this housing project in New Orleans to see,

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hey man, get the drum. I'm like, what? He said, you get the drum,

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you're going to play the bass drum. And here I am 40 years later.

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Yeah, yeah. Just threw you right in there. Just threw me in there.

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I tried playing the harmonica when I was a kid and my dad got me and it was

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just horrible. is horrible.

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I'm glad there's no video of me playing anything. It's all an instrument to play, though.

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Harmonica, yeah, it's all to do. We need to bring that back.

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That's how we'll start opening the show. I'll do a harmonica duo. Good idea. There you go.

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Did Rebirth need a harmonicist? Is that a harmonicist? We don't need a harmonica or harmonicist.

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Neither do we need a guitar player. young. Okay. Right.

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Man, man, I, uh, so I'm, so I'm reading about the band, you know,

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doing some research on you guys.

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And one of the things I love, you know, you mentioned Kermit was,

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was the different people that have come through the band.

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And one of them is what your former,

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Your former trombone, no, trombone player, Glenn, Glenn David Andrews, right?

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Am I saying that, his name right? Yeah. Right.

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Or no, was it, he is now, he's cousins with Glenn, who is now your trumpet player.

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Right. Glenn David Andrews and Clint, Glenn Hall are actually cousins.

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Got to keep track of all the Glenns. There are a lot of Glenns in New Orleans

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and a lot of family people who've come in and out of the band.

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So it's kind of hard to keep track.

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Apu Su and when they played it, all that kind of stuff.

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Yeah, it's hard for me to keep track, even with my notes. And they're also cousins,

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is this right, with Trombone Shorty, who also was in Rebirth at some point.

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Right, Trombone Shorty, he wasn't actually in the band, but one of the shows

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that he played at was this, my brother just hired him to play a show that's out of San Francisco.

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He was kind of discovered by the Rosebud agency because he was actually playing on stage with us.

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We needed somebody to play trombone he said hey man i'll call trombone shorty like

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you want to make a gig like yeah why not he came up with a gig

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yeah that's one of the beautiful things about

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about new orleans jazz right is that people can just kind of hop

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in and hop out and jam with you guys yeah exactly

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and then i read that your brother

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phil at one point was stepfather to soldier

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slim is that true too right my brother phil

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was step was was soldier slim

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stepfather yeah exactly rest in peace rest

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in peace soldier slim and uh i you

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know i know towards the the later part of his career he

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was signed with no limit and man i was such a no limit

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soldier when i was a teenager okay i

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like i would tear the the the source ads out

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of the source magazine and like pin them up on my walls and did you ever have

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any like connections with with master p being such like a big part of new orleans

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music like like i know it's a different genre we had a connection with him because

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Master P's family was living in a housing project called the Magnolia Housing Project.

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And they would get us to complete parties on the weekend. And we knew one of

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his brothers really well. One of his brothers who unfortunately was shot and killed.

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We knew him really well. He would hire us all the time to complete parties in the housing project.

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And we didn't know if Master P was his brother. He's like, yeah,

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you know, Percy Miller's my brother. We was like, what? He was like, yeah. Was that Kevin?

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No, Master P has a brother named Randall. I think he was a little older than

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Master P and he would hire us all the time,

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That's to play parties. Yeah. Kind of strange.

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That's cool. That's that's yeah. That's there's so many different connections

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with, with, with bands and family. And, and I, and I love that.

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Are you are so like, and you also had another guy in your band who I also love his stuff.

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And it's Shamar Allen who was, was he, and he was part of rebirth or was it kind of a similar thing?

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No, Shamar was in the band. He was actually in the band for like four or five years.

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He branched off and started doing his own solo thing

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and we've had a lot of different people come to the band

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in 40 years yeah i mean i

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would imagine that amount of time you would have a lot of

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different people right um yeah i

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i we we talked to eric who is now playing

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trumpet right with you guys and we had

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him on the show last week and i was

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hyping up how much i love to hit the sean on Peyton that

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Shamar did that song for the Saints so good

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so good yes yeah so are you are

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you like are you bummed out or does it when it

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when guys like that leave the band and they're successful are you like hey

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we want you here in Rebirth like we don't want you going out like we want you

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no not not at all I'm always advocating and promoting that guys you know do

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your own thing you know try try your hand at it for yourself if I could help

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you for your career I'll do as much as I possibly we can because it's a good

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look for the band like oh yeah i was one time i was playing a revert

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they're like what like yeah so it's not a bad thing i think it's actually a good thing,

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because he went on to play with um with the willie nelson band right right some more did it did a.

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Two-year thing with willie nelson that's some other people so that's cool you

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know a lot of guys have left our band they've done some really big things so,

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now they always tell me like yeah i was playing a reaver at one time like what i get it.

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So do you like you kind of being like, you know, one of the OGs of the band,

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do you help coach them like, like how to do things or do you just kind of let people figure it out?

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I kind of lead by example. But if they ask me, I'll tell them like,

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hey, listen, man, if you're trying to make a million dollars,

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you better try to make five, try to make five.

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Because it's going to take you four millions to make that one,

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to get down to that one million.

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I was telling them it's a lot of work. You know, I'm gonna make it look easy.

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Yeah, I was giving, you know, tidbits here and there, giving them advice.

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I'm like, look, don't drive in a car with me for three hours.

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Don't ask me any questions.

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You know because experience is our greatest teacher

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and i may actually know something that you don't know so

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and we'll just kick it around and they always come back

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and say hey man you know what what are you talking about like yeah that's what

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i was talking about okay no advice no advice like the advice from the guy who's

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actually been through it for 40 years all right so do you so you're in texas

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do you do you play with the band still much or are you just kind of more on

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the back and behind the scenes now?

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Playing with the band all the time. I'm not there every Tuesday night.

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You know, there's a new place that we're playing called Rabbit Hole because

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we're no longer playing at Maple Leaf. We played at Maple Leaf for almost 30 years.

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And after COVID kicked in, they decided that they wanted to do something different.

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We're like, okay, no problem.

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And so we just moved our business over to another location. But I'm not there every Tuesday.

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I might make one Tuesday out of a month, but when a band is on the road, I'm there. Mm-hmm.

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Yeah, there's a real... fun quote from Obama that, you know,

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he said at the end of his presidency when he was speaking in New Orleans that

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he may finally get to catch Rebirth at the Maple Leaf on a Tuesday. Yeah.

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What an honor that is. He's just going to have to come to the rabbit hole,

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you know, as he is. But yeah, I was honored for him to say that.

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When he said it, everyone was calling like, hey man, President Obama mentioned

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you guys' name. I'm like, well, he should.

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We're the Rebirth. Why Why wouldn't he? Yeah.

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But he never reached out to you? You never got to meet him or anything?

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Well, actually, we ended up playing at the White House. So we actually met him,

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him and his wife, Michelle.

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And I always tell the story, and people are like, what? I said,

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we met, meeting President Obama was great, but meeting Michelle Obama was better.

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Michelle Obama was so beautiful, she hurt your eyes. Yeah.

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She was so, not only was she beautiful, you know, outwardly,

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her personality, the way she is.

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She said, before I leave out the room, we're playing for the jazz thing that

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they do at the White House. She said, I'm going to shake everyone's hand. It was like, Ms.

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Sabama, we need deliciousness. And I'm not leaving until I shook everyone's

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hand. She shook everybody's hand. She had a brief conversation with her.

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She was so nice. It was unbelievable.

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Wow. That's cool. It's really amazing when you're in the presence of someone

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who has that kind of persona about them.

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Especially someone in such a place, you know.

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Such a high up. That high up. Yeah, yeah, for real. I was surprised they even

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invited us to that. Like, you want to invite Rebirth to the White House?

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Yeah. I'm like, wow. Oh, my goodness.

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So it was an honor for us to actually play the white house for

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sitting president like okay so that's one of the

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biggest things we've ever done in our career was played for president

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at the white house like how high can you

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get yeah that's i mean so are you nervous for a gig like that or is it just

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like are you just business as usual at this point for the most part it was business

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as usual until the president walked into the room we walked in the room you

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like whoa you know because you never think you'll meet a president the president

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of the united states like really Really?

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Yeah. And when they walked in, you try to make sure that you dot your I's and

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cross your T's and be correct.

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Yeah. Yeah. And do you guys get to do a tour of the White House and all that

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stuff while you're there?

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No, we didn't tour the White House, but we had a chance. The room that we were in, it's a funny story.

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I forget exactly what rock artist it was, but there's some food out for them, right?

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And we walk in there, we eat the food, and the guy comes and says,

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hey, don't worry about it, man. It's the White House. There's plenty more where

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they came from. Oh, yeah.

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I mean, all the big names in rock and roll, jazz, they were there. Elgin Rule.

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Anybody to think of was at that particular jazz function.

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I was like, Aretha Franklin was there. She performed right before we went on.

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I was like, wow, man, this is really a great honor right here.

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Yeah. Wow. I mean, you guys are part of that honor.

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I mean, you know, like, I mean, you know, for Obama to mention you,

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I mean, you know, already.

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And Tuesdays usually suck, right? Like, Tuesdays are usually,

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like, it's, you already went through Monday. Mondays suck. Wednesdays,

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not even. Then you go to Tuesday.

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Tuesdays is just whatever day. It's, like, not even Wednesday.

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It's not even hump day yet.

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So you guys made Tuesday, like, a day, right?

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We made Tuesday a day. And the way we got that particular gig at the Maple Leaf,

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one of our former manager's agent, he said, hey, man, the guy who was playing

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before us was not James Black, was another great New Orleans musician. He had passed away.

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They said they're looking for someone on Tuesday. So he said,

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would you guys consider doing a gig? I'm like, yeah, why not? So we went in there.

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And I mean, you could throw a brick in there and I'd hit anything.

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It was empty. We probably made $20, not $20 per person, $20.

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And so the fellow looked at me and said, hey, man, you know what?

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What I think we should do is let's just stay with it. We have nothing else to do on Tuesdays.

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And 30 years later, it was probably one of our biggest standing gigs in the

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city of New Orleans to just play Tuesday nights.

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Just a packed house every tuesday every tuesday okay and so yeah i guess you

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know covid changed a lot of things and so that's kind of what prompted you guys

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to end up going to rabbit hole,

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yeah so covid kind of changed that and the guy the new guy

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came in he wanted to he wanted to change the deal you know

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we understood everyone's losing money he's like we're losing money you're like

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well we can't lose money too we've been losing money too so he said i need a

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cheaper band that wasn't us so like well it's not us so we kind of moved on

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yeah and so the rabbit hole is that like a is that more of a newer establishment

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like do you know much about the history i don't,

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It's a newer establishment. The guy who runs the place, he's been working with

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brand spams around the city of New Orleans for years.

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He saw opportunity like, hey, man, I know you guys in Maple Leaf.

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Why don't you come over here?

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He made us a really good offer that nobody was making at the time because all

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venues was losing money.

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It was kind of a no brain. He's like, let's just see what happens.

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Try it for a year. After one year, it got better. And right now it's really picking up.

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I mean, the way it's set up, it's not just about re-brand on tools.

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There's like a marketplace where they sell clothing and different types of goods.

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Here's a DJ before we play.

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Here's an outside patio that's really nice. It's really cool.

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So I'm like, yeah, I think that's the way to go.

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And I've seen you guys a couple of times there, and it gets funky and swinging and rocking.

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Like it gets packed and it gets hot and sweaty. and yeah they have this huge

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outdoor area out back where you can go and just kind of,

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they'll have little nooks and spots where you can chill and it's a real fun

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real fun spot it's fun spot so it's something new and you know i'm always looking

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forward to playing it because it's just a new vibe and kind of gives you some

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creativity based on the newness of the place,

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yeah ain't no party like a rebirth party right is that

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is that kind of like a rebirth party is that you

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guys playing on Tuesdays is that at the Maple Leaf at a packed house is that

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kind of where the origin of that song comes from for you guys pretty much you

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know because those Tuesdays were legendary I mean a lot of things that happened

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outside of just playing we actually recorded an album at the Maple Leaf,

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All kinds of stuff happened from A to Z. Some things you can't talk about.

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Some things you can't talk about. You're like, wow, did that really happen? Like, yeah.

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It's just legendary. Man.

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What about the... Okay, so let me ask you now a couple other songs.

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One of my favorite songs that y'all play is AP Turo.

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AP Turo, yeah. What's the story behind that song?

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Well, actually, that wasn't one of our songs. We kind of borrowed that song

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from the Newbird Brass Band, and a band that my younger brother,

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Kerwin James, who's now deceased, they were playing a song. We heard it.

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And we always said, man, amateur's imitates but professional still.

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We heard it like, that's a great song.

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It was an actual song that my brother, Kerwin James, and Trommel Shorty worked together on.

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And he said, hey, man, we got this good song. We listened to it a couple of times.

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And after we listened to it a few times, we said, you know what?

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That's a really good song. Let's

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try that. And we kind of put our twist on it. And it kind of took off.

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And people would always say, man, it played me too rude. and people don't even

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know that hey that's not our song they're like what like no not at all.

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Yeah i didn't know i didn't even know speaking of songs

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and uncle dad had to school me on this one i didn't even realize casanova wasn't

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your son right that's another one people think casanova is our song and so i

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have to tell people listen no that's gerald overt and a group called overt you're

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like what i said we borrowed that and it just so happened we were playing this

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one spot on Thursday night,

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and the guys came up with these lyrics that are very provocative,

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and,

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we started playing it, and it kind of stuck.

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We played it so much, people were like, put that reverb cast in there,

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we're like, it's not our song.

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We don't want to take it. And we did it so well that the guys from LaVert,

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they was like, y'all did it so well, man.

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We just have to give y'all credit for doing a great job with it.

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I'm like, wow, cool. That's your song now.

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Exactly. Like, it's your song now. I'm like, okay.

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But yeah, it's a scary song. Right, Uncle Dad, you like that song, yeah.

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Yeah, so I'm a huge R&B guy, and I love Levert.

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Levert, in my opinion, was one of the greatest R&B bands ever. Yeah, definitely.

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And that song, when I had heard that song, because the first time I got to see

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you guys live was probably a couple of years ago with Mike, and that song came on.

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And in my mind, I'm like, whoa, this is awesome. This is a take on Levert.

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And he goes, what? What do you mean, Levert? I was like, yeah, this is Levert.

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That's Levert, yeah. definitely yeah yeah so well you guys that's that version

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in my opinion it's it's even though i love the original i mean who doesn't right

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but the your version is just a lot of fun you know it's kind of the epitome

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of new orleans yeah it's kind of fun take your drawers off have a good time.

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Yeah i i that happens there yeah exactly especially doing monogram a lot of

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drawers yeah what about uh speaking of that like so do what you wanna i feel

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like is kind of like a an adopted phrase of new orleans at this point right

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like how does that song come to be,

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well do what you want to kermit came up with this song a piece of song he's

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like hey man let's try this right here my brother philip chimed in with the

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bass line part and this guy by the name of reginald stewart they were playing

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at this family that we would always go over to the house and kind to practice.

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And he got into an argument.

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I was saxophone player at the time. So he came up with this horn part.

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And it kind of stuck. And as we continued to put it together,

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everything just kind of came together. It's like a gumbo.

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Everyone started throwing bits and pieces into the pot.

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10 years later, it was a full-blown song.

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And it just kind of took off. This guy, the radio guy, who was working at an R&B station,

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he would play it at the end of the night or the beginning

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of of the night and he would put the do what you want up

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against other r&b songs and hip-hop songs and we

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would win the contest every week he like this week it's gonna

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be uh reverse do what you want against the latest hip-hop song

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and we would win every week and it kind of blew up

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and people like man do what you want do what you want and it

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kind of kind of tipped in hip-hop clubs in new

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orleans and people just always request that

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song and just grew a life of his own

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yeah well that that riff that it starts off

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with like to me that's just it it's like the epitome of new orleans like that

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that sound you know yeah you know and and also that's kind of what you do when

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you're in new orleans is right what you want yeah do what you want and then

413
00:25:09,265 --> 00:25:13,885
i'm going to get more to this in a little bit but they even use that phrase

414
00:25:13,885 --> 00:25:15,525
in the in the show treme which.

415
00:25:17,173 --> 00:25:20,893
I love that show, and I know you guys were a part of it. But also,

416
00:25:21,733 --> 00:25:26,613
we've been talking about Phil, and I got to meet him at a show that you guys

417
00:25:26,613 --> 00:25:28,453
were doing in Oakland. Yeah.

418
00:25:29,353 --> 00:25:32,473
So he had a stroke and couldn't play with the band.

419
00:25:33,053 --> 00:25:38,313
So how difficult was that for you, being his brother, and you guys created this?

420
00:25:38,913 --> 00:25:42,533
It was extremely difficult. Because actually, Phil was kind of like the heart

421
00:25:42,533 --> 00:25:45,213
of the band. When people think of Rebirth, they think of my brother Phil.

422
00:25:45,673 --> 00:25:48,093
I would tell people, like, they're not thinking about me. They don't even see

423
00:25:48,093 --> 00:25:51,493
me half the time. So I'm like, what? Shorty's not here. F it,

424
00:25:51,573 --> 00:25:52,653
move on. Let's go, whatever.

425
00:25:53,653 --> 00:25:58,493
But he's actually on one of the Jazz Fest posters because he pretty much started the band.

426
00:25:59,213 --> 00:26:02,373
And he picked all the guys in the beginning who he wanted to be in the band.

427
00:26:03,013 --> 00:26:05,873
And when he had a stroke, he was like, man, what's going to happen?

428
00:26:05,953 --> 00:26:08,033
I'm like, I don't know. Are we going to carry on or what?

429
00:26:08,553 --> 00:26:11,793
He was like, hey, man, I'm not here. Just carry on. Do what you got to do.

430
00:26:11,793 --> 00:26:17,133
But you know he'll come out every now and then support the band,

431
00:26:17,773 --> 00:26:22,093
give us two cents on what's going on but he kind of stand on the side like no

432
00:26:22,093 --> 00:26:24,753
actually it's a different band it's a new day,

433
00:26:25,233 --> 00:26:27,953
I'm gonna stick with other guys there that was a

434
00:26:27,953 --> 00:26:30,893
big blow for us but we kind of carried on and there we

435
00:26:30,893 --> 00:26:33,813
are yeah and does he help like pick or

436
00:26:33,813 --> 00:26:36,773
find the next guy to play because he played the tuba

437
00:26:36,773 --> 00:26:40,013
he actually picks all the guys he picks

438
00:26:40,013 --> 00:26:42,893
them all you know yeah every i'll tell

439
00:26:42,893 --> 00:26:45,773
people like it's not me i'm like there's nothing wrong with his ear so he

440
00:26:45,773 --> 00:26:48,553
could hear like i think this guy would be a good guy to put in

441
00:26:48,553 --> 00:26:51,293
a band i'm like okay you think so and i just kind

442
00:26:51,293 --> 00:26:53,993
of stand on the side like that's the guy you want because the guy

443
00:26:53,993 --> 00:26:57,233
it is and so we just do it that way yeah i

444
00:26:57,233 --> 00:27:00,293
mean that's great that he still has such a you know a prominent role

445
00:27:00,293 --> 00:27:03,553
you know going through going through a stroke because some people right you

446
00:27:03,553 --> 00:27:06,053
know they go through a stroke and that's it like they're not they're not doing

447
00:27:06,053 --> 00:27:10,353
anything yeah you know he had the stroke then he had COVID and I'm like man

448
00:27:10,353 --> 00:27:14,193
you walking through this stuff like it ain't nothing you know if I have a stroke

449
00:27:14,193 --> 00:27:17,773
and I have COVID that's going to be it for me like I ain't doing nothing we're

450
00:27:17,773 --> 00:27:18,833
trying to get ourselves together.

451
00:27:19,766 --> 00:27:23,926
Yeah. Well, I mean, good, good for him that he's, he's, uh, he's still part

452
00:27:23,926 --> 00:27:26,366
of it, man. And, uh, yeah, I got to meet him. Super nice guy.

453
00:27:26,706 --> 00:27:33,126
And, uh, yeah. So, okay. So, so, so, you know, you mentioned jazz fest poster.

454
00:27:33,186 --> 00:27:34,566
So you guys play at jazz fest.

455
00:27:35,046 --> 00:27:38,546
You're kind of like regular mainstays there now, right? It's kind of like,

456
00:27:38,566 --> 00:27:40,526
you know, we play every year.

457
00:27:40,546 --> 00:27:45,446
This year we played April 28th at the Congo square stage, probably at three

458
00:27:45,446 --> 00:27:47,446
o'clock, three or four o'clock, something like that.

459
00:27:47,446 --> 00:27:50,366
So we play every year you know and you play

460
00:27:50,366 --> 00:27:53,126
in that when you guys play i'll be there for that yeah

461
00:27:53,126 --> 00:27:55,966
definitely and so what's that

462
00:27:55,966 --> 00:27:59,446
like you know you're playing you know jazz fest is one of the biggest music festivals

463
00:27:59,446 --> 00:28:02,506
in in the u.s you know and

464
00:28:02,506 --> 00:28:05,786
what's it like playing it on such a high level event with

465
00:28:05,786 --> 00:28:08,786
such you know such a crowd you know in in new

466
00:28:08,786 --> 00:28:12,026
orleans like what's that feeling like for you uh when we

467
00:28:12,026 --> 00:28:15,226
play jazz fest it's a lot of energy like you know

468
00:28:15,226 --> 00:28:17,986
when we're playing people already already know what it's about you know it's

469
00:28:17,986 --> 00:28:20,666
we play you dance you have a good time there's no

470
00:28:20,666 --> 00:28:23,886
pretense anything like that like we're trying to fool somebody or

471
00:28:23,886 --> 00:28:26,506
something like that like no man y'all already know what

472
00:28:26,506 --> 00:28:30,086
it's gonna be a for hour and a half or whatever the time frame is it's about

473
00:28:30,086 --> 00:28:34,586
having a good time everyone's partying and we might try some new songs but for

474
00:28:34,586 --> 00:28:38,106
the most part people come there like casting over feel like phoning it up do

475
00:28:38,106 --> 00:28:41,406
what you want yeah that's what they want to at some point we give it to them

476
00:28:41,406 --> 00:28:44,946
but it's a lot of fun hey what what's it like Like,

477
00:28:44,946 --> 00:28:47,526
you know, when you guys, I know a lot of, sometimes when you're on stage,

478
00:28:47,666 --> 00:28:50,566
there's just, there's a lot of, correct me if I'm wrong, right?

479
00:28:50,626 --> 00:28:53,386
Is there a lot of improv going on in between the gyms?

480
00:28:53,406 --> 00:28:57,546
Because you guys, pretty much once you start, you don't really stop until the

481
00:28:57,546 --> 00:29:00,246
end of the show. Like you just keep, like one song leads into the next.

482
00:29:01,146 --> 00:29:05,086
There's a lot of improv. A lot of times there's a lot of mistakes that we improvise on top of.

483
00:29:05,666 --> 00:29:10,066
There's no set. And that's what, it's easy, but it's also hard because when

484
00:29:10,066 --> 00:29:13,226
it's time to record, because we're improv-ing so much, we may have forgotten

485
00:29:13,226 --> 00:29:16,006
what we did a month ago. At that point, it's something brand new.

486
00:29:16,426 --> 00:29:21,146
And so people are like, can we capture that on CD? We don't really know.

487
00:29:21,626 --> 00:29:24,526
We're going to see what happens when we get in the studio. It all depends on

488
00:29:24,526 --> 00:29:27,226
what the spirit is like when you're in the recording studio.

489
00:29:27,466 --> 00:29:29,086
So there's a lot of improv all the time.

490
00:29:30,406 --> 00:29:35,566
There's no set part. The beauty of Rebirth is do what you want.

491
00:29:36,246 --> 00:29:39,006
It's always there when you're having a good time. Try to play the right notes,

492
00:29:39,046 --> 00:29:41,726
but for the most part, it's going to be improvised.

493
00:29:42,566 --> 00:29:47,546
It's fun to watch and Uncle Dad I don't know if you remember this but like sometimes

494
00:29:47,546 --> 00:29:52,186
you can if you pay attention to the to you guys actually playing you can see

495
00:29:52,186 --> 00:29:54,486
where someone might have messed up or someone's doing something,

496
00:29:55,451 --> 00:30:00,211
a little off and you guys are laughing at each other and you guys are having

497
00:30:00,211 --> 00:30:01,891
a, seem like you're having a blast up there.

498
00:30:02,511 --> 00:30:06,811
We're having a, we're having a party. It's a 90 minutes.

499
00:30:06,931 --> 00:30:09,351
I always say, man, if you're not having a good time, if people see that you're

500
00:30:09,351 --> 00:30:12,311
not having a good time, then I don't have a good time. So have a good time.

501
00:30:12,391 --> 00:30:13,651
There's no right way or wrong way.

502
00:30:13,771 --> 00:30:17,911
There's no music police that's going to arrest you at the end of the night. So have a good time.

503
00:30:18,591 --> 00:30:24,191
Yeah. We, uncle dad and I saw you guys, um, play it at tip to patinas.

504
00:30:24,471 --> 00:30:30,091
One time, And is that one of your favorite places to play? I would assume you love playing there.

505
00:30:30,691 --> 00:30:35,171
Tipitina's, Holland Wolf, House of Blues, almost any place that people will come and watch us.

506
00:30:35,511 --> 00:30:40,351
And if it's in somebody's bathroom, you know, I tell everybody,

507
00:30:40,491 --> 00:30:42,551
Rebirth is from the cradle to the grave and everything in between.

508
00:30:43,551 --> 00:30:47,431
If there's a room big enough for us to fit in, we're there. You'll do it.

509
00:30:47,491 --> 00:30:50,271
I want to go to that show, the bathroom show. Yeah.

510
00:30:52,131 --> 00:30:55,851
You've got to have great acoustics in the bathroom, right? Yeah.

511
00:30:55,991 --> 00:30:59,591
The smaller room is actually acoustics can get really good because everybody's

512
00:30:59,591 --> 00:31:02,231
so close to each other. You probably even have to mic it up.

513
00:31:02,251 --> 00:31:03,171
So it sounds really good.

514
00:31:03,651 --> 00:31:06,411
Yeah yeah so so you know those are all

515
00:31:06,411 --> 00:31:09,411
you know iconic new orleans venues you

516
00:31:09,411 --> 00:31:13,191
know especially for people from out of town so what what what

517
00:31:13,191 --> 00:31:16,651
made you you know i was always wondering like could you see yourself living

518
00:31:16,651 --> 00:31:20,291
in anywhere besides new orleans because you're you're like so much of what new

519
00:31:20,291 --> 00:31:24,431
orleans is and what what made you move to texas was it like a katrina thing

520
00:31:24,431 --> 00:31:25,851
where you moved away and just stayed

521
00:31:25,851 --> 00:31:29,851
or how that i ended up in texas after katrina you know i got here And,

522
00:31:29,851 --> 00:31:32,271
you know, at my age, I was like, you know what?

523
00:31:32,411 --> 00:31:34,051
I think I'm done with all the red tape

524
00:31:34,051 --> 00:31:37,071
and all the whatever's going on in Louisiana. It was just New Orleans.

525
00:31:37,231 --> 00:31:40,131
But, you know, Louisiana is backwards.

526
00:31:40,451 --> 00:31:42,711
You know, like, you know what? I can't take it anymore. I just need to get to

527
00:31:42,711 --> 00:31:43,991
the airport to make the gig.

528
00:31:44,291 --> 00:31:47,231
I still love it. But there's a lot of stuff that go on. You're like,

529
00:31:47,351 --> 00:31:50,051
man, if we could just fix this, if we could just fix the drainage system.

530
00:31:50,211 --> 00:31:51,291
How about the school system?

531
00:31:51,711 --> 00:31:53,791
And you look at it, you're like, I don't think it's ever going to get fixed.

532
00:31:53,951 --> 00:31:54,791
You have to make a decision.

533
00:31:54,911 --> 00:31:59,011
Like, okay, what should I do? At the time, my daughter was five years old when

534
00:31:59,011 --> 00:32:01,831
Katrina hit, and I had to decide, like, am I going to put her back in that system

535
00:32:01,831 --> 00:32:04,391
or let her stay here and be properly educated?

536
00:32:04,831 --> 00:32:08,011
And I chose to stay here and let her be properly educated. I just need to get

537
00:32:08,011 --> 00:32:09,531
to airporting. Here I am.

538
00:32:10,251 --> 00:32:13,151
Yeah. I mean, and your neighbors. It's not like you moved to far away.

539
00:32:13,571 --> 00:32:15,771
You're still really close. You're not in Sacramento. I can drive.

540
00:32:16,351 --> 00:32:17,711
No, I'm not in Sacramento.

541
00:32:19,571 --> 00:32:23,591
No. The greatest thing is my wife is, though. Yeah.

542
00:32:25,691 --> 00:32:29,691
Yeah, so you can go there and catch a King's Pels game, right?

543
00:32:30,011 --> 00:32:34,131
Right, go catch a King's Pels game, or I could just go hang out by my mother-in-law

544
00:32:34,131 --> 00:32:36,831
or something like that. But yeah, I'm not a Sacramento.

545
00:32:37,531 --> 00:32:40,451
But you know what? I like Sacramento, though. There's something about it that

546
00:32:40,451 --> 00:32:41,631
I like. I don't know what it is.

547
00:32:42,531 --> 00:32:47,191
Yeah, me neither. Yeah, I lived there for many years, and I don't know what

548
00:32:47,191 --> 00:32:49,171
it is either. But there's something I like about it.

549
00:32:49,861 --> 00:32:55,081
Yeah, I'll go anytime if I get a chance to. Yeah, I mean, you can find something

550
00:32:55,081 --> 00:33:00,201
good about most places, right? Most places, yeah. You can find something good.

551
00:33:00,981 --> 00:33:02,781
Have you guys ever played in Stockton, California?

552
00:33:03,841 --> 00:33:09,181
We've never played in Stockton, California. I'm always wondering, what's in Stockton?

553
00:33:09,881 --> 00:33:13,601
I'm like, what's in Stockton? Uncle Dan will tell you. That's right.

554
00:33:13,681 --> 00:33:15,201
That's my neighborhood. Let me tell you.

555
00:33:15,901 --> 00:33:19,281
You're from Stockton. Yeah, yeah. I'll just tell you, man.

556
00:33:19,281 --> 00:33:23,621
It's a different beast out there well i

557
00:33:23,621 --> 00:33:26,381
plan to you know hopefully get down there one day check it

558
00:33:26,381 --> 00:33:29,381
out i'll pass through then as i pass through i'm like man

559
00:33:29,381 --> 00:33:36,941
what the hell is going on hey i ask myself that all the time i mean is there

560
00:33:36,941 --> 00:33:40,881
a major venue that people go to like it's been you right here i mean there's

561
00:33:40,881 --> 00:33:44,721
the stockton arena but like if you wanted to say like a like a legend oh i guess

562
00:33:44,721 --> 00:33:48,181
the bob hope theater yeah i would say that okay yeah okay Okay,

563
00:33:48,181 --> 00:33:49,081
that's a legendary theater,

564
00:33:49,201 --> 00:33:52,141
I would say, that's been around since, you know. Is Bob Hope from Stockton?

565
00:33:52,681 --> 00:33:56,181
No. I don't even know why he's from Stockton. Unless you know why,

566
00:33:56,201 --> 00:33:59,701
Mike. I think he took a shit there once. What? I guess you got that idea.

567
00:34:00,641 --> 00:34:04,881
That would do it, huh? That's all you need in Stockton to get something named after you.

568
00:34:06,281 --> 00:34:10,261
Keith, you got to come do that, and then what will happen is we'll get you a Keith Frazier theater.

569
00:34:11,681 --> 00:34:15,881
Is there like a festival in Stockton that they do like music-wise or.

570
00:34:18,361 --> 00:34:23,301
There's the asparagus they moved it though they moved the asparagus festival out of there,

571
00:34:24,521 --> 00:34:30,021
the asparagus festival not anymore they had an asparagus festival that was their

572
00:34:30,021 --> 00:34:34,641
one thing and I went one time and it was terrifying and Stockton's terrifying,

573
00:34:35,461 --> 00:34:36,241
Stockton's terrifying?

574
00:34:36,501 --> 00:34:38,761
What do you mean? Do you mean in terms of crime or what?

575
00:34:39,141 --> 00:34:46,261
I would say crime people say that like it can't be worse than New Orleans We're the capital of crime.

576
00:34:47,041 --> 00:34:51,281
Sometimes, man. Sometimes it can be pretty bad. It can be worse than New Orleans? I would say so.

577
00:34:51,781 --> 00:34:54,741
I think the only reason it's not worse than New Orleans is because there's less

578
00:34:54,741 --> 00:34:58,201
criminals to do crime in Stockton because it's a smaller city.

579
00:34:59,241 --> 00:35:03,281
Okay. Well, I'm going to have to, because, you know, I like to travel.

580
00:35:03,361 --> 00:35:04,361
I'm always curious about places.

581
00:35:04,681 --> 00:35:08,781
I'm going to have to stop through just to check it out. What's going on here?

582
00:35:09,541 --> 00:35:13,481
They do have a big Comic-Con that I do there. I sell stuff out there.

583
00:35:14,161 --> 00:35:19,321
Twice a year and they get a good turnout, but I hear from at least one or two

584
00:35:19,321 --> 00:35:22,781
vendors or artists or guests that get their car broken into.

585
00:35:23,790 --> 00:35:29,550
Overnight while they're staying there. Yeah. Okay. So cheers to Stockton.

586
00:35:30,330 --> 00:35:35,490
Well, hold on. If you go to Stockton one day, you've got to do me a favor. You've got to go down.

587
00:35:35,890 --> 00:35:39,490
If you like Mexican food, and who doesn't, you've got to go to Arroyo's.

588
00:35:40,770 --> 00:35:45,110
Arroyo's. It's a really good Mexican restaurant. That place has been there since

589
00:35:45,110 --> 00:35:48,830
my dad was a child, and I've been going there since my, you know,

590
00:35:48,910 --> 00:35:51,050
since I was a kid, since he was a kid.

591
00:35:51,750 --> 00:35:54,950
It's a family thing. You should go there. is probably one of the most legacy

592
00:35:54,950 --> 00:35:59,070
restaurants you're going to find in Stockton. If you ever go.

593
00:35:59,990 --> 00:36:05,150
I plan to go. I plan to go. Next trip to Stockton.

594
00:36:05,650 --> 00:36:13,830
Next trip to Stockton. Yeah, do a drive to Stockton and experience the life there. Okay. Yeah.

595
00:36:15,770 --> 00:36:20,690
So, okay. I want to talk a little bit about the show I mentioned earlier,

596
00:36:20,870 --> 00:36:23,950
Treme, which you guys are are

597
00:36:23,950 --> 00:36:26,690
part of that you know so like i know you

598
00:36:26,690 --> 00:36:29,610
guys appear in some shows i know they talk to

599
00:36:29,610 --> 00:36:32,750
you guys about like consulting the musicians or

600
00:36:32,750 --> 00:36:36,470
the people that were playing the musicians in the show like also got to be an

601
00:36:36,470 --> 00:36:41,330
honor right yeah so so what what was that like they were like we want this to

602
00:36:41,330 --> 00:36:45,790
be as authentic as possible we want rebirth to be a part of it somehow so they

603
00:36:45,790 --> 00:36:50,050
reach out to you actually when he when he started putting the show together

604
00:36:50,050 --> 00:36:51,430
he had to create the poly.

605
00:36:51,950 --> 00:36:54,190
So they told us, hey, we want you guys to be a part of the poly.

606
00:36:54,810 --> 00:36:58,890
Like, okay. So we're thinking that means play a couple of tunes for the show

607
00:36:58,890 --> 00:37:01,070
while the show is coming on or something like that.

608
00:37:01,210 --> 00:37:04,030
We didn't know what they were talking about. So we get there,

609
00:37:04,050 --> 00:37:06,590
the guy said, no, we want you guys to be a part of the show.

610
00:37:06,830 --> 00:37:09,970
We was like, what you mean? He wants to play in the scene or something?

611
00:37:10,090 --> 00:37:11,650
He said, no, we want you to read parts.

612
00:37:12,655 --> 00:37:15,275
Now, we have never done any acting. The only acting we've done is trying to

613
00:37:15,275 --> 00:37:16,475
be musicians, to act like musicians.

614
00:37:18,015 --> 00:37:21,815
So they give us the lines, right? And I never knew how hard acting was until

615
00:37:21,815 --> 00:37:23,295
I actually got to read lines.

616
00:37:23,655 --> 00:37:26,255
Because not only do you have to know your lines, you have to know the person

617
00:37:26,255 --> 00:37:28,675
that you're talking to lines as well, so you can know when to come in.

618
00:37:29,175 --> 00:37:31,255
So I'm studying the lines, and this lady we're working with,

619
00:37:31,295 --> 00:37:33,295
she said, look, relax, just like music.

620
00:37:33,655 --> 00:37:35,755
Like you're a drummer, you have to know all the parts in a band.

621
00:37:35,915 --> 00:37:38,315
Now you have to know all the lines that everyone is saying.

622
00:37:39,135 --> 00:37:42,155
And it's just so happened they picked me. I'm like, they're not going to pick me?

623
00:37:42,155 --> 00:37:45,555
Like we want you to read i'm like oh my goodness so

624
00:37:45,555 --> 00:37:48,275
at that point i'm nervous i'm shaking like can i do

625
00:37:48,275 --> 00:37:52,055
this you say you can tell you can do it i know you got it in she gave me the

626
00:37:52,055 --> 00:37:56,035
lines i memorized my lines i memorized the guidelines that i'm talking to and

627
00:37:56,035 --> 00:38:00,615
they say one two three go so at that point she's saying well it's just a pilot

628
00:38:00,615 --> 00:38:04,715
no one will see it i'm okay if no one's gonna see me do this make a fool of

629
00:38:04,715 --> 00:38:07,815
myself so i'm not worried no one's gonna see this the day,

630
00:38:08,295 --> 00:38:14,295
Tremé comes on, I'm in the very first scene, the first words, that's me.

631
00:38:14,815 --> 00:38:18,375
My phone is blowing up. I'm like a movie star. I can't believe it.

632
00:38:18,575 --> 00:38:21,215
The first scene of the first episode?

633
00:38:21,755 --> 00:38:26,035
First scene of the first episode, I'm reading. I'm acting. Oh,

634
00:38:26,055 --> 00:38:27,075
we got to play a clip of that.

635
00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:45,200
Music.

636
00:38:30,155 --> 00:38:34,895
What's up, bro? What's up? Look at the fuck show up. What's up?

637
00:38:35,475 --> 00:38:38,055
When was the last time you saw this motherfucker play a second line?

638
00:38:38,335 --> 00:38:40,095
First thing that goes, those legs, old man.

639
00:38:40,775 --> 00:38:44,075
He stole that from Tyrus. Man, Tyrus used to play that riff with that.

640
00:38:44,595 --> 00:38:48,415
Hey, girl, if you're referring to Mr. Chapman, the fact is he appropriated that

641
00:38:48,415 --> 00:38:51,295
particular musical ornamentation for my repertoire, bro. I can't breathe at all.

642
00:38:52,080 --> 00:39:44,400
Music.

643
00:39:45,224 --> 00:39:48,984
I was like, wow. She said, I didn't want to tell you what's going to be in the

644
00:39:48,984 --> 00:39:51,684
part of the show because it would have made you nervous. She said,

645
00:39:51,704 --> 00:39:52,624
you did a really good job.

646
00:39:53,144 --> 00:39:56,164
I could have been better. She said, you were great. You're not acting. You were great.

647
00:39:56,724 --> 00:39:59,204
So people saw it and they were calling me like, hey, man, you know you're on

648
00:39:59,204 --> 00:40:03,524
TV? I'm like, TV? What you mean? We playing somewhere? Like, no, you're in a movie.

649
00:40:04,284 --> 00:40:08,524
I couldn't believe it. And from that point on, I was like a movie star.

650
00:40:10,184 --> 00:40:16,384
I'm like, wow. Wow. Actor slash musician. Actor slash musician, yeah. Yes.

651
00:40:16,664 --> 00:40:19,824
And the funny thing is I have a sister. She's into theater and acting.

652
00:40:20,224 --> 00:40:25,124
She said, you mean to tell me you got a SAG card before me? I'm like, I'm an actor. Yeah.

653
00:40:26,924 --> 00:40:32,304
Did you get craft services while you were acting? Did they have craft services there for you?

654
00:40:33,324 --> 00:40:37,224
Yeah, they did. Yeah. Okay. And it was good. It's good, yeah.

655
00:40:37,224 --> 00:40:40,204
I was surprised by the whole experience.

656
00:40:41,224 --> 00:40:45,484
I did two or three different scenes reading and I was like, wow.

657
00:40:45,624 --> 00:40:50,204
Once you get used to it, it's a lot of fun because you can cut and go back and fix anything you want.

658
00:40:50,604 --> 00:40:53,904
If you forget something, they'll just splice it together. You can't even tell.

659
00:40:54,084 --> 00:40:58,484
Wow, you did a really good job. You're a professional in Hollywood. Yeah.

660
00:40:59,384 --> 00:41:04,024
What you're saying is you'll be appearing in another movie again soon so we

661
00:41:04,024 --> 00:41:08,144
can keep a watch for you. I had that feeling I'm going to be in another movie.

662
00:41:08,324 --> 00:41:10,264
I don't know if my wife is going to go for that. I'm like, a movie?

663
00:41:10,424 --> 00:41:11,324
I don't know about that, buddy.

664
00:41:11,964 --> 00:41:14,244
So, yeah. They might call me anytime.

665
00:41:15,024 --> 00:41:18,944
I always tell somebody when they do the biopic of Rebirth, I want Lorenz Tate

666
00:41:18,944 --> 00:41:22,084
to play my part. My sister's always laughing at that. Like, man, get out of here.

667
00:41:23,044 --> 00:41:26,184
Well, yeah. We haven't seen Lorenz Tate in something for a long time,

668
00:41:26,284 --> 00:41:30,064
right? Right. That would be a good movie. Like, the Rebirth movie? I mean...

669
00:41:31,146 --> 00:41:34,286
The characters and whatever will be changed to protect the industry.

670
00:41:35,866 --> 00:41:41,966
Yes. We're going to put a link to your IMDb in the show notes to this so people

671
00:41:41,966 --> 00:41:45,026
can follow you there. I think we should get Tyrese to play you.

672
00:41:45,886 --> 00:41:51,266
Tyrese? Yeah, you know what? Yeah, you know what? Yeah. I see some resemblance there. Tyrese, man.

673
00:41:51,646 --> 00:41:54,266
Yeah. I think he would do a good job.

674
00:41:54,946 --> 00:41:58,146
He's still acting. Yeah, he's still acting.

675
00:41:58,686 --> 00:42:02,226
Yeah yeah wow that's so funny yeah that's yeah

676
00:42:02,226 --> 00:42:05,486
and there was a huge there's a huge scene in uh i think

677
00:42:05,486 --> 00:42:09,326
it was season three right where they they

678
00:42:09,326 --> 00:42:13,946
reenact when some of you guys in the band got arrested for for playing a second

679
00:42:13,946 --> 00:42:17,966
line for someone who passed away and that's actually the person who passed that's

680
00:42:17,966 --> 00:42:21,806
that's my brother kerwin james that passed away and so when someone like a musician

681
00:42:21,806 --> 00:42:26,066
passed away we kind of parade around the neighborhood to pay you know tribute to that person.

682
00:42:26,446 --> 00:42:28,806
And Derek Tabb was the snare drum in our band at the time.

683
00:42:29,226 --> 00:42:34,386
As we were marching up to finish off the march, the police roll up and they arrest him.

684
00:42:34,486 --> 00:42:37,366
He was like, sure, they're going to arrest me. I'm like, you're getting arrested?

685
00:42:38,026 --> 00:42:40,766
You got arrested. That was the actual real story.

686
00:42:41,486 --> 00:42:43,446
He was like, man, I can't believe they arrested me. I'm like,

687
00:42:43,526 --> 00:42:46,626
I can't believe they arrested you either. And so they kind of put that in for me.

688
00:42:47,606 --> 00:42:49,886
And we was like, wow, they're going to put this in there? You know,

689
00:42:49,906 --> 00:42:53,546
they had to get the okay from my mom and everything, but it was a true story.

690
00:42:53,686 --> 00:42:58,506
They really arrested him for playing for your brother like yeah yeah it's just

691
00:42:58,506 --> 00:43:02,166
another reason why maybe you know hey i don't need to move back there you know

692
00:43:02,166 --> 00:43:05,086
there's just exactly you know there's a lot of stuff that happens and.

693
00:43:06,586 --> 00:43:10,306
There's a lot of amazing things about new orleans obviously but you know i don't

694
00:43:10,306 --> 00:43:15,426
think it's a secret to anyone that the nopd is not as straight edge up and up

695
00:43:15,426 --> 00:43:17,466
yeah not at all right yeah,

696
00:43:18,606 --> 00:43:22,926
are you familiar or have you heard of this book i've been reading it i've had

697
00:43:22,926 --> 00:43:26,266
it for years and and I've just started reading Unfathomable City.

698
00:43:26,926 --> 00:43:31,166
It's like an Atlas book. It's a book of, they make these maps and atlases.

699
00:43:32,785 --> 00:43:35,685
Of New Orleans, but there's also lots of history in it. And you guys are,

700
00:43:35,765 --> 00:43:37,885
Rebirth's mentioned in it a couple of times.

701
00:43:38,565 --> 00:43:42,085
Never heard of it. And we're mentioning it. I'm hoping a good one. Oh yeah.

702
00:43:42,165 --> 00:43:46,285
So, so one of the times they say, it's just like a casual throw in a,

703
00:43:46,305 --> 00:43:52,705
in a paragraph about how with Rebirth, the original band members move on and

704
00:43:52,705 --> 00:43:57,005
new ones come in, but, but the, but the spirit plays on a Rebirth indeed,

705
00:43:57,705 --> 00:44:00,505
which I thought was a really nice way of, of, of putting that.

706
00:44:00,505 --> 00:44:03,445
But then they also said we all remember what rebirth

707
00:44:03,445 --> 00:44:06,245
did on tuesday nights they don't say the maple leaf they

708
00:44:06,245 --> 00:44:09,845
just say we all remember what rebirth did on tuesday nights yeah i'll

709
00:44:09,845 --> 00:44:15,885
send you a something so you can see the book would it okay yeah but it's just

710
00:44:15,885 --> 00:44:20,325
a nice shout out and so the reason i'm mentioning this also the tuesday night

711
00:44:20,325 --> 00:44:24,625
thing you guys play on tuesday nights which which is also Mardi Gras,

712
00:44:24,705 --> 00:44:26,305
which is right around the corner.

713
00:44:26,765 --> 00:44:33,265
And so is Mardi Gras being on Tuesday, Fat Tuesday, a big deal for you guys?

714
00:44:33,325 --> 00:44:35,525
Or is it just like another day?

715
00:44:36,465 --> 00:44:40,245
For us, it's a big deal in that when people come to see us on Tuesday night,

716
00:44:40,305 --> 00:44:43,565
we tell people, listen, Mardi Gras may be over, but the party continues.

717
00:44:44,205 --> 00:44:46,865
They're like, what you mean? Like, that's just one part of it.

718
00:44:47,385 --> 00:44:50,785
And we bring them right into Jazz Fest from that point.

719
00:44:50,785 --> 00:44:53,765
Like now it's time for jazz fest get ready i'm like

720
00:44:53,765 --> 00:44:56,825
what like and you might go home like oh mardi gras is over but

721
00:44:56,825 --> 00:45:00,385
not for us every day is mardi gras in new orleans and no matter where you if

722
00:45:00,385 --> 00:45:03,825
you're from new orleans you take your mardi gras with you wherever you at every

723
00:45:03,825 --> 00:45:08,125
tuesday is mardi gras yeah yeah you know in new orleans we drank every day you

724
00:45:08,125 --> 00:45:11,965
know i'm gonna drink on on a weekend no we drank every day we party every day

725
00:45:11,965 --> 00:45:14,725
you just take it that happens that happens Yeah.

726
00:45:16,545 --> 00:45:21,925
So we, Uncle Dad and I, there's a comic convention in New Orleans every,

727
00:45:21,985 --> 00:45:24,145
that first weekend of January called Fan Expo.

728
00:45:24,565 --> 00:45:29,145
And we go there for the convention and cover it for the podcast. Yeah.

729
00:45:30,237 --> 00:45:36,297
It is the most fun and also the most difficult because we're in New Orleans, right?

730
00:45:36,497 --> 00:45:39,897
Yeah, exactly. You have to really have a lot of discipline.

731
00:45:40,497 --> 00:45:44,217
It's hard. There's a lot of partying going on. People don't stop partying.

732
00:45:44,737 --> 00:45:48,897
But you know, like you said, it's a lifestyle of New Orleans.

733
00:45:49,017 --> 00:45:53,557
Like one season just rolls to the next season, you know, into the next, into the next.

734
00:45:53,717 --> 00:45:56,857
And, you know, I don't have to tell you. I mean, I think that's part of why

735
00:45:56,857 --> 00:46:00,477
jazz from New Orleans sounds the way it sounds, right?

736
00:46:00,537 --> 00:46:03,097
Different than anywhere else. Anywhere else, yeah.

737
00:46:03,717 --> 00:46:09,137
You know, it's so loose and fun and it swings. And, you know, I see bands.

738
00:46:09,737 --> 00:46:13,777
I saw this band. I think they're called Lowdown Brass Band. They're from Chicago.

739
00:46:14,057 --> 00:46:18,117
I saw them in San Francisco and they covered one of your guys' songs.

740
00:46:18,377 --> 00:46:19,257
And I talked to them afterwards.

741
00:46:19,617 --> 00:46:25,197
But it was interesting to see someone play a Rebirth song so syncopated and tight.

742
00:46:25,677 --> 00:46:29,657
Where you guys play is so loose and wild and fun. Just, you know,

743
00:46:29,657 --> 00:46:31,297
it's a reflection of where you're from. Right.

744
00:46:31,817 --> 00:46:36,537
That's it. I mean, New Orleans is very loose and wild. There's nothing tight about it.

745
00:46:37,197 --> 00:46:41,117
So you grew up that way. You like everything that's wrong is actually right.

746
00:46:41,897 --> 00:46:46,277
So the lines are blurred. You like people doing stuff wrong and they know it's

747
00:46:46,277 --> 00:46:49,357
wrong. They do it anyway. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

748
00:46:50,330 --> 00:46:53,970
So will you be playing at the rabbit hole on a Mardi Gras night?

749
00:46:54,390 --> 00:46:56,910
I don't think I'll be there this Mardi Gras night. Cause I'm actually in the

750
00:46:56,910 --> 00:47:01,170
process of, we have a big tour coming up, uh, starting on the 17th of February.

751
00:47:01,930 --> 00:47:03,790
So I'm trying to get ready for that. And we got to go to Austin,

752
00:47:03,870 --> 00:47:08,750
Texas, February 10th. And so I'm like, okay, I'll let the other guys take care of that.

753
00:47:08,950 --> 00:47:11,170
I'm not a big Mardi Gras person. I actually, I'm like, okay,

754
00:47:11,830 --> 00:47:14,330
after you do it so many times, you're like, okay, one more Mardi Gras.

755
00:47:14,790 --> 00:47:19,850
My wife hasn't seen it. I want her to see it. But for me, it's just another party.

756
00:47:19,850 --> 00:47:22,670
Party like it's not a party yeah there's lots of parties

757
00:47:22,670 --> 00:47:25,870
yeah you know when we had we had uh we talked to vincent he kind

758
00:47:25,870 --> 00:47:29,130
of hung out with us when we were there for fan expo and we

759
00:47:29,130 --> 00:47:31,910
did a little segment with him and he said the same thing as

760
00:47:31,910 --> 00:47:34,930
you he's like i've seen enough parades i

761
00:47:34,930 --> 00:47:37,730
don't care about a parade anymore and you know

762
00:47:37,730 --> 00:47:40,410
it's just whatever for me but then we talked to

763
00:47:40,410 --> 00:47:43,470
eric eric gordon and he's so into

764
00:47:43,470 --> 00:47:47,150
it right and he does the mardi gras indian thing exactly and we

765
00:47:47,150 --> 00:47:50,710
went into a lot of conversation with him about that and and so

766
00:47:50,710 --> 00:47:53,590
it's just interesting to see you guys all have different perspectives on it

767
00:47:53,590 --> 00:47:56,550
you know for me i grew up

768
00:47:56,550 --> 00:48:00,570
in uh mostly in lafayette and you know there's a there's a different kind of

769
00:48:00,570 --> 00:48:04,490
mardi gras there but it's still mardi gras you know right and so i love coming

770
00:48:04,490 --> 00:48:10,330
back and experiencing it it's so nostalgic and it's fun you know it's a lot

771
00:48:10,330 --> 00:48:14,290
it can be a lot of fun you know and i always tell people like you know my perspective

772
00:48:14,290 --> 00:48:15,950
is different because I grew up in it, but.

773
00:48:16,830 --> 00:48:20,190
The first time you see it, people are just blown like, wow.

774
00:48:20,470 --> 00:48:23,510
You know, just do what you want. Anything goes.

775
00:48:24,110 --> 00:48:27,650
It's a lot of neckiness, a lot of drinking as long as you can laugh.

776
00:48:28,150 --> 00:48:30,990
People are like, what? I drank all day? Until you pass out.

777
00:48:31,710 --> 00:48:37,530
Yeah. It goes all night. There's no stopping. The party doesn't stop. It doesn't stop.

778
00:48:38,550 --> 00:48:41,610
There's no 2 o'clock cutoff. It's like 2 o'clock. People are just getting started.

779
00:48:42,030 --> 00:48:44,590
They're just getting revved up. By 4 o'clock in the morning,

780
00:48:45,490 --> 00:48:50,430
And then there's the Bourbon Street kind of tourist...

781
00:48:51,564 --> 00:48:55,144
Mardi Gras, but then there's the actual New Orleans Mardi Gras.

782
00:48:55,184 --> 00:48:57,704
Now, that's what I tell people. If you want to do the Bourbon Street Mardi Gras,

783
00:48:57,804 --> 00:48:59,504
that's a whole different, another animal.

784
00:48:59,964 --> 00:49:02,524
Because that's, I don't even, I'm like, what the hell are they doing down there?

785
00:49:02,704 --> 00:49:05,424
I mean, people jumping on the balconies, and they're like, oh,

786
00:49:05,644 --> 00:49:08,264
wow, yeah, I don't know. You can't even walk.

787
00:49:08,904 --> 00:49:13,384
You can't even walk. You're like, why would you want to walk through a sea of

788
00:49:13,384 --> 00:49:14,584
people you can't get through?

789
00:49:14,884 --> 00:49:17,364
It takes you almost two hours to walk from one end to the other end.

790
00:49:17,664 --> 00:49:21,764
People just drink in Korea, like, nah, and you'll probably step in some throw

791
00:49:21,764 --> 00:49:27,584
up some other human step in some regurgitation along the way maybe some other human,

792
00:49:28,764 --> 00:49:32,164
someone's laying on the ground just naked like why is a man on the ground naked

793
00:49:32,164 --> 00:49:34,244
dressed like a woman like can't explain it to you.

794
00:49:35,744 --> 00:49:38,604
Yeah well you know to each their own right,

795
00:49:39,844 --> 00:49:44,904
well I'm stoked so tell me tell me as we start to wrap up here tell me a bit

796
00:49:44,904 --> 00:49:49,024
about the tour like where you guys gonna be stopping stopping and yeah this

797
00:49:49,024 --> 00:49:52,184
tour coming up we start off in tampa then we go to baltimore,

798
00:49:52,644 --> 00:49:56,444
then we new york city we go to northampton and

799
00:49:56,444 --> 00:49:59,404
hampton beach we're kind

800
00:49:59,404 --> 00:50:02,644
of all it's all on the east coast pretty much um it's gonna

801
00:50:02,644 --> 00:50:07,304
be pretty it's gonna be pretty big and you know a week for us is big like a

802
00:50:07,304 --> 00:50:11,604
week like yeah normally two or three days i'll be back but a week is like it's

803
00:50:11,604 --> 00:50:16,084
like a year because we can get a lot done in one week so yeah yeah and people

804
00:50:16,084 --> 00:50:17,984
in northeast At least they're looking forward to it. Like, yeah,

805
00:50:17,984 --> 00:50:19,524
man, we want to see you guys. Like, okay.

806
00:50:20,264 --> 00:50:25,524
Yeah. Oh, it's a treat. Do you, do you feel, how do you feel about when other bands cover you guys?

807
00:50:25,584 --> 00:50:28,624
Is that like an honor? Do you like appreciate it?

808
00:50:29,024 --> 00:50:31,564
I love it. Like, you want to cover Rebirth? Go right ahead. Yeah.

809
00:50:32,164 --> 00:50:35,444
Because, you know, there's always ways to make money from a band covering your stuff.

810
00:50:35,684 --> 00:50:38,404
Because if they're playing at a venue that's part of ASCAP or BMI,

811
00:50:38,724 --> 00:50:40,304
they actually have to pay for it.

812
00:50:40,324 --> 00:50:43,704
So we get the money on the back end. So I'm like, yeah, by all means, do cover Rebirth stuff.

813
00:50:43,984 --> 00:50:46,504
Go right ahead. Yeah. Yeah.

814
00:50:47,972 --> 00:50:50,932
One of my favorite rock bands is the Chili Peppers.

815
00:50:51,332 --> 00:50:56,152
And I know you guys share a stage and there's this really cool quote that Flea

816
00:50:56,152 --> 00:51:01,672
that's out there from Flea, who's arguably one of the greatest bass players of all time.

817
00:51:02,452 --> 00:51:06,172
Just saw a rebirth brass band. Unbelievable. Hard as hell.

818
00:51:06,472 --> 00:51:11,612
Free as a ray of light. There is not a band on earth that is better. Stunning.

819
00:51:12,372 --> 00:51:16,332
Yeah. Right. I mean, that's, that's also gotta be an honor, right?

820
00:51:16,352 --> 00:51:18,532
Like, you know, Chili Peppers are a pretty big band.

821
00:51:18,572 --> 00:51:21,352
It was a huge, huge honor. And then we went on tour with them.

822
00:51:21,892 --> 00:51:26,492
And he was actually hanging out with one of the Neville guys.

823
00:51:26,872 --> 00:51:28,732
And he was bringing it to Giacomo's in New Orleans.

824
00:51:29,152 --> 00:51:31,832
And we were playing Tuesday night. And he said, man, who's that?

825
00:51:32,472 --> 00:51:35,512
And Ivan Neville said, well, that's Rayburg. He said, I know those guys.

826
00:51:35,712 --> 00:51:38,812
He said, you know those guys? So he goes, Ivan Neville's real tight with Phil.

827
00:51:39,432 --> 00:51:44,512
Phil knows everybody. So he goes, hey, Phil, this is me from Chili Peppers. He said, OK, what up?

828
00:51:44,672 --> 00:51:47,632
He's like, I'm going to check you guys out. So he's checking us out,

829
00:51:47,712 --> 00:51:49,652
having some wine and talking.

830
00:51:49,952 --> 00:51:52,032
He said, man, what you guys think about coming on tour with us?

831
00:51:52,532 --> 00:51:55,532
We're thinking, you know, like, man, he's bullshit. We're not going on tour

832
00:51:55,532 --> 00:51:59,092
with him. A month later, we had a call like, hey, you guys hit it off with the

833
00:51:59,092 --> 00:52:00,072
Chili Peppers. He's like, what?

834
00:52:00,692 --> 00:52:02,592
So we go out on tour with the Chili Peppers.

835
00:52:03,528 --> 00:52:04,948
And that was like playing in the

836
00:52:04,948 --> 00:52:09,208
White House because they're playing in stadiums, 30, 40, 50,000 people.

837
00:52:10,148 --> 00:52:13,788
And the one song, it's called Under the Bridge, one of my favorite Chili Pepper songs.

838
00:52:14,768 --> 00:52:16,888
I saw it tell Flee. I said, Flee, that's one of my favorite songs.

839
00:52:17,008 --> 00:52:19,528
He said, man, I want you to do something for me. He said, when that note comes,

840
00:52:19,868 --> 00:52:21,488
there's a note that he plays at the end.

841
00:52:22,188 --> 00:52:24,468
He said, I want you to hit this key, hit this string right here.

842
00:52:24,828 --> 00:52:27,008
So I go up on stage. And he said, when I tell you to hit it,

843
00:52:27,008 --> 00:52:28,708
hit it. I hit it. And the people go crazy.

844
00:52:29,808 --> 00:52:34,788
I'm like, wow. I felt like a rock star. movie star rock star all kind of stars

845
00:52:34,788 --> 00:52:40,148
so jazz brass band star look at you that's a great story we ended up playing

846
00:52:40,148 --> 00:52:44,988
flea's wedding no no kidding wow what an honor like,

847
00:52:45,668 --> 00:52:53,588
so what what year was that when you guys were uh on tour with them that had to be 2011 or 12,

848
00:52:54,148 --> 00:52:59,828
something like something like that so it was a it was a big tour i mean i mean

849
00:52:59,828 --> 00:53:02,148
they're playing and it's just packed.

850
00:53:02,288 --> 00:53:05,128
There were people jumping out the rafters trying to get on stage with them.

851
00:53:05,248 --> 00:53:08,468
And we're just like, damn, man, this is real rock and roll right here.

852
00:53:08,588 --> 00:53:12,448
And we're in two vans. They're like two big buses. We just rented two vans and

853
00:53:12,448 --> 00:53:13,188
drove all over the country.

854
00:53:13,828 --> 00:53:16,148
That's so fun. And Flea was like, man, you guys do it all. Cool.

855
00:53:16,268 --> 00:53:20,308
We're like, dude, why not? This is all it takes for us. So it was a lot of fun.

856
00:53:20,968 --> 00:53:24,308
And Flea's a lifetime friend. And he's always calling, checking,

857
00:53:24,428 --> 00:53:25,348
like, what you guys into?

858
00:53:26,088 --> 00:53:28,068
Just out on the road. He's like, okay, keep up the good work,

859
00:53:28,108 --> 00:53:31,908
man. I'm going to have to help you get my Chili Peppers poster signed.

860
00:53:32,808 --> 00:53:33,588
Definitely, man. I might ask

861
00:53:33,588 --> 00:53:37,988
for a favor. Okay, no problem. No problem at all. All right, real quick.

862
00:53:38,388 --> 00:53:41,308
Favorite venue to play in in New Orleans?

863
00:53:41,828 --> 00:53:44,648
Like top, what's your top one? You named off a few.

864
00:53:45,328 --> 00:53:49,908
My top one would probably be Tips, Tippy Teens. Yeah. Yeah.

865
00:53:50,668 --> 00:53:55,988
Favorite venue to watch another band play in New Orleans? Like if you were to just go watch.

866
00:53:56,888 --> 00:54:01,948
Just go watch? I like House of Blues. House of Blues. Okay.

867
00:54:02,608 --> 00:54:07,228
All right. What about, what's the favorite venue you've ever played in, period?

868
00:54:07,528 --> 00:54:10,688
Like, was it one of these huge stadiums with the Chili Peppers,

869
00:54:10,748 --> 00:54:13,648
or is it like a smaller venue like in New York?

870
00:54:13,928 --> 00:54:16,788
You talking about in the world? Just in the world, yeah.

871
00:54:17,508 --> 00:54:21,528
You know what I like? This was in 1986. We played Bumbershoot in Seattle, Washington. Okay.

872
00:54:22,316 --> 00:54:28,476
It was outdoors. It's kind of like an amphitheater. We recently went back to Bumbershoot in August.

873
00:54:29,036 --> 00:54:33,816
For some reason, Seattle has really good sound. It just sounds so good.

874
00:54:34,636 --> 00:54:39,476
I guess they put a lot of money into the sound equipment. I like playing Seattle, period.

875
00:54:40,556 --> 00:54:43,996
Okay. Bumbershoot. Next time we're in Seattle, Uncle Dad, we'll have to go to

876
00:54:43,996 --> 00:54:47,116
the Bumbershoot for a show. Yeah, check it out. We'll definitely do it for sure. Definitely.

877
00:54:48,196 --> 00:54:51,596
Last one, and the most important one. What's your favorite place to watch the

878
00:54:51,596 --> 00:54:56,056
Saints game? on TV. The crazy thing is I'm not a big Saints fan.

879
00:54:56,836 --> 00:55:00,696
I'm a Cowboys fan, but I still want the home team to win. When they lose,

880
00:55:00,956 --> 00:55:03,636
I'm giving everybody shit like, y'all lost another one.

881
00:55:03,916 --> 00:55:07,196
When they lose, no one calls me. They refuse.

882
00:55:07,556 --> 00:55:10,836
My phone is like solids of lambs. How does that happen?

883
00:55:11,656 --> 00:55:15,036
When I was a kid, this lady was watching us and it was 1972.

884
00:55:15,436 --> 00:55:16,696
The Cowboys won the Super Bowl.

885
00:55:17,416 --> 00:55:21,116
At the time, they're kicking ass, beating everybody. I saw that team.

886
00:55:21,176 --> 00:55:22,356
I'm like, okay, that'll be my my team.

887
00:55:22,796 --> 00:55:27,396
Then when I, in 1970, that San B in 1972, it snowed in New Orleans,

888
00:55:27,516 --> 00:55:31,236
but that Christmas, my mom brought my brother Phil a Saints uniform with the

889
00:55:31,236 --> 00:55:33,876
helmet, and she didn't give me one, so I said, well, that's not my team.

890
00:55:34,016 --> 00:55:35,136
I'll just pick another team.

891
00:55:35,576 --> 00:55:39,716
And that's pretty much what happened. The team that was always on TV was the Cowboys.

892
00:55:40,376 --> 00:55:43,156
And so, but I always tell people, like, I prefer to see them win,

893
00:55:43,256 --> 00:55:45,596
because when they lose, everyone is, like, in a dumps. I was like,

894
00:55:45,696 --> 00:55:49,396
you just don't want to be like, oh, man, just let them win something, please.

895
00:55:49,916 --> 00:55:53,916
And my dad was, my dad went to the very first Saints game in Tulane Stadium.

896
00:55:54,076 --> 00:55:57,896
He actually saw the Dempsey guy kick the 63 yarder. Oh, yeah.

897
00:55:58,756 --> 00:56:01,876
When the Saints won the Super Bowl, I felt good for him. I'm like,

898
00:56:01,956 --> 00:56:05,976
you know what? All that money he put into the Saints, damn, I wish he was here to see the payout.

899
00:56:06,850 --> 00:56:11,490
Yeah, my stepdad's a huge Bills fan, and he's from Buffalo.

900
00:56:13,390 --> 00:56:18,090
Get this guy a Super Bowl before he croaks. Yeah.

901
00:56:20,010 --> 00:56:23,930
See, on certain teams, you just want to see the Bills, Detroit.

902
00:56:24,190 --> 00:56:27,190
You just want to cleave. He's like, man, could somebody please let them have

903
00:56:27,190 --> 00:56:28,830
a Super Bowl? Just one time.

904
00:56:29,230 --> 00:56:31,530
Do the 49ers need another Super Bowl?

905
00:56:32,230 --> 00:56:33,750
All right, all right. That's what I'm talking about with the Cowboys.

906
00:56:33,850 --> 00:56:37,190
They actually don't need another Super Bowl. but the 49ers don't either.

907
00:56:39,110 --> 00:56:42,850
Uncle Dad likes the 49ers.

908
00:56:43,290 --> 00:56:48,290
I like to see the Cowboys play the 49ers all the time because win or lose,

909
00:56:48,550 --> 00:56:52,710
it just makes everybody hate the Cowboys so much. It's just fun. I love to be hated.

910
00:56:55,630 --> 00:56:58,890
Last time we played you, I'll just tell you, that wasn't so good.

911
00:57:00,410 --> 00:57:04,010
But didn't it feel good to beat the Cowboys down? Of course.

912
00:57:04,970 --> 00:57:07,410
It feels good to be a villain sometimes. I'm going to be the villain.

913
00:57:07,550 --> 00:57:08,370
Yeah, I'm going to be the villain.

914
00:57:09,930 --> 00:57:14,810
Yeah. It does, yeah. Well, Keith, it's an honor, man. And thank you for coming

915
00:57:14,810 --> 00:57:16,430
on and talking to me about all that stuff.

916
00:57:16,610 --> 00:57:20,590
I love you guys and what you do and how you make people feel.

917
00:57:20,690 --> 00:57:23,350
It's always an honor to see you guys jam at the show.

918
00:57:23,710 --> 00:57:27,570
It was an honor to design and do a hat with you guys. We did a bar bridge.

919
00:57:27,770 --> 00:57:29,670
We need more hats. They sell so fast.

920
00:57:30,010 --> 00:57:33,010
We need more hats. Okay, all right. So I'll call Mike and get some more hats.

921
00:57:33,390 --> 00:57:35,230
Okay. we'll put it down. Thanks for the hat.

922
00:57:35,850 --> 00:57:39,550
And yeah, and I, you know, and I just, I respect, I respect what you guys do.

923
00:57:39,610 --> 00:57:41,650
I respect the culture. I respect the music.

924
00:57:41,810 --> 00:57:45,490
And where can people find you guys?

925
00:57:46,290 --> 00:57:50,730
Rebirthbrassband.com, Rebirthbrassband.com. You just, just Google Rebirth Brass

926
00:57:50,730 --> 00:57:53,070
Band and all shows will pretty much come up.

927
00:57:53,250 --> 00:57:56,730
They can call me. You can text me. My, my number's 24 seven.

928
00:57:57,270 --> 00:58:00,210
If I don't get back to you, I won't, I'll tell people I will answer you.

929
00:58:00,250 --> 00:58:02,350
Like you actually call back. Like, yeah, why not?

930
00:58:02,910 --> 00:58:06,690
Yeah. Yeah. Okay. All right. Well, put your phone number out on the listen notes.

931
00:58:06,710 --> 00:58:09,190
Put the phone number on, yeah. Put it on.

932
00:58:09,790 --> 00:58:15,750
All right, man. Well, I hope to see you soon at a show and it's been an honor. And thank you again.

933
00:58:16,450 --> 00:58:19,270
All right. Thank you. I appreciate it, man. Same to you guys.

934
00:58:19,930 --> 00:58:23,270
Hold on. Before we go, Mike, you got to wrap it up the right way.

935
00:58:23,550 --> 00:58:25,790
How do we wrap up the show? Yeah, here we go. That's right.

936
00:58:27,290 --> 00:58:31,730
We are not uncles. We are not dads, ads, but we're someone that you can talk

937
00:58:31,730 --> 00:58:33,190
to and we'll see you all next week.

938
00:58:33,520 --> 00:59:15,277
Music.